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*** Yeah, that makes sense, just came off as weird given her reaction in season one.

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* She either forgets the lesson, or learns it wrong. Book 1, she was supposed to have learned that there are some problems she can't punch through (which ended up being a problem she can punch through, but we'll ignore that for now), and she also got manipulated by a Northern Tribe leader into doing exactly what he wants in the name of "it's your job, Avatar." In Book 2, she forgets the last time she got manipulated by a Northern Tribe leader, and Unaloq got her to do exactly what he wanted to further his plans. Book 3 she manages to get better and consults with other people before deciding on a course of action. But then Book 4 rolls around and apparently she's falling for the old "I really just want peace, even though I got my entire army parked here ready to enforce peace through superior firepower at any moment, do your job Avatar and talk to the opposition and convince them to not resist because your job is to maintain peace even if peace only ever helps me" trick again. What do you call it when the main character learns lessons and just consistently applies them wrong?

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*** ** Yeah, that makes sense, just came off as weird given her reaction in season one.

[[folder: Korra is REALLY BAD at learning the correct lessons from previous seasons]]
* She either forgets the lesson, or learns it wrong. Book 1, she was supposed to have learned that there are some problems she can't punch through (which ended up being a problem she can punch through, but we'll ignore that for now), and she also got manipulated by a Northern Tribe leader into doing exactly what he wants in the name of "it's your job, Avatar." In Book 2, she forgets the last time she got manipulated by a Northern Tribe leader, and Unaloq got her to do exactly what he wanted to further his plans. Book 3 she manages to get better and consults with other people before deciding on a course of action. But then Book 4 rolls around and apparently she's falling for the old "I really just want peace, even though I got my entire army parked here ready to enforce peace through superior firepower at any moment, do your job Avatar and talk to the opposition and convince them to not resist because your job is to maintain peace even if peace only ever helps me" trick again. What do you call it when the main character learns lessons and just consistently applies them wrong?
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[[folder: Korra is REALLY BAD at learning the correct lessons from previous seasons]]
* She either forgets the lesson, or learns it wrong. Book 1, she was supposed to have learned that there are some problems she can't punch through (which ended up being a problem she can punch through, but we'll ignore that for now), and she also got manipulated by a Northern Tribe leader into doing exactly what he wants in the name of "it's your job, Avatar." In Book 2, she forgets the last time she got manipulated by a Northern Tribe leader, and Unaloq got her to do exactly what he wanted to further his plans. Book 3 she manages to get better and consults with other people before deciding on a course of action. But then Book 4 rolls around and apparently she's falling for the old "I really just want peace, even though I got my entire army parked here ready to enforce peace through superior firepower at any moment, do your job Avatar and talk to the opposition and convince them to not resist because your job is to maintain peace even if peace only ever helps me" trick again. What do you call it when the main character learns lessons and just consistently applies them wrong?
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*** Albeit the way reincarnation is presented in Avatar seems far from the standard. Aang's past lives seemed to exist independently of Aang and in fact could be off doing other things in other places (i.e. Avatar Kuruk is seen to still be searching for his wife in the spirit world). Season 2 of Legend of Korra placed great emphasis as well on the fact Korra had her own spirit/soul independant of the avatar.
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*** Yeah, that makes sense, just came off as weird given her reaction in season one.
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** Because it was her uncle doing it and he had a good excuse, at least in her opinion. That and he kept manipulating her.





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* Why did Korra just allow the Northern Tribe to station an army at the south pole and clearly oppress the southerners when she got mad about Tarlock pulling the same stunt against non-benders in season one (which was more justified given that the equalists were made up of non benders.)
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* It's definitely odd that the series doesn't explore this more. Korra trying to suborn the Republic City military for her own purposes is a [[SevenDaysInMay big NO]] in a democracy, and Asami happily jumping into war profiteering doesn't seem to have registered as a "Hey, wait a minute, I'm getting rich off selling Korra's tribespeople weapons". I mean, is Team Avatar supposed to be the ''good'' guys or what?

