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*** Jack's been playing by his own rules for the last 300 years and naturally isn't fond of the idea of suddenly being bound up by rules and responsibilities. He also probably feels some misguided resentment towards the other Guardians since he knows they are able to communicate with the Man in the Moon who has steadfastly been ignoring Jack all this time. He seems to have basically lumped them all together as a "hero brigade" of sorts that he feels a level of condescension towards because he thinks of them as a bunch of stuffy goody-two-shoes.
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* Why does the Moon, or the Man on the Moon, care about the Happiness and wellbeing of Human Children?
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** As for Easter Bunny from Australia - [[WildMassGuessing Bunnymund was originally an ordinary rabbit]] who survived the rabbit extermination emerged in a new world, and became the first of its kind to truly feel hope and understand new beginnings. [[GreenLantern He is thus transformed, elevated above the others]]. Hope is born. And thus '''[[MundaneMadeAwesome Easter Bunny]]'''.

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** As for Easter Bunny from Australia - [[WildMassGuessing Bunnymund was originally an ordinary rabbit]] who survived the rabbit extermination emerged in a new world, and became the first of its kind to truly feel hope and understand new beginnings. [[GreenLantern [[ComicBook/GreenLantern He is thus transformed, elevated above the others]]. Hope is born. And thus '''[[MundaneMadeAwesome Easter Bunny]]'''.
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*** Actually, it’s implied that Jack is so powerful because even though his character is dismissed as “just an expression”, his center is something that children never really stop believing in. It’s possible to lose your sense of wonder and hope at times, but just having fun is as natural as breathing to a child.


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** I would assume that the Guardians have some innate magic that tricks adults into accepting the things they do as normal — when their child finds a quarter under their pillow or they wake up to a huge pile of presents under their Christmas tree, their minds are melted into thinking that they or their spouse was responsible.
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*** I think it may just be because he was voiced by Hugh Jackman, who is Australian.


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*** Pitch was indeed a good person before becoming the Boogeyman. He used live during the Golden Age as a man named Kozmotis Pitchiner. He was the general of the army that fought creatures called Dream Pirates and Fearlings. When the Fearlings were captured, they were locked in a prison that had to be guarded constantly. Kozmotis was the one to guard it. Background: Kozmotis had a daughter called Emily-Jane and whilst guarding the prison, he kept a locket of her to stop him from falling for the Fearlings bribery and threats. The Fearlings managed to see the image one day and somehow managed to mimic Emily-Jane’s voice. Kozmotis had been in the prison for a long time so it was easy to trick him. The Fearlings pretended to be Emily calling out for her father to get her out of the prison. To convince him, the Fearlings made a shadow which looked like a little girl. Kozmotis opened the prison, expecting to find his daughter but was possessed by the Fearlings who turned him into Pitch Black.


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*** She protects the innocence of children through their memories and Sandy protects their creativity.
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*** There is a Rise of the Guardian app which states “Jack likes the beach - but only to have fun freezing waves.” This probably means he can go to warmer climates. And whilst he specialises in snow based fun (y’know, considering he’s a Winter Spirit) we see in the flashback of Jack’s human life that he can entertain kids with other things, e.g. stories.
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** There are several reasons, actually. 1) Jack Frost is the Guardian of Fun, not the Guardian of Responsibility. 2) He has had conflict with Bunnymund in the past, and only seems to truly respect Sandman. 3) He is upset at the Man in the Moon on account of being ignored for 300 years. It was basically a "Get in the robot" moment.
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* One thing I've ''never'' understood about this movie is why Jack is so dead-set against being a Guardian. I can see how being "cooped up in a hideout thinking up new ways to bribe kids" (roughly paraphrased) would clash with his personality, but Sandy plainly doesn't spend his time hidden away somewhere - he's out there every night just giving sweet dreams to children, not "bribing" them with money or presents or eggs. And Jack knows this. So why does he act like the roles North, Bunny and Tooth have are all there is to being a Guardian?
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* Jack bringing that bunny to life from the window frost seemed to come out of nowhere a little bit, and it seemed like seeing it was all it took for Jamie to believe in him. Which makes sense - a mystical frost-bunny leaping out of your windowpane and hopping around the room before bursting into a shower of snowflakes is a lot more mystical and awe-inspiring than, say, blizzards and snowball fights. But how did Jack know (or why did he think) he could do something like that, and why hasn't he ever tried it before?
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** It's subtly implied that "belief" in a Guardian constitutes believing in their ''center'' more than actually thinking they're real, or celebrating their holiday. We aren't meant to take it that children across the globe stopped believing in Santa and the Easter Bunny just because they've stopped having dreams - it's rather that they've lost their senses of wonder and hope, which is what North and Bunny are all about.

