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* CommieLand: The Red Lakes Confederation, the DSA Government, the FDSA, and The Cascadians. Outside of America are the members of Pan-America and the [[spoiler:nations belonging to the 4th Internationale]].
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* TheCoup: [[spoiler: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner]], kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.
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** [[spoiler: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner]], kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.
** [[spoiler: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner]], kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.
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* CrapsackWorld: Outside of America the Westphalian World Order is collapsing from all sides, as nations are torn apart in civil wars and revolutions, and capitalism increasingly desperately tries to prevent itself from collapsing by embracing authoritarianism and even outright fascism.
* {{Deconstruction}}: The Constitutionalist faction deconstructs the typical traits that are associated with right-wing factions (i.e: gaining an terrain and demographic in rural areas, generally united/professionalized, utilizing methodical tactics over flashier ones, etc.) in various 2ACW scenarios. Despite gaining near-total control of the rural areas, The Constitutionalists are completely hampered at the start thanks to internal divisions between Tom Cotton and the RRA, their constant sieges against several leftist-held cities in the Great Plains, their bloody campaign against the Qist faction...one that inadvertently helped the Constitutionalist's enemies in learning tactics that would use against them in the future, and general mismanagement of their economic advantage. While the early problems were rectified thanks to Patriot Zero/John Smith staging a coup against Tom Cotton alongside several victories against leftist forces and entering an "unholy alliance" between them and the Civic Nationalists and Canadian Junta, the situation eventually changes and eliminates any hope of them gaining superiority over their leftist rivals. This results in the Constitutionalists dropping their methodical tactics by launching large scale offensives that not only result in their leftist rivals becoming more determined against them; but resulted in a complete collapse of the rural demographics that the Constitutionalists completely relied upon due to the fact that it hadn't recovered from various crises before the 2ACW began. Such demographic collapse alone would have have ended the Constitutionalists' participation in the war, but countless prisoner revolts, the effects of Dust Bowl, and other right-wing factions (the white supremacist Aryan Bastion State and Christian fundamentalist Confederated Republic of Christian America) making moves against them completely seal their fate. In short, the Constitutionalists ended up getting defeated not by their leftist rivals; but by their internal problems that existed right at the start of the war.
* DividedStatesOfAmerica: Obviously what this TL is about.
* {{Deconstruction}}: The Constitutionalist faction deconstructs the typical traits that are associated with right-wing factions (i.e: gaining an terrain and demographic in rural areas, generally united/professionalized, utilizing methodical tactics over flashier ones, etc.) in various 2ACW scenarios. Despite gaining near-total control of the rural areas, The Constitutionalists are completely hampered at the start thanks to internal divisions between Tom Cotton and the RRA, their constant sieges against several leftist-held cities in the Great Plains, their bloody campaign against the Qist faction...one that inadvertently helped the Constitutionalist's enemies in learning tactics that would use against them in the future, and general mismanagement of their economic advantage. While the early problems were rectified thanks to Patriot Zero/John Smith staging a coup against Tom Cotton alongside several victories against leftist forces and entering an "unholy alliance" between them and the Civic Nationalists and Canadian Junta, the situation eventually changes and eliminates any hope of them gaining superiority over their leftist rivals. This results in the Constitutionalists dropping their methodical tactics by launching large scale offensives that not only result in their leftist rivals becoming more determined against them; but resulted in a complete collapse of the rural demographics that the Constitutionalists completely relied upon due to the fact that it hadn't recovered from various crises before the 2ACW began. Such demographic collapse alone would have have ended the Constitutionalists' participation in the war, but countless prisoner revolts, the effects of Dust Bowl, and other right-wing factions (the white supremacist Aryan Bastion State and Christian fundamentalist Confederated Republic of Christian America) making moves against them completely seal their fate. In short, the Constitutionalists ended up getting defeated not by their leftist rivals; but by their internal problems that existed right at the start of the war.
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* CrapsackWorld: Outside of America America, the Westphalian World Order is collapsing from all sides, as nations are torn apart in civil wars and revolutions, and capitalism increasingly desperately tries to prevent itself from collapsing by embracing authoritarianism and even outright fascism.
* {{Deconstruction}}: The Constitutionalist faction deconstructs the typical traits that are associated with right-wing factions (i.e: gainingan terrain and demographic in rural areas, generally united/professionalized, utilizing methodical tactics over flashier ones, etc.) in various 2ACW scenarios. Despite gaining near-total control of the rural areas, The Constitutionalists are completely hampered at the start thanks to internal divisions between Tom Cotton and the RRA, their constant sieges against several leftist-held cities in the Great Plains, their bloody campaign against the Qist faction...one that inadvertently helped the Constitutionalist's enemies in learning tactics that would use against them in the future, and general mismanagement of their economic advantage. While the early problems were rectified thanks to Patriot Zero/John Smith staging a coup against Tom Cotton alongside several victories against leftist forces and entering an "unholy alliance" between them and the Civic Nationalists and Canadian Junta, the situation eventually changes changed and eliminates eliminated any hope of them gaining superiority over their leftist rivals. This results resulted in the Constitutionalists dropping their methodical tactics by launching large scale large-scale offensives that not only result resulted in their leftist rivals becoming more determined against them; them but also resulted in a complete collapse of the rural demographics that the Constitutionalists completely relied upon due to the fact that it hadn't recovered from various crises before the 2ACW began. Such demographic collapse alone would have have ended the Constitutionalists' participation in the war, but countless prisoner revolts, the effects of the Dust Bowl, and other right-wing factions (the white supremacist Aryan Bastion State and Christian fundamentalist Confederated Republic of Christian America) making moves against them completely seal their fate. In short, the Constitutionalists ended up getting defeated not by their leftist rivals; but by their internal problems that existed right at the start of the war.