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* It's definitely odd that the series doesn't explore this more. Korra trying to suborn the Republic City military for her own purposes is a [[SevenDaysInMay [[Literature/SevenDaysInMay big NO]] in a democracy, and Asami happily jumping into war profiteering doesn't seem to have registered as a "Hey, wait a minute, I'm getting rich off selling Korra's tribespeople weapons". I mean, is Team Avatar supposed to be the ''good'' guys or what?

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** They did have good intentions for keeping Korra there. In season 3 we learn a group of VERY POWERFUL criminals (including Magma Man(the earthbender), Armless waterwhip lady, Mr. Badass nonbender, and Combustion girl!) tried to kidnap toddler!Korra for unknown reasons. Seems like a good reason to me. (But at the time it seemed weird to this tropette too)

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** They did have good intentions for keeping Korra there. In season 3 we learn a group of VERY POWERFUL criminals (including Magma Man(the earthbender), Armless waterwhip lady, Mr. Badass nonbender, and Combustion girl!) tried to kidnap toddler!Korra for then unknown reasons. Seems like a good reason to me. (But at the time it seemed weird to this tropette too)too).
** Season two makes Korra's anger over being locked up in the compound and lied to about it a major motivation for her rejection of her father and Tenzin. Keeping her safe from the Red Lotus may have been necessary, but there's no doubt that keeping the truth from her and outright lying by saying Aang wanted her to be sheltered did more harm than good.


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*** Whether it was to save himself from getting killed or horribly burned/beaten up, the intro narration for the next episode outright states Tarrlok resorted to bloodbending to "save himself." At the very least he beleived Korra was not bluffing with her attack. What that says about Korra is another matter, but we see in later parts of the series that she is quite willing to kill if she believes it is justified.
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** According to commentary apparently the "I care about you" scene between Mako and Asami was meant to be them breaking up, it just was too subtle for many fans.

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* At the next Harmonic Convergence, Vaatu will be reborn out of Raava -- just like how Raava was reborn out of Unavaatu in this one. Killing one of these spirits is only temporary, but if killed, they will stay dead until the next Harmonic Convergence. So the descendants of Korra's generation have ten thousand more years to spare.

