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** I think it's pretty obvious that it was purposefully built this way as a trap for him. He was the pharaoh, he didn't build the pyramid himself, and the people who did conspired against him.
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* What kind of ruler would have his giant pyramid be constructed with a self-destruct system that can be activated by two regular normal humans attacking a pair of narrow wooden supports? What would've happened in 10-20 years if those wooden beams holding up the giant stone pillars designed to careen through most of the pyramid's load-bearing struts got rotted away from exposure to the elements? What purpose does such a self-destruct system actually serve?
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** RealityEnsues. Decapitation is not nearly as easy as some movies make it look, considering there are bones in the neck to get around. A strong, heavy blade plus strength on the executioner's part are necessary; a blade simply being sharp isn't enough. Mystique most likely knew this and thought slitting Big Blue's throat would have sufficed; she didn't know he had a healing factor and was stunned when she realized he wasn't dying.
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** RealityEnsues.SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome. Decapitation is not nearly as easy as some movies make it look, considering there are bones in the neck to get around. A strong, heavy blade plus strength on the executioner's part are necessary; a blade simply being sharp isn't enough. Mystique most likely knew this and thought slitting Big Blue's throat would have sufficed; she didn't know he had a healing factor and was stunned when she realized he wasn't dying.
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*** Mystique can look however old she wants, that's nothing new. And we've known [[Film/XMenTheLastStand for years now]] that Moira was still going to look like [[Creator/OliviaWilliams a woman in her mid-thirties]] by 2006. It's really only an issue with Xavier and Beast, since it's fairly common knowledge what [[{{Film/Dune}} Patrick Stewart]] and [[{{Series/Cheers}} Kelsey Grammer]] looked like in 1983.
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*** Mystique can look however old she wants, that's nothing new. And we've known [[Film/XMenTheLastStand for years now]] that Moira was still going to look like [[Creator/OliviaWilliams a woman in her mid-thirties]] by 2006. It's really only an issue with Xavier and Beast, since it's fairly common knowledge what [[{{Film/Dune}} [[Film/Dune1984 Patrick Stewart]] and [[{{Series/Cheers}} Kelsey Grammer]] looked like in 1983.
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** Honestly, I think it was pity. It has been 10 years since Days of Future Past and she knows he tried to start over. But now everything's been taken from him again. He betrayed her, but he was still her family, she says so during the climax.
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* I don't mean to fall into questioning the most basic of all prequel problems, but I'm trying to make sure I'm not missing something- is there any reason to believe Cyclops, Jean, Xaviar and any other character clearly alive in the good future at the end of ''Days of Future Past'' aren't clearly going to make it out of this movie alive?
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* I don't mean to fall into questioning the most basic of all prequel problems, but I'm trying to make sure I'm not missing something- is there any reason to believe Cyclops, Jean, Xaviar Xavier and any other character clearly alive in the good future at the end of ''Days of Future Past'' aren't clearly going to make it out of this movie alive?alive?
** This troper will humor you: perhaps the mutants you're referencing (and Wolverine meets at the end of DOFP) aren't actually the same people? Imposters? Clones? SKRULLS?!? The possibilities (however far-fetched and unlikely) are LIMITLESS!!!
** This troper will humor you: perhaps the mutants you're referencing (and Wolverine meets at the end of DOFP) aren't actually the same people? Imposters? Clones? SKRULLS?!? The possibilities (however far-fetched and unlikely) are LIMITLESS!!!
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** Two things: First Angel also has a handful of lesser super powers that make his having wings actually work and second flight is a fairly rare power in the movie universe. Aside from Angel only Jean, Storm and Magneto are capable of it (since Banshee is dead now).
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** Two things: First Angel also has a handful of lesser super powers that make his having wings actually work and second flight is a fairly rare power in the movie universe. Aside from Angel Angel, only Jean, Storm and Magneto are capable of it (since Banshee is and Angel Salvadore are dead now).
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*** The movie's Blu-Ray has a deleted scene between Storm and Xavier where Xavier notes Storm "is not like them" and not a killer. Storm makes it clear her own family and village case her out when she got her powers.
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*** The movie's Blu-Ray has a deleted scene between Storm and Xavier where Xavier notes Storm "is not like them" and not a killer. Storm makes it clear her own family and village case cast her out when she got her powers.
