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** It's appeared less often than [[WesternAnimation/Hercules Olympus]].
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** It's appeared less often than [[WesternAnimation/Hercules [[{{WesternAnimation/Hercules}} Olympus]].
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*** Let's not forget Kingdom Hearts II's ending, where Kairi threw a message in a bottle from the sea in Destiny Islands managed to reach Sora and Riku at the Dark Meridian, ALSO connected to water. And the factor that the King's message also arrived in a bottle at sea and the theory above on how the Space between Worlds and the Ocean were basically the same thing (from a different perspective). From this take, to Sora and co they're riding on a Gummi Ship through Space when a huge space Whale pops up to eat them. But to Monstro, he came across the equivalent to a submarine vessel which he then proceeded to eat.
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*** Let's not forget Kingdom Hearts II's ending, where Kairi threw a message in a bottle from the sea in Destiny Islands managed to reach Sora and Riku at the Dark Meridian, ALSO connected to water. And the factor that the King's message also arrived in a bottle at sea and the theory above on how the Space between Worlds and the Ocean were basically the same thing (from a different perspective). From this take, to Sora and co they're riding on a Gummi Ship through Space when a huge space Whale pops up to eat them. But to Monstro, he came across the equivalent to a submarine vessel which he then proceeded to eat.eat.
* [[{{WesternAnimation/Hercules}} Olympus (Coliseum)]] suggests that the film Hercules has already happened in both ''I'' and ''II''. Notably, the Titans are already out and free, Megara isn't working for Hades, Hercules is already cited as being a true hero, Hercules defeats the Hydra while avoiding cutting its head off this time, and he directly brings up his recollection of the end of the film's events where he saved Megara. Despite that, ''III'' shows that the events of the movie have yet to happen. What events could have possibly happened in Olympus, then? Additionally, if Hades has so thoroughly exhausted his bag of tricks that by the most important day of his 18-year-plan he can't come up with anything other than a fire in Thebes to delay Hercules' interruption, why wouldn't he accept any potential help from Maleficent or Pete?
* [[{{WesternAnimation/Hercules}} Olympus (Coliseum)]] suggests that the film Hercules has already happened in both ''I'' and ''II''. Notably, the Titans are already out and free, Megara isn't working for Hades, Hercules is already cited as being a true hero, Hercules defeats the Hydra while avoiding cutting its head off this time, and he directly brings up his recollection of the end of the film's events where he saved Megara. Despite that, ''III'' shows that the events of the movie have yet to happen. What events could have possibly happened in Olympus, then? Additionally, if Hades has so thoroughly exhausted his bag of tricks that by the most important day of his 18-year-plan he can't come up with anything other than a fire in Thebes to delay Hercules' interruption, why wouldn't he accept any potential help from Maleficent or Pete?
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** There could be any number of reasons. Perhaps Aladdin thought Jafar would chase after them if he took Jasmine and ran. Perhaps Aladdin didn’t want to leave his friends to fight an empowered Jafar on their own, since he really isn’t the type to leave his friends in a pinch.
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** There could be any number of reasons. Perhaps Aladdin thought Jafar would chase after them if he took Jasmine and ran. Perhaps Aladdin didn’t want to leave his friends to fight an empowered Jafar on their own, since he really isn’t the type to leave his friends in a pinch.pinch.
* The big twist of the original ''WesternAnimation/AliceInWonderland'' (and hell, the original ''Literature/AlicesAdventuresInWonderland'') is that Wonderland exists entirely within a dream Alice has. In ''Kingdom Hearts'', she is somehow taken from her own dream by Maleficent. How does Wonderland continue to even exist in her absence?
** Since the worlds are essentially alternate universes with the movies, this must take place in where Alice did end up in a real wonderland. The real question is what original world did she belong to? The Clock Tower extension of Never Land?
* A bit of a blunt one: where is Christopher Robin during all of the events in the 100 Acre Wood? We see that Sora apparently takes his place, being the one that opens the book and all. Was the book separated from Christopher Robin's world, in which he becomes the human of the story?
** Has ''Merlin'' ever entered the story while the book was in his possession?
* Birth by Sleep has shown that in Kingdom Hearts, you can't breathe in space. If that's the case, how was Monstro able to survive in space without his head exploding?
