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** The killer was B.B. (same trenchcoat etc). I don't know about you, but I unloaded a Jackhammer into that guy's face.
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** I can't recall if it's brought up in the tie-in comic series, but I imagine Winterson's ties to Vlad would have been uncovered during the investigation (phone messages, etc), which would have made it less of a slam dunk to convict Max. The Police may have preferred to sweep it all under the carpet and "heavily suggest" Max take this fine opportunity to retire.
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*** [[AllThereInTheManual According to the manual]] Max had his entire background changed by Horne into that of a felon so that it was easy to frame him, and his cop buddies probably wouldn't have said anything since he's supposed to be undercover. As for the Punchinellos, we don't get anything specific about Max's undercover work, he could have had a alias or something, but it was dropped after Alex was killed.
* Whatever happened to Alex's killer? He just shows up, kills Alex, and runs away, we never see anybody that even remotely looks like him again.
* Whatever happened to Alex's killer? He just shows up, kills Alex, and runs away, we never see anybody that even remotely looks like him again.
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*** And we can of course assume that all the guns dropped by the Mooks that Max kills five inches away from Passos are empty.
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* Max clearly took steps to disguise his identity for his undercover work in the first game, except he used his real full name, which is still connected to his past life as an NYPD officer. Granted it was most likely so the player didn't get confused when the police & news are naming the "wrong person" in their manhunt but how was it that neither the Punchinellos nor the police realized he was really a former NYPD cop or DEA agent? Did Max make no friends going through the academy or on his police beat that would realize the criminal on all the news broadcasts looks suspiciously like, and has the same name as, someone who went through police training academy and had served the NYPD among them? Regarding the Punchinellos, Max's dream sequence showed he & Alex Balder had made headlines a few times: wouldn't the criminal cartel perform some sort of cursory background check on Max before accepting him into their ranks? There's also the question of how exposed and high profile the story of the murder of cop's family (and a wife who worked in the DA's office) would be, which would have given Max a great deal of public exposure and even more opportunities for the crime family's background check to pick him up as "That guy whose family was killed by Valkyr addicts and has a major reason to want to screw us up big time".
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* If they wanted Max to be the fall guy, why did they keep sending him into situations where he could have gotten killed? Or, if they fully expected him to survive, why did they think they could stop him once he was turned into the fall guy?
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** He says he's nearly out of ammo when you start the section.
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* Is there a Watsonian explanation for why Passos suddenly forgets how to use a gun when you're covering him in the sniper segment of Chapter 3?
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* How exactly did Max escape punishment after the end of the second game? After killing a fellow detective who had a blind son and the only person who could have helped him, Alfred Woden, being dead, it's hard to think of how Max didn't get at least ten years in prison.
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*** Plus, since after killing well over a thousand people in the previous two games, Max is probably pretty famous as an extremly violent and unstable man. That, coupled with the fact he's so obvioualy fucked up on alcohol and painkillers all the time, it'd be trivial to place the blame on him.
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** [[spoiler: Also, just before Vlad shoots Max in the funhouse he says that a true gentleman must always avenge the crimes done to his lady, and Max did kill Winterson. Max killing Winterson marks the point at which it becomes an ItsPersonal affair.]]
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** The bullet did strike him, but failed to kill him. Vlad underestimated just how tough Max was (and also didn't plan on Mona finding him in time).
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* So was Vlad actually trying to kill Max in the funhouse, or was he just an extremely terrible shot? How do you fire a gun at someone less than ten feet away and still miss?
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** Public opinion would automatically be against a foreigner, and so it would be easier to blame them for something big without anyone looking really deeply into it. The foreigner ''in question'' was just a big schmuck, or so they thought.
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*** [[spoiler: That or they could easier pin the blame on him for Rodrigo's death. It'd be easier for people to swallow that Rodrigo got killed and Fabiana kidnapped because the guy guarding him them was an incompetent, old, drug addicted drunk who liked killing people a bit too much and drawing attention from all the wrong crowds.]]
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*** [[spoiler: That or they could easier pin the blame on him for Rodrigo's death. It'd be easier for people to swallow that Rodrigo got killed because the guy guarding him was an incompetent, old, drug addicted drunk who liked killing people a bit too much.]]
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** [[spoiler: Max is the Fall Guy for Rodrigo's murder. They would presumably say he went postal after Fabiana's death, killed his boss, and blew up the building. Everything Max does before and after that is him screwing with the plan. They assumed he'd just be an easily killed psycho ex-cop.]]
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* [[spoiler: Victor Branco sends Passaso to go recruit Max in order to make him the fall guy.]]. The problem is, really, I can't think of why. Why did they need to blame a foreigner when there were crime syndicates and paramilitaries already in place to do the job.
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** [[spoiler: He suffers in agony for a bit and that extra suffering unlocks his skin for multiplayer.]]
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* [[spoiler: At the end of the game you basically have Becker, who's had a grenade go off in his face and is clearly not going to make it, and if you shoot him he died. But, if you don't shoot him then he dies anyway from his wounds. What was the point to having a choice to shoot him or not if the outcome was more or less the same?]]
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** [[spoiler: Max is Alfred Woden's high face card, he has a history with Mona, and Vlad knows that Max doesn't let things go. Vlad knows that in order to kill Woden, he needs to kill Mona, and that means he needs to kill Max. He'd obviously prefer otherwise but knows there's no way around it.]]
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Max clearly took steps to disguise his identity for his undercover work in the first game, except he used his real full name, which is still connected to his past life as an NYPD officer. Granted it was most likely so the player didn't get confused when the police & news are naming the "wrong person" in their manhunt but how was it that neither the Punchinellos nor the police realized he was really a former NYPD cop or DEA agent? Did Max make no friends going through the academy or on his police beat that would realize the criminal on all the news broadcasts looks suspiciously like, and has the same name as, someone who went through police training academy and had served the NYPD among them? Regarding the Punchinellos, Max's dream sequence showed he & Alex Balder had made headlines a few times: wouldn't the criminal cartel perform some sort of cursory background check on Max before accepting him into their ranks? There's also the question of how exposed and high profile the story of the murder of cop's family (and a wife who worked in the DA's office) would be, which would have given Max a great deal of public exposure and even more opportunities for the crime family's background check to pick him up as "That guy whose family was killed by Valkyr addicts and has a major reason to want to screw us up big time".
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** Just make it look like he got "fired" after his family died, and desperately needs the money. Happens a lot in real life.
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Max clearly took steps to disguise his identity for his undercover work in the first game, except he used his real full name, which is still connected to his past life as an NYPD officer. Granted it was most likely so the player didn't get confused when the police & news are naming the "wrong person" in their manhunt but how was it that neither the Punchinellos nor the police realized he was really a former NYPD cop or DEA agent? Did Max make no friends going through the academy or on his police beat that would realize the criminal on all the news broadcasts looks suspiciously like, and has the same name as, someone who went through police training academy and had served the NYPD among them? Regarding the Punchinellos, Max's dream sequence showed he & Alex Balder had made headlines a few times: wouldn't the criminal cartel perform some sort of cursory background check on Max before accepting him into their ranks? There's also the question of how exposed and high profile the story of the murder of cop's family (and a wife who worked in the DA's office) would be, which would have given Max a great deal of public exposure and even more opportunities for the crime family's background check to pick him up as "That guy whose family was killed by Valkyr addicts and has a major reason to want to screw us up big time".time".
** Perhaps they did realize it, but just figured he'd gone off his rocker after his family was killed.
** Perhaps they did realize it, but just figured he'd gone off his rocker after his family was killed.
