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** Also, we know that he knows a spell to suppress his hexing aura (he uses it at the beginning of Blood Rites), or he could simply draw a circle around himself to keep in the loose magic.
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** They could simply protect their money the same way that wealthy non-wizards do it: By incorporating. So, for instance, Gatekeeper Inc. might exist, with its sole shareholder being Rashid - the bank account itself would be under the Gatekeeper Inc. name, and as long as his signature matches the one the bank has on file as someone authorized to draw from the account, nobody's going to go out of their way to look for irregularities.
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** In ''Skin Game'', Harry started using logical and mathematical exercises to fight down the mantle'd effect. Perhaps the nature of the mantle encourages the knight to compensate for the mantle's effects by becoming coldly rational and logical?

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** In ''Skin Game'', Harry started using logical and mathematical exercises to fight down the mantle'd mantle's effect. Perhaps the nature of the mantle encourages the knight to compensate for the mantle's effects by becoming coldly rational and logical?
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** In ''Skin Game'', Harry started using logic and mathematical practices to fight down the mantle. Perhaps the nature of the mantle encourages the knight to compensate for the mantle's effects by becoming coldly rational and logical?

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** In ''Skin Game'', Harry started using logic logical and mathematical practices exercises to fight down the mantle.mantle'd effect. Perhaps the nature of the mantle encourages the knight to compensate for the mantle's effects by becoming coldly rational and logical?
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** In ''Skin Game'', Harry started using logic and mathematical practices to fight down the mantle. Perhaps the nature of the mantle encourages the knight to compensate for the mantle's effects by becoming coldly rational and logical?
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** If nothing else, it's a sure bet that Gard would've paid Harry a visit and ''demanded'' he hand the box over as soon as she had some time away from Marcone's side. It's her job to keep the crime lord safe, after all, and Gard is nothing if not 100% professional, whether as a bodyguard protecting her client's interests or a battle-howling valkyrie slicing up grendelkin with a grin on her face.
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*** Not really, because it's all but stated in the book that Mab and Marcone arranged to have information about the gates given to Nicodemus recently, specifically to draw him into breaking in.
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*** You seem to be taking the story a bit personally ("do you really expect me to believe...") (and I'm not at all sure the author reads this forum?) Anycase: of course the claims are consistent, if true, but it's not clear (I'll have to read the story myself; I intend to) that Harry verifies for himself that _all_ the claims (including the length of relationship) are true. Still, there's no actual contradiction (or even improbability, depending on time, place, culture, ...- the cultural context in which her not being a virgin would be more likely is a relatively recent thing).

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** [[SharpDressedMan Wearing a turtleneck would ruin the lines of his suit.]] As for using heavier weapons against the Knights - why bother? When he first appears, there's only ever been two Knights who faced him and lived, and he kills one of them by the end of that book. [[spoiler: And assuming that the other was Michael, the other has been neutralized a few books later, although as of Skin Game there's two again, Sanya and Butters having at least faced him and survived.]] Plus, as the Denarians grow stronger from fear, making the Knights ''fear'' him before they die probably gives him a rush, along with stroking his ego.



** Plus, it's ''[[HollywoodDateless Harry]]''.



** I think that the reason that the novels are so ambivalent about the so affair is that they are told from Harry's perspective, and Harry himself gradually begins to realize the enormity of his decision. Harry has always been a very short-sighted person, who is focused on the here and now. Harry himself never really fought on the front-lines of the war, with the exception of the debacle at Chichen Itza. From what I can tell, the whole war was a disaster for both the Red Court and the White Council. The Red Court suffered ''massive'' internal civil strife that crippled their ability to focus their resources, no doubt excacerbated by an influence from the Nemesis contagion. The White Council lost most of their experienced soldiers, and sheer strategic and logistical nightmare that comes from all-out warfare caught the wizards off guard. Being organized like an academic learned society, constantly crippled by internal politics, and spread out among cities all around the world, they had great difficulty focusing their efforts. All accounts indicate that they could not maintain a long-term war, since producing vampires is a lot easier than recruiting wizards. Of course, even with all of these advantages, the Red Court was wiped out. They were wiped out due to their ''gross'' incompetence. Unfortunately, we don't see a full account of the outcome or the casualties of the war, since it doesn't matter to Dresden. He's very much a guy who is focused on the people close to him or the one's he can see. People who die half-way around the world just won't have the emotional impact for him.