** It's a whale floating through space. [[MST3KMantra Don't think too hard about it.]]
** I'm not even sure how BBS proved that. They wear the armor to prevent themselves from being corrupted by the darkness in space. In BBS, Xehanort refuses to wear the armor, believing that it he should welcome the darkness rather than reject it, while Mickey gets knocked unconscious and is suspended in space without armor until Aqua finds him. It's fair to say you can breath in space.
*** No, it's not that they can breathe in space, it's that Mickey has the magic of his Star Shard protecting him, even when he is unconscious. No character in Birth by Sleep or any Kingdom Hearts game is shown to be able to move around to other worlds without a ship, corridors of darkness, or Keyblade armor protecting them. Monstro might have a way for air to circulate through his body, especially given how insanely complex and weird the inside of the whale is.
** Air is never brought up, it's just the corrupting influence of darkness, this isn't space as we think of it, it's The Realms Between, We don't know for sure if Monstro could be corrupted, or even if he has a heart.
*** Although we are told that he tore through dimensions to get to Hollow Bastion, it's safe to conclude that Beast managed to utilize the corridors of darkness himself.
*** Let's not forget Kingdom Hearts II's ending, where Kairi threw a message in a bottle from the sea in Destiny Islands managed to reach Sora and Riku at the Dark Meridian, ALSO connected to water. And the factor that the King's message also arrived in a bottle at sea and the theory above on how the Space between Worlds and the Ocean were basically the same thing (from a different perspective). From this take, to Sora and co they're riding on a Gummi Ship through Space when a huge space Whale pops up to eat them. But to Monstro, he came across the equivalent to a submarine vessel which he then proceeded to eat.
* The big twist of the original ''WesternAnimation/AliceInWonderland'' (and hell, the original ''Literature/AlicesAdventuresInWonderland'') is that Wonderland exists entirely within a dream Alice has. In ''Kingdom Hearts'', she is somehow taken from her own dream by Maleficent. How does Wonderland continue to even exist in her absence?
** Since the worlds are essentially alternate universes with the movies, this must take place in where Alice did end up in a real wonderland. The real question is what original world did she belong to? The Clock Tower extension of Never Land?
* A bit of a blunt one: where is Christopher Robin during all of the events in the 100 Acre Wood? We see that Sora apparently takes his place, being the one that opens the book and all. Was the book separated from Christopher Robin's world, in which he becomes the human of the story?
** Has ''Merlin'' ever entered the story while the book was in his possession?
* Birth by Sleep has shown that in Kingdom Hearts, you can't breathe in space. If that's the case, how was Monstro able to survive in space without his head exploding?
** It's a whale floating through space. [[MST3KMantra Don't think too hard about it.]]
** I'm not even sure how BBS proved that. They wear the armor to prevent themselves from being corrupted by the darkness in space. In BBS, Xehanort refuses to wear the armor, believing that it he should welcome the darkness rather than reject it, while Mickey gets knocked unconscious and is suspended in space without armor until Aqua finds him. It's fair to say you can breath in space.
*** No, it's not that they can breathe in space, it's that Mickey has the magic of his Star Shard protecting him, even when he is unconscious. No character in Birth by Sleep or any Kingdom Hearts game is shown to be able to move around to other worlds without a ship, corridors of darkness, or Keyblade armor protecting them. Monstro might have a way for air to circulate through his body, especially given how insanely complex and weird the inside of the whale is.
** Air is never brought up, it's just the corrupting influence of darkness, this isn't space as we think of it, it's The Realms Between, We don't know for sure if Monstro could be corrupted, or even if he has a heart.
*** Although we are told that he tore through dimensions to get to Hollow Bastion, it's safe to conclude that Beast managed to utilize the corridors of darkness himself.
*** Let's not forget Kingdom Hearts II's ending, where Kairi threw a message in a bottle from the sea in Destiny Islands managed to reach Sora and Riku at the Dark Meridian, ALSO connected to water. And the factor that the King's message also arrived in a bottle at sea and the theory above on how the Space between Worlds and the Ocean were basically the same thing (from a different perspective). From this take, to Sora and co they're riding on a Gummi Ship through Space when a huge space Whale pops up to eat them. But to Monstro, he came across the equivalent to a submarine vessel which he then proceeded to eat.
