History Headscratchers / RedDeadRedemption

* How come Langdon gets on Marston's case for shooting the three banditos who try to mug him when he enters Chuparosa? Okay, he's got a point that a gringo coming into Mexico and killing three locals isn't exactly going to encourage good relations with the locals and that maybe John didn't have to resort to gunfire. But the three guys were clearly threatening John and John repeatedly tried to defuse the situation peacefully, and only resorted to violence when the three made it clear they were looking for an excuse to attack and bully him and weren't going to stop. And Landon ''knows all of this'', because he was sitting a few feet away watching and didn't raise a finger to help or intervene.
** Why would Landon help? To him John was just some wannabe thug who got annoyed by three banitos, and decided to just publically murder them.
** I'm not really asking why Landon didn't help John; I'm asking why Landon defaults to blaming John for what happened when Landon can clearly see that John wasn't the aggressor, was outnumbered three-to-one, and obviously kept trying to deescalate the situation.

** Just so you know, in order to surrender you must dismout your horse and equip your fists, it isn't enough that you holster your weapon.

** We know from the Train scene that Boonie was in Armadillo shortly before if not during your confrontation with Bill. Jake (the guy who takes you to the fort then dissappears from the game) may have been close enough to see or hear you get shot, then walk back into town not caring. He could have a conversation with someone about "that guy you wuz with" which Bonnie overheard. Bonnie, being Bonnie, probably responded "And you just left him up there? Did you even check to see if he was dead?" then went off to save your stupid ass.

** Even looking aside the Ridgewood Farm incident, kidnapping Bonnie [=MacFarlane=] and various other nasty things they get up to, they're a gang of outlaws so large ''they've commandeered a fort''. That's the kind of thing that's going to make the federal government sit up and take notice even if they're not causing much trouble at the moment, because that's teetering on the border between "criminal gang" and "army".

* Okay, what's the deal with Herbert Moon? I can't go to Armadillo without him crying, "Help! Help! It's Herbert Moooooonn!!!" and when I approach him he introduces himself then explains he's been robbed. Once is okay. Twice is so-so, but you'd think that after the tenth time Herbet runs up to me screaming for help before going on his "I'm Herbert Moon and I've just been robbed!" thing that he'd (a) Realize that we already know who he is and (b) find some way to not be robbed so dang easily. I'm tempted to just ignore him now. Even worst, if you killed him, he just respawns. Is he like The Adoring Fan from Oblivion or something?

** It's revealed in the prequel that John was attacked by a pack of wolves while lost in a snowstorm. [[/folder]]

** Red Dead Revolver is set about forty years before Redemption, and since Cameras weren't exactly common technology in the 1860s we can assume that Red never had a picture of himself taken. Which means there is a high chance that practically nobody as of Redemption can accurately say what Red looked like. That and the events of Revolver are regarded as more or less a folk tale or urban legend when Redemption is set. [[/folder]]

** It's revealed in the new prequel..

* Alright, seriously, how did the screw this up so badly? If you're riding a horse and it comes to a drop too steep, it pulls away and stops. Good. If you're on foot, you'll likely stop yourself. However, if you're on a horse, it will gladly run straight into water and kill you. This is despite the fact that horses can swim. You can make the argument that John and Jack can't, or that their gear weighs them down, but not the horse. The horse can swim. Humans are a really stupid species that have to learn most things that come naturally for anything else. Furthermore, who thinks that it's a good idea to make instant death water and then put towns on the instant death water and then not block off ways to easily stumble into it? And then, who goes "let's put a player property on the edge of the instant death water, making it extremely easy to accidentally ride your brain damaged horse into it"? [[/folder]]

** Maybe Landon thought John was just some hotheaded American who really enjoyed killing them, and just need the excuse. Yes John did try to defuse the situration. But in the end, he could of just knocked them out or something.

** He probably thought John was just some hotheaded American who really enjoyed killing them, and just need the excuse.

** He probably thought John was just some hotheaded American, who really enjoyed killing them. And just need the excuse.

** He probably thought there was no need to John to straight up murder them. He could of just knocked them out.

** He probably thought John just took it as an excuse to shoot them. Techinally they never became violent towards him. And besides, Landon was probably being sarcastic.

** He probably thought John just took it as an excuse to shoot them. Techinally they never became violent towards him.

** He probably thought John just took it as an excuse to shoot them. As they never became violent towards him.

** Maybe Landon felt that outright murdering them was a bit much, and maybe Johncould of just knocked them out or something. Besides, Ricketts was being sarcastic for the most part,.

* How come Langdon gets on Marston's case for shooting the three banditos who try to mug him when he enters Chuparosa? Okay, he's got a point that a gringo coming into Mexico and killing three locals isn't exactly going to encourage good relations with the locals and that maybe John didn't have to resort to gunfire. But the three guys were clearly threatening John and John repeatedly tried to defuse the situation peacefully, and only resorted to violence when the three made it clear they were looking for an excuse to attack and bully him and weren't going to stop. And Langdon ''knows all of this'', because he was sitting a few feet away watching and didn't raise a finger to help or intervene.

* How did Landon know John's name? John never told him when they first met, all John said was "nobody interesting". But in the next mission, Landon knows John by name, despite John never sayng who he was.

[[folder:The Death of Davey Callander]]
* When Davey is confirmed dead, you can see coins have been placed over his eyes. What's all that about?
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* How did Landon know John's name? John never told him when they fist met, all John said was "nobody interesting". But in the next mission, Landon knows John by name, despite John never sayng who he was.

*** Well, yes, you're beholden to the narrative... assuming you're following the narrative. But it's an open-world sandbox game. You still have full control over whether John fills his role in that plot and how he does so. You could do nothing but pick flowers, play cards and hunt wolves forever if so you chose, and the game would let you. You can do every job guns blazing or stealth around the place, and the game will let you. You can go around murdering whoever you want or restrain yourself, and the game will let you. It's still interactive media; John the character may be powerless within the narrative being told, but the player still controls John... until the point comes where not even the player has control any more.

*** Well, yes, you're beholden to the plot... assuming you're following the plot. But it's an open-world sandbox game. You still have full control over whether John fills his role in that plot. You could do nothing but pick flowers, play cards and hunt wolves forever if so you chose, and the game would let you. It's still interactive media; John the character may be powerless, but the player still controls John... until the point comes where not even the player has control any more.

* How come Langdon gets on Marston's case for shooting the three banditos who try to mug him when he enters Chuparosa? Okay, he's got a point that a gringo coming into Mexico and killing three locals isn't exactly going to encourage good relations with the locals and that maybe John didn't have to resort to gunfire, but the three guys were clearly threatening John and John repeatedly tried to defuse the situation peacefully, and only resorted to violence when the three made it clear they were looking for an excuse to attack and bully him and weren't going to stop. And Langdon ''knows all of this'', because he was sitting a few feet away watching and didn't raise a finger to help or intervene.