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* This stand point is, astonishingly, never even mentioned in the whole movie. Senator Dreyfus, in what little screen time he has, keeps blabbering about the "human factor" and whatnot, to oppose mechanized crime control. OmniCorp surely can't have their products turned against them, can they?

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* OmniCorp surely can't have their products turned against them and those who they do business with (e.g criminals, politicians), can they? Robocop's "Priority" on solving cases is a subtle example; its true purpose is to keep him away from cases that might damage OmniCorp's interests. This stand point is, astonishingly, never even mentioned in the whole movie. Senator Dreyfus, in what little screen time he has, has to oppose mechanized crime control, keeps blabbering about the "human factor" and whatnot, to oppose mechanized crime control. OmniCorp surely can't have their products turned against them, can they?while ignoring this obvious flaw.

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[[folder: Why keep the hand?]]
* Sure it's a slight nod to the original, but keeping Murphy's right hand serves no practical purpose (yes, it literally didn't do anything the left, mechanical hand couldn't). That hand still needs nutrition to keep from being necrotized, and is vulnerable as hell. Taking a shot there means an useless stump, every punch risks breaking it, and trying too hard to grab something might yank it clean off the arm.
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** Earlier in the movie, Murphy overrode his priorities and investigated his own murder case. It might be possible that by threatening his wife and son, Sellars [[NiceJobFixingItVillain gave him enough resolve]] to to override the 'do not shoot' command, while he couldn't do so earlier even to save his own life.

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** Earlier in the movie, Murphy overrode his priorities and investigated his own murder case. It might be possible that by threatening to kill his wife and son, Sellars [[NiceJobFixingItVillain gave him enough resolve]] to to override the 'do 'Do not shoot' command, shoot the red-tagged ones' directive, while he couldn't do so earlier even to save his own life.


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* This stand point is, astonishingly, never even mentioned in the whole movie. Senator Dreyfus, in what little screen time he has, keeps blabbering about the "human factor" and whatnot, to oppose mechanized crime control. OmniCorp surely can't have their products turned against them, can they?

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[[folder:Why is Robocop better than the "old" drones?]]
* It's established in the movie that whenever Robo's visor is down for combat situations, the software takes over and Murphy's brain has no actual input on what's going on. In that case, why was Robocop so much better while fighting the Omnicorp drones? Under such conditions, He would be operating as he was yet another drone.

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* It's established in the movie that whenever Robo's visor is down for combat situations, the software takes over and Murphy's brain has no actual input on what's going on. In that case, why was Robocop so much better while fighting the Omnicorp drones? Under such conditions, He would be operating as he was yet another drone.robot.



** Speaking of which, did Murphy become aware at some point of what goes on whenever the visor goes down? or by the end he remains fooled into thinking that he is the one kicking ass?
*** WMG territory here, but I suspect that Murphy 'bled' over into the software a bit, becoming a sort of directive-based overseer to the rest of the software. He both is and isn't kicking ass.



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* Did Murphy become aware at some point of what goes on whenever the visor goes down? or by the end he remains fooled into thinking that he is the one kicking ass?
** Murphy probably 'bled' over into the software a bit, becoming a sort of directive-based overseer to the rest of the software. He both is and isn't kicking ass.
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** [[spoiler: Mattox]] wasn't shot by Murphy. [[spoiler: He was shot by Lewis. Murphy reacted, and shot Lewis, non-lethally.]] Presumably, there is an override allowing for red assets being a danger to other red assets, which his wife and son qualified as, also allowing for [[spoiler: Sellars]] to get shot.
** But his wife and son weren't red assets. Nor was an override ever mentioned.
** Earlier in the movie it's mentioned that Alex is overwriting his priorities. It's not impossible he was able to overwrite the 'do not shoot' command. Lewis was also [[spoiler: shot by Mattox's partner,]] not Murphy.

