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*** In 1962 there were around 3.136 billion people on Earth killing 90% of them off would leave about 150m alive, and the vast majority not in America as Shaw appears to assume (given that when Charles read Emma's mind, he saw Shaw had his capital in Washington D.C. in the BadFuture she imagined). Probably the world would be covered in darkness for centuries so plant and alive life would struggle to survive, so Shaw would basically be King of a DeathWorld. On the ''other'' hand, it could be argued that in 1962 most people did not actually know just how destructive nuclear war would be- this is in fact the basis of the plot of the ''Film/JamesBond'' movie ''Film/YouOnlyLiveTwice'', set in 1967, where the villains assume that nuclear war between Russia and America would destroy both countries, but the majority of the world would survive and a new superpower (the BiggerBad who hired the villains, presumably Red China) would TakeOverTheWorld. The heroes don't bother to correct them, because back in the 60's the full effects of radiation poisoning were not known. Thus, it could all be FridgeBrilliance- Shaw's evil plan hinges on the fact that neither he nor anyone else fully understands just how much destruction will result from global nuclear war, or that they will all likely die from radiation poisoning before getting a chance to build a new world order.

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*** In 1962 there were around 3.136 billion people on Earth killing 90% of them off would leave about 150m alive, and the vast majority not in America as Shaw appears to assume (given that when Charles read Emma's mind, he saw Shaw had his capital in Washington D.C. in the BadFuture she imagined). Probably the world would be covered in darkness for centuries so plant and alive life would struggle to survive, so Shaw would basically be King of a DeathWorld. On the ''other'' hand, it could be argued that in 1962 most people did not actually know just how destructive nuclear war would be- this is in fact the basis of the plot of the ''Film/JamesBond'' movie ''Film/YouOnlyLiveTwice'', set in 1967, where the villains assume that nuclear war between Russia and America would destroy both countries, but the majority of the world would survive and a new superpower (the BiggerBad who (who hired the villains, presumably Red China) would TakeOverTheWorld. The heroes don't bother to correct them, because back in the 60's the full effects of radiation poisoning were not known. Thus, it could all be FridgeBrilliance- Shaw's evil plan hinges on the fact that neither he nor anyone else fully understands just how much destruction will result from global nuclear war, or that they will all likely die from radiation poisoning before getting a chance to build a new world order.

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** It's also possible that Darwin's powers simply made a mistake and went for the wrong adaptation. It's a genetic mutation, not divine protection, something in him has to be making the choices of how to adapt and whatever that is isn't perfect.

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*** It's widely assumed that mutants with physical mutations (Azazel, Raven, Hank, even Kurt later in the franchise) are born already mutated. That could explain why Raven has her abilities when she is very young.


** There's less problems fitting First Class with the other X-Men films as canon than there are fitting the StarWars prequels with their canon ([[JediTruth "Your father was a kind man, dedicated pilot, owned a cargo ship, Yoda trained me, and Leia was raised by your birth mother."]] according to Obi-Wan and Leia) Minor fluctuations in age don't really matter much (17 or 24, it doesn't matter - the point is they met when they were young men), the writers confirmed that Havok is intended to be the father of the original trilogy's Cyclops, Beast's appearance shifts many times in the comics, and Professor X had to rebuild his own version of Cerebro (possibly with Magneto's help, even if another bigger mutant threat like Onslaught or Apocalypse appeared in the intervening 40 years). The only thing that raises an eyebrow is Emma's agelessness, but MANY MANY mutants have retarded aging as a minor power, so I'm perfectly willing to let that slide. Even Professor X has regained and lost the ability to walk many, many times and Magneto is a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, explaining why they would still occasionally cooperate with each other to do this like interview Jean Grey or rebuild Cerebro or other mutually beneficial acts. WordOfGod also claims it was intended to be in-canon with the other films and 40 years between movies is ''a lot'' of time for all that stuff above to happen.

