History Headscratchers / MuppetsMostWanted

** One, it's just part of the convention of this type of plot. Kermit even [[LampshadeHanging calls them out on it near the end]]. Two, even in-universe it's somewhat justified: the entire beginning of the movie with Kermit's interaction with the rest of the Muppets is setting up how their egos and desire to get to do whatever they want - and Dominic's indulgence of these - are setting them all at odds with Kermit anyway. When Constantine shows up and, again, allows them complete freedom they're just happy to be given it so they don't necessarily question ''why'' they're suddenly being given it. And Miss Piggy's never really seemed the type to go beyond the "fashionable French" thing anyway. Plus, Sam and Jean repeatedly bring up how stupid the Muppets are. Long story short, this kind of plot always requires a serious case of IdiotBall for it to work, and that's when it's meant to be taken 100% seriously. Part of the thing this film actually addresses is how awful it is that no one recognised the switch except Animal.

** When it really hit her is when he actually got pissed at the prisoners when they were just disregarding him during their BoyzIIMen song. A guy that doesn't take crap suddenly becomes very attractive.

** One, it's just part of the convention of this type of plot. Kermit even {LampshadeHanging calls them out on it near the end}. Two, even in-universe it's somewhat justified: the entire beginning of the movie with Kermit's interaction with the rest of the Muppets is setting up how their egos and desire to get to do whatever they want - and Dominic's indulgence of these - are setting them all at odds with Kermit anyway. When Constantine shows up and, again, allows them complete freedom they're just happy to be given it so they don't necessarily question ''why'' they're suddenly being given it. And Miss Piggy's never really seemed the type to go beyond the "fashionable French" thing anyway. Plus, Sam and Jean repeatedly bring up how stupid the Muppets are. Long story short, this kind of plot always requires a serious case of IdiotBall for it to work, and that's when it's meant to be taken 100% seriously. Part of the thing this film actually addresses is how awful it is that no one recognised the switch except Animal.

* Does it bother anyone else that the Muppets just accepted that Kermit "had a cold" and that even Miss Piggy accepted "Badguy = 'good man' in French?" I swear, even a child could tell that Constantine wasn't Kermit without all those previous clips of him due to that accent, and you'd think that with Miss Piggy's regular use of French she'd be able to spot Dominic's BlatantLies. It just seems like that borders on TooDumbToLive, save for Animal.

* Um...what happened to Gary and Mary from the first movie? It's an ImmediateSequel but they've just vanished.

** It may have to do with the European Union's proposed "Right to Vacation" law, in which the government has to pay for a citizen's tourism if they can't afford it. Also, there's the comparison between an average work-week in America and one in Europe. Americans have been estimated to work over 47 hours a week, opposed to France's 35-hour workweek.

* As a European I don't fully understand some of the jokes made at the expense of the French police. I'm guessing they play with the way Americans perceive us, like how compact cars are more popular in Europe than in America. But what's with the running gag about breaks? You are under the impression we take too many breaks and holidays in Europe?

* Why on earth is the European police officer's car have it's steering wheel on the American side?

* As a European I don't fully understand some of the jokes made at the expense of the french policeman. I'm guessing they play with the way Americans perceive us, like how compact cars are more popular in Europe than in America. But what's the thing with the breaks? You are under the impression we take too many breaks and holidays in Europe?

** Because in most of Europe we drive in the same side that the Americans, the left-hand traffic is mainly a British (and former British colonies like Australia and India) thing.

** Because in most of Europe we drive in the same side that the americans, the left-hand traffic is mainly a british thing.

* Why on earth is the European police officer's car have it's steering wheel on the American side?

* Sam going from his normal, member of the Muppets self in the last film to playing a character in this one. He says "Those weirdos, the Muppets" in one scene, but at no point do either he or the other Muppets act like they know each other - which is especially jarring when he arrests Kermit and Fozzie near the end. I was hoping there would be an explanation for his suddenly being a CIA Agent in the Unnecessarily Extended edition, but alas, it was not to be.

* Sam and Jean Pierre being absent during the "Together Again" finale.

* So, Constantine destroyed the gulag ("It's time to light the lights!") when he escaped from it, right? So where did all the scenes with Kermit and Nadya take place? I mean, yeah, I'm sure Russia has more than one gulag, but the implication seemed to be that it was the same one that Constantine escaped from.

* Obviously the real reason is that it would ruin the plot, but it bugs me that there is no in-story justification for the Muppets to be cleared of suspicion after "Interrogation Song." Dominic and Constantine left an enormous amount of evidence in the form of demolished theater/museum dividing walls, and Constantine's alibi was made entirely of BlatantLies that would fall apart if Sam and Jean actually ''did'' ask anybody else "who sang Rainbow Connection."

** She didn't seem to start softening up towards him until after she kept thwarting his multiple escape attempts, and then he has a moment where he feels down in the dumps for seeing in the paper that his friends don't even seem to need or care about him anymore now that Dominic is handling things. From that moment on, Nadya progressively grew more sympathetic towards him, and it seemed to snowball from there. I maybe over thinking here, but I'm guessing maybe because she puts up with notoriously dangerous prisoners all day long (and probably has for a looong time), to have someone like Kermit, who actually has genuine feelings and emotions, probably touched something inside her.

* Was Nadya obsessed with Kermit ''before'' he came to the gulag, or did the fascination spring purely from her interactions with him? She certainly didn't seem to react when she realized she had Kermit the Frog locked up in a cell, but later on, she reveals an incredibly decked-out Kermit shrine that looks like it probably took some time to build.

** She kind of spelled it out. As long as he has that mole on his face, he's officially considered Constantine, so it's her job to keep him in jail.

** Well, it was more than obsession.

** More than likely Nadya would've looked incompetent for having such a thing happen, so she kept it under wraps...also she had become obsessed with him, so you know how that is.

* Okay, so Nadya and the prisoners in the gulag figured out pretty quickly that Kermit was, in fact, ''not'' Constantine (big give-away: Constantine ''never'' says, "Thank you"), so aside from the obvious, "There wouldn't be a movie/plot" aspect, why didn't anyone let Kermit free and resume hunting Constantine down? I can see Nadya's obsession with him probably played a factor, but still, everyone else seemed to also know he wasn't really Constantine, so why keep him imprisoned over mistaken identity?