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** The entire narrative is based on the legends surrounding Alamut and Hasan ibn Sabbah ("the Old Man in the Mountain"), so pretty much everything that happens in the book has an associated legend in the real world, even if it's not actual history. A good example is that there were no gardens in Alamut, though there really was a long-standing legend that the real-life hashashins went through the same process the fedayeens are shown going through in the book.
** We don't know the identity of Nizam al-Mulk's killer, and it's not certain he was a member of the assassins, though given their modus operandi and real-life animosities between him and the order, it's not unlikely. Malik Shah's death might likewise have been caused by a number of his enemies, including caliph and supporters of Nizam al-Mulk. The author ascribes both acts to assassins in order to paint Hasan Ibn Sabbah as a formidable chessmaster.
** There's no reason to believe real-life Hasan Ibn Sabbah was anything other than a devout Shia Muslim, contrary to the fictionalized version in this book.

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** The entire narrative is based on the legends surrounding Alamut and Hasan Hassan ibn Sabbah ("the Old Man in the Mountain"), so pretty much everything that happens in the book has an associated legend in the real world, even if it's not actual history. A good example is that there were no gardens in Alamut, though there really was a long-standing legend that the real-life hashashins went through the same process the fedayeens are shown going through in the book.
** We don't know the identity of Nizam al-Mulk's killer, and it's not certain he was a member of the assassins, though given their modus operandi and real-life animosities between him and the order, it's not unlikely. Malik Shah's death might likewise have been caused by a number of his enemies, including caliph and supporters of Nizam al-Mulk. The author ascribes both acts to assassins in order to paint Hasan Hassan Ibn Sabbah as a formidable chessmaster.
** There's no reason to believe real-life Hasan Hassan Ibn Sabbah was anything other than a devout Shia Muslim, contrary to the fictionalized version in this book.



* {{Chessmaster}}: Hasan ibn Sabbah, and he knows it - he regularly emphasizes how what comes to fruition throughout the novel is just the result of decades of planning. [[spoiler: And everything does end up working just as he intended, though sometimes it seems like it won't.]]

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* {{Chessmaster}}: Hasan Hassan ibn Sabbah, and he knows it - he regularly emphasizes how what comes to fruition throughout the novel is just the result of decades of planning. [[spoiler: And everything does end up working just as he intended, though sometimes it seems like it won't.]]


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* KarmaHoudini: By the end of the book, [[spoiler: Hassan suffers no retribution for any of his actions]].
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** There were no gardens on Alamut, so the whole conceit of the story is based more on legend than truth.

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** There The entire narrative is based on the legends surrounding Alamut and Hasan ibn Sabbah ("the Old Man in the Mountain"), so pretty much everything that happens in the book has an associated legend in the real world, even if it's not actual history. A good example is that there were no gardens on in Alamut, so the whole conceit of the story is based more on though there really was a long-standing legend than truth.that the real-life hashashins went through the same process the fedayeens are shown going through in the book.
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This is just wrong. Hasan ibn Sabbah had two sons and one of them was executed for drinking wine - but the other was for suspicions of being related to the murder of a superior and Hasan's friend, just as it is in the book. See the reference for it in wikipedia: He had both his sons executed, Muhammad for khamr and Ustad Husayn for his suspected role in the murder of da'i Husayn Qa'ini.[28]


** Hasan Ibn Sabbah's son wasn't executed for murder, but for the much less serious crime of drinking alcohol. Unlike other changes, this one can't be excused by philosophical and political agenda of the book and can only be explained by either poor research, or by a rather baffling desire of the author to make Hasan Ibn Sabbah more sympathetic.
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* PowerTrio: The three main fedayeens of the story: Yusuf, Suleiman and ibn Tahir. In particular, they're a male variant of BeautyBrainsAndBrawn; respectively, Suleiman (frequently noted to be beautiful, even by the other fedayeen), ibn Tahir (a natural poet who excels in the fedayeen classes) and Yusuf, who is the biggest and strongest among the characters.
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* Chessmaster: Hasan ibn Sabbah, and he knows it - he regularly emphasizes how what comes to fruition throughout the novel is just the result of decades of planning. And everything does end up working just as he intended, though sometimes it seems like it won't.

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* Chessmaster: {{Chessmaster}}: Hasan ibn Sabbah, and he knows it - he regularly emphasizes how what comes to fruition throughout the novel is just the result of decades of planning. [[spoiler: And everything does end up working just as he intended, though sometimes it seems like it won't.]]
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* Chessmaster: Hasan ibn Sabbah, and he knows it - he regularly emphasizes how what comes to fruition throughout the novel is just the result of decades of planning. And everything does end up working just as he intended, though sometimes it seems like it won't.
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It only recently has been translated into English, and was one of the main inspirations for ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed''.

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It only recently has been translated into English, and was one of the main inspirations for ''Franchise/AssassinsCreed''.
''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedI''.
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Five Man Band is undergoing a wick-cleaning project, so zero-context examples, roles with little to no context, and examples featuring groups of more than five, will be deleted.