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** Jafar's wish for the Genie was to "Crush them." Jafar [[LiteralGenie never explicitly wished]] for Genie to kill anyone, and the Genie's rules don't say he can't be asked to ''fight'' on his master's behalf as long as he doesn't use his powers to kill, which is semi-evidenced by Genie not really ''trying'' to defeat them (he swings wide to say he put the requested effort in, but many of his attacks are easily avoided). Presumably the "no wishing for killing" rule is supposed to prevent Genies from carrying out Death Note-style instant assassinations, anyway.
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** Jafar's wish for the Genie was to "Crush them." Jafar [[LiteralGenie never explicitly wished]] for Genie to kill anyone, and the Genie's rules don't say he can't be asked to ''fight'' on his master's behalf as long as he doesn't use his powers to kill, which is semi-evidenced by Genie not really ''trying'' to defeat them (he swings wide to say he put the requested effort in, but many of his attacks are easily avoided). Presumably the "no wishing for killing" rule is supposed to prevent Genies from carrying out Death Note-style instant assassinations, anyway.assassinations from across the globe, like heart attacks, aneurysms or exploding heads; the very fact that Sora ''has a fighting chance'' is probably enough to weasel past the rule.
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*** When they first meet, Sora asks if going with Donald and Goofy will give him a chance to find Riku and Kairi; Donald emphatically agrees, but tells Goofy "Who knows? But we need him to come with us to help us find the king." At the time of Riku's appearance in Traverse Time, Donald ''doesn't care'' about Sora, his friends or his problems, and is just using him. It's not until Hollow Bastion that he realizes he screwed up.
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** A hint to this may lie in the fact that Riku, despite losing his body to Ansem, is suddenly corporeal again after being banished to the Realm of Darkness. An argument can be made that Ansem's destruction returned the physical body to Riku (roll with it), but there is a gap there where Riku explicitly lost his body and still is running around. Perhaps a strong enough inner light allows a free heart to project its original form, and Kairi's influence removed the Heartless shell and strengthened Sora's heart's ability to do so.
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** ... or more simply, it's Sora's personal character symbol, starting with the crown necklace he wears. As the series continues, more characters gain their own "emblem" to represent themselves.
** On the other hand, there were zero Final Fantasy characters in ''Kingdom Hearts III'', until the DLC for it dropped and gave Leon and friends a cameo.
** Simple answer, "Keyblade" is the name of the weapon class, like "Gunblade" is for Squall/Lightning or "Sword", "Whip", etc. Proper names are reserved for individual models, which is where you end up with Oathkeeper, Oblivion, and so on.
** This discussion got out of hand real fast. The short version is, Heartless aren't "living organisms with hearts", they're constructs made of the darkness that burst out of someone's heart, acting as a living cage around the remainder of said heart. They were also named before Nomura came up with the concept of Nobodies, who were given an ironic name in-story.
** In the movie, the ''very first rule'' the Genie gave for his wishes is that he can't kill anybody. Presumably, destroying or erasing all Heartless from existence would constitute a break of this rule. (Technically, Jafar ordering the Genie to "crush" Sora and Aladdin might ''also'' break this rule, but Jafar's phrasing allows a broader interpretation where Genie just has to fight them personally rather than use his full power.)
*** ... Ariel is able to surface or laze about the beach and breathe just fine in the movie. Mermaids can breathe air ''or'' water, the bigger issue is their mobility on land.
*** Alice ''definitely'' wasn't a princess in Wonderland. Kairi's a little more ambiguous, but later entries strongly imply that she was just a regular citizen of Radiant Garden, and that Ansem's castle had visiting hours.
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** The possible answer to that question lies in the question, "How many wielders HAVE had Dive to the Heart dreams prior to summoning a Keyblade?" The only one we're aware of is Sora; the only other wielders we see at a Station are Roxas (who already has a Keyblade at that point and is following his connection to Sora), and Ventus (who doesn't face any trials on his, rather using it as a final stage to fight Vanitas). Coincidentally, as far as we're aware, it's implied Sora is one of the only wielders who didn't undergo a "Bequeathing" ceremony to inherit a Keyblade, and took one instead. It's possible the Dive to the Heart is a trial to prove one's worthiness to wield a Keyblade if they weren't just given one by a master, and that Riku didn't ''have'' to take the test himself.
** ... y'all realize "Twilight" isn't meant to be some kind of "balance" between Light and Dark, right? Twilight is associated with the power of Nobodies -- the ''absence'' of both -- and the metaphor DiZ uses when he refers to the "twilight road to nightfall" is to ask if Riku intends to teeter on the edge of darkness and oblivion like the Nobodies do. ("The road to dawn" Riku refers to is a counterpoint, that he already considers himself a warrior who came from the darkness, again in service to the interests of the light.)