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** [[spoiler: Mattox]] wasn't shot by Murphy. [[spoiler: He was shot by Lewis. Murphy reacted, and shot Lewis, non-lethally.]] Presumably, there is an override allowing for red assets being a danger to other red assets, which his wife and son qualified as, also allowing for [[spoiler: Sellars]] to get shot.
** But his wife and son weren't red assets. Nor was an override ever mentioned.
** Earlier in the movie it's mentioned movie, Murphy overrode his priorities and investigated his own murder case. It might be possible that Alex is overwriting by threatening his priorities. It's not impossible he was able wife and son, Sellars [[NiceJobFixingItVillain gave him enough resolve]] to overwrite to override the 'do not shoot' command. Lewis was also [[spoiler: shot by Mattox's partner,]] not Murphy.command, while he couldn't do so earlier even to save his own life.
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** Murphy opened the car door himself with the remote on his keychain. You can see him point it at the car and press the button before the door opens.

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** Murphy opened the car door himself with the remote on his keychain. You can see him point it at the car and press the button before the door opens.opens.
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*** Thing is, if they could grow body parts like that, Dr Norton's entire field of research would be pointless, there would be no need to develop better prosthetic limbs if you could simply get a new pair of legs.
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** Presumably the delay was to obfuscate just when the bomb was planted. If it went off at the hospital, the first place anyone would start looking for evidence would be at the hospital--and they'd notice that the cameras went off at a certain time, and then they'd start looking at who was in the area. It's also possible that someone was watching Murphy's place and set it off manually when they saw, possibly through the CCTV cameras, that it was him at the car.

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** Presumably the delay was to obfuscate just when the bomb was planted. If it went off at the hospital, the first place anyone would start looking for evidence would be at the hospital--and they'd notice that the cameras went off at a certain time, and then they'd start looking at who was in the area. It's also possible that someone was watching Murphy's place and set it off manually when they saw, possibly through the CCTV cameras, that it was him at the car.car.
** Murphy opened the car door himself with the remote on his keychain. You can see him point it at the car and press the button before the door opens.
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** In that scene, Norton mentions that the droids would be trying to maneuver Murphy into Maddox's line of fire, so their programming was probably altered to be easier to defeat for the exercise.
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** also kind of WMG but Norton was literally in Murphy's head at the time perhaps he added some additional hardware to Murphy's subconscious to get the software to shave off those few seconds that everyone worried about.
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** A related question came to my mind: If the bomb was supposed to work like that, how would the people planting the bomb know that Murphy's wife wouldn't go check on the car?

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** A related question came to my mind: If the bomb was supposed to work like that, how would the people planting the bomb know that Murphy's wife wouldn't go check on the car?car?
** Presumably the delay was to obfuscate just when the bomb was planted. If it went off at the hospital, the first place anyone would start looking for evidence would be at the hospital--and they'd notice that the cameras went off at a certain time, and then they'd start looking at who was in the area. It's also possible that someone was watching Murphy's place and set it off manually when they saw, possibly through the CCTV cameras, that it was him at the car.
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** It's also possible that they used stem cells to repair the damage that had been done to what was salvaged. Sure, they're capable of all of this advanced surgery and cybernetics. Why not just grow him a new body entirely? I don't imagine growing a new body can be done in a short amount of time(considering that they had a schedule to follow when it came to saving Murphy's life)even with their level of technology, and I don't imagine it would be easy to port an existing brain over to said newly grown body and hooking up the old brain to the new nervous system. It might be easier just to hook up his brain and remaining organs to a cyborg body. Besides, if they had just ported Murphy's brain into a newly grown and highly vulnerable organic body, we wouldn't have Robocop ;)

