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**** That isn't really the same situation. For a Superman so early in his superhero career, it's vital that the US goverment trusts him enough to let him do his jo, and the General is the highest ranking officer he's met so far.
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*** As a child, Clark figured it out over the course of ''one'' conversation. It's plausible that Clark was simply too green, but that only makes it that much more of a WhatAnIdiot moment.
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*** But that answer [[VoodooShark just raises further questions]]. Superman having that much trust in someone who is essentially a stranger is a lazy answer to the inconsistency. For example, you could have Superman walk up to a random cop and say "My name is Clark Kent" and explain it with the same excuse of "he trusts the officer to do the right thing". Yes, it could be true--but even if it is, it's just lazy.
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*** Now this has a clear explanation. Clark trusts the General, and gave the info that he was born in Kansas to reassure him that he is an American and won't ever turn against his country. He is confident that the General is going to understand (and make the goverment understand) that Supes needs his privacy and that he is an ally they can trust.
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*** Now this has a clear explanation. Clark trusts the General, and gave the info that he was born raised in Kansas to reassure him that he is an American and won't ever turn against his country. He is confident that the General is going to understand (and make the goverment understand) that Supes needs his privacy and that he is an ally they can trust.
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*** Yeah, that's a bit of a headscratcher right there. I guess this being his first encounter with superpowered foes, Supes is too green and not thinking like a fighter. Alos, I took him years to learn how to focus his senses, so he probably wasn't counting on Zod to get used to the sensory overload so quick.
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*** Yeah, that's a bit of a headscratcher right there. I guess this being his first encounter with superpowered foes, Supes is too green and not thinking like a fighter. Alos, I Also, it took him years to learn how to focus his senses, so he probably wasn't counting on Zod to get used to the sensory overload so quick.
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*** Yeah, that's a legitimate headscratcher right there. I guess this being his first encounter with superpowered foes, Supes is too green and not thinking like a fighter.
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*** Yeah, that's a legitimate bit of a headscratcher right there. I guess this being his first encounter with superpowered foes, Supes is too green and not thinking like a fighter. Alos, I took him years to learn how to focus his senses, so he probably wasn't counting on Zod to get used to the sensory overload so quick.
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** It's always night time in Gotham, and the sun is always up in Metropolis. Basic comic book facts!
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* While obviously less horrible than Zod's genocidal plan, wouldn't Jor-Ek's Jor-El's version of rebuilding the Kryptonian race, still end up bad for Earth? I mean, even in the unlikely case that every Kryptonian born was a super-nice dude like Clark, you'd still have a ever growing population of superpowerful men and women among the much weaker humans. There is simply no way they would co-exist as equals with us, in the best case they would end up as benevolent ruling class of dictators. Hell, a lot of people probably would ASK them to become exactly that.
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* While obviously less horrible than Zod's genocidal plan, wouldn't Jor-Ek's version of rebuilding the Kryptonian race, still end up bad for Earth? I mean, even in the unlikely case that every Kryptonian born was a super-nice dude like Clark, you'd still have a ever growing population of superpowerful men and women among the much weaker humans. There is simply no way they would co-exist as equals with us, in the best case they would end up as benevolent ruling class of dictators. Hell, a lot of people probably would ASK them to become exactly that.
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* Clark talks way too much about things he really shouldn't throughout the entire film.
** When Zod asks "What have you done?" while going through SensoryOverload, Clark tells him how his mother taught him to control his senses. Why would you do that? Punch him with the force of a bomb or toss him in the air at supersonic speed and let his eardrums explode--or possibly make him pass out!
** When the General asks if he has America's interests at heart, he flat out tells the General he was raised in Kansas. WHY?! Until now, the army may have had no idea why the fight started in Smallville. But now, they have a perfect trail of bread crumbs to lead them back to your mother, and thus completely ruin the purpose of destroying the spy satellite.
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* Clark talks way too much about things he really shouldn't throughout the entire film.
** When Zod asks "What have you done?" while going through SensoryOverload, Clark tells him how his mother taught him to control his senses. Why would you do that? Punch him with the force of a bomb or toss him in the air at supersonic speed and let his eardrums explode--or possibly make him pass out!
** When the General asks if he has America's interests at heart, he flat out tells the General he was raised in Kansas. WHY?! Until now, the army may have had no idea why the fight started in Smallville. But now, they have a perfect trail of bread crumbs to lead them back to your mother, and thus completely ruin the purpose of destroying the spy satellite.
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** Watch the movie, and this isn't the place to talk about your tastes. [[spoiler:Zod wants Superman dead because he doesn't want to go along with the Kryptonians' plans to create New Krypton on the corpses of Earth & humanity. The Codex is not in his DNA, but literally carved into his cells nearly microscopically. Only the machines they have can get all of the information from his cells, something that can't be accomplished by "a DNA swab"]].
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** I thought the scene might have been Clark's imagination. He wishes he could have looked the part of a hero for Jonathan Kent.