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** Unless he wants to be his jailer for life now that Magneto can reach metal from the Earth's core no prison can hold him. Also Xavier has no intention to let his frienemy being sent in jail where guys like Trask are waiting to cut him up, especially when the government never charged the latter for butchering a bunch of mutants, just treason.
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** Unless he wants to be his jailer for life now that Magneto can reach metal from the Earth's core no prison can hold him. Also Xavier has no intention to let his frienemy frenemy being sent in jail where guys like Trask are waiting to cut him up, especially when the government never charged the latter for butchering a bunch of mutants, just treason.
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** I have. The coclusion there is that no mind control was involved - just persuation, incitement of existing grudges, and bribes. What's your point?
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** I have. The coclusion conclusion there is that no mind control was involved - just persuation, persuasion, incitement of existing grudges, and bribes. What's your point?
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** Charles let him go because he's Chalres: He gives people, at least the ones he knows personally, infinite chances, and his word is final.
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** Charles let him go because he's Chalres: Charles: He gives people, at least the ones he knows personally, infinite chances, and his word is final.
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** Judging by the pyramid he uses to BobySurf, Apocalypse had some ''very'' advanced technology at his disposal in ancient Egypt.
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** And maybe y'know he didn't want to traumatise his daughter by using his powers to attack a bunch of policemen. He's about to go with them when her powers start going haywire.
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** I thought in said scene that Magneto had at least slight idea who Quiksilver might be, but he wanted to hear his reason to be there instead of doing some teary family reencounter.
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** I thought in said scene that Magneto had at least slight idea who Quiksilver might be, but he wanted to hear his reason to be there instead of doing some teary family reencounter.re-encounter.
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** The more accurate answer is that Moira (and / or the film itself) is just plain wrong, which is sort-of justifiable since she's ex-[=CIA=] and not a true Bible scholar. In fact even in the film it's just that Apocalypse likes having four strong mutants by his side as his CoDragons and it's the heroes who infer a connection to the Bible, which is highly unlikely to be correct since the only mention of the Horsemen in the Bible is in the Book of Revelation which was written thousands of years after Apocalypse was imprisoned and have wildly different roles than being glorified mooks to some powerful-but-killable mutant maniac. Apocalypse never really calls them that himself and if he does, it's either coincidence or he's just well-versed on the Bible following his encounter with the television and invoking it himself to further his GodGuise.
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** You can see, why X-Men never seem to achieve any progress for mutant-human relations.
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** And the helicopter Jean and co get into doesn't have any captives - so the soldiers don't know they've stowed away and therefore don't need to unload it. More simply they could have just hidden and waited until the way was clear before getting out the normal way.
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** And maybe y'know he didn't want to traumatise his daughter by using his powers to attack a bunch of policemen. He's about to go with them when her powers start going haywire.
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** Because he's not an experienced fighter and has been relying on his speed all his life. He broke in and out of the Pentagon quite easily in the 70s so it wouldn't be out of character for him to assume he could handle Apocalypse using just his speed.
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* Why does´nt Quicksilver use a weapon, like a knife, when fighting Apocalypse? He could have stabbed him multiple times in a splitsecond, doing way more damage than just using his fists.
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* Why does´nt doesn't Quicksilver use a weapon, like a knife, when fighting Apocalypse? He could have stabbed him multiple times in a splitsecond, doing way more damage than just using his fists.
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* Why does´nt Quicksilver use a weapon, like a knife, when fighting Apocalypse? He could have stabbed him multiple times in a splitsecond, doing way more damage than just using his fists.
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*** Right, because when Magneto made his big speech about mutant supremacy, he added, "Except the Communists, you guys are cool, we'll just leave you alone"? I don't remember that bit.
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* Charles let him go because he's Chalres: He gives people, at least the ones he knows personally, infinite chances, and his word is final.
* Charles let him go because he's Chalres: He gives people, at least the ones he knows personally, infinite chances, and his word is final.
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** For the sake of not going into a pointless argument of whether supplement materials matter in such cases, let's suppose Erik was indeed not (entirely) himself. Mind you, that's still just a possibility, not a certainty. How does that absolve him from a trial? What right does Charles have to waive his responsibility to the world? How is he any better than Apocalypse if "his word is final" and that word is to let a bitter, violent, openly misanthropic and questionably stable PersonOfMassDestruction go free?