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** It's also possible that they used stem cells to repair the damage that had been done to what was salvaged. Sure, they're capable of all of this advanced surgery and cybernetics. Why not just grow him a new body entirely? I don't imagine growing a new body can be done in a short amount of time(considering that they had a schedule to follow when it came to saving Murphy's life)even with their level of technology, and I don't imagine it would be easy to port an existing brain over to said newly grown body and hooking up the old brain to the new nervous system. It might be easier just to hook up his brain and remaining organs to a cyborg body. Besides, if they had just ported Murphy's brain into a newly grown and highly vulnerable organic body, we wouldn't have Robocop ;)
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**It's also possible that they used stem cells to repair the damage that had been done to what was salvaged. Sure, they're capable of all of this advanced surgery and cybernetics. Why not just grow him a new body entirely? I don't imagine growing a new body can be done in a short amount of time(considering that they had a schedule to follow when it came to saving Murphy's life)even with their level of technology, and I don't imagine it would be easy to port an existing brain over to said newly grown body and hooking up the old brain to the new nervous system. It might be easier just to hook up his brain and remaining organs to a cyborg body. Besides, if they had just ported Murphy's brain into a newly grown and highly vulnerable organic body, we wouldn't have Robocop ;)
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** Triggering the alarm and at least unlocking the door if not opening it could be done by radio signal. There's already cars around today with enough computer control for that. The rest, I have no idea.

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** Triggering the alarm and at least unlocking the door if not opening it could be done by radio signal. There's already cars around today with enough computer control and remote access for that. The rest, I have no idea.
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* So, that car bomb...it's planted in the hospital, but waits until Murphy's at home to go off. It can also somehow trigger the car alarm despite not being connected to it (it's just a metal box), and is somehow able to open the door when Murphy approaches. If anyone can explain why any of this rigmarole is necessary over "blow up when the engine starts", let me know.

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* So, that car bomb...it's planted in the hospital, but waits until Murphy's at home to go off. It can also somehow trigger the car alarm despite not being connected to it (it's just a metal box), and is somehow able to open the door when Murphy approaches. If anyone can explain why any of this rigmarole is necessary over "blow up when the engine starts", let me know.know.
** Triggering the alarm and at least unlocking the door if not opening it could be done by radio signal. There's already cars around today with enough computer control for that. The rest, I have no idea.
** A related question came to my mind: If the bomb was supposed to work like that, how would the people planting the bomb know that Murphy's wife wouldn't go check on the car?
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** They also don't have access to the processing power needed to sort and cross-reference all that data. The police would have whatever government funding could get for them, and whatever that is is probably long since obsolete. Robocop has the bleeding edge technology from OmniCorp. It's almost literally the difference between your couple years old desktop versus a supercomputer.

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** They also don't have access to the processing power needed to sort and cross-reference all that data. The police would have whatever government funding could get for them, and whatever that is is probably long since obsolete. Robocop has the bleeding edge technology from OmniCorp. It's almost literally the difference between your couple years old desktop versus a supercomputer.supercomputer.

* So, that car bomb...it's planted in the hospital, but waits until Murphy's at home to go off. It can also somehow trigger the car alarm despite not being connected to it (it's just a metal box), and is somehow able to open the door when Murphy approaches. If anyone can explain why any of this rigmarole is necessary over "blow up when the engine starts", let me know.
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** Lack of manpower/corruption

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** Lack of manpower/corruptionmanpower/corruption. Don't forget, the Chief of Police [[spoiler: is also a CorruptCop.]]
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** Lack of manpower/corruption

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** Lack of manpower/corruptionmanpower/corruption
** They also don't have access to the processing power needed to sort and cross-reference all that data. The police would have whatever government funding could get for them, and whatever that is is probably long since obsolete. Robocop has the bleeding edge technology from OmniCorp. It's almost literally the difference between your couple years old desktop versus a supercomputer.
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** Earlier in the movie it's mentioned that Alex is overwriting his priorities. It's not impossible he was able to overwrite the 'do not shoot' command.

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** Earlier in the movie it's mentioned that Alex is overwriting his priorities. It's not impossible he was able to overwrite the 'do not shoot' command.
command. Lewis was also [[spoiler: shot by Mattox's partner,]] not Murphy.
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* Is there any reason the regular, non-cyborg cops couldn't use the massive video database that would allow them to solve practically any crime in Detroit?