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* FallenStatesOfAmerica: After a prolonged series of crises America has fallen into a devastating civil war that has claimed millions upon millions of lives. At any rate it is unlikely that any one polity will be uniting the territory of the former U.S any time soon, especially considering that many factions are trying to build something new on the corpse of the country instead.
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* FallenStatesOfAmerica: After a prolonged series of crises crises, America has fallen into a devastating civil war that has claimed millions upon millions of lives. At any rate rate, it is unlikely that any one polity will be uniting the territory of the former U.S S. any time soon, especially considering that many factions are trying to build something new on the corpse of the country instead.
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* RightWingMilitiaFanatic: The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of fracturing within the leadership, demographic collapse in the countryside that powered their war machine, constant sieges against cities, and many other things that would culminate in a series of prison revolts in their territory.
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** The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of fracturing within the leadership, demographic collapse in the countryside that powered their war machine, constant sieges against cities, and many other things that would culminate in a series of prison revolts in their territory.
** The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of fracturing within the leadership, demographic collapse in the countryside that powered their war machine, constant sieges against cities, and many other things that would culminate in a series of prison revolts in their territory.
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* AllohistoricalAllusion: Many. Oh so many.
** The Second American Civil War differs form most timelines in that it is more closely based off of the insanity of conflicts like the Syrian Civil War, rather than falling into the trap of being a redux of the first Civil War.
** The Second American Civil War differs form most timelines in that it is more closely based off of the insanity of conflicts like the Syrian Civil War, rather than falling into the trap of being a redux of the first Civil War.
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* AllohistoricalAllusion: Many. Oh so many.
**The Second American Civil War differs form most timelines in that it is more closely based off of the insanity of conflicts like the Syrian Civil War, rather than falling into the trap of being a redux of the first Civil War.
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* BalkanizeMe: By 2028, America has effectively balkanized into a zillion competing factions, many of which hate eachother with a burning fury.
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* BalkanizeMe: By 2028, America has effectively balkanized into a zillion competing factions, many of which hate eachother each other with a burning fury.
* ChummyCommies: The global unrest caused by the Iran War leads of a resurgence of communism in many countries. When the United States splinters, the Great Lakes, Mid-Atlantic, and Southeast are taken over by leftist factions. They are generally freer and less autocratic than the remaining capitalist nations, which are becoming increasingly oppressive.
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and an reinvigorated ISIS. [[spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS as the only one surviving into the second intineration of the war, with Turkomen Iraqi militants (which was later directly supported by Turkey) joining the fray.]]
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined intertwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants militants and an reinvigorated ISIS. [[spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS as the only one surviving into the second intineration itineration of the war, with Turkomen Iraqi militants (which was later directly supported by Turkey) joining the fray.]]
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* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The leftist factions that have rose in the resulting civil war would come at odds with each other, especially after the Milwaukee Accords.
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* WeAreStrugglingTogether: The While they still cooperate with each other against the right-wing factions, the alliance of leftist factions that have rose in the resulting civil war would come at odds with each other, still suffers from tension between their members, especially after the Milwaukee Accords.
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In late 2019, the Supreme Court rules that Trump's businesses constitute a conflict of interest and strip him of them. This would kickstart a series of events that would lead to the assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 and Trump starting a War with Iran in January of 2020. This leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn than they did in our timeline, followed by the right doing the same. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of the aforementioned War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 100 years is no more, but what might replace it could be even worse...
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In late 2019, the Supreme Court rules that Trump's businesses constitute a conflict of interest and strip him of them. This would kickstart a series of events that would lead to the assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 and Trump starting a War war with Iran in January of 2020. This leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn than they did in our timeline, followed by the right doing the same. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of the aforementioned War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 100 years is no more, but what might replace it could be even worse...
* ConspiracyTheorist: [[spoiler:Donald Trump's death from COVID-19]] leads to Qanon conspiracy theories gaining a lot of followers. After the collapse the United States, they're able to gain power in a handful of states before their deranged actions lead to their collapse.
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* {{Deconstruction}}: The Constitutionalist faction deconstructs the typical traits that are associated with right-wing factions (i.e: gaining an terrain and demographic in rural areas, generally united/professionalized, utilizing methodical tactics over flashier ones, etc.) in various 2ACW scenarios. Despite gaining near control of the rural areas, The Constitutionalist was completely hampered at the start thanks to internal divisions between Tom Cotton and the RRA, their constant sieges against several leftist-held cities in the Great Plains, their bloody campaign against the Qist faction…one that inadvertently helped Constitutionalist’s enemies in learning tactics that would use against them in the future, and general mismanagement of their economic advantage. While the early problems were rectified thanks to Patriot Zero/John Smith staging a coup against Tom Cotton alongside several victories against leftist forces and entering an “unholy alliance” between them and the Civic Nationalists and Canadian Junta, the situation have been completely changed that rubbed any hope of them gaining superiority over their leftist rivals. This resulted in the Constitutionalist dropping their methodical tactics by launching large scale offensives that not only resulted in their leftist rivals becoming more determined against them; but resulted in a complete collapse of rural demographics that the Constitutionalist completely relied upon due to the fact that it hadn’t recovered from various crises before the 2ACW began. Such demographic collapse could have ended the Constitutionalists participation of the war if it wasn’t for countless prisoner revolts, the effects of Dust Bowl, and other right-wing factions (the white supremacist Aryan Bastion State and Christian fundamentalist Confederated Republic of Christian America) making moves that completely sealed their fate.