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** [[AWizardDidIt Kryptonian technology]]. If they can make a spaceship that's still functional after sitting around a few thousand years with no one maintaining it, they can make a suit that expands or shrinks to fit its wearer (we already have [[http://www.mymagicbubbleshirts.com/ some shirts that can do this]] to a degree, thanks to spandex and clever construction). Or perhaps all Kryptonians are genetically engineered to be within a certain percentage of one another in height and bone structure, baring accidents or malnutrition, and so any male suit would fit him (it would certainly be more efficient for a society to be similar enough in size that any article of clothing would fit any member).
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* Okay, I admit to being a SpoilerHound (I was '''not''' ''at all'' impressed by ''TheDarkNight'' and wanted to see how much DarkerAndEdgier things went) and having not yet watched the film, but why ''exactly'' does Zod need Kal-El's ''corpse'' to extract the Codex from his cells? Can't he just take a bucal swab and sequence the DNA or something?
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* Okay, I admit to being a SpoilerHound (I was '''not''' ''at all'' impressed by ''TheDarkNight'' and wanted to see how much DarkerAndEdgier things went) and having not yet watched the film, but why ''exactly'' does Zod need Kal-El's ''corpse'' to extract the Codex from his cells? Can't he just take a bucal swab and sequence the DNA or something?
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* After Lois gets shot by a security drone, Clark uses his heat vision to stop the bleeding. While Clark may have saved her life, he then opts to abandon Lois on the bare ice in a part of the world that can reach 40 degrees below zero at night. The military guys don't find Lois until the next morning, so how did she survive?
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* After Lois gets shot by a security drone, Clark uses his heat vision to stop the bleeding. While Clark may have saved her life, he then opts to abandon Lois on the bare ice in a part of the world that can reach 40 degrees below zero at night. The military guys don't find Lois until the next morning, so how did she survive?
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* When Clark finds the 18,000 year old scout ship in the arctic, the Superman costume is on-board and is somehow a perfect fit for him. How is that even possible?
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** Seemed to be a bit of Fridge Brilliance, actually: It was noted that taking up arms against their own people was a grave offense to the Kryptonians in the movie. If they have been living on Krypton for centuries with no in-fighting, and they weren't expanding into space anymore, what real need of a full-on military did they have? Zod's influence was obviously far beyond just policing the populace. He probably didn't have as much real experience as we might assume at first. Plus, if he was bred to just be the Kryptonians' general, he may not have been immersed in direct combat training as much as tactical training. This would seem to be supported by his [[TheDragon Dragon]] Faora being able to do better against Clark with even less power than Zod had in the finale, since she was probably more experienced in hand-to-hand fighting.
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** While their technology was impressive, the prequel comic shows that they are technologically stagnant, especially concerning their space program which hadn't been used in millennia. They wouldn't have been able to construct the engines & ships needed to even evacuate a percentage of their population, even in the short few weeks they had left. But what Jor-El was talking about was that ''because'' of their role-assignment at birth, the already grown Kryptonians would not be able to function properly (i.e. Zod) on a new world. Jor-El's plan was that, even though the Codex would be able to allow for artificial birth, Kal-El (who was free to choose what to do with his life) could pass on that trait to the next generation, something that the former generation would never have allowed. The social stagnation also was essentially what lead to their planet's premature demise, so there's that too.
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* It's mentioned by Jor-El that because all Kryptonians other than the natural born Kal-El would die because since they were born artificially, and therefore "our fate was tied to that of our planet." '''What the hell?''' Zod and co. seemed to take Krypton's EarthShatteringKaboom just fine. What reason (other than hewing to the established Superman mythos, of course) is there that no one could use Krypton's CrystalSpiresAndTogas technology to get off the planet en masse?masse?
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*** I would hazard to guess that they knew beforehand that they would gain superpowers under an earth environment and that their suits were modified to filter out the powers that couldn't be handled without significant practice. They did have at least one scientist along for the ride who could do that if needed.
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*If Kryptonians are genetically engineered, how exactly did Lara get pregnant AND they manage to keep it a secret? Furthermore, why exactly haven't babies been naturally born, anyhow? The pods they kept in are kind of pointless seeing as how they're going to have a role chosen for them regardless.
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*I know this might be a case of TooDumbToLive, but how are these people the leaders of a race of superbeings and THIS incompetent? Surely they could've known that genetically engineering everyone for a specific role was going to backfire in a ridiculous amount of ways?
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*If Kryptonians are genetically engineered, how exactly did Lara get pregnant AND they manage to keep it a secret? Furthermore, why exactly haven't babies been naturally born, anyhow? The pods they kept in are kind of pointless seeing as how they're going to have a role chosen for them regardless.
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*I know this might be a case of TooDumbToLive, but how are these people the leaders of a race of superbeings and THIS incompetent? Surely they could've known that genetically engineering everyone for a specific role was going to backfire in a ridiculous amount of ways?
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** Jor-El is a scientist who recognized the flaws in Kryptonian selective breeding. As scientists go about their work by testing theories, he would have tested to see if he could break the mould and be ''more'' than the scientist Kryptonian society intended him to be. We know he's right, hence why he's able to fight so well against Zod and his soldiers.
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