** Further, the triptych of "Light/Darkness/Twilight" works for Creatures of the Realm of Light (complete people), Creatures of the Realm of Darkness (Pureblood Heartless), and Creatures of Neither (Nobodies, who were never supposed to exist and are not "native" to any reality). It doesn't apply to the triad of Sora/Kairi/Riku though -- namely because all 3 are, as base humans, inherently creatures of Light. However, there is a sliding scale of how much darkness each one has in their hearts and how effective they are at using it: Kairi is pure Light, Riku is the ''most'' Dark but still bearing light, and Sora is Between the two of them.
** Further, the triptych of "Light/Darkness/Twilight" works for Creatures of the Realm of Light (complete people), Creatures of the Realm of Darkness (Pureblood Heartless), and Creatures of Neither (Nobodies, who were never supposed to exist and are not "native" to any reality). It doesn't apply to the triad of Sora/Kairi/Riku though -- namely because all 3 are, as base humans, inherently creatures of Light. However, there is a sliding scale of how much darkness each one has in their hearts and how effective they are at using it: Kairi is pure Light, Riku is the ''most'' Dark but still bearing light, and Sora is Between the two of them.
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** The other element to consider is the nature of the Nobodies' involvement in [=KH2=]. In Days and flashbacks in 2, it's clear that Organization were already working towards their goals prior to and during the events of [=KH1=], but were a covert operation biding their time. Their intervention at the start of [=KH2=] was initially to recapture Roxas and clean up loose end to their plans, and when that failed, it was clear that Riku, Namine, Mickey and [=DiZ=]'s efforts to restore Sora and undermine the Organization were about to blow the lid on their whole operation. Combine that with Ansem no longer whipping up the Heartless into a frenzy on all worlds, and add a dash of "we need someone with a Keyblade to slaughter Heartless to make our artificial Kingdom Hearts". It was only ''then'' that it was in their better interests to go public, and "make this journey memorable."
* Perhaps it doesn't fully violate the rule but shouldn't Jafar not have been able to make genie attack Sora for the first part of the boss fight as genie might have killed Sora by accident in the process?
* Perhaps it doesn't fully violate the rule but shouldn't Jafar not have been able to make genie attack Sora for the first part of the boss fight as genie might have killed Sora by accident in the process?
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** Jafar's wish for the Genie was to "Crush them." Jafar [[LiteralGenie never explicitly wished]] for Genie to kill anyone, and the Genie's rules don't say he can't be asked to ''fight'' on his master's behalf as long as he doesn't use his powers to kill, which is semi-evidenced by Genie not really ''trying'' to defeat them (he swings wide to say he put the requested effort in, but many of his attacks are easily avoided). Presumably the "no wishing for killing" rule is supposed to prevent Genies from carrying out Death Note-style instant assassinations, anyway.
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** The End of the World is made up of fragments of worlds whose hearts the Heartless consumed, including Destiny Islands. The statement is made that defeating Ansem will cause the worlds the Heartless consumed to be restored, including the people on them. We only get to see Kairi teleporting (due to how rare it is for people to survive having their worlds destroyed by the Heartless, and how close Sora was to Destiny Islands' fragment while fighting Ansem), but it's probable that any other survivors were also vacuumed over to it as part of the World Restoration process.
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*** More specifically, Heartless are the darkness within a heart manifesting as a living prison around the rest of the heart. Which also hints to why the Keyblade -- able to open ''any'' lock -- is the only way to release hearts from the grip of the Heartless.
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* I've never played this before, and I asked some friends of mine who did about it, and, I have to ask, do the later games really eschew the Disney elements to the point that they're just ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' [[MyFriendsAndZoidBerg with]] MickeyMouse shoehorned in? That's what they said happened, and it kinda tarnishes the novel idea of a Disney/FF crossover if one overtakes the other.
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* I've never played this before, and I asked some friends of mine who did about it, and, I have to ask, do the later games really eschew the Disney elements to the point that they're just ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' [[MyFriendsAndZoidBerg with]] MickeyMouse WesternAnimation/MickeyMouse shoehorned in? That's what they said happened, and it kinda tarnishes the novel idea of a Disney/FF crossover if one overtakes the other.