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* ** At the next Harmonic Convergence, Vaatu will be reborn out of Raava -- just like how Raava was reborn out of Unavaatu in this one. Killing one of these spirits is only temporary, but if killed, they will stay dead until the next Harmonic Convergence. So the descendants of Korra's generation have ten thousand more years to spare.spare.
** Is Harmonic Convergence really necessary in order for the "dead" spirit to be reborn? Raava leaves it pretty vague.
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**Aang also didn't master all of the elements in a year. In "Sozin's Comet: Part I," both Toph and Zuko said that he still had a lot to learn about earthbending and firebending. It also seems that Aang didn't learn to use any of the special sub-skills of the other elements, like lightning-bending (although he did learn lightning redirection), bloodbending or metal-bending. It's explicitly stated that Korra is the first Avatar to learn metalbending. In a year's time Aang just learned the other three elements to an acceptable level of skill so that he could activate the Avatar State and defeat Sozin, but it's likely he continued training extensively after the Hundred Year War.
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** I read that as Bolin lying ''up until'' the point where Eska kissed him. Because the idea that he was always fine with the way she treated him is pretty ludicrous and blatantly contradicts his behavious in the beginning of the season.
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*** This particular explanation is Jossed in "Long Live the Queen." The airships are from the Cabbage Corp.
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** It's a bit more complicated than that, however. Prior to season 2 finale, the southern water tribe exist as a political extension of the northern water tribe. Korra's father is only considered the de facto chief, because his power is legally nonexistent. Technically, when Unalaq move troops on the the southern water tribe, he is moving troops on his own turf. Of course Raiko and others fully realized the prodigious hypocrisy of the situation, especially since the southern tribe was originally founded as a way to get away from the conservatism of the northern tribe. However, they don't legally have a leg to stand on that would allow an attack Unalaq's troops. Point being, Asami is supplying ""rebels"" troops with weapons. But said rebels are against a government that has established diplomatic ties with the other and is considered to be legitimate by the other nations, which not only prevent for the time being those governments to act, because doing so would be an act of war, but also mean Asami is supplying enemies of the Republic (ie: if Unalaq's government is technically allied to Republic city's, then by giving weapons to the rebels, you're indirectly giving weapons to enemy of the city). Furthermore, how is Tonrak supposed to pay for that metric fuckton of mecha? Either he is that full of cash, or he is going to steal money from Unalaq's government. So that's even worse.
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** They did have good intentions for keeping Korra there. In season 3 we learn a group of VERY POWERFUL criminals (including Magma Man(the earthbender), Armless waterwhip lady, Mr. Badass nonbender, and Combustion girl!) tried to kidnap toddler!Korra for unknown reasons. Seems like a good reason to me. (But at the time it seemed weird to this tropette too)
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*** Plus getting electrucuted probably has an effect on bending for a while...
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** As was pointed out in the Fridge Brilliance page, the Earth Queen has a fleet of airships that look similar to ships that could've been manufactured by Future Industries. That's probably what happened.
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*** Confirmed. Asami states that all of the assets went back to her after Varrick's incarceration and escape. She totally made off with it, and the publicity boost from helping the Avatar probably gave her more business.
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* In my head it's less of a "Asami is now an arms dealer" situation and more along the lines of a Lend Lease style action, at least in terms of implications. The difference between an arms dealer, and a legitimate businessperson is sometimes a bit hazy but I don't think that Asami's sale of arms to the Southern tribe falls in the same category as modern real world arms dealers. The Southern Tribe is a nation, and like any other nation has the right to purchase military hardware to outfit its own armed forces.
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*** To me, it seemed far more that Jinora didn't 'overpower' Unavaatu so much as disrupt his attempt to destroy Korra's soul. Then she simply revived Raava as we saw, and that was it - as for how? Korra did just explictily draw on the cosmic power of the universe... who's to say Jinora didn't do the same general thing? She has the spiritual ability, for certain, and [[DontThinkFeel possibly felt her way through it by instinct]]. [[note]] And Jinora herself isn't fully sure how she did it in the first place, as she admits in the early episodes of Book 3, so this might have some credence. [[/note]]

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** Actually, it ''does'' come down to Ravva and Vaatu's strength. Unalaq was only one human, but Vaatu was explicitly the most powerful of the two spirits when he was sealed; there is no indication this (radically) changed before/during the finale. Korra was a human with Raava's considerably-weaker strength, plus all the power and skill of the numerous ''human'' Avatars (Raava being the half-spirit aspect for ''all of them''). The power gap between [[WeakButSkilled Korra+Raava]] and [[StrongButUnskilled Unalaq+Vaatu]] was practically nonexistent in this case, so it makes sense they were even imo, in all aspects until Vaatu ripped Raava out of Korra.

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** Actually, it ''does'' come down to Ravva Raava and Vaatu's strength. Unalaq was only one human, but Vaatu was explicitly the most powerful of the two spirits when he was sealed; there is no indication this (radically) changed before/during the finale. Korra was a human with Raava's considerably-weaker strength, plus all the power and skill of the numerous ''human'' Avatars (Raava being the half-spirit aspect for ''all of them''). The power gap between [[WeakButSkilled Korra+Raava]] and [[StrongButUnskilled Unalaq+Vaatu]] was practically nonexistent in this case, so it makes sense they were even imo, in all aspects until Vaatu ripped Raava out of Korra.


