History Headscratchers / GuiltyGear

* Is Sol's Instant Kill in ''Xrd'', ''Branding Breach,'' supposed to be him using the Saint Oratorio function of his weapon? It's mentioned in the game's glossary and every other piece of expanded material regarding the ''Junkyard Dog'' that Sol designed his new weapon as a combination of two parts of the Outrage that can change into a form capable of firing the supposed superweapon "''Saint Oratorio''". Before performing the attack he does transform it a bit, and the background changes to a barren, flaming wasteland, which fits the "great damage to the target and user" description the Oratorio has. The only real discrepancy I can think of is that it's also considered a long-range weapon, but It wouldn't be out of the ordinary for Sol to get right up in someone's face unnecessarily.

*** As revealed in Revelator, "That Man"'s real name is Asuka R. Kreutz. He is called 'That Man' by Sol because it's a way to dehumanize the object of Sol's vengeance, which in turn makes it easier for Sol, since he ''was'' Sol and Aria's colleague in the Gear Project. The rest follow suit because they don't know Asuka's name; Asuka and Raven play along because they don't care to correct the cast, plus Asuka has more important matters like stopping Justice from reviving and wrecking shit.

* In Overture, what exactly is [[spoiler:Diva!]]Valentine referring to when she yells "You Weren't Here!" While the majority of her dialogue is just anger-fueled yelling directed primarily at Sol, this particular line seems a bit incoherent. The only guess I could make outside of a possible translation error is that maybe it has something to do with [[spoiler: inheriting memories from Aria upon transforming into a large fortress-like Gear]], and is akin to her saying something along the lines of "You weren't here/there for me" however this is completely conjecture. After all she's hardly anything resembling sane by this point but at least the rest of her statements make sense in context, which is why the meaning of this line continues to allude me.

* In Overture, what exactly is Diva!Valentine referring to when she yells "You Weren't Here!" While the majority of her dialogue is just anger-fueled yelling directed primarily at Sol, this particular line seems a bit incoherent. The only guess I could make outside of a possible translation error is that maybe it has something to do with inheriting memories from Aria upon transforming into a large fortress-like Gear, and is akin to her saying something along the lines of "You weren't here/there for me" however this is completely conjecture. After all she's hardly anything resembling sane by this point but at least the rest of her statements make sense in context, which is why the meaning of this line continues to allude me.

** Justice's armor is largely implied to not be part of her actual anatomy (for instance, I-No's quote for her in ''AC+'' mentions something along the lines of tearing off her shell), although it could simply be an extension of shapeshifting powers similar to what Dizzy demonstrates (one example of this is Justice's leg turning into what appears to be a three-pronged blade when performing her air Kick). As for the infamous crotchspike, here's something many seem to have not considered: Gears are essentially MixAndMatchCritters when it comes to their physiology, as various animal genes are thrown into the mix (this can be seen in Sol's Gear form, a humanoid dragon with a crustacean-like exoskeleton). Seeing as Justice, a Commander Gear and the first one at that, was the queen bee/queen ant of the Gears during The Crusades, that protrusion between Justice's legs [[ShownTheirWork is likely an ovipositor]], which goes a long way is possibly explaining how Justice gave birth to Dizzy.

** Faust also diagnoses Axl's time-slipping in one of the paths in Guilty Gear X+'s story mode, so his knowledge seems to surpass mundane medicine.

* The Holy Knights are a (para?)-military organization, and Sol's a {{Main/Jerkass}}. Why did Ky, as his superior, put up with him at all? Sure, Sol's competent as all hell, but why didn't he end up court-marshalled or dishonorably discharged for sassing back and generally being a loose cannon and a slacker?
** Sol can [[Main/PersonOfMassDestruction set cities on fire when he's in a bad mood.]] Go ahead and court-martial him. I'll be right over here. On another continent.

* What is a gear exactly? Is it a biological humanoid imbued with special powers? Or are they all artificial/mechanical androids like Robo-Ky? Or can a gear be either, only defined by their powers? I used to think of "gear" as a word for mecha, but none of them look like miniature mecha aside from the suit worn by Justice, who wages war on humanity, implying they're not human. So are they biological genetic constructs that don't count as human, biological constructs with android parts, androids with biological parts, or are none of them biological at all?