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** I think that the reason that the novels are so ambivalent about the so affair is that they are told from Harry's perspective, and Harry himself gradually begins to realize the enormity of his decision. Harry has always been a very short-sighted person, who is focused on the here and now. Harry himself never really fought on the front-lines of the war, with the exception of the debacle at Chichen Itza. From what I can tell, the whole war was a disaster for both the Red Court and the White Council. The Red Court suffered ''massive'' internal civil strife that crippled their ability to focus their resources, no doubt excacerbated exacerbated by an influence from the Nemesis contagion. The White Council lost most of their experienced soldiers, and sheer strategic and logistical nightmare that comes from all-out warfare caught the wizards off guard. Being organized like an academic learned society, constantly crippled by internal politics, and spread out among cities all around the world, they had great difficulty focusing their efforts. All accounts indicate that they could not maintain a long-term war, since producing vampires is a lot easier than recruiting wizards. Of course, even with all of these advantages, the Red Court was wiped out. They were wiped out due to their ''gross'' incompetence. Unfortunately, we don't see a full account of the outcome or the casualties of the war, since it doesn't matter to Dresden. He's very much a guy who is focused on the people close to him or the one's he can see. People who die half-way around the world just won't have the emotional impact for him.



*** Santa Claus. Jolly old man. Gift giver. ''Horrible'' businessman.



** It's also implied that Butters needed to take up the Sword of his own free will, and he just wasn't ready. Or, perhaps, it wasn't until that point that we had a Butters who could be a Knight and not get killed almost immediately.



* In ''Changes'', the bloodline curse is stated to work by killing the original target and all their siblings, then killing the original target's parents and all ''their'' siblings, then the original target's parent's parents and all ''their'' sibilings, and so on. It can jump over missing links in the chain (using it on Maggie would have hit Ebenezar, even though Margaret LeFay is dead), but it only goes up or sideways, never back down. Given that, how did it hit ''every'' Red Court vampire? Logically, it should have hit Susan (the original target), all the vampires Bianca sired (Susan's "siblings"), Bianca and every other vampire Arianna sired (Bianca as Susan's "parent", and all Bianca's "siblings"), Arianna and every other vampire the Red King sired (Arianna as Bianca's "parent", and all Arianna's "siblings"), and finally the Red King himself (Arianna's "parent", almost certainly has no "siblings"). That would have gutted the Red Court (since the Red King sired the Lords Of Outer Night and a sizable chunk of the rest of the Red Court nobility), but it shouldn't have hit ''every'' vampire.

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* In ''Changes'', the bloodline curse is stated to work by killing the original target and all their siblings, then killing the original target's parents and all ''their'' siblings, then the original target's parent's parents and all ''their'' sibilings, siblings, and so on. It can jump over missing links in the chain (using it on Maggie would have hit Ebenezar, even though Margaret LeFay is dead), but it only goes up or sideways, never back down. Given that, how did it hit ''every'' Red Court vampire? Logically, it should have hit Susan (the original target), all the vampires Bianca sired (Susan's "siblings"), Bianca and every other vampire Arianna sired (Bianca as Susan's "parent", and all Bianca's "siblings"), Arianna and every other vampire the Red King sired (Arianna as Bianca's "parent", and all Arianna's "siblings"), and finally the Red King himself (Arianna's "parent", almost certainly has no "siblings"). That would have gutted the Red Court (since the Red King sired the Lords Of Outer Night and a sizable chunk of the rest of the Red Court nobility), but it shouldn't have hit ''every'' vampire.
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*** Except it's reasonable to assume that Nicodemus has had this plan in mind for quite a while. Long enough, if ''all'' it required was the blood of a relative, to father a child ''specifically'' so he can sacrifice it to the Gate and not have to kill Deirdre, in whom he's invested so many centuries' training and trust.
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*** FridgeBrilliance: It wasn't a lie for Mab to say that she ''could'' change him, it was a lie to say that she could change him ''as she wishes''. Because changing him in some ways will affect him in others, no matter how subtly she tries to re-make him. Mab's never going to get the kind of Winter Knight she needs by messing with Harry's head or nature, only by him agreeing to ''be'' that Knight.
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** Harry knows where Marcone lives and where many of his businesses are located, and he also knows that Gard's services are contracted through Monoc Securities. He may not realize that Monoc is ''Odin's'' front company yet, but he certainly has several avenues by which to return the box of samples to Gard, with or without letting Marcone know she shared its contents with Harry.
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** JB once said that he could never write a story from Mouse's POV because Mouse knows everything that's going on and would spoil the series plot. This implies that Mouse is very thoroughly briefed on the state of the Dresdenverse and the threats that Harry is facing, which implies that Harry is an assignment and not a random encounter. Either that, or Mouse has intellectus, which means that he's even more than what Harry and Ancient Mai believe him to be.
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** Also, his Hunger was the most powerful of them all, so it had a larger reserve capacity and probably the ability to do more with less. A lesser incubus wouldn't have been able to hold out for as long.