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** There's less problems fitting First Class with the other X-Men films as canon than there are fitting the StarWars Franchise/StarWars prequels with their canon ([[JediTruth "Your father was a kind man, dedicated pilot, owned a cargo ship, Yoda trained me, and Leia was raised by your birth mother."]] according to Obi-Wan and Leia) Minor fluctuations in age don't really matter much (17 or 24, it doesn't matter - the point is they met when they were young men), the writers confirmed that Havok is intended to be the father of the original trilogy's Cyclops, Beast's appearance shifts many times in the comics, and Professor X had to rebuild his own version of Cerebro (possibly with Magneto's help, even if another bigger mutant threat like Onslaught or Apocalypse appeared in the intervening 40 years). The only thing that raises an eyebrow is Emma's agelessness, but MANY MANY mutants have retarded aging as a minor power, so I'm perfectly willing to let that slide. Even Professor X has regained and lost the ability to walk many, many times and Magneto is a HeelFaceRevolvingDoor, explaining why they would still occasionally cooperate with each other to do this like interview Jean Grey or rebuild Cerebro or other mutually beneficial acts. WordOfGod also claims it was intended to be in-canon with the other films and 40 years between movies is ''a lot'' of time for all that stuff above to happen.


* Why does Beast an accomplished scientist and engineer tell Banshee to make his [[YouFailPhysicsForever sound waves supersonic?]]

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* Why does Beast an accomplished scientist and engineer tell Banshee to make his [[YouFailPhysicsForever [[ArtisticLicensePhysics sound waves supersonic?]]

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** Well Raven/Mystique is a wandering orphan who is having to scavenge just to eat. That speaks to some off-screen trauma of some sort. As for Charles; well puberty is a process not an event, and it does start around the 12ish age. Charles' powers just came in very early on. Note that both Charles and Mystique are ''very'' powerful mutants, so an early blooming of their powers might be expected.

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* When we see Raven and Charles meet as children, why do they already have their mutations? If this Troper remembers correctly, it says that Charles was 12 in this scene and Raven probably a few years younger. My understanding is that the mutation is only triggered during one's first traumatic experience or puberty, whichever comes first. So, how did Charles and Raven develop their mutations that early, especially Raven? Forgive me for not being familiar with the comics, but was Raven actually born with her mutation? Or were she and Charles just rare exceptions to the normal mutation trigger?


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** Uh... she did care. At least, a little, as evidenced by her geniune OhCrap reaction where she put her hands over her mouth. If she truly didn't care at that point, she wouldn't have had that reaction, natural or faking it, though that may teeter on the edge of YMMV, so do with that as you wish...

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* So...just what is Shaw's helmet made out of that prevents telepaths from reading his mind?
** Isn't it made of metal? Why couldn't Magneto just take it off of him from a distance?
*** Not all metals are magnetic.
** Probably the same material as the nuclear chamber in his sub, since Charles couldn't reach anyone that went inside.
** [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Vibranium?]].
** Thought why would he need it, since Shaw specifically mentions being able to absorb energy, and unlike his comic version, it isn't limited to kinetic energy, as he was able to absorb both a grenade blast and a lot of radiation. Shouldn't that count for whatever energy is used for telepaths to read minds? Assuming the phrase 'Psychic energy' often used in comics to describe telepaths and telekinetics use of their powers applies to the films too, as noted previously, thought now removed for some reason.
*** Actually a grenade blast is kinetic energy.
** A funny answer would be tinfoil, for its connection to paranoia... but most metal foil for sale to civilians in a grocery store is actually aluminum. Maybe it's a joke reference? But in reality, though, metals in general are great at blocking any frequencies of EM radiation that are not strong enough to punch through or broad enough to simply overlap. It's the density, not necessarily a unique property of said metal, that would be the benefit.

