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** The UBCS are Umbrella's RedShirts. They were expendable ex-cons and the like. They would promise money and freedom to their UBCS hired hands, and these soldiers with nothing to lose would follow. The USS on the other hand are Umbrella's private operations.
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* Okay, okay: Capcom hadn't invented him when part 2 came out, so the question of why they didn't send Nemesis after the G-Virus is an easy question in a meta sense, but here's one that's still worth considering: Why'd they only make one Nemesis? He's still one of the most dangerous, intelligent, and effective monstrosities Umbrella ever cooked up, so why'd they mass produce the significantly easier-to-kill Tyrants instead? It's not like budget concerns were a problem for a company as StupidEvil as Umbrella.

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* Okay, okay: Capcom hadn't invented him when part 2 came out, so the question of why they didn't send Nemesis after the G-Virus is an easy question in a meta sense, but here's one that's still worth considering: Why'd why'd they only make one Nemesis? He's still one of the most dangerous, intelligent, and effective monstrosities Umbrella ever cooked up, so why'd they mass produce the significantly easier-to-kill Tyrants instead? It's not like budget concerns were a problem for a company as StupidEvil as Umbrella.



*** Come to think of it, Umbrella France could have won that little rivalry easy had they mass-produced the Nemesis, so yeah; good question.
*** Simple. Umbrella France got messed-up big-time by [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica Claire Redfield]] and [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilGunSurvivor Morpheus Duvall]].
*** Nemesis also had a fatal flaw: It's base is a tyrant; and finding one as a suitable host is VERY RARE. Even if one was found, if it takes too much damage, it reverted to basic Tyrant control, which likely jacked up production costs as well.
*** Actually there were more than one, but the parasite created too large of a "brain" and made one of the Prototypes actually gain full sentience, so they had to limit the parasites growth, the one we run like hell from is actually the only fully finished prototype before the french lab was destroyed.

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*** ** Come to think of it, Umbrella France could have won that little rivalry easy had they mass-produced the Nemesis, so yeah; good question.
*** ** Simple. Umbrella France got messed-up big-time by [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilCodeVeronica Claire Redfield]] and [[VideoGame/ResidentEvilGunSurvivor Morpheus Duvall]].
*** ** Nemesis also had a fatal flaw: It's its base is a tyrant; Tyrant; and finding one as a suitable host is VERY RARE. Even if one was found, if it takes too much damage, it reverted to basic Tyrant control, which likely jacked up production costs as well.
*** ** Actually there were more than one, but the parasite created too large of a "brain" and made one of the Prototypes prototypes actually gain full sentience, so they had to limit the parasites growth, the parasites' growth. The one we run like hell from is actually the only fully finished prototype before the french French lab was destroyed.



** Wait...you wanted them to speak out to cops that were run by a chief in the evil pharmaceutical company's back pocket? They had connections all the way up to the government. The only way they fell was in 4, when the damage was far too much to cover up.
*** True, but remember that Jill is a woman of action (and is probably angrily writing this speech into her diary moments before her apartment block burst into flames.) She knows that she would have taken the hardship and risk and expects others to do so too. Its not a reasonable expectation, especially as she has no husband or children who would also feel the pain, but there you go.
*** Judging from what happened to the city. They didn't.

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** Wait... you wanted them to speak out to cops that were run by a chief in the evil pharmaceutical company's back pocket? They had connections all the way up to the government. The only way they fell was in 4, 4's backstory, when the damage was far too much to cover up.
*** ** True, but remember that Jill is a woman of action (and is probably angrily writing this speech into her diary moments before her apartment block burst into flames.) She knows that she would have taken the hardship and risk and expects others to do so too. Its not a reasonable expectation, especially as she has no husband or children who would also feel the pain, but there you go.
*** ** Judging from what happened to the city. They didn't.



** A couple of the later games, most notably ''Code Veronica'', mention that the STARS program was famous. It's not hard to figure out why, since most of its members were former military and it was armed and armored like it was going to invade the next town over.

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** A couple of the later games, most notably ''Code Veronica'', mention that the STARS program was famous. It's not hard to figure out why, since most of its members were former military and it was armed and armored armoured like it was going to invade the next town over.



** Plus in the particular instance the troper cited, Jill is attacked by [[AlwaysABiggerFish the Gravedigger]]. Perhaps Nemesis saw it coming and decided not to get into a three-way fight with something much bigger than himself and that there was a chance the Gravedigger would do his job for him anyway.

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** Plus in the particular instance the troper cited, Jill is attacked by [[AlwaysABiggerFish the Gravedigger]]. Perhaps Nemesis saw it coming and decided not to get into a three-way fight with something much bigger than himself and also figured that there was a chance the Gravedigger would do his job for him anyway.