In short, the Constitutionalists ended up getting defeated not by their leftist rivals; but by their internal problems that existed right at the start of the war.
In short, the Constitutionalists ended up getting defeated not by their leftist rivals; but by their internal problems that existed right at the start of the war.
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* {{Deconstruction}}: The Constitutionalist faction deconstructs the typical traits that are associated with right-wing factions (i.e: gaining an terrain and demographic in rural areas, generally united/professionalized, utilizing methodical tactics over flashier ones, etc.) in various 2ACW scenarios. Despite gaining near near-total control of the rural areas, The Constitutionalist was Constitutionalists are completely hampered at the start thanks to internal divisions between Tom Cotton and the RRA, their constant sieges against several leftist-held cities in the Great Plains, their bloody campaign against the Qist faction…one that inadvertently helped the Constitutionalist’s enemies in learning tactics that would use against them in the future, and general mismanagement of their economic advantage. While the early problems were rectified thanks to Patriot Zero/John Smith staging a coup against Tom Cotton alongside several victories against leftist forces and entering an “unholy alliance” between them and the Civic Nationalists and Canadian Junta, the situation have been completely changed that rubbed eventually changes and eliminates any hope of them gaining superiority over their leftist rivals. This resulted results in the Constitutionalist Constitutionalists dropping their methodical tactics by launching large scale offensives that not only resulted result in their leftist rivals becoming more determined against them; but resulted in a complete collapse of the rural demographics that the Constitutionalist Constitutionalists completely relied upon due to the fact that it hadn’t recovered from various crises before the 2ACW began. Such demographic collapse could alone would have have ended the Constitutionalists Constitutionalists' participation of in the war if it wasn’t for war, but countless prisoner revolts, the effects of Dust Bowl, and other right-wing factions (the white supremacist Aryan Bastion State and Christian fundamentalist Confederated Republic of Christian America) making moves that against them completely sealed seal their fate.
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** [[spoiler: Tammy Duckworth (D-IL, 2025-)]]2025-) is President Minority, being the first president of Asian descent, and President Focus Group for her attempts to keep the Democrats and Republicans in harmony under the National United Government. She is overthrown by the Civic Nationalists, but is rescued by a group of US Army officers opposed to the [=CivNat=] takeover and taken to Hawaii, where she becomes President Puppet.]]
** The [[ConspiracyTheorist Qist]] forces are a much more deranged example. They launch multiple pogroms against LGBTQ+ people, religious minorities, and other people they consider "Satanic". Their cruelty ultimately comes back to bite them, as wasting resources on terror campaigns allows their enemies to crush them.
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* WarRefugees: The scale of the instability from wars in the world lead to the greatest refugee crisis since the Second World War.
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* WarRefugees: The scale of the instability from the multiple wars in the world lead leads to the greatest refugee crisis since the Second World War.
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* Deconstruction: The Constitutionalist faction deconstructs the typical traits that are associated with right-wing factions (i.e: gaining an terrain and demographic in rural areas, generally united/professionalized, utilizing methodical tactics over flashier ones, etc.) in various 2ACW scenarios. Despite gaining near control of the rural areas, The Constitutionalist was completely hampered at the start thanks to internal divisions between Tom Cotton and the RRA, their constant sieges against several leftist-held cities in the Great Plains, their bloody campaign against the Qist faction…one that inadvertently helped Constitutionalist’s enemies in learning tactics that would use against them in the future, and general mismanagement of their economic advantage. While the early problems were rectified thanks to Patriot Zero/John Smith staging a coup against Tom Cotton alongside several victories against leftist forces and entering an “unholy alliance” between them and the Civic Nationalists and Canadian Junta, the situation have been completely changed that rubbed any hope of them gaining superiority over their leftist rivals. This resulted in the Constitutionalist dropping their methodical tactics by launching large scale offensives that not only resulted in their leftist rivals becoming more determined against them; but resulted in a complete collapse of rural demographics that the Constitutionalist completely relied upon due to the fact that it hadn’t recovered from various crises before the 2ACW began. Such demographic collapse could have ended the Constitutionalists participation of the war if it wasn’t for countless prisoner revolts, the effects of Dust Bowl, and other right-wing factions (the white supremacist Aryan Bastion State and Christian fundamentalist Confederated Republic of Christian America) making moves that completely sealed their fate.