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* So...just what is Shaw's helmet made out of that prevents telepaths from reading his mind?
** Isn't it made of metal? Why couldn't Magneto just take it off of him from a distance?
*** Not all metals are magnetic.
** Probably the same material as the nuclear chamber in his sub, since Charles couldn't reach anyone that went inside.
** [[ComicBook/CaptainAmerica Vibranium?]].
** Thought why would he need it, since Shaw specifically mentions being able to absorb energy, and unlike his comic version, it isn't limited to kinetic energy, as he was able to absorb both a grenade blast and a lot of radiation. Shouldn't that count for whatever energy is used for telepaths to read minds? Assuming the phrase 'Psychic energy' often used in comics to describe telepaths and telekinetics use of their powers applies to the films too, as noted previously, thought now removed for some reason.
*** Actually a grenade blast is kinetic energy.
** Tin. It is a well known secret that tin blocks outside brain waves from getting in. It's why tin has been mostly replaced by aluminum for civilian purposes.
** Given that Shaw's helmet is basically Anti-Cerebro (one amplifies telepathic powers, the other blocks them), there is likely more to it than material it's made of, namely some complex and small electronics inside. Whoever built it apparently was a Beast-level genius.
* Shaw's entire plan: Putting aside the genocide and assuming Shaw is correct that mutants would be able to weather the radiation... Between the mutants that would die in the nuclear blasts themselves, those that would die of starvation and disease before they could be found by Shaw (assuming he would actually look for them) and those whose mutations would kill them once activated or altered by the radiation, you MIGHT have a couple thousand mutants worldwide to inherit the earth. That's probably not enough to repopulate the world with genetic sustainability -- again assuming that the fallout hasn't sterilized a significant portion of the survivors. Of course, Shaw was never portrayed as being particularly sane.
** Shaw threw Erik around while inside the nuclear chamber, and while getting his ass kicked Erik showed no signs of the negative side effects of being in a nuclear chamber. So apparently, mutants are immune to radiation. Thought, this is also the 1940-60s, while we understood radiation isn't friendly, we still didn't know everything about it. Shaw was shown to be qualified in genetics, its possible his knowledge of radiation isn't exactly that great, and just assumed ''"Hey, mutants are immune to radiation, and I can both manipulate a Nuclear holocaust and turn myself into an atomic bomb. Lets see how this all plays out, maybe I can genocide all humans and leave the mutants to live freely, ForScience!!."'' Of course, it was never mentioned what his plan was for food after all the animals are wiped out, [[ImAHumanitarian unless he plans for them to eat each...]] Lets not think about it.
** With the number of nukes both sides had at the time of the historical Cuban Missile Crisis, the entire world would hardly be a lifeless wasteland. One of the reasons to Soviets wanted missiles on Cuba was the fact that nuclear [=ICBMs=] were still relatively new tech, and being able to hit the US with short-ranged missiles would seriously increase the number of nukes the USSR could actually deliver onto US soil.
*** Also, most of the damage in a 1960's nuclear war would be limited to the US, USSR, and Europe. Shaw might have just planned on building his new mutant civilization in Australia, Africa, South America, or some other place that would be relatively unscathed.
** Remember that '''First Class''' was set in the 60s - the era that brought us heroes like Spiderman (bit by a radioactive spider), The Hulk (caught in a Gamma Bomb blast) and the Fantastic Four (bombarded with cosmic radiation). Shaw's plan seems downright logical from that perspective.
** Something to be noted is that studies show that the number of people roughly need to sustain a viable human population without causing genetic in-breeding is 500, so 2,000 mutants would be more than enough to maintain a viable mutant population.

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** Also, in that case Azazel would've simply whisked Show and the others away.



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** If he's dumb and arrogant enough to become a Nazi, he'a dumb and arrogant enough to believe he could lead mutant-kind to supremacy despite nuclear armageddon. It's about broad characterization more than sensible plots.




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** As some other fans have pointed out, silver coins aren't 100% silver—apparently reichmarks were about 90% silver and that 10% could easily contain magnetic metals. Same probably goes for bullets—in fact, tha would explain why the most evidence we see in XM:FC of his ability to stop bullets going the wrong places is...below par. If he's still learning how to use his powers he might not be able to identify or manipulate the trace magnetic metals in bullets as fast as the bullet can hit the wrong target. However, the silver coin is shown to be something of an obsession for him, so he could well have learned to manipulate it intuitively before understading the principles of it.



*** We actually SEE him make her forget, so what, he just ended with "Ha, jsut kidding, we're gonna fake it."?

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*** We actually SEE him make her forget, so what, he just ended with "Ha, jsut just kidding, we're gonna fake it."?




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*** Considering Erik seems to have spent his childhood in a concentration camp and his adulthood determinedly pursuing Nazis he may not have had time or the inclination to ccurl up with ''Physics Review''. Not to mention that knowledge about nuclear power and radiation was fairly difficult to come by during the height of the cold war.