** Aside from the fact Carlos is ''shooting'' at him? It's mentioned [[AllThereInTheManual in supplementary materials]] the Nemesis had two objectives: Kill all the S.T.A.R.S. members, and take out anyone who might be assisting them or who the S.T.A.R.S. might have given info that would damn the company. Nemesis gets his first look at Carlos while Jill's in the same room, so he judges that the two are working together. Notice that (depending on how you play) he can also take out Nicholai, who is ''explictly'' under Umbrella's payroll, and he does so after he sees the latter having a lengthy conversation with Jill.
** In addition, notice that there's times Nemesis will also kill any zombies in his path. Essentially, anything between him and Jill is a target, whether it's something physically standing between the two or someone else trying to help her bring it down. It's even mentioned in the book that Nicholai is careful to try and make sure he doesn't wind up in Nemesis' path for that very reason. The time he dies later on (depending on your choices) is cause at that moment, Nicholai was between Nemesis and Jill.

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** Aside from the fact Carlos is ''shooting'' at him? It's mentioned [[AllThereInTheManual in supplementary materials]] the Nemesis had two objectives: Kill all the S.T.A.R.S. members, and take out anyone who might be assisting them or who the S.T.A.R.S. might have given info that would damn the company. Nemesis gets his first look at Carlos while Jill's in the same room, so he judges that the two are working together. Notice that (depending on how you play) he can also take out Nicholai, who is ''explictly'' ''explicitly'' under Umbrella's payroll, and he does so after he sees the latter having a lengthy conversation with Jill.
** In addition, notice that there's times Nemesis will also kill any zombies in his path. Essentially, anything between him and Jill is a target, whether it's something physically standing between the two or someone else trying to help her bring it down. It's even mentioned in the book novelisation that Nicholai is careful to try and make sure he doesn't wind up in Nemesis' path for that very reason. The time he dies later on (depending on your choices) is cause because at that moment, Nicholai was between Nemesis and Jill.



** They're fighting for money, not for a state or nation. Under Webster's, that makes them mercenaries.

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** They're fighting for money, not for a state or nation. Under Webster's, Webster's definition, that makes them mercenaries.
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** The new remake is all but assured to follow the precedent set by Jack in ''7'' and Mr. X in ''2'' in casting Nemesis as more of a SuperPersistentPredator, and at that ''[[UpToEleven even more so]]'' than the latter as Nemesis was always a superior version of X to begin with.

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** The new remake is all but assured to follow the precedent set by Jack in ''7'' and Mr. X in ''2'' in casting Nemesis as more of a SuperPersistentPredator, and at that ''[[UpToEleven even ''even more so]]'' so'' than the latter as Nemesis was always a superior version of X to begin with.
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* Two things from Jill's opening narration:
* 1. ""They" had to suffer the consequences of "their" actions, but there would be no forgiveness." Was "they" Umbrella or the people of Raccoon City?
* 2. On the same note, in whose favour were the wheels of justice that Jill was referring to?
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*** Judging from what happened to the city. They didn't.
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*** Isn't it also stated somewhere that Nemesis was highly experimental? In which case, they would have tested him before blowing a bunch of money and resources on more.


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** I believe it's mentioned in the book, which yes may be non-canon due to being its own timeline but it would make sense regardless, that Carlos basically kept a constant vigil over her to make sure she was safe and did what he could to keep her okay. She was basically unconscious for those days and he wasn't about to run off and leave her alone when a) anything could have happened to her while she was asleep and he wouldn't be there for her or b) she might attempt to leave cause she didn't know where he was or how long he had been gone and would have died one way or another. More or less, it was safer to wait until she woke up first before making the decision to hunt down the vaccine.
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** In addition, notice that there's times Nemesis will also kill any zombies in his path. Essentially, anything between him and Jill is a target, whether it's something physically standing between the two or someone else trying to help her bring it down. It's even mentioned in the book that Nicholai is careful to try and make sure he doesn't wind up in Nemesis' path for that very reason. The time he dies later on (depending on your choices) is cause at that moment, Nicholai was between Nemesis and Jill.

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** The new remake is all but assured to follow the precedent set by Jack in ''7'' and Mr. X in ''2'' in casting Nemesis as more of a SuperPersistentPredator, and at that ''[[UpToEleven even more so]]'' than the latter as Nemesis was always a superior version of X to begin with.



* Nemesis was designed and programmed to kill all S.T.A.R.S. survivors. So why was he trying to kill Carlos (whether you’re playing him or he’s alongside Jill?

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* Nemesis was designed and programmed to kill all S.T.A.R.S. survivors. So why was he trying to kill Carlos (whether you’re playing him or he’s alongside Jill?Jill)?
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** Admittedly it still counts toward Crazy Preparedness, but given the factory is old enough to be disguised as a "Dead" factory, it's probably it was built during or prior to The UsefulNotes/ColdWar and thus would still have that program collecting dust.