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* Deconstruction: {{Deconstruction}}: The Constitutionalist faction deconstructs the typical traits that are associated with right-wing factions (i.e: gaining an terrain and demographic in rural areas, generally united/professionalized, utilizing methodical tactics over flashier ones, etc.) in various 2ACW scenarios. Despite gaining near control of the rural areas, The Constitutionalist was completely hampered at the start thanks to internal divisions between Tom Cotton and the RRA, their constant sieges against several leftist-held cities in the Great Plains, their bloody campaign against the Qist faction…one that inadvertently helped Constitutionalist’s enemies in learning tactics that would use against them in the future, and general mismanagement of their economic advantage. While the early problems were rectified thanks to Patriot Zero/John Smith staging a coup against Tom Cotton alongside several victories against leftist forces and entering an “unholy alliance” between them and the Civic Nationalists and Canadian Junta, the situation have been completely changed that rubbed any hope of them gaining superiority over their leftist rivals. This resulted in the Constitutionalist dropping their methodical tactics by launching large scale offensives that not only resulted in their leftist rivals becoming more determined against them; but resulted in a complete collapse of rural demographics that the Constitutionalist completely relied upon due to the fact that it hadn’t recovered from various crises before the 2ACW began. Such demographic collapse could have ended the Constitutionalists participation of the war if it wasn’t for countless prisoner revolts, the effects of Dust Bowl, and other right-wing factions (the white supremacist Aryan Bastion State and Christian fundamentalist Confederated Republic of Christian America) making moves that completely sealed their fate.
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* Deconstruction: The Constitutionalist faction deconstructs the typical traits that are associated with right-wing factions (i.e: gaining an terrain and demographic in rural areas, generally united/professionalized, utilizing methodical tactics over flashier ones, etc.) in various 2ACW scenarios. Despite gaining near control of the rural areas, The Constitutionalist was completely hampered at the start thanks to internal divisions between Tom Cotton and the RRA, their constant sieges against several leftist-held cities in the Great Plains, their bloody campaign against the Qist faction…one that inadvertently helped Constitutionalist’s enemies in learning tactics that would use against them in the future, and general mismanagement of their economic advantage. While the early problems were rectified thanks to Patriot Zero/John Smith staging a coup against Tom Cotton alongside several victories against leftist forces and entering an “unholy alliance” between them and the Civic Nationalists and Canadian Junta, the situation have been completely changed that rubbed any hope of them gaining superiority over their leftist rivals. This resulted in the Constitutionalist dropping their methodical tactics by launching large scale offensives that not only resulted in their leftist rivals becoming more determined against them; but resulted in a complete collapse of rural demographics that the Constitutionalist completely relied upon due to the fact that it hadn’t recovered from various crises before the 2ACW began. Such demographic collapse could have ended the Constitutionalists participation of the war if it wasn’t for countless prisoner revolts, the effects of Dust Bowl, and other right-wing factions (the white supremacist Aryan Bastion State and Christian fundamentalist Confederated Republic of Christian America) making moves that completely sealed their fate.
In short, the Constitutionalists ended up getting defeated not by their leftist rivals; but by their internal problems that existed right at the start of the war.
In short, the Constitutionalists ended up getting defeated not by their leftist rivals; but by their internal problems that existed right at the start of the war.
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->[[spoiler: ''"THOUGHT YOU COULD SEND ME TO HELL THAT EASILY, SHITHEADS? I WON, YOU HEAR ME? I WON! HARRIS IS DEAD, PELOSI IS DEAD, CHRIST IS DEAD, TRUMP IS DEAD, I'M ALIVE! [[FallenStatesOfAmerica AMERICA COLLAPSED UNDER A DEMOCRAT]] [[PummelingTheCorpse AND ITS GRAVE IS BEING PISSED ON BY THE LIKES OF YOU]]! [[SoreLoser Y'ALL ARE THE POOR SPORTS, NOT ME]]! [[RageQuit YOU THREW THE GAME]]! FUCK YOU, I WON I WON I WON! [[TakingYouWithMe IF I DIE YOU DIE WITH ME]]! YOU WON'T WHOOP ME AND GET AWAY WITH IT! I'M A PART OF HISTORY NO MATTER WHAT! YOU'RE JUST NOBODIES!"'']]
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* WonTheWarLostThePeace: The government of Iran is able to repel the American invasion, only to be overthrown by members of its armed forces who have turned to socialism.
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* WonTheWarLostThePeace: The government of Iran is able to repel the American invasion, only to be overthrown by members of its armed forces who have turned to socialism.socialism.
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* TheCoup: [[spoiler: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner, kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.]]
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* TheCoup: [[spoiler: A group of US military officers sympathetic to Qanon conspiracy theories launch a coup against the US government when the 2024 presidential election fails to produce a clear winner, winner]], kicking off the Second American Civil War in earnest.]]
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* CrapsackWorld: The Westphalian World Order is collapsing from all sides, as nations are torn apart in civil wars and revolutions, and capitalism increasingly desperately tries to prevent itself from collapsing by embracing authoritarianism and even outright fascism.
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* CrapsackWorld: The Outside of America the Westphalian World Order is collapsing from all sides, as nations are torn apart in civil wars and revolutions, and capitalism increasingly desperately tries to prevent itself from collapsing by embracing authoritarianism and even outright fascism.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: While many of the surviving capitalist powers have become increasingly authoritarian and xenophobic, they still find the [[ThoseWackyNazis Aryan Bastion State]] somewhat distasteful and are horrified when [[spoiler:the Aryans set off a nuke in California.]]
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: While many of the surviving capitalist powers have become increasingly authoritarian and xenophobic, they still find the [[ThoseWackyNazis Aryan Bastion State]] somewhat distasteful and are horrified when [[spoiler:the Aryans set off a nuke in California.]]