*** A freight train is significantly bigger than a human. My physics knowledge is poor but I assume density comes in here somewhere.



*** But Is That Movie Canon?



** Shapeshifting from flesh to an alternate form heals most wounds in the Marvel universe. With Iceman, Colossus, and Emma, the damage to their ice, steel, and diamond forms or even human forms isn't permanent because they're not swapping between two bodies stored in hyper-space or something, they're altering the physical make-up their body from scratch each time - rebuilding their bodies in the selected material each time. Like if you cloned a person who was crippled in an accident, their clone wouldn't be crippled. Same concept.

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** Shapeshifting from flesh to an alternate form heals most wounds in the Marvel universe. With Iceman, Colossus, and Emma, the damage to their ice, steel, and diamond forms or even human forms isn't permanent because they're not swapping between two bodies stored in hyper-space or something, they're altering the physical make-up their body from scratch each time - rebuilding their bodies in the selected material each time. Like if you cloned a person who was crippled in permanently disabled from an accident, their clone wouldn't be crippled.retain that disability. Same concept.




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*** Could plausibly be due to inter-service rivalries or paranoia as well as the reasons mentioned above.



** Physics in First Class works on the 1960s comic book model, where you can pass an Oxford defense with a thesis which hinges on the average nuclear reactor emiting a noteworthy amount of radiation (hint: if any radiation escapes the core, everyone should be panicing), which then causes superpowers instead of birth defects. While there is no assurance that the existing mutants will do a better job of surviving the war, the radiation infested world would lead to a dramatic shift in birth rates in favor of mutants. Further, following said 60's comic model, the radiation may cause previously "baseline" humans to become mutants as well. The real question is why anyone would rally to the guy who ended the world.

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** Physics in First Class works on the 1960s comic book model, where you can pass an Oxford defense with a thesis which hinges on the average nuclear reactor emiting a noteworthy amount of radiation (hint: if any radiation escapes the core, everyone should be panicing), panicking), which then causes superpowers instead of birth defects. While there is no assurance that the existing mutants will do a better job of surviving the war, the radiation infested world would lead to a dramatic shift in birth rates in favor of mutants. Further, following said 60's comic model, the radiation may cause previously "baseline" humans to become mutants as well. The real question is why anyone would rally to the guy who ended the world.



*** Based on nuclear doctrine of the time, there are large sections of both America and the Soviet Union that would not be targeted, due to the absence of military assets or a sufficient population density for a proper counter-value strike (Siberia, Kamchaka, etc. in the Soviet Union, any part of "flyover country" that is more than 10 miles away from a military base in the U.S.), which would result in multiple megadeaths but leave a large number of survivors. Same but less with Canada, due to them allowing the Americans to set up early warning assets that are viable targets. Europe and the U.K. is pretty Boolaean, in that they either stay out of it and get away clean, or they go all in and become a nuke-blasted fuckhole, due to the distribution of military assets and population centers in a relatively small area. China is a coin toss, as they were already sliding away from the Soviets to do their own thing at this point, and as such may not get hit at all. Japan is f'd worse than Europe, because they are tight enough in with the Americans that slipping under the radar is unlikely. Major population centers in Latin and South America, Africa are likely to get away clean, and Australia has pretty good odds of staying out of it. End result is an immediate survivor population either in the billions with a good amount of surviving infrastructure (best case) or high millions in a shattered wreck of a planet (worst case), with likely 20-40% additional casualties from illness and starvation in the following 1-5 years and (assuming Xavier's thesis is correct) a dramatic spike in visible mutation among the surivors and the first generation born after the exchange. Such a world could be filled with prime targets for a charismatic wackball with easy answers (Blame the Humans!)and a secretary who can make the Articles of Surrender look like a voucher for free cotton candy.