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** It allows for an IncrediblyLamePun in Birth by Sleep, with the X-Blade (that X is the Greek letter Chi, so it's pronounced "Ky-blade", not "Ecks-blade"). Though I'm sure that Square didn't have that in mind when they made the first game, since BBS had probably not even been conceived yet.
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** It allows for an IncrediblyLamePun a {{Pun}} in Birth by Sleep, with the X-Blade (that X is the Greek letter Chi, so it's pronounced "Ky-blade", not "Ecks-blade"). Though I'm sure that Square didn't have that in mind when they made the first game, since BBS had probably not even been conceived yet.
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*** You're right. [[IncrediblyLamePun Nobody could replace Gaston.]] [[DontExplainTheJoke His name was Xaldin.]]
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*** You're right. [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} Nobody could replace Gaston.]] [[DontExplainTheJoke His name was Xaldin.]]
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**By my knowledge, Nobodies aren't created every time a heartless appears, and it's only when someone with a powerful 'soul' succumbs to dakness. Additionally, most of the heartless encountered are artificial, created without the whole process of taking a heart
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* When you defeat Jafar's human form in Agrabah and go to Jasmine, Aladdin says that you should save her later and focus on fighting Genie!Jafar instead. But can't Aladdin just save Jasmine himself and leave fighting Genie!Jafar to Sora and co.? Gameplay wise, I understand why this wasn't the case; it would remove your ability to use Aladdin in the boss battle against Genie!Jafar. But why doesn't he think about this in the plot? Not only would he have finally saved Jasmine like he wanted to since the Pot Scorpion battle, but it would've prevented Maleficent from getting her hands on her, therefore preventing her from opening the final keyhole. This seemed like a really dumb move on Aladdin's part.
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* When you defeat Jafar's human form in Agrabah and go to Jasmine, Aladdin says that you should save her later and focus on fighting Genie!Jafar instead. But can't Aladdin just save Jasmine himself and leave fighting Genie!Jafar to Sora and co.? Gameplay wise, I understand why this wasn't the case; it would remove your ability to use Aladdin in the boss battle against Genie!Jafar. But why doesn't he think about this in the plot? Not only would he have finally saved Jasmine like he wanted to since the Pot Scorpion battle, but it would've prevented Maleficent from getting her hands on her, therefore preventing her from opening the final keyhole. This seemed like a really dumb move on Aladdin's part.part.
** There could be any number of reasons. Perhaps Aladdin thought Jafar would chase after them if he took Jasmine and ran. Perhaps Aladdin didn’t want to leave his friends to fight an empowered Jafar on their own, since he really isn’t the type to leave his friends in a pinch.
** There could be any number of reasons. Perhaps Aladdin thought Jafar would chase after them if he took Jasmine and ran. Perhaps Aladdin didn’t want to leave his friends to fight an empowered Jafar on their own, since he really isn’t the type to leave his friends in a pinch.
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** I got the impression that abilities are able to be given directly to someone like an item. When Sora receives Dodge Roll, Donald prompts Goofy by telling him to "give him that other thing." This seems to suggest that Goofy handed Sora the ability as though it were somehow a tangible thing that could be passed to another person, rather than physically teaching him to be able to perform the roll. Furthermore, Sora then says abilities are useful and that they should "keep an eye out for them," which seems to further suggest that abilities are somehow just laying around and able to be picked up. Also, when Cloud gives Sora the Sonic Blade ability, the cutscene shows him physically dropping something into Sora's hand. It doesn't make a lot of sense, especially since most abilities are gained by leveling up rather than being found, but that was how I interpreted it.
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** I got the impression that abilities are able to be given directly to someone like an item. When Sora receives Dodge Roll, Donald prompts Goofy by telling him to "give him that other thing." This seems to suggest that Goofy handed Sora the ability as though it were somehow a tangible thing that could be passed to another person, rather than physically teaching him to be able to perform the roll. Furthermore, Sora then says abilities are useful and that they should "keep an eye out for them," which seems to further suggest that abilities are somehow just laying around and able to be picked up. Also, when Cloud gives Sora the Sonic Blade ability, the cutscene shows him physically dropping something into Sora's hand. It doesn't make a lot of sense, especially since most abilities are gained by leveling up rather than being found, but that was how I interpreted it.it.