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** Admittedly it still counts toward Crazy Preparedness, but given the factory is old enough to be disguised as a "Dead" factory, it's probably probable it was built during or prior to The UsefulNotes/ColdWar and thus would still have that program collecting dust.
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** Admittedly it still counts toward Crazy Preparedness, but given the factory is old enough to be disguised as a "Dead" factory, it's probably it was built during or prior to UsefulNotes/ColdWar and thus would still have that program collecting dust.

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** Admittedly it still counts toward Crazy Preparedness, but given the factory is old enough to be disguised as a "Dead" factory, it's probably it was built during or prior to The UsefulNotes/ColdWar and thus would still have that program collecting dust.
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** Admittedly it still counts toward Crazy Preparedness, but given the factory is old enough to be disguised as a "Dead" factory, it's probably it was built during or prior to TheColdWar and thus would still have that program collecting dust.

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** Admittedly it still counts toward Crazy Preparedness, but given the factory is old enough to be disguised as a "Dead" factory, it's probably it was built during or prior to TheColdWar UsefulNotes/ColdWar and thus would still have that program collecting dust.
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*** That sounds like an awesome SequelHook; I hope a Nemesis in some form returns.
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** They're fighting for money, not for a state or nation. Under Webster's, that makes them mercenaries.
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** Aside from the fact Carlos is ''shooting'' at him? It's mentioned [[AllThereInTheManual in supplementary materials]] the Nemesis had two objectives: Kill all the S.T.A.R.S. members, and take out anyone who might be assisting them or who the S.T.A.R.S. might have given info that would damn the company. Nemesis gets his first look at Carlos while Jill's in the same room, so he judges that the two are working together. Notice that (depending on how you play) he can also take out Nicholai, who is ''explictly'' under Umbrella's payroll, and he does so after he sees the latter having a lengthy conversation with Jill.
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* How exactly are the UBCS “just” mercenaries? And how does that compare them to the USS?

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* How exactly are the UBCS “just” mercenaries? mercenaries if, as their title states, they for Umbrella? And how does that compare them to the USS?
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* Nemesis was designed and programmed to kill all S.T.A.R.S. survivors. So why was he trying to kill Carlos (whether you’re playing him or he’s alongside Jill?
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* How exactly are the UBCS “just” mercenaries? And how does that compare them to the USS?
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** A couple of the later games, most notably ''Code Veronica'', mention that the STARS program was famous. It's not hard to figure out why, since most of its members were former military and it was armed and armored like it was going to invade the next town over.
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** It's mentioned [[AllThereInTheManual elsewhere]] that the Nemesis is capable of making tactical decisions, and that his mission is not just to kill S.T.A.R.S. but anyone they could have spilled Umbrella secrets to. By that point, Nemesis has cottoned to the fact you're working with U.B.C.S. members, so now they're targets. It's not unreasonable to assume that him backing off until you're all in the trolley is a decision it made to wait until you were all in one place for easy disposal (and a justified one: he nearly finishes you all off in one go). As for the rest, of the times, notice that a lot of the times he backs off are when you reach relatively open areas where you could easily get around him. He WANTS to keep you penned into narrow hallways and corridors, because that's where he fights best; he's got a tactical disadvantage in areas where you can keep your distance and plug away at him. To leap off your cat analogy, he's smart enough not to chase the mouse into a forest of easily-climbable trees where it can get out of reach and start hucking acorns.

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** It's mentioned [[AllThereInTheManual elsewhere]] that the Nemesis is capable of making tactical decisions, and that his mission is not just to kill S.T.A.R.S. but anyone they could have spilled Umbrella secrets to. By that point, Nemesis has cottoned to the fact you're working with U.B.C.S. members, so now they're targets. It's not unreasonable to assume that him backing off until you're all in the trolley is a decision it made to wait until you were all in one place for easy disposal (and a justified one: he nearly finishes you all off in one go). As for the rest, of the times, notice that a lot of the times he backs off are when you reach relatively open areas where you could easily get around him. He WANTS to keep you penned into narrow hallways and corridors, because that's where he fights best; he's got a tactical disadvantage in areas where you can keep your distance and plug away at him. To leap off your cat analogy, he's smart enough not to chase the mouse into a forest of easily-climbable trees where it can get out of reach and start hucking acorns.
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** Plus in the particular instance the troper cited, Jill is attacked by [[AlwaysABiggerFish the Gravedigger]]. Perhaps Nemesis saw it coming and decided not to get into a three-way fight with something much bigger than himself and that there was a chance the Gravedigger would do his job for him anyway.

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