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** And who's to say that after this publicity boost, the Earth Kingdom (and other places) didn't buy the designs of the airships for a lot of money?
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** It's not about Vaatu's strength vs. Raava's. (And neither was Korra exactly decisively winning if you consider how close she came to being crushed in ice). Korra should have had the bending skills, experience and power of all her hundreds of past lives at her disposal and there's no way that Unalaq even with Vaatu's power could have matched that. In the end, the actual fight was more like a "Wan vs Unalaq" (now that would have been a pretty matched fight) and not "Korra vs Unalaq". Logically speaking, had the fight been more like an "Aang vs Ozai" CurbStompBattle, NoHoldsBarredBeatdown, (until a desperate Vaatu somehow found an opening to pull Raava out), it would have been more convincing.

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** It's not about Vaatu's strength vs. Raava's. (And neither was Korra exactly decisively winning if you consider how close she came to being crushed in ice). Korra should have had the bending skills, experience and power of all her hundreds of past lives at her disposal and there's no way that Unalaq even with Vaatu's power could have matched that. In the end, the actual fight was more like a "Wan vs Unalaq" (now that would have been a pretty matched fight) and not "Korra vs Unalaq". Logically speaking, had the fight been more like an "Aang vs Ozai" CurbStompBattle, NoHoldsBarredBeatdown, (until a desperate Vaatu somehow found an opening to pull Raava out), it would have been more convincing.
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** Actually, it ''does'' come down to Ravva and Vaatu's strength. Unalaq was only one human, but Vaatu was explicitly the most powerful of the two spirits when he was sealed; there is no indication this (radically) changed before/during the finale. Korra was a human with Raava's considerably-weaker strength, plus all the power and skill of the numerous ''human'' Avatars (Raava being the half-spirit aspect for ''all of them''). The power gap between [[WeakButSkilled Korra+Raava]] and [[StrongButUnskilled Unalaq+Vaatu]] was practically nonexistent in this case, so it makes sense they were even imo, in all aspects until Vaatu ripped Raava out of Korra.
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*** The big reason the company was flopping was that "Future industries supports Equalists" hit their reputation ''hard''. Having the new CEO basically be a superhero without powers really gives the PR department alot of material.
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* At the next Harmonic Convergence, Vaatu will be reborn out of Raava -- just like how Raava was reborn out of Unavaatu in this one. Killing one of these spirits is only temporary, but if killed, they will stay dead until the next Harmonic Convergence. So the descendants of Korra's generation have ten thousand more years to spare.
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* In "Light in the Dark", Korra manages to defeat [[FusionDance Unavaatu]] by using the spirit control technique Unalaq showed her to destroy Vaatu. However, in Beginnings, Raava said the the two great spirits co-exist and if one of them gets destroyed, he or she will be reborn inside the other. So, eventually, some Avatar, maybe even Korra, will bring Vaatu back to life. But what does that mean? Will that Avatar be evil? Will all the Avatars until Vaatu's rebirth [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope be more likely to do evil]]?

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* In "Light in the Dark", Korra manages to defeat [[FusionDance Unavaatu]] by using the spirit control technique Unalaq showed her to destroy Vaatu. However, in Beginnings, "Beginnings", Raava said the the two great spirits co-exist and if one of them gets destroyed, he or she will be reborn inside the other. So, eventually, some Avatar, maybe even Korra, will bring Vaatu back to life. But what does that mean? Will that Avatar [[HeWhoFightsMonsters be evil? evil]]? Will all the Avatars until Vaatu's rebirth [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope [[SlowlySlippingIntoEvil be more likely to do evil]]?commit evil acts]]?