*When you defeat Jafar's human form in Agrabah and go to Jasmine, Aladdin says that you should save her later and focus on fighting Genie!Jafar instead. But can't Aladdin just save Jasmine himself and leave fighting Genie!Jafar to Sora and co.? Gameplay wise, I understand why this wasn't the case; it would remove your ability to use Aladdin in the boss battle against Genie!Jafar. But why doesn't he think about this in the plot? Not only would he have finally saved Jasmine like he wanted to since the Pot Scorpion battle, but it would've prevented Maleficent from getting her hands on her, therefore preventing her from opening the final keyhole. This seemed like a really dumb move on Aladdin's part.
*When you defeat Jafar's human form in Agrabah and go to Jasmine, Aladdin says that you should save her later and focus on fighting Genie!Jafar instead. But can't Aladdin just save Jasmine himself and leave fighting Genie!Jafar to Sora and co.? Gameplay wise, I understand why this wasn't the case; it would remove your ability to use Aladdin in the boss battle against Genie!Jafar. But why doesn't he think about this in the plot? Not only would he have finally saved Jasmine like he wanted to since the Pot Scorpion battle, but it would've prevented Maleficent from getting her hands on her, therefore preventing her from opening the final keyhole. This seemed like a really dumb move on Aladdin's part.
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** I got the impression that abilities are able to be given directly to someone like an item. When Sora receives Dodge Roll, Donald prompts Goofy by telling him to "give him that other thing." This seems to suggest that Goofy handed Sora the ability as though it were somehow a tangible thing that could be passed to another person, rather than physically teaching him to be able to perform the roll. Furthermore, Sora then says abilities are useful and that they should "keep an eye out for them," which seems to further suggest that abilities are somehow just laying around and able to be picked up. It doesn't make a lot of sense, especially since most abilities are gained by leveling up rather than being found, but that was how I interpreted it.
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* Goofy is heavily implied to have taught Sora Dodge Roll. Why can't he Dodge Roll?
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** I got the impression that abilities are able to be given directly to someone like an item. When Sora receives Dodge Roll, Donald prompts Goofy by telling him to "give him that other thing." This seems to suggest that Goofy handed Sora the ability as though it were somehow a tangible thing that could be passed to another person, rather than physically teaching him to be able to perform the roll. Furthermore, Sora then says abilities are useful and that they should "keep an eye out for them," which seems to further suggest that abilities are somehow just laying around and able to be picked up. It doesn't make a lot of sense, especially since most abilities are gained by leveling up rather than being found, but that was how I interpreted it.
** I got the impression that abilities are able to be given directly to someone like an item. When Sora receives Dodge Roll, Donald prompts Goofy by telling him to "give him that other thing." This seems to suggest that Goofy handed Sora the ability as though it were somehow a tangible thing that could be passed to another person, rather than physically teaching him to be able to perform the roll. Furthermore, Sora then says abilities are useful and that they should "keep an eye out for them," which seems to further suggest that abilities are somehow just laying around and able to be picked up. It doesn't make a lot of sense, especially since most abilities are gained by leveling up rather than being found, but that was how I interpreted it.
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** The fact that so many games later we still can't agree on what the heck they are says loads about the story-telling abilities of this franchise.
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*** Soo, what'd happen if they wound up in the ''WesternAnimation/{{Zootopia}}'' universe, where (as far as we know, at least) the only anthropomorphized beings are mammals? Sora (and possibly Goofy) would be fine, but what'd happen to Donald? Would he be turned into some sort of mammal (a platypus, perhaps?) or remain as a duck? I know that the creators have stated that anthro nonmammals ''might'' exist in that universe, but it doesn't seem like they've done anything with that idea...
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* A friend of mine thinks that Creator/SquareEnix needs to stop making Kingdom Hearts games. When I expressed my disagreement, he explained that each installment just muddies up the story making it more and more confusing (never mind the fact that said friend is a huge StarWars fan, need I say more about their confusing storyline?), he also doesn't like that they keep adding ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' characters and [[{{Retcon}} retconning]] their back-stories to fit in the KH storyline. When I told him that ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' is a different continuity from the ''Franchise/FinalFantasy'' games and that none of the interactions between FF and Creator/{{Disney}} characters is meant to be {{Canon}} to their respective stories, he dismissed it as me being the only one to say that. The problem is that I say that because I remember reading it somewhere on the [[http://kingdomhearts.wikia.com/wiki/Kingdom_Hearts_Wiki Kingdom Hearts Wiki]]. Can anyone else back me up on this?