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*** Based on nuclear doctrine of the time, there are large sections of both America and the Soviet Union that would not be targeted, due to the absence of military assets or a sufficient population density for a proper counter-value strike (Siberia, Kamchaka, etc. in the Soviet Union, any part of "flyover country" that is more than 10 miles away from a military base in the U.S.), which would result in multiple megadeaths but leave a large number of survivors. Same but less with Canada, due to them allowing the Americans to set up early warning assets that are viable targets. Europe and the U.K. is pretty Boolaean, Boolean, in that they either stay out of it and get away clean, or they go all in and become a nuke-blasted fuckhole, due to the distribution of military assets and population centers in a relatively small area. China is a coin toss, as they were already sliding away from the Soviets to do their own thing at this point, and as such may not get hit at all. Japan is f'd worse than Europe, because they are tight enough in with the Americans that slipping under the radar is unlikely. Major population centers in Latin and South America, Africa are likely to get away clean, and Australia has pretty good odds of staying out of it. End result is an immediate survivor population either in the billions with a good amount of surviving infrastructure (best case) or high millions in a shattered wreck of a planet (worst case), with likely 20-40% additional casualties from illness and starvation in the following 1-5 years and (assuming Xavier's thesis is correct) a dramatic spike in visible mutation among the surivors and the first generation born after the exchange. Such a world could be filled with prime targets for a charismatic wackball with easy answers (Blame the Humans!)and a secretary who can make the Articles of Surrender look like a voucher for free cotton candy.
** Shaw's plans are meant to reflect the ambitions of the Nazis: exterminate the "useless" population, create new world with plenty of room, lead the race into age of prosperity. The actual plausability of success isn't relevant to the role the plan plays within the narrative, ie providing a big set piece at the end and creating an allegory for real-life oppression as X-Men is wont to do.



** He seemed to switch English. The Nazi asks "Who’what are you?" in German while Erik drinks his beer, the camera zooms in as he finishes the bear, and without any dramatic change in the music, replies in English "Lets just say I'm Frankenstein's monster," turned around to walk and walked over to the picture of Shaw and the Nazis too stare at it, continued with "I'm looking for my creator," before taking the gun from the dead Argentinian man and shooting the man.

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** He seemed to switch English. The Nazi asks "Who’what are you?" in German while Erik drinks his beer, the camera zooms in as he finishes the bear, beer, and without any dramatic change in the music, replies in English "Lets just say I'm Frankenstein's monster," turned around to walk and walked over to the picture of Shaw and the Nazis too stare at it, continued with "I'm looking for my creator," before taking the gun from the dead Argentinian man and shooting the man.


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**Yes, there was Angel, the other black character. The other black character who became a villain and never appeared in another movie. The other black character who became a villain and left the main team, which was now 100% wonderbread and has stayed that way since.

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*** Couldn't Charles make Shaw duck the coin though?


*** The only thing that confuses me is that Shaw didn't come across as being poetic: he actually said "radiation gave birth to us" and seemed to be saying that mutants would thrive in a nuclear war due to that fact. Which is a strange thing to say since ''he himself'' predates the atomic age, along with at least Erik (whom he knows of personally), Xavier, Raven and Logan. While natural radiation can cause mutation, other things can too, and it doesn't seem like Shaw has enough evidence to narrow it down like that (or if he did, like knowing that mutant births have been spiking bigtime since WW2, he didn't bring it up). There is the possibility that Shaw is just plain crazy, but you'd think Xavier would have given the audience some clue of that, like saying "that's crazy!" the moment he read Emma's mind and found out about it. Or alternately, maybe it's a case of ViewersAreGeniuses and the writers are counting on the audience to put the pieces together and realize that nuclear power's the reason why more and more mutants are being born.

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*** The only thing that confuses me is that Shaw didn't come across as being poetic: he actually said "radiation gave birth to us" and seemed to be saying that mutants would thrive in a nuclear war due to that fact. Which is a strange thing to say since ''he himself'' predates the atomic age, along with at least Erik (whom he knows of personally), Xavier, Raven and Logan. While natural radiation can cause mutation, other things can too, and it doesn't seem like Shaw has enough evidence to narrow it down like that (or if he did, like knowing that mutant births have been spiking bigtime since WW2, [=WW2=], he didn't bring it up). There is the possibility that Shaw is just plain crazy, but you'd think Xavier would have given the audience some clue of that, like saying "that's crazy!" the moment he read Emma's mind and found out about it. Or alternately, maybe it's a case of ViewersAreGeniuses and the writers are counting on the audience to put the pieces together and realize that nuclear power's the reason why more and more mutants are being born.



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** That patch of grass is a mutant.

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