History JerkassHasAPoint / GameOfThrones

** Though Jamie -- [[CharacterDevelopment even if he's far less of a jerkass at this point]] -- comes back with a good point of his own: if the White Walkers win, they'll march south and kill them. If the Northern alliance defeats the White Walkers, they'll be pissed Cersei was plotting against them, march south, and kill ''them''.

** Though Jamie -- [[CharacterDevelopment even if he's far less of a jerkass at this point]] -- comes back with a good point of his own: if the White Walkers win, they'll march south and kill everyone. If Danny and Jon win, they'll be pissed Cersei broke her word, march south, and kill everyone.

* Despicable as it may be, Cersei's decision to renege on fighting the armies of the dead is also logical. Danaryes has an army she cannot withstand, and the implication is that the war will pick right up where it left off when the undead are dealt with. Best to let this usurper go it alone -- and whittle down her invincible army, hopefully losing a few dragons in the process -- so The Queen of The Iron Throne will stand a chance when the fighting resumes.

* Miraculous breakthrough aside, Grand Maester Ebrose really ''should'' have expelled Sam from The Citadel then and there. Even though Sam's intentions were noble and brave, he took an extremely careless chance trying to treat Ser Jorah. It could have (and was likely to) gone horribly wrong, and wiped out the entire Intelligencia of Westeros as greyscale ravaged Oldtown.

* Miraculous breakthrough aside, Grand Maester Ebrose really ''should'' have expelled Sam from The Citadel then and there. Even though Sam's intentions were noble and brave, he took an extremely careless chance trying to Ser Jorah. It could have (and was likely to) gone horribly wrong, and wiped out the entire Intelligencia of Westeros as greyscale ravaged Oldtown.

* When Robert demands to know what the Mad King's last words where when Jaime betrayed him, Jaime responds, "He said the same thing he'd been saying for hours. Burn them all.," which tells the viewers that the death of this King was by no means a tragedy.

* Notorious [[TheOathbreaker oathbreaker]] Jaime Lannister argues that the [[ConflictingLoyalty numerous and contradictory vows]] knights swear make everyone an oathbreaker eventually. For instance, what if you've sworn to protect the king and defend the innocent, but the king massacres the innocent?

* Being motivated by jealousy doesn't make Cersei's assessment of Margaery as a manipulative social climber any less true.

* The worst thing about Tywin's [[TheReasonYouSuckSpeech denunciations]]—whether it's calling Jaime an [[BrilliantButLazy ambitionless bodyguard]], Cersei [[SmugSnake less clever than she thinks]], or Tyrion a fool for his [[HookersAndBlow drinking and whoring]]—is that he often has a point. Ironically, his own failings as a father seem completely lost on him.

* Rickard Karstark, a man who sought vengeance by killing two unarmed Lannister squires who were being held prisoner, is not exactly wrong in his criticism of Robb's leadership considering how much long term damage was done by Robb's poor choices.

* Robert's plot to kill Daenerys is definitely very underhanded and fueled by his hatred and fear, but Pycelle's point that a Dothraki invasion would also result in thousands of innocent deaths is quite persuasive.
* Notorious [[TheOathbreaker oathbreaker]] Jaime Lannister argues that the numerous and contradictory vows knights swear make everyone an oathbreaker eventually. For instance, what if you've sworn to protect the king and defend the innocent, but the king massacres the innocent?

* The Hound is coarse and mocking when he sees Arya practising with her rapier, but he proves absolutely right that it stands no chance against even a mediocre swordsman in full plate. In the Season 4 finale, when Brienne finds Arya with him, he is also right about the flaws in her plan to find and protect the Stark girls by finding them "someplace safe", as she promised Arya's mother Catelyn she would do. He explains that Ayra's parents and aunt are dead and there ''aren't'' a whole lot of safe places for Ayra to be, not with so many people wanting her dead. Likewise, the Hound's point about knights really being nothing more than vicious killers as opposed to noble heroes is pretty much on the nose, especially when you have scenes of knights violently murdering children and or talking about raping women.
* Sansa tells her brother Jon Snow that he needs to give up on rescuing their [[spoiler:little brother, Rickon Stark]] from the [[TheDreaded Boltons]] because he's a DeadManWalking -- even though Jon's primary motivation for taking up arms against the Boltons was to rescue [[spoiler:his brother Rickon]] and protect his sister Sansa from [[BastardBastard Ramsay Bolton]], while Sansa, herself, wanted to fight the Boltons in order to save [[spoiler:their brother Rickon]] and take back Winterfell. However, Sansa later tells Jon that they'll never be able to rescue [[spoiler:Rickon]] because he is a threat to Ramsay's rule [[spoiler:as a trueborn son of Ned Stark]] and as a result, [[spoiler:Rickon]] [[DeadManWalking won't live long]]. Jon insists they can't give up on [[spoiler:their brother.]] When Jon is presented with the chance of saving [[spoiler:Rickon]], he rides to rescue him [[spoiler:as Rickon runs for his life toward Jon]] away from {{sadist}} Ramsay, but Ramsay kills [[spoiler:Rickon]] right in front of Jon (just when Jon and [[spoiler:Rickon]] are just about to reach each other) -- letting Jon believe he had a chance to save [[spoiler:Rickon]] right up to the last second.

* The Hound is coarse and mocking when he sees Arya practising with her rapier, but he proves absolutely right that it stands no chance against even a mediocre swordsman in full plate. He is also right about the flaws in [[spoiler:Brienne]]'s plan to protect the Stark girls by finding them "someplace safe."
** Likewise, the Hound's point about knights really being nothing more than vicious killers as opposed to noble heroes is pretty much on the nose, especially when you have scenes of knights violently murdering children and or talking about raping women.
* Brienne finds Arya with the Hound in the Season 4 finale and wants to take her somewhere safe, as she promised Arya's mother Catelyn she would do so. The Hound explains that Ayra's parents and aunt are dead and there ''aren't'' a whole lot of safe places for Ayra to be, not with so many people wanting her dead.

[[JerkassHasAPoint This trope]] is a mainstay of the series:

* Being motivated by jealously doesn't make Cersei's assessment of Margaery as a manipulative social climber any less true.

* [[spoiler: A extreme example, but as smarmy and unbearable as he may be, Walder Frey's reason for turning on Robb does makes sense. Robb did break his deal with him. When Catelyn Stark begs for Robb's life by giving him her word, Frey is quick to point out that he has no reason to trust a Stark's word when they have already broken a promise in the past.]]