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** Donald Trump (R-NY, 2017-2020) is President Corrupt, as he leads America into an ill-advised war with Iran and uses the increasing unrest at home to increase his political power. [[spoiler: He dies of COVID after losing the 2020 presidential election.]]
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** Donald Trump (R-NY, 2017-2020) is President Corrupt, as he leads America into an ill-advised war with Iran and uses the increasing unrest at home to increase further his political power. [[spoiler: He dies of COVID after losing the 2020 presidential election.]]
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** While there is no riot in the US Capitol after the 2020 election due to tighter security, Marjorie Taylor Greene is able to smuggle a gun into the chamber and kill Nancy Pelosi.
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* WonTheWarLostThePeace: The government of Iran is able to repel the American invasion, only to be overthrown by members of its armed forces who have turned to leftism.
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* ANaziByAnyOtherName: The Civic Nationalists are a downplayed example; while they profess to be tolerant of racial and sexual minorities, they also pressure minority groups in their territory to shed their culture in favor of WASP culture and have ambitions of conquering all of North America.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: While many of the surviving capitalist powers have become increasingly authoritarian and xenophobic, they're still unnerved by the [[ThoseWackNazis Aryan Bastion State]] and are horrified when [[spoiler:the Aryans set off a nuke in California.]]
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* EqualOpportunityEvil: The Revolutionary Right Army is willing to accept minorities who share their beliefs into their ranks. This is also somewhat deconstructed, as non-whites in Constitutionalist territory who aren't active participants in the RRA forces suffer from unofficial discrimination.
* EvenEvilHasStandards: While many of the surviving capitalist powers have become increasingly authoritarian and xenophobic,they're they still unnerved by find the [[ThoseWackNazis [[ThoseWackyNazis Aryan Bastion State]] somewhat distasteful and are horrified when [[spoiler:the Aryans set off a nuke in California.]]
* EvenEvilHasStandards: While many of the surviving capitalist powers have become increasingly authoritarian and xenophobic,
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* FictionalPoliticalParty: After Donald Trump dies of COVID, his supporters break away from the Republican Party and form the America First Party, dedicated to continuing the ideas pushed by Trump when he was alive. After the United States splinters, they team up with the [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic Revolutionary Right Army]].
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* FictionalPoliticalParty: After Donald Trump dies of COVID, his supporters break away from the Republican Party and form the America First Party, dedicated to continuing the ideas pushed by Trump when he was alive. After the United States splinters, they team up with the [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic Revolutionary Right Army]].Army]], dubbing themselves the Constitutionalist Government.
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and an reinvigorated ISIS. [[spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS as the only one surviving into the second intineration of the war, with pro-Turkey militants joining the fray.]]
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and an reinvigorated ISIS. [[spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS as the only one surviving into the second intineration of the war, with pro-Turkey Turkomen Iraqi militants (which was later directly supported by Turkey) joining the fray.]]
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** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict (with a dose of BalkanizeMe) when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; with Al-Sanadid, reinvigorated ISIS militants, Jordanian-backed Hejazi State and independent/tribal armed groups joining in before calming down entirely after the defeat of both AQAP and ISIS. The Jordanian-backed Hejazi State would later fall into civil war between Hashemite forces and a group calling themselves the United Ummah Caliphate.]]
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** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict (with a dose of BalkanizeMe) when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; with Al-Sanadid, reinvigorated ISIS militants, Jordanian-backed Hejazi State and independent/tribal armed groups joining in before calming down entirely after the defeat making peace with other factions and defeating of both AQAP and ISIS.ISIS presence in the long gone nation. The Jordanian-backed Hejazi State would later fall into civil war between Hashemite forces and a group calling themselves the United Ummah Caliphate.]]
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** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; with Al-Sanadid, reinvigorated ISIS militants, Jordanian-backed Hejazi State and independent/tribal armed groups joining in. The Jordanian-backed Hejazi State would also fall into civil war between Hashemite forces and a group calling themselves the United Ummah Caliphate.]]
** Israel, in a technical sense, fell into one between them and an right-wing secessionist forces calling themselves Judea and Samaria after occupying nearly all of West Bank and the road to Tel Aviv.
** Israel, in a technical sense, fell into one between them and an right-wing secessionist forces calling themselves Judea and Samaria after occupying nearly all of West Bank and the road to Tel Aviv.
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** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict (with a dose of BalkanizeMe) when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; with Al-Sanadid, reinvigorated ISIS militants, Jordanian-backed Hejazi State and independent/tribal armed groups joining in. in before calming down entirely after the defeat of both AQAP and ISIS. The Jordanian-backed Hejazi State would also later fall into civil war between Hashemite forces and a group calling themselves the United Ummah Caliphate.]]
** [[spoiler: Israel, in a technical sense, fell into one between them and an right-wing secessionist forces calling themselves Judea and Samaria after occupying nearly all of West Bank and the road to TelAviv. Aviv.]]
** [[spoiler: Israel, in a technical sense, fell into one between them and an right-wing secessionist forces calling themselves Judea and Samaria after occupying nearly all of West Bank and the road to Tel
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*** Bolivia fell into fighting between pro-MAS regime and Santa Cruz secessionists; [[spoiler: which would later backed by Brazil after declaring war with Bolivia and Peru.]]
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*** Bolivia fell into fighting between pro-MAS regime and Santa Cruz secessionists; [[spoiler: which would later directly backed by Brazil after declaring war with Bolivia and Peru.]]