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[[folder: What does the death of Vaatu mean for the Avatar?]]
* In "Light in the Dark", Korra manages to defeat [[FusionDance Unavaatu]] by using the spirit control technique Unalaq showed her to destroy Vaatu. However, in Beginnings, Raava said the the two great spirits co-exist and if one of them gets destroyed, he or she will be reborn inside the other. So, eventually, some Avatar, maybe even Korra, will bring Vaatu back to life. But what does that mean? Will that Avatar be evil? Will all the Avatars until Vaatu's rebirth [[JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope be more likely to do evil]]?
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[[folder: What does the death of Vaatu mean for the Avatar?]]
* In "Light in the Dark", Korra manages to defeat [[FusionDance Unavaatu]] by using the spirit control technique Unalaq showed her to destroy Vaatu. However, in Beginnings, Raava said the the two great spirits co-exist and if one of them gets destroyed, he or she will be reborn inside the other. So, eventually, some Avatar, maybe even Korra, will bring Vaatu back to life. But what does that mean? Will that Avatar be evil? Will all the Avatars until Vaatu's rebirth be more likely to do evil?
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[[folder: What does the death of Vaatu mean for the Avatar?]]
* In "Light in the Dark", Korra manages to defeat [[FusionDance Unavaatu]] by using the spirit control technique Unalaq showed her to destroy Vaatu. However, in Beginnings, Raava said the the two great spirits co-exist and if one of them gets destroyed, he or she will be reborn inside the other. So, eventually, some Avatar, maybe even Korra, will bring Vaatu back to life. But what does that mean? Will that Avatar be evil? Will all the Avatars until Vaatu's rebirth be more likely to do evil?
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* In "Light in the Dark", Korra manages to defeat [[FusionDance Unavaatu]] by using the spirit control technique Unalaq showed her to destroy Vaatu. However, in Beginnings, Raava said the the two great spirits co-exist and if one of them gets destroyed, he or she will be reborn inside the other. So, eventually, some Avatar, maybe even Korra, will bring Vaatu back to life. But what does that mean? Will that Avatar be evil? Will all the Avatars until Vaatu's rebirth be more prone to do evil?

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* In "Light in the Dark", Korra manages to defeat [[FusionDance Unavaatu]] by using the spirit control technique Unalaq showed her to destroy Vaatu. However, in Beginnings, Raava said the the two great spirits co-exist and if one of them gets destroyed, he or she will be reborn inside the other. So, eventually, some Avatar, maybe even Korra, will bring Vaatu back to life. But what does that mean? Will that Avatar be evil? Will all the Avatars until Vaatu's rebirth be more prone likely to do evil?
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** Imagine the headlines: "Asami Sato fought in the front lines with Avatar Korra and stopped an EldritchAbomination that wanted to destroy the world". You can't get better publicity than that. Business is probably booming for her.


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* In "Light in the Dark", Korra manages to defeat [[FusionDance Unavaatu]] by using the spirit control technique Unalaq showed her to destroy Vaatu. However, in Beginnings, Raava said the the two great spirits co-exist and if one of them gets destroyed, he or she will be reborn inside the other. So, eventually, some Avatar, maybe even Korra, will bring Vaatu back to life. But what does that mean? Will that Avatar be evil? Will all the Avatars until Vaatu's rebirth be more prone to do evil?
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** The "Cycle of the Avatar" is about reincarnation, a religious belief in many civilizations and, although details vary, the main concept is the same: a spirit (or soul) begins a new life in a new body after death. The memories of the previous life [[BrainBleach are all erased]], allowing the spirit to start over in a neutral state, neither good nor bad. Spirits linked woth strong bonds in one lifetime may be drawn together in another. The reason that the Avatar is able to remember all past lives is revealed to be Raava. Wan was a human, so the aforementioned rules apply to him. However, he fused his spirit/soul with Raava, the spirit of light. Raava does not get reincarnated every time the Avatar dies; instead, she follows the soul to the new body. When the new Avatar achieves a connection with her, either through meditation or by entering the [[SuperMode Avatar state]], she gives him/her the memories of his/her past lives. However, in the fight with Unavaatu, she died and was born again. Only time (and the writers) will tell if there is a way to restore her memories.
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** Given her company was bought up prior by Varrick, it seems probable she made off with a lot of Varrick's assets when he went to jail.

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