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* Is there any reason the regular, non-cyborg cops couldn't use the massive video database that would allow them to solve practically any crime in Detroit?Detroit?
** Lack of manpower/corruption
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** Perhaps they took a skin grafts from the rest of his undamaged body. There was a lot of surgery after all.

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** Perhaps they took a skin grafts from the rest of his undamaged body. There was a lot of surgery after all.all.

* Is there any reason the regular, non-cyborg cops couldn't use the massive video database that would allow them to solve practically any crime in Detroit?
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** Earlier in the movie it's mentioned that Alex is overwriting his priorities. It's not impossible he was able to overwrite the 'do not shoot' command.
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** But his wife and son weren't red assets. Nor was an override ever mentioned.
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* Alex Murphy took a bomb to the face. When he is lying on the hospital bed, you can see that the burns extend to his face. Why is there not the slightest hint of scarring anywhere once he's in the Robocop outfit?

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* Alex Murphy took a bomb to the face. When he is lying on the hospital bed, you can see that the burns extend to his face. Why is there not the slightest hint of scarring anywhere once he's in the Robocop outfit?outfit?
** Perhaps they took a skin grafts from the rest of his undamaged body. There was a lot of surgery after all.
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** [[spoiler: Mattox]] wasn't shot by Murphy. [[spoiler: He was shot by Lewis. Murphy reacted, and shot Lewis, non-lethally.]] Presumably, there is an override allowing for red assets being a danger to other red assets, which his wife and son qualified as, also allowing for [[spoiler: Sellars]] to get shot.

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** [[spoiler: Mattox]] wasn't shot by Murphy. [[spoiler: He was shot by Lewis. Murphy reacted, and shot Lewis, non-lethally.]] Presumably, there is an override allowing for red assets being a danger to other red assets, which his wife and son qualified as, also allowing for [[spoiler: Sellars]] to get shot.shot.

* Alex Murphy took a bomb to the face. When he is lying on the hospital bed, you can see that the burns extend to his face. Why is there not the slightest hint of scarring anywhere once he's in the Robocop outfit?
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*** WMG territory here, but I suspect that Murphy 'bled' over into the software a bit, becoming a sort of directive-based overseer to the rest of the software. He both is and isn't kicking ass.
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** Speaking of which, did Murphy become aware at some point of what goes on whenever the visor goes down? or by the end he remains fooled into thinking that he is the one kicking ass?
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* How was Murphy able to [[spoiler:shoot Sellars]] when he was 'redtagged' and moments earlier was unable to [[spoiler: shoot Mattox]]?

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* How was Murphy able to [[spoiler:shoot Sellars]] when he was 'redtagged' and moments earlier was unable to [[spoiler: shoot Mattox]]?Mattox]]?
**[[spoiler: Mattox]] wasn't shot by Murphy. [[spoiler: He was shot by Lewis. Murphy reacted, and shot Lewis, non-lethally.]] Presumably, there is an override allowing for red assets being a danger to other red assets, which his wife and son qualified as, also allowing for [[spoiler: Sellars]] to get shot.
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* It's established in the movie that whenever Robo's visor is down for combat situations, the software takes over and Murphy's brain has no actual input on what's going on. In that case, why was Robocop so much better while fighting the Omnicorp drones? Under such conditions, He would be operating as he was yet another drone.

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* It's established in the movie that whenever Robo's visor is down for combat situations, the software takes over and Murphy's brain has no actual input on what's going on. In that case, why was Robocop so much better while fighting the Omnicorp drones? Under such conditions, He would be operating as he was yet another drone.drone.
** Norton mentions during the final test that Robocop's combat programming was more advanced and faster-operating than the EM-208's.

* How was Murphy able to [[spoiler:shoot Sellars]] when he was 'redtagged' and moments earlier was unable to [[spoiler: shoot Mattox]]?
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