** Gear refers to evolution, hence "The Missing Link." In the GG universe, the Gears were originally meant to be the next step in human evolution. Instead they became weapons of war.
* Followup question: just what ''are'' Eddie and Angra? They're never described as gears, which seems supported by them not going catatonic following Justice's death, but they're described as "similar" to gears...
** They're Forbidden Beasts. Not a lot of information has been explicitly revealed, but what is known so far is that they're magical in nature and the product of forbidden rituals (even Slayer strongly condemns them after noticing Millia's hair in his story in #R) available certain members of the Assassin's Guild. The ritual apparently involves giving up something precious to receive power in the form of the Forbidden Beast. Zato-1 gave up his eyesight and gained Eddie. It has yet to be canonically stated what Millia gave up to get Angra.
*** When Eddie comes across Dizzy in story mode (I forget who's), he mentions that Forbidden Beasts are, on some level, the enemy of Gears. I always got the impression they were a sort of 'sentient summon' like Testament's succubus familiar. As for Millia, a mix of subtext and fanon is that she gave up her womb, or something similar (her frequent references to 'a maiden's purity' in her quotes among other things)
**** Re: Millia: in her GGXX Ending I (I think), Slayer warns Millia that "that hair is alive", and Millia replies that she is quite aware of this. In Ending II, Millia worries that she has been overusing her power (presumably Angra), but claims that she is not "like [Zato] yet." In other words, Angra, like Eddie, may be capable of taking over its user/host, or at least influence his/her actions or thoughts. Millia may or may not have been forced to sacrifice something during the Angra ritual (remember, she was coerced into joining the Assassins' Guild in the first place), but AFAIK, '''no''' in-game content corroborates the theory that it involved her virginity or anything... below the belt. ''Jam'' is the one with the "A maiden's purity" quote (said when falling victim to Faust's Shigeteki Zetsumei Ken/Stimulating Death Fist), and Millia's GGXX Ending III line about Zato having "stained her" (or "dirtied [her] soul") is, given the circumstances, most likely ''not'' a metaphor for physical defloration.

* what was with Sol's story route in AC+ where he fights his past self, his past self gets killed and yet he survives anyway? Not only that but what was the point of that plot thread if it's never mentioned again? You would think Sol would be a LITTLE concerned about being alive despite his past self dying.

* Every single time a character uses the contrived, awkward device of referring to the creator of the gears as "That Man", and nothing else. Why? Do they actually not know who he is, or is it just a transparent attempt to keep his identity hidden from the player? Unless "That Man" is his actual name, ''people do not talk that way.''

** For Sol its okay since his sword is as sharp as a bread knife and won't probably hurt anyone if he doesn't add his fire element.
*** [[RuleOfCool Because Sol is Badass]]

* I have a problem with with the ending music in Accent Core+. It just seems too inconsistent. We get the "okay" ending when Potemkin dies, but the "bad" ending music when May goes traveling with Anji? How does that work?

* Is Justice mechanical, or is she just wearing {{Powered Armor}}? Sometimes it seems to be implied that she's just wearing a suit, but if you look at her proportions, there's no way a person could fit in there. And if that is actually her body, why the crotchspike? Seriously.

* Can Dizzy really be Sin's mother? Wasn't it said that Sin's half-gear and isn't Dizzy a half-gear herself?

* The repeated description I've seen of Sol Badguy as a "Marty Stu, done right" bugs me to no end, mostly because it's a complete oxymoron. Even if he has stu-ish traits (a lot of plot focus, favorite character of Daisuke Ishiwatari, who also voices him, etc.) and is a good character nonetheless, then he's ''not'' a Stu. Having Sue traits doesn't automatically make a Sue character.
** Which of course gets even better when Daisuke has stated in an interview that Eddie is his favorite character. Sol is neither a Marty Stu nor done particulary right.
** If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
*** With that description, it's more like "looks like a duck, walks like a duck, barks like a dog."
** In ''Overture'', Sol fleshed out, and steers away from both Marty Stu and being a generic Jerkass. He mentors Sin in magical arts, appears to show more of his roots as a Magitek founder, and it appears his centuries of fighting has made him a troubled human being. Also he doesn't exactly have female characters throwing themselves at him. Rather, he still misses Aria, and Valentine's presence rubs salt in the wound every time he's near her. And nearly all his endings in the franchise are downers.

* It has always bugged me that Bridget is the most popular character from the series. Sure, he's [[DroppedABridgetOnHim the ultimate example of The Trap]], but in the series, he's not even a secondary character. He's a minor character who doesn't even appear until Guilty Gear XX and has almost no impact on the plot.
** Welcome to the wonderful world of [[Main/EnsembleDarkhorse ensemble darkhorses]]. Although, really...how many of the characters are actually important to the plot in general? His main role was being duped into tracking down Chipp, Baiken, and some others for the PWAB, so he's at least a small part of plot number three.
** You also should note that technically, Justice was teh original GG trap, though of the reverse kind
** What Guilty Gear fans have you been talking to. Easily the most popular character is Sol Badguy. This is coming from someone who's favourite is Bridget by the way. There's not many of his fans around, and if they are it's because he's [[EstrogenBrigadeBait estrogen brigade bait]] and they're your typical fangirls. Not to mention most of the knowledge of him is due to 4chan who happen to be making fun of him, not praising his character.

* I just wish they would put the first couple of games out on a compilation disk already. How hard can it be to fit a couple onto one disk?

** In ''Overture'', Sol fleshed out, and steers away from both Marty Stu and being a generic Jerkass. He mentors Sin in magical arts, appears to show more of his roots as a Magitek founder, and it appears his centuries of fighting has made him a troubled human being. Also he doesn't exactly have female characters throwing themselves at him. Rather, he still misses Aria, and Valentine's presence rubs salt in the wound every time he's near her.

** Ugh... this is an example on how assumptions confuse people. Sin is never stated as a half-Gear, but rather, described as a "child with the blood/genes of a Gear." So his fractions isn't officially 50-50.

** Which of course gets even better when Daisuke has stated in an interview that Eddie is his favorite character. Sol is neither a Marty Stu nor done particulary right. SoYeah.

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