History Headscratchers / Tsukihime

** Ciel had a French father and Asian mother (no specific country), so she'd fall under the MixedAncestry trope, and you can more or less read it either way you like. It's obviously not addressed much in the story itself because Ciel [[BackstoryInvader brainwashed everyone to think she'd always been there]], so the majority are incapable of recognizing her as an outsider in any way, shape or form.

** Ciel had a French father and Asian mother (no specific country), so she'd fall under the MixedAncestry trope, and you can more or less read it either way you like. It's obviously not addressed much in the story itself because Ciel brainwashed everyone to [[RememberTheNewGuy think she'd always been there]], so the majority are incapable of recognizing her as an outsider in any way, shape or form.

** Ceil had a French father and Asian mother (no specific country), so she'd fall under the MixedAncestry trope, and you can more or less read it either way you like. It's obviously not addressed much in the story itself because Ceil brainwashed everyone to [[RememberTheNewGuy think she'd always been there]], so the majority are incapable of recognizing her as an outsider in any way, shape or form.

* Ceil had a French father and Asian mother, so she'd fall under the MixedAncestry trope, and you can more or less read it either way you like. It's obviously not addressed much in the story itself because Ceil brainwashed everyone to [[RememberTheNewGuy think she'd always been there]], so the majority are incapable of recognizing her as an outsider in any way, shape or form.

* Arcueid and Ciel hate each others' guts, no big secret (even before you add [[ChickMagnet Shiki]] to the picture). They're also both hunting down Roa, both have [[IHateYouVampireDad their]] [[LaserGuidedTykebomb own]] [[DeathSeeker reasons]] for doing so, and both emphatically turn down the idea of cooperating whenever Shiki brings it up. And yet, as for that last part...if Ciel finds Roa first, both of their problems could be solved, since she's got the method to kill him ''[[FinalDeath permanently]]''. Ciel has to realize this, and since Arcueid is familiar with Ciel's position and abilities in the Burial Agency, she most likely does, too. Gotta ask, do they really hate each other ''that much''?

*** Okay, that explains possible Ciel motivations. Nothing stopping Arcueid from, say, killing enough zombies to force Roa into the open, waiting for Ciel to dry-hump him to FinalDeath with metallic apocrypha, and going on her merry way (with or without Shiki depending on the route). On the other hand, combine the previous two entries together...that's a fairly convincing, two-sided picture, actually.

* So I played this game years ago and just recently I randomly decided ot watch the anime (which yes, doesn't exist, shut up), and a thought struck me while watching Akiha be a bitch to Ciel, is Ciel meant to be a foreigner? Like visibly, is she caucasian? I know there's a bit of a sterotype that all anime characters are white, but generally speaking anime designs do give visual cues that let people know wether a character is meant to be white or asian, and Tsukihime even does this with Arcueid with a character (in the anime at least) calling her a foreign beauty. But I don't really see it with Ciel, like at all. I'd be curious to know if a Japanese viewer would be able to tell she's not meant to be a Japanese character. Of course her being the character she is, it's possible she isn't meant to look foreign at all as she's undercover, but then you have her really distinctly not Japanese name of Ciel. And if she is meant to look foreign then when Akiha is all passive aggressive to her without explaining why, wouldn't racism be the obvious assumption on other people's part (despite Akiha's house being also distinctly western)? I just find it all a bit odd given how Arcueid is so clearly coded whiel Ciel isn't. Like I said, I played the visual novel years ago so maybe Ciel is just straight up seen as a foreigner by her class mates and I just can't remember it.

The result: a Kohaku who seizes her chance at happiness by jumping back from the cliff edge and trying to set things right. And the fact that she ''succeeded'' was a TearJerker in an [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming entirely different way]].

** Because they're maids. It's to continue the {{fetish fuel}}.
*** Curses. Stupid fetish...they're cuter without them, dammit!

** LoveTriangle over Shiki. With Arc's trouble suppressing her urges, Ciel is justifiably against Shiki spending so much time with Arc. Plus, Arc is something that must be destroyed, in the Church's eyes. You wanna try selling your "two birds with one stone" argument with [[{{Hellsing}} a certain other fanatical hunter]]?

*** Well, since we're just slinging opinions back and forth by this point or, like you said, we simply have different perspectives, so just going to say one more thing. I wouldn't expect the maids to have a big role either, they'd simply get skimmed over with a compressed explanation since anyone already playing ''knows,'' though Shiki doesn't. They've used that before when switching between routes. Oh, and the Forest thing is still up in the air on its value as canon, isn't it? And Arcueid is just sort of mentioned, iirc there's no real solid info on their relationship. Finally, yea, probably should be moved to JustBugsMe as it's about the difficulties of a coherent storyline.

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