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** It's subtly implied that "belief" in a Guardian constitutes believing in their ''center'' more than actually thinking they're real, or celebrating their holiday. We aren't meant to take it that children across the globe stopped believing in Santa and the Easter Bunny just because they've stopped having dreams - it's rather that they've lost their senses of wonder and hope, which is what North and Bunny are all about. Children who don't believe in Santa himself may not be able to see North, but as long as they have some sense of wonder in them, they're still considered a believer. (This also explains how Jack is still powerful despite no one believing in him - they dismiss the ''character'' of Jack Frost as "just an expression," but their fun and enjoyment still gives him strength.)
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** It's subtly implied that "belief" in a Guardian constitutes believing in their ''center'' more than actually thinking they're real, or celebrating their holiday. We aren't meant to take it that children across the globe stopped believing in Santa and the Easter Bunny just because they've stopped having dreams - it's rather that they've lost their senses of wonder and hope, which is what North and Bunny are all about.
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** I see...I kind of figured that, to be honest. In that case, though, I think Bunny's center might be even more applicable to the Southern Hemisphere. He says that Easter is about new beginnings and hope, which to me would be more important during autumn, when everything tends to be withering and dying out - a celebration of hope reminds you that things will be better once the cold season is over. Whereas celebrating it when I do up here means that there's very little "hope" involved, since all that new life we're "hoping" for is already kind of here.

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** *** I see...I kind of figured that, to be honest. In that case, though, I think Bunny's center might be even more applicable to the Southern Hemisphere. He says that Easter is about new beginnings and hope, which to me would be more important during autumn, when everything tends to be withering and dying out - a celebration of hope reminds you that things will be better once the cold season is over. Whereas celebrating it when I do up here means that there's very little "hope" involved, since all that new life we're "hoping" for is already kind of here. (The "springtime" line is still a little insensitive even by this logic, but remember that "springtime" isn't what his center is. What he's really concerned with protecting is hope.)
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** I see...I kind of figured that, to be honest. In that case, though, I think Bunny's center might be even more applicable to the Southern Hemisphere. He says that Easter is about new beginnings and hope, which to me would be more important during autumn, when everything tends to be withering and dying out - a celebration of hope reminds you that things will be better once the cold season is over. Whereas celebrating it when I do up here means that there's very little "hope" involved, since all that new life we're "hoping" for is already kind of here.
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** They also don't seem that poor in comparison to the rest of the people in their village (if the one Jack visits during the prologue was his hometown). Everyone there appears to living in the same conditions, which makes sense for an American settlement in the early 1700s.
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** According to WordOfGod, the Man on the Moon ''did'' take away Jack's memories. [[spoiler:Twice.]] It appears to have been out of some misguided but good-faith attempt to protect him from pain, because you're right, there ''is'' something that makes Jack different: Jack's the only one amongst them who died before becoming their current self. [[spoiler:And before that, Jackson Overland was apparently--somehow--what remained of the person that had once been Nightlight after he gave up his powers, so it's understandable that the Man on the Moon would be a bit protective of his friend, even if his idea of protection seems to have ended up ultimately doing more harm than good.]]
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** Unlike the others, Jack isn't just a spirit based on protecting children: he's also a nature spirit. And while people might not believe in him specifically, ''everyone'' believes in the ''weather.'' It's not that confusing: Jack is obviously incredibly powerful even with ''no'' believers. While the others start off powerful and revert to their "baseline" states as the movie progresses--states which are pretty much powerless--Jack is ''already'' at his baseline throughout the entire movie. Yet he is incredibly powerful and only becomes ''moreso'' after becoming a Guardian, according to WordOfGod. All in all, Sandy and Jack are by far the most powerful members of the group. [[spoiler:Further, it's actually quite fitting that Jack, when able to focus and not doubt himself, could be a combative match for Pitch. According to the book series--to which the movie is a sequel--Jack was the one to seal Pitch away in the first place back when Jack was Nightlight.]] And honestly, when you have no believers and you're still powerful enough to control the weather, the only lack of belief that can damage you is your lack of belief in yourself.

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** Unlike the others, Jack isn't just a spirit based on protecting children: he's also a nature spirit. And while people might not believe in him specifically, ''everyone'' believes in the ''weather.'' It's not that confusing: Jack is obviously incredibly powerful even with ''no'' believers. While the others start off powerful and revert to their "baseline" states as the movie progresses--states which are pretty much powerless--Jack is ''already'' at his baseline throughout the entire movie. Yet he is incredibly powerful and only becomes ''moreso'' after becoming a Guardian, according to WordOfGod. All in all, Sandy and Jack are by far the most powerful members of the group. [[spoiler:Further, it's actually quite fitting that Jack, when able to focus and not doubt himself, could be a combative match for Pitch. According to the book series--to which the movie is a sequel--Jack was the one to seal Pitch away in the first place back when Jack was Nightlight.]] And honestly, when you have no believers and you're still powerful enough to control the weather, the only lack of belief that can damage you is your lack of belief in yourself.
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** Unlike the others, Jack isn't just a spirit based on protecting children: he's also a nature spirit. And while people might not believe in him specifically, ''everyone'' believes in the ''weather.'' It's not that confusing: Jack is obviously incredibly powerful even with ''no'' believers. While the others start off powerful and revert to their "baseline" states as the movie progresses--states which are pretty much powerless--Jack is ''already'' at his baseline throughout the entire movie. Yet he is incredibly powerful and only becomes ''moreso'' after becoming a Guardian, according to WordOfGod. All in all, Sandy and Jack are by far the most powerful members of the group. [[spoiler:Further, it's actually quite fitting that Jack, when able to focus and not doubt himself, could be a combative match for Pitch. According to the book series--to which the movie is a sequel--Jack was the one to seal Pitch away in the first place back when Jack was Nightlight.]] And honestly, when you have no believers and you're still powerful enough to control the weather, the only lack of belief that can damage you is your lack of belief in yourself.

