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** [[WordOfGod According to the author yes,]] but I always took it to mean something like, "Now that you know what happened, it's important that you don't forget it so hopefully this sort of thing will never happen again."

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** [[WordOfGod According to the author yes,]] but [[DeathOfTheAuthor I always took it to mean mean]] something like, "Now that you know what happened, it's important that you don't forget it so hopefully this sort of thing will never happen again."
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!!The "rainy day fund"


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!!The Ending
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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic--and it's also implied that their mother had health troubles, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of that.]] Even if Seita started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not understand all the fine details that seem evident to older teens and adults. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot--while most teenagers learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]

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** [[RealityEnsues [[SurprisinglyRealisticOutcome He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic--and it's also implied that their mother had health troubles, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of that.]] Even if Seita started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not understand all the fine details that seem evident to older teens and adults. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot--while most teenagers learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]
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*** Keep in mind that despite how it may look, 3000 yen isn't actually that much. It's about the equivalent of $28 in today's currency, and when you consider how expensive food is and how much young children need to eat to stay healthy (particularly during wartime when everything is rationed), it's not surprising that Seita would want to hang on to it for as long as he could in case he couldn't find anything else.

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*** Keep in mind that despite how it may look, the value of the yen ''cratered'' as a result of the war and subsequent surrender, with 3000 yen isn't actually that much. going from being worth thousands of dollars initially, to thousands of ''cents'' in the end. It's about the equivalent of $28 in today's currency, currency (having stabilized in the vicinity of 100 yen to the dollar after bottoming out at a little over 300 to the dollar in the early 1970s), and when you consider how expensive food is and how much young children need to eat to stay healthy (particularly during wartime when everything is rationed), it's not surprising that Seita would want to hang on to it for as long as he could in case he couldn't find anything else.

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3000 yen conversion rate and Word of God about the end of the film


** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic--and it's also implied that their mother had health troubles, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of that.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not understand all the fine details that seem evident to older teens and adults. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot--while most teenagers learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]

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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic--and it's also implied that their mother had health troubles, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of that.]] Even if Seita's Seita started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not understand all the fine details that seem evident to older teens and adults. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot--while most teenagers learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]]]
*** Keep in mind that despite how it may look, 3000 yen isn't actually that much. It's about the equivalent of $28 in today's currency, and when you consider how expensive food is and how much young children need to eat to stay healthy (particularly during wartime when everything is rationed), it's not surprising that Seita would want to hang on to it for as long as he could in case he couldn't find anything else.


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** [[WordOfGod According to the author yes,]] but I always took it to mean something like, "Now that you know what happened, it's important that you don't forget it so hopefully this sort of thing will never happen again."
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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic--and it's also implied that their mother had health troubles, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of that.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not properly understand all the fine details that seem evident to older teens and adults. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot--while most teenagers need to learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]

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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic--and it's also implied that their mother had health troubles, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of that.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not properly understand all the fine details that seem evident to older teens and adults. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot--while most teenagers need to learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]
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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic--and it's also implied that their mother had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of her health.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not properly understand all the fine details. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot--while most teenagers need to learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]

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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic--and it's also implied that their mother had heart troubles since she needs medication, health troubles, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of her health.that.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not properly understand all the fine details.details that seem evident to older teens and adults. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot--while most teenagers need to learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]
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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic about it--and it's also implied that their mother had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of her health.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not properly understand all the fine details. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot, because while most teenagers need to learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]

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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because they'll panic about it--and panic--and it's also implied that their mother had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of her health.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not properly understand all the fine details. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot, because while CreditCardPlot--while most teenagers need to learn how to stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]
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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still unconsciously think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because kids panic about it, and it's also implied that their mother had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of her health.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not properly understand all the fine details. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot, because while most teenagers need to learn how to STOP spending money, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and may be terrified of SPENDING money, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]

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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still unconsciously think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because kids they'll panic about it, and it--and it's also implied that their mother had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of her health.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not properly understand all the fine details. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot, because while most teenagers need to learn how to STOP spending money, stay within their means, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and he may be unconsciously terrified of SPENDING money, spending money AT ALL, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]
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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still unconsciously think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because kids panic about it. It's also implied that their mother already had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of her health.]]

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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still unconsciously think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of their kids ''specifically'' because kids panic about it. It's it, and it's also implied that their mother already had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of her health.]] Even if Seita's started to handle money in a basic "can we afford this?" way before the raids happened, he may not properly understand all the fine details. This is basically the opposite of the CreditCardPlot, because while most teenagers need to learn how to STOP spending money, Seita got hit with a war that caused his mother's death and may be terrified of SPENDING money, [[TearJerker even for an emergency.]]
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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still unconsciously think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of the kids ''specifically'' because kids panic about it. It's also implied that their mother already had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk about money on top of her health.]]

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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still unconsciously think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of the their kids ''specifically'' because kids panic about it. It's also implied that their mother already had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk to Seita about money on top of her health.]]
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** [[RealityEnsues He's also fourteen years old]] and may still unconsciously think that dealing with money is what ADULTS are supposed to do. A lot of parents avoid talking about money problems in front of the kids ''specifically'' because kids panic about it. It's also implied that their mother already had heart troubles since she needs medication, so [[TearJerker she wouldn't have wanted to talk about money on top of her health.]]
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*** I took it that, odds are, his mother didn't have much money in her bank account to begin with and that he only withdrew the funds when things got especially dire.

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*** I took it that, odds are, his mother didn't have much money in her bank account to begin with and that he only withdrew the funds when things got especially dire.dire.
* What's the purpose of the final shot, of Seita and Setsuko's spirits sitting on a bench that overlooks 1980's-era Kobe? I can guess something along the lines of "Today's generation will likely never know their pain firsthand"?
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*** I took it that, odds are, his mother didn't have much money in her bank account to begin with.

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*** I took it that, odds are, his mother didn't have much money in her bank account to begin with.with and that he only withdrew the funds when things got especially dire.
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** He could have wanted the money for just such an emergency. He also thought that his father was coming home and either didn't want to spend the entirety of their savings before he returned until a crisis forced his hand or at least wanted to make the money last as long as possible, stealing to supplement what food they could buy without spending it all at once.

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** He could have wanted the money for just such an emergency. He also thought that his father was coming home and either didn't want to spend the entirety of their savings before he returned until a crisis forced his hand or at least wanted to make the money last as long as possible, stealing to supplement what food they could buy without spending it all at once.once.
***I took it that, odds are, his mother didn't have much money in her bank account to begin with.
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* Why did Seita wait so long to get the rest of the money out of his mother's account? He's stealing from his neighbors, risking his life dashing out during raids, watching as his sister gets sicker, all the while he has 3000 yen just sitting there collecting interest.

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* Why did Seita wait so long to get the rest of the money out of his mother's account? He's stealing from his neighbors, risking his life dashing out during raids, watching as his sister gets sicker, all the while he has 3000 yen just sitting there collecting interest.interest.
** He could have wanted the money for just such an emergency. He also thought that his father was coming home and either didn't want to spend the entirety of their savings before he returned until a crisis forced his hand or at least wanted to make the money last as long as possible, stealing to supplement what food they could buy without spending it all at once.
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Why did Seita wait so long to get the rest of the money out of his mother's account? He's stealing from his neighbors, risking his life dashing out during raids, watching as his sister gets sicker, all the while he has 3000 yen just sitting there collecting interest.

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* Why did Seita wait so long to get the rest of the money out of his mother's account? He's stealing from his neighbors, risking his life dashing out during raids, watching as his sister gets sicker, all the while he has 3000 yen just sitting there collecting interest