** You are indeed correct. Perhaps you could direct your friend in the direction of the wiki?
** I agree with your friend that the story with each passing game is getting more and more confusing, but the Final Fantasy characters aren't and never have been the same versions as from their respective games. Your friend must have gotten so confused by the other stuff in the series that he missed out on an obvious detail.
** Hey how about you tell him that in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' Luke Skywalker teaches the three main protagonists how to swing a keyblade. I am dead serious. And otherwise I cant disagree with him. Especially the sidegames like VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories and 362/2 Days make it really confusing to go from Kingdom Hearts to Kingdom Hearts II. Its like Square is milking the story while it is alive. But lets see after KH3Ds if it finally ends. Then again... I really like too know what happend. Also if they did a KH:MMORPG playing in the Keylade-wars would be awesome.
** You are indeed correct. Perhaps you could direct your friend in the direction of the wiki?
** I agree with your friend that the story with each passing game is getting more and more confusing, but the Final Fantasy characters aren't and never have been the same versions as from their respective games. Your friend must have gotten so confused by the other stuff in the series that he missed out on an obvious detail.
** Hey how about you tell him that in ''VideoGame/KingdomHeartsBirthBySleep'' Luke Skywalker teaches the three main protagonists how to swing a keyblade. I am dead serious. And otherwise I cant disagree with him. Especially the sidegames like VideoGame/KingdomHeartsChainOfMemories and 362/2 Days make it really confusing to go from Kingdom Hearts to Kingdom Hearts II. Its like Square is milking the story while it is alive. But lets see after KH3Ds if it finally ends. Then again... I really like too know what happend. Also if they did a KH:MMORPG playing in the Keylade-wars would be awesome.
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*** And in ''The Little Mermaid'', Triton was shown as an overprotective abuser who needed to see the error of his ways, so he's not meant to be in the right. Since he destroyed the thing that would have revealed the keyhole, it drove Ariel into Ursula's clutches and nearly doomed the world completely. In all events, meddling yields good results, so maybe Donald isn't meant to be taken at face value.
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** Or maybe since Hades gave the ticket, it was enchanted so that Phil couldn't refuse Sora entry if he read it?
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** Perhaps making the wish still counted, even if it wasn't fulfilled.
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** Maybe Jiminy's world was among the first to be destroyed, and he first ended up in Traverse Town but hitched a ride that brought him to Disney Castle?
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* Exactly why and how did Jiminy even get to Disney Castle in the first place? Others games establish that when someone loses their world they end up in Traverse Town, like Pinocchio, so shouldn't Jiminy have ended up in Traverse Town as well?
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* Exactly why and how did Jiminy even get to Disney Castle in the first place? Others games establish that when someone loses their world they end up in Traverse Town, like Pinocchio, so shouldn't Jiminy have ended up in Traverse Town as well?well?
*Goofy is heavily implied to have taught Sora Dodge Roll. Why can't he Dodge Roll?
*Goofy is heavily implied to have taught Sora Dodge Roll. Why can't he Dodge Roll?
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* So... why is there only 1 wish left for Genie to grant Aladdin after defeating Jafar? The first wish was to get rid of the Heartless, and the second wish was to help Jasmine... which Genie never actually did because Jafar stole the lamp from Aladdin before he could actually do it. There should be 2 left.
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* So... why is there only 1 wish left for Genie to grant Aladdin after defeating Jafar? The first wish was to get rid of the Heartless, and the second wish was to help Jasmine... which Genie never actually did because Jafar stole the lamp from Aladdin before he could actually do it. There should be 2 left.left.
* Exactly why and how did Jiminy even get to Disney Castle in the first place? Others games establish that when someone loses their world they end up in Traverse Town, like Pinocchio, so shouldn't Jiminy have ended up in Traverse Town as well?
* Exactly why and how did Jiminy even get to Disney Castle in the first place? Others games establish that when someone loses their world they end up in Traverse Town, like Pinocchio, so shouldn't Jiminy have ended up in Traverse Town as well?
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* If meddling isn't allowed, why the hell does Mickey send DonaldDuck & Goofy? How the hell doesn't anyone from a world where only humans can talk, question the fact that there are suddenly talking animals?
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* If meddling isn't allowed, why the hell does Mickey send DonaldDuck WesternAnimation/DonaldDuck & Goofy? How the hell doesn't anyone from a world where only humans can talk, question the fact that there are suddenly talking animals?