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*** Chile also become a victim of this after an botched coup by the elements of Chilean Army/Chilean Police.
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and ISIS. [[spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces/pro-Turkey militants and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS as the only one surviving into the second intineration of the war.]]
** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; with Al-Sanadid Forces reinvigorated ISIS militants, Jordanian-backed Hejazi State and independent groups joining in. The Jordanian-backed Hejazi State would also fall into civil war between Hashemite forces and a group calling themselves the United Ummah Caliphate.]]
** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; with Al-Sanadid Forces reinvigorated ISIS militants, Jordanian-backed Hejazi State and independent groups joining in. The Jordanian-backed Hejazi State would also fall into civil war between Hashemite forces and a group calling themselves the United Ummah Caliphate.]]
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and an reinvigorated ISIS. [[spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces/pro-Turkey militants forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS as the only one surviving into the second intineration of the war.war, with pro-Turkey militants joining the fray.]]
** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; withAl-Sanadid Forces Al-Sanadid, reinvigorated ISIS militants, Jordanian-backed Hejazi State and independent independent/tribal armed groups joining in. The Jordanian-backed Hejazi State would also fall into civil war between Hashemite forces and a group calling themselves the United Ummah Caliphate.]]
** It would not be called the Latin American Wars without this trope:
*** Bolivia fell into fighting between pro-MAS regime and Santa Cruz secessionists; [[spoiler: which would later backed by Brazil after declaring war with Bolivia and Peru.]]
*** Peru collapses into various groups fighting for the throne such as pro-government forces, People's Provisional Authority, Aymaran Nationalist, Ethnocacerists, MOVADEF, FREPAP, and Fujimorists. [[spoiler: People's Provisional Authority would win out after managing to force the pro-government faction out of the country, crushing Fujimorists and MOVADEF, and forming an tentative alliance with FREPAP, Aymaran Nationalist, and Ethnocacerists (which was on the verge of collapsing).]]
*** Same as Colombia with its own PPA (plus the support of FARC and other anarcho-communist groups) fighting against the Colombian government. [[spoiler: Just like in Peru, Colombian PPA would also win the conflict as well.]]
** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; with
** It would not be called the Latin American Wars without this trope:
*** Bolivia fell into fighting between pro-MAS regime and Santa Cruz secessionists; [[spoiler: which would later backed by Brazil after declaring war with Bolivia and Peru.]]
*** Peru collapses into various groups fighting for the throne such as pro-government forces, People's Provisional Authority, Aymaran Nationalist, Ethnocacerists, MOVADEF, FREPAP, and Fujimorists. [[spoiler: People's Provisional Authority would win out after managing to force the pro-government faction out of the country, crushing Fujimorists and MOVADEF, and forming an tentative alliance with FREPAP, Aymaran Nationalist, and Ethnocacerists (which was on the verge of collapsing).]]
*** Same as Colombia with its own PPA (plus the support of FARC and other anarcho-communist groups) fighting against the Colombian government. [[spoiler: Just like in Peru, Colombian PPA would also win the conflict as well.]]
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and ISIS. [[spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS (and militias aligned with Turkey) as the ones that survived the first intineration of the war.]]
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and ISIS. [[spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces forces/pro-Turkey militants and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS (and militias aligned with Turkey) as the ones that survived only one surviving into the first second intineration of the war.]]
** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; with Al-Sanadid Forces reinvigorated ISIS militants, Jordanian-backed Hejazi State and independent groups joining in. The Jordanian-backed Hejazi State would also fall into civil war between Hashemite forces and a group calling themselves the United Ummah Caliphate.]]
** Saudi Arabia also fell victim to this, alongside SuccessionCrisis, between three princely contenders (Turkiists, Abdullahite and Abdulazizite) in the aftermath of an incident that killed both King Salman and Prince Mohammed; with Houthi invasion, Shia uprising in Turkiist's areas and Najran provinces and Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula taking over the Empty Quarter thrown in. [[spoiler: It later degenerated into an free-for-all conflict when the princely contenders fled due to minor factions getting an upper hand or overthrown that allowed major factions to take over the collapsed nation; with Al-Sanadid Forces reinvigorated ISIS militants, Jordanian-backed Hejazi State and independent groups joining in. The Jordanian-backed Hejazi State would also fall into civil war between Hashemite forces and a group calling themselves the United Ummah Caliphate.]]
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and ISIS. [[Spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS (and militias aligned with Turkey) as the ones that survived the first intineration of the war.]]
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** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and ISIS. [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS (and militias aligned with Turkey) as the ones that survived the first intineration of the war.]]
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* CivilWar: This TL is obviously about a Second American Civil War.
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* CivilWar: This TL is obviously about a Second American Civil War. But there are more civil wars that take place in the TL before SACW happened. Such as:
** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and ISIS. [[Spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS (and militias aligned with Turkey) as the ones that survived the first intineration of the war.]]
** Iraq being first to fall to this trope as the nation was interwined in the Iran War that resulted in pro-Iran Shia militants fighting against the pro-American Iraqi goverment forces, American/Saudi forces, Sunni millitants and ISIS. [[Spoiler: However it changed dramatically mere days before the collapse of American war effort in the Iran War when an upstart Iraqi Communist Party stages an uprising against American/Iraqi Government/Sunni forces and managing to coerce the surviving Shia militants - realizing that Iran is now weakened after the American invasion of Iran - into joining them; leaving ISIS (and militias aligned with Turkey) as the ones that survived the first intineration of the war.]]
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And Our Flag Was Not there is a timeline created by Dab Master on Sufficient Velocity.
The assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn followed by the right doing the same than they did in our timeline. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of a War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 100 years is no more, but what might replace it could be even worse...
The assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn followed by the right doing the same than they did in our timeline. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of a War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 100 years is no more, but what might replace it could be even worse...
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And Our Flag Was Not there is a timeline an AlternateHistory story created by Dab Master on Sufficient Velocity.
The assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn than they did in our timeline, followed by the right doing thesame than they did in our timeline.same. Coupled with a complete military and social disaster in the form of a War with Iran, the collapse of the global economy, and political chaos, the US plunges into civil war after a disputed election in 2024. The flag that dominated the world for 100 years is no more, but what might replace it could be even worse...
The assassination of Bernie Sanders in December 2019 leads to leftist factions in America taking a much more militant turn than they did in our timeline, followed by the right doing the
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: While many of the surviving capitalist powers have become increasingly authoritarian and xenophobic, they're still horrified when [[spoiler:the Aryan Bastion State sets off a nuke in California.]]
* EvenEvilHasStandards: While many of the surviving capitalist powers have become increasingly authoritarian and xenophobic, they're still horrified when [[spoiler:the Aryan Bastion State sets off a nuke in California.]]
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* EvilCripple: The Revolutionary Right Army's leader, [[TomTheDarkLord Jim Smith]], is confined to a wheelchair due to injuries he received while serving in the US military in Afghanistan.
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* RightWingMilitiaFanatic: The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of fracturing within the leadership, demographic collapse in the countryside that powered their war machine, constant sieges against cities, and many other things that would culminate in a prison revolts in their territory.
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* ThePlague: Not only does the COVID-19 pandemic still happen in this world, an outbreak of pneumonic plague occurs in Africa that eventually spreads to America when the RRA smuggles plague-carrying rats into the US.
* RightWingMilitiaFanatic: The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of fracturing within the leadership, demographic collapse in the countryside that powered their war machine, constant sieges against cities, and many other things that would culminate in a series of prison revolts in their territory.
* RightWingMilitiaFanatic: The Revolutionary Right Army, which follows a strict paleoconservative ideology, is initially one of the major factions in the war. While they have some major success early on in the war, they eventually fall apart due to a series of fracturing within the leadership, demographic collapse in the countryside that powered their war machine, constant sieges against cities, and many other things that would culminate in a series of prison revolts in their territory.
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* TeethClenchedTeamwork: Despite their ideological difference, the Revolutionary Right Army enters an "Unspoken Alliance" with the National Unity Government and later the Canadian military junta.
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* TeethClenchedTeamwork: Despite their ideological difference, the Revolutionary Right Army enters an "Unspoken Alliance" with the National Unity Government and later the Canadian military junta.junta against the left-wing factions.
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** None of the candidates in the 2024 US presidential election are able to get the required number of Electoral College votes, so the House of Representatives holds a contingent election on January 6. However, Congress is unable to reach a final vote and tensions eventually get so high that fistfights break out on the floor that only end when [[spoiler:Qanon-aligned US military officers launch a coup.]]
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** None of the candidates in the 2024 US presidential election are able to get the required number of Electoral College votes, so the House of Representatives holds a contingent election on January 6.6, 2025. However, Congress is unable to reach a final vote and tensions eventually get so high that fistfights break out on the floor that only end when [[spoiler:Qanon-aligned US military officers launch a coup.]]
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* FallenStatesOfAmerica: After a prolonged series of crises America has fallen into a devastating civil war that has claimed millions upon millions of lives. At any rate it is unlikely that any one polity will be uniting the territory of the former U.S any time soon, especially considering that many factions are trying to build something new on the corpse of the country instead.
* FictionalPoliticalParty: After Donald Trump dies of COVID, his supporters break away from the Republican Party and form the America First Party, which is based on the ideas pushed by Trump when he was alive.
* FallenStatesOfAmerica: After a prolonged series of crises America has fallen into a devastating civil war that has claimed millions upon millions of lives. At any rate it is unlikely that any one polity will be uniting the territory of the former U.S any time soon, especially considering that many factions are trying to build something new on the corpse of the country instead.
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EvenEvilHasStandards: While many of the surviving capitalist powers have become increasingly authoritarian and xenophobic, they're still horrified when [[spoiler:the Aryan Bastion State sets off a nuke in California.]]
* FallenStatesOfAmerica: After a prolonged series of crises America has fallen into a devastating civil war that has claimed millions upon millions of lives. At any rate it is unlikely that any one polity will be uniting the territory of the former U.S any time soon, especially considering that many factions are trying to build something new on the corpse of the countryinstead.
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* FictionalPoliticalParty: After Donald Trump dies of COVID, his supporters break away from the Republican Party and form the America First Party,which is based on dedicated to continuing the ideas pushed by Trump when he was alive.alive. After the United States splinters, they team up with the [[RightWingMilitiaFanatic Revolutionary Right Army]].