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So we can infer that [[spoiler: Jack's family was poor]] judging from the clothes and village, so how did they manage to buy ice skates?

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* So we can infer that [[spoiler: Jack's family was poor]] judging from the clothes and village, so how did they manage to buy ice skates?skates?
** They probably just made them.
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*** Nope, the names are switched too. "Winter" is always the cold season, whether that's January or July. That is, in fact, why there are so many Australians complaining about Bunny's unthinking association between Easter and Spring.
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So we can infer that [[spoiler: Jack's family was poor]] judging from the clothes and village, so how did they manage to buy ice skates?
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** If I recall correctly, Jamie says at one point that Michigan is "super-close" to wherever he lives. As someone who grew up in Michigan but goes to school in south-central Ohio (which would probably qualify as "super-close!"), I can safely say that the circumstances necessary to declare a snow day vary significantly between these two locales. I've had "snow days" here in Ohio, in college, no less, where there was just enough to cover the ground, and most of it had already melted by late morning. As for why Jack couldn't make more of it, it was close to Easter, and probably not cold enough for that much snow to keep from melting.

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** If I recall correctly, Jamie says at one point that Michigan is "super-close" to wherever he lives. [[note]] According to his light on the globe, he lives somewhere in Pennsylvania.[[/note]] As someone who grew up in Michigan but goes to school in south-central Ohio (which would probably qualify as "super-close!"), I can safely say that the circumstances necessary to declare a snow day vary significantly between these two locales. I've had "snow days" here in Ohio, in college, no less, where there was just enough to cover the ground, and most of it had already melted by late morning. As for why Jack couldn't make more of it, it was close to Easter, and probably not cold enough for that much snow to keep from melting.
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* While the Guardians are busy battling Pitch during the climax, we cut to Jamie looking at a stream of golden sand moving by. He gets excited, exclaims "I know what we have to do!", and tells his friends to follow him. I guess the implication is that they did something to bring the Sandman back, but what was it? The movie never shows us...All we see is Sandy reappearing amidst a cloud of sand, but there's no mention of whether the kids were involved or what they did to cause it.

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* While the Guardians are busy battling Pitch during the climax, we cut to Jamie looking at a stream of golden sand moving by. He gets excited, exclaims "I know what we have to do!", and tells his friends to follow him. I guess the implication is that they did something to bring the Sandman back, but what was it? The movie never shows us...All we see is Sandy reappearing amidst a cloud of sand, but there's no mention of whether the kids were involved or what they did to cause it. (Apart from them running around purifying nightmares, but they were already doing that before Jamie's eureka moment.)
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* While the Guardians are busy battling Pitch during the climax, we cut to Jamie looking at a stream of golden sand moving by. He gets excited, exclaims "I know what we have to do!", and tells his friends to follow him. I guess the implication is that they did something to bring the Sandman back, but what was it? The movie never shows us...All we see is Sandy reappearing amidst a cloud of sand, but there's no mention of whether the kids were involved or what they did to cause it.
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** I'm from Michigan, so I could very well be wrong about this, but don't the seasons in the Southern Hemisphere have the same names as the northern ones? I thought it was the weather in each season that was switched around.
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** Also, they aren't really keeping it secret. People still pass down stories of Santa and the Easter Bunny and tooth fairy, all of them...The Guardians rely on those stories (along with their respective holiday roles) to instill their importance in children. It's only up to the children whether they choose to believe.
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* If Tooth hadn't known that Jack couldn't remember his past, that definitely hints at it being normal for a Guardian to be able to remember their life before they became a Guardian. Sooo...that brings us back to this enigma - why can't Jack remember his? Unless the man in the moon took away his memories, and he would have no reason to, since it only delayed him stopping Pitch because of his indecision...
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** Yetis, elves and santa himself are constantly moving around in the workshop, Bunny didn't want to take the chance that someone was in the area the hole opened to and would fall in, and even if he knew for a fact no one was there, if one wasn't paying attention where they were walking, they could fall in before he jumped out and closed the hole, and hurt him or themselves.

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