* FiveManBand: Ibn Tahir establishes this dynamic with his fellow students while studying to become a feday.
** TheHero: Ibn Tahir
** TheLancer: Suleiman
** TheBigGuy: Yusuf
** TheSmartGuy: Jafar
** TheChick: Obeida
** TheFriendNobodyLikes: Naim

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** There's no reason to believe real-life Hasan Ibn Sabbah was anything other than a devout shia muslim, contrary to the fictionalized version in this book.

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** There's no reason to believe real-life Hasan Ibn Sabbah was anything other than a devout shia muslim, Shia Muslim, contrary to the fictionalized version in this book.


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* SuperGullible: ibn Tahir, which is amusing considering he's "the smart fedayeen." When he wakes up in Alamut's gardens he's initially skeptical that he's in Paradise, but Miriam persuades him pretty quickly. He becomes a fanatical servant of ibn Sabbah and gleefully undertakes a SuicideMission to assassinate the grand vizier. But after ibn Tahir mortally wounds the vizier, it takes the vizier about 30 seconds to pull the wool from ibn Tahir's eyes and (rightly) convince him that ibn Sabbah had manipulated him with a false paradise. He then hates ibn Sabbah with a white hot fury and vows to kill the old man...except, once the two are actually face-to-face, ibn Sabbah is able to again completely destroy ibn Tahir's worldview over the course of about two pages and turn the young man into a StrawNihilist like himself.


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* WeakWilled: ibn Tahir, which is amusing considering he's "the smart fedayeen." When he wakes up in Alamut's gardens he's initially skeptical that he's in Paradise, but Miriam persuades him pretty quickly. He becomes a fanatical servant of ibn Sabbah and gleefully undertakes a SuicideMission to assassinate the grand vizier. But after ibn Tahir mortally wounds the vizier, it takes the vizier about 30 seconds to pull the wool from ibn Tahir's eyes and (rightly) convince him that ibn Sabbah had manipulated him with a false paradise. He then hates ibn Sabbah with a white hot fury and vows to kill the old man...except, once the two are actually face-to-face, ibn Sabbah is able to again completely destroy ibn Tahir's worldview over the course of about two pages and turn the young man into a StrawNihilist like himself.
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* SuperGullible: ibn Tahir, which is amusing considering he's "the smart fedayeen." When he wakes up in Alamut's gardens he's initially skeptical that he's in Paradise, but Miriam persuades him pretty quickly. He becomes a fanatical servant of ibn Sabbah and gleefully undertakes a SuicideMission to assassinate the grand vizier. But after ibn Tahir mortally wounds the vizier, it takes the vizier about 30 seconds to pull the wool from ibn Tahir's eyes and (rightly) convince him that ibn Sabbah had manipulated him with a false paradise. He then hates ibn Sabbah with a white hot fury and vows to kill the old man...except, once the two are actually face-to-face, ibn Sabbah is able to again completely destroy ibn Tahir's worldview over the course of about two pages and turn the young man into a StrawNihilist like himself.

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* GardenOfLove: The "paradise" at Alamut could be considered a horribly perverted version. Certain characters do fall in love there, but overall it's not a romantic place in the slightest if you know its true purpose.



* IntelligenceEqualsIsolation: Hassan firmly believes this, disturbingly equating accepting his philosophies with wisdom, and being dismissive of people who consider them unacceptable - which in his period is most people. He doesn't get a clue this might not be so even when his son, whom he considers an idiot, accepts his philosophy, and very easily; instead, he just thinks Hosain "doesn't fully grasp it".



* PrettyBoy: Suleiman.



* UnintentionallySympathetic: Hassan's son is not a good person by any stretch of the imagination, but it's hard not to feel sorry for him in the long run. His father left him in the care of his abusive grandparents, and when he calls him back to his side, instead of showing him some love or care, his father makes him an ordinary soldier, apparently frustrated by the fact that he... Embraced his philosophy too easily, without the angst his father felt upon realizing it. Granted, the boy does act like a entitled prick, and later [[spoiler: kills a man whose only crime was obeying Hassan's orders]], but that hardly makes him worse than his father, while the narrative treats him as completely irredeemable.

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** Hasan Ibn Sabbah's son wasn't executed for murder, but for the much less serous crime of drinking alcohol.

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** Hasan Ibn Sabbah's son wasn't executed for murder, but for the much less serous serious crime of drinking alcohol.alcohol. Unlike other changes, this one can't be excused by philosophical and political agenda of the book and can only be explained by either poor research, or by a rather baffling desire of the author to make Hasan Ibn Sabbah more sympathetic.


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* ParentalAbandonment: Hassan abandons his son in childhood... With his abusive grandparents. And then is surprised when the boy resents him.


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* UnintentionallySympathetic: Hassan's son is not a good person by any stretch of the imagination, but it's hard not to feel sorry for him in the long run. His father left him in the care of his abusive grandparents, and when he calls him back to his side, instead of showing him some love or care, his father makes him an ordinary soldier, apparently frustrated by the fact that he... Embraced his philosophy too easily, without the angst his father felt upon realizing it. Granted, the boy does act like a entitled prick, and later [[spoiler: kills a man whose only crime was obeying Hassan's orders]], but that hardly makes him worse than his father, while the narrative treats him as completely irredeemable.

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