* FallenStatesOfAmerica: After a prolonged series of crises America has fallen into a devastating civil war that has claimed millions upon millions of lives. At any rate it is unlikely that any one polity will be uniting the territory of the former U.S any time soon, especially considering that many factions are trying to build something new on the corpse of the country
* FictionalPoliticalParty: After Donald Trump dies of COVID, his supporters break away from the Republican Party and form the America First Party,
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* DoNotGoGentle: [[spoiler: Surprisingly, Mitch McConnell has an adrenaline-fueled DyingMomentOfAwesome of sorts against the Sabmyk, managing to wound him before being killed by one of the Sabmyk's attendants. And the whole time, Mitch is screaming his head off at him, DefiantToTheEnd.]]
->[[spoiler: ''"THOUGHT YOU COULD SEND ME TO HELL THAT EASILY, SHITHEADS? I WON, YOU HEAR ME? I WON! HARRIS IS DEAD, PELOSI IS DEAD, CHRIST IS DEAD, TRUMP IS DEAD, I'M ALIVE! AMERICA COLLAPSED UNDER A DEMOCRAT AND ITS GRAVE IS BEING PISSED ON BY THE LIKES OF YOU! Y'ALL ARE THE POOR SPORTS, NOT ME! YOU THREW THE GAME! FUCK YOU, I WON I WON I WON!"'']]
->[[spoiler: ''"THOUGHT YOU COULD SEND ME TO HELL THAT EASILY, SHITHEADS? I WON, YOU HEAR ME? I WON! HARRIS IS DEAD, PELOSI IS DEAD, CHRIST IS DEAD, TRUMP IS DEAD, I'M ALIVE! AMERICA COLLAPSED UNDER A DEMOCRAT AND ITS GRAVE IS BEING PISSED ON BY THE LIKES OF YOU! Y'ALL ARE THE POOR SPORTS, NOT ME! YOU THREW THE GAME! FUCK YOU, I WON I WON I WON!"'']]
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* DoNotGoGentle: [[spoiler: Surprisingly, Mitch McConnell [=McConnell=] has an adrenaline-fueled DyingMomentOfAwesome of sorts against the Sabmyk, managing to wound him before being killed by one of the Sabmyk's attendants. And the whole time, Mitch is [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech screaming his head off off]] at him, DefiantToTheEnd.]]
->[[spoiler: ''"THOUGHT YOU COULD SEND ME TO HELL THAT EASILY, SHITHEADS? I WON, YOU HEAR ME? I WON! HARRIS IS DEAD, PELOSI IS DEAD, CHRIST IS DEAD, TRUMP IS DEAD, I'M ALIVE! [[FallenStatesOfAmerica AMERICA COLLAPSED UNDER ADEMOCRAT DEMOCRAT]] [[PummelingTheCorpse AND ITS GRAVE IS BEING PISSED ON BY THE LIKES OF YOU! YOU]]! [[SoreLoser Y'ALL ARE THE POOR SPORTS, NOT ME! ME]]! [[RageQuit YOU THREW THE GAME! GAME]]! FUCK YOU, I WON I WON I WON!"'']]WON! [[TakingYouWithMe IF I DIE YOU DIE WITH ME]]! YOU WON'T WHOOP ME AND GET AWAY WITH IT! I'M A PART OF HISTORY NO MATTER WHAT! YOU'RE JUST NOBODIES!"'']]
->[[spoiler: ''"THOUGHT YOU COULD SEND ME TO HELL THAT EASILY, SHITHEADS? I WON, YOU HEAR ME? I WON! HARRIS IS DEAD, PELOSI IS DEAD, CHRIST IS DEAD, TRUMP IS DEAD, I'M ALIVE! [[FallenStatesOfAmerica AMERICA COLLAPSED UNDER A
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* DoNotGoGentle: [[spoiler: Surprisingly, Mitch McConnell has an adrenaline-fueled DyingMomentOfAwesome of sorts against the Sabmyk, managing to wound him before being killed by one of the Sabmyk's attendants. And the whole time, Mitch is screaming his head off at him, DefiantToTheEnd.]]
->[[spoiler: ''"THOUGHT YOU COULD SEND ME TO HELL THAT EASILY, SHITHEADS? I WON, YOU HEAR ME? I WON! HARRIS IS DEAD, PELOSI IS DEAD, CHRIST IS DEAD, TRUMP IS DEAD, I'M ALIVE! AMERICA COLLAPSED UNDER A DEMOCRAT AND ITS GRAVE IS BEING PISSED ON BY THE LIKES OF YOU! Y'ALL ARE THE POOR SPORTS, NOT ME! YOU THREW THE GAME! FUCK YOU, I WON I WON I WON!"'']]
->[[spoiler: ''"THOUGHT YOU COULD SEND ME TO HELL THAT EASILY, SHITHEADS? I WON, YOU HEAR ME? I WON! HARRIS IS DEAD, PELOSI IS DEAD, CHRIST IS DEAD, TRUMP IS DEAD, I'M ALIVE! AMERICA COLLAPSED UNDER A DEMOCRAT AND ITS GRAVE IS BEING PISSED ON BY THE LIKES OF YOU! Y'ALL ARE THE POOR SPORTS, NOT ME! YOU THREW THE GAME! FUCK YOU, I WON I WON I WON!"'']]
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* AllohistoricalAllusion: Many
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* AllohistoricalAllusion: ManyMany. Oh so many.
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* BalkanizeMe: By 2028, America has effectively balkanized into different factions.
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* BalkanizeMe: By 2028, America has effectively balkanized into a zillion different factions.
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