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** As noted above, it should probably be noted that in both cases, it may not count as lying for the simple fact that no one believes it to be the truth-Molly doesn't take Lea's snark to be truthful, and Harry understands Mab's fable as being just that.



* In ''Death Masks'', it's revelaed that the Fellowship of St. Giles developed tattoos that, when placed on someone infected by the Red Court but who has not yet turned into a Red Court Vampire, helped the infectee avoid becoming a vampire by glowing or turning red in order to worn the infectee that the "curse" was starting to influence their behavior. I'm wondering, could something be similar be done for Harry and Molly?

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* In ''Death Masks'', it's revelaed revealed that the Fellowship of St. Giles developed tattoos that, when placed on someone infected by the Red Court but who has not yet turned into a Red Court Vampire, helped the infectee avoid becoming a vampire by glowing or turning red in order to worn the infectee that the "curse" was starting to influence their behavior. I'm wondering, could something be similar be done for Harry and Molly?
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** I have always believed the allergy of the Fae to cold iron has to do with the fact that it represents the working of technology over nature. If it makes any sense; it's a symbolic representation of the idea that man began leaving the "Wyld" behind once he began smelting iron, even more than copper and bronze. Iron led to steel, so it represents the biggest shift from blood and bone to technological progress. YMMV, of course.
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*** There's also the fact that, while analogous creatures exist throughout all cultures, the fey as they've appeared in the series have all been based on European mythology (or at least, I can't think of any that weren't). Europe is a place where seasons are usually pretty well differentiated into summer and winter, and there's a lot of lore from European paganism that's tied to the turning of the seasons (think ''Literature/{{Wintersmith}}''). I assume that's what Jim was thinking when he wrote the stuff.
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*** I'm fairly certain that at some point Thomas' sister notes that she had originally believed Harry and Thomas were together so much because they ''were'' lovers (at least inasfar as White Court vamps have lovers usually), so yes Thomas is probably bi with a heavy preference. His father may have been the same way (just, y'know, completely fucking evil).
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** Judging from what we saw of the Loup-Garou, it would probably be severely hurt and PO'd, but wouldn't actually die.
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** ''Mortal technology is also capable of harming some of the larger threats..., all of these are modern-day weapons capable of threatening many immortals.'' I would hardly consider a nuke that much of a step-up. If the Nagooshi is in a city you lose the city. Given how wizard magic messes with tech it seems if you throw enough magic at tech it goes haywire so all of the advanced mortal weapons would be made useless. A handgun only killed Maeve because she was mortal at the time and all but admitted she had a death wish. Nuke Mab, she reforms later and curses the Earth with endless winter. Invade the NeverNever? You are assuming human technology will work deep within it. It was all but said the Outer Gates exist in part of the NeverNever that are normally impossible to get to or for mortals to survive in. The rules of physics that make mortal technology work can be changed in the NeveNever. And magic is strongest there so some nigh-omnipotent can strike at Earth all they want and nothing can be done about it if said entity is pissed off. At worse, you risk starting a war where all the other major powerhouses decided to destroy humanity on principle.

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** ''Mortal technology is also capable of harming some of the larger threats..., all of these are modern-day weapons capable of threatening many immortals.'' I would hardly consider a nuke that much of a step-up. If the Nagooshi is in a city you lose the city. Given how wizard magic messes with tech it seems if you throw enough magic at tech it goes haywire so all of the advanced mortal weapons would be made useless. A handgun only killed Maeve because she was mortal at the time and all but admitted she had a death wish. Nuke Mab, she reforms later and curses the Earth with endless winter. Invade the NeverNever? Nevernever? You are assuming human technology will work deep within it. It was all but said the Outer Gates exist in part of the NeverNever Nevernever that are normally impossible to get to or for mortals to survive in. The rules of physics that make mortal technology work can be changed in the NeveNever. And magic is strongest there so some nigh-omnipotent can strike at Earth all they want and nothing can be done about it if said entity is pissed off. At worse, you risk starting a war where all the other major powerhouses decided to destroy humanity on principle.
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The bloodline curse kills all the ancestors of the person killed, wiping out most of the red court. However, it doesn't kill the *decedents*. The book strongly implies that the reason harry had to sacrifice Susan instead of any other random vampire was because she just turned and so killing her would kill the rest, while sacrificing another vampire turned previously wouldn't kill anyone turned after that vampire was turned. However, it takes Harry a little bit of time to get around to sacrificing Susan. It may not seem like long, but when you consider all the vampires in the entire world there is a very real chance that at least one of them happen to turn a vampire between the time that Susan was turned and when harry sacrificed her. After all 4.5 humans are born every second, while vampires aren't 'born' that fast they seem to be a decent percentage of the world (being far more common in places third world nations), and in the minute or longer it took Harry to kill Susan another vampire could have been sired. One lone one, but free to turn everyone it meets. It could be many years, decades even, before one surviving vampire can turn enough to create a real powerbase, but Wizards last a long time too. Maybe 40 years from now someone will come to have a talk with harry about wiping out all of his kind.
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** I would say that both the "skeptic / perception filter radiation" and the "masquerade spell" are interesting hypotheses. Sadly, as far as I can tell, there has been no direct evidence from the books to support either. Maybe future books will lend evidence.
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[[folder: Are the red court actually defeated?]]
The bloodline curse kills all the ancestors of the person killed, wiping out most of the red court. However, it doesn't kill the *decedents*. The book strongly implies that the reason harry had to sacrifice Susan instead of any other random vampire was because she just turned and so killing her would kill the rest, while sacrificing another vampire turned previously wouldn't kill anyone turned after that vampire was turned. However, it takes Harry a little bit of time to get around to sacrificing Susan. It may not seem like long, but when you consider all the vampires in the entire world there is a very real chance that at least one of them happen to turn a vampire between the time that Susan was turned and when harry sacrificed her. After all 4.5 humans are born every second, while vampires aren't 'born' that fast they seem to be a decent percentage of the world (being far more common in places third world nations), and in the minute or longer it took Harry to kill Susan another vampire could have been sired. One lone one, but free to turn everyone it meets. It could be many years, decades even, before one surviving vampire can turn enough to create a real powerbase, but Wizards last a long time too. Maybe 40 years from now someone will come to have a talk with harry about wiping out all of his kind.
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** Harry (born circa 1974) [[PubertySuperpower came to his powers in his teens]] and was able to watch TV without issue until then, which also explains why many of his pop culture references are so outdated. WordOfGod says that he also frequents [[DriveInTheater drive-in theaters]] while staying as far as he possibly can for the equipment and sometimes he sits on a bench near stores with a large TV at the shop window. His ability to [[SuperSenses Listen]] certainly helps him in both cases.

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** Harry (born circa 1974) [[PubertySuperpower came to his powers in his teens]] and was able to watch TV without issue until then, which also explains why many of his pop culture references are so outdated. WordOfGod says that he also frequents [[DriveInTheater drive-in theaters]] while staying as far as he possibly can for from the equipment and sometimes he sits on a bench near stores with a large TV at the shop window. His ability to [[SuperSenses Listen]] certainly helps him in both cases.
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** Harry (born circa 1974) [[PubertySuperpower came to his powers in his teens]] and was able to watch TV without issue until then, which also explains why many of his pop culture references are so outdated. WordOfGod says that he also frequents [[DriveInTheater drive-in theaters]] while staying as far as he possibly can for the equipment and sometimes he sits on a bench near stores with a large TV at the shop window. His ability to [[SuperSenses Listen]] certainly helps him in both cases.
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* Harry is always making pop culture references, including quotes from all kinds of movies and TV shows. But if technology always malfunctions around him, how does he watch all that TV? With a 19th-century projector?
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** The above is TruthInTelevision; as anyone trained in martial arts (like, say, Jim Butcher) could tell you, parrying a punch is often a better idea than blocking it outright because it requires much less energy. And Harry is, after all, [[StrongButUnskilled pretty strong magically, even if he's not as skillful as he will be in later books.]]
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\n** Can also be TruthInTelevision here. Even and especially for people who are into lots of fandoms, there are occasions where you just forget about a certain reference because you have a gazillion other things on your mind and haven't thought about that specific thing for a while.
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** The portal was made by a god. That's why.
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** Additionally, please note that Harry deflects the spell rather than straight-up blocks it or, as with Lily, faces it head-on, which takes a lot less energy to do. It's like the difference between stopping an incoming asteroid dead in its tracks and nudging it just a bit so that it flies past Earth; both ultimately have the same result (not getting killed by a giant freaking chunk of rock moving at several kilometers a second) but take different amounts of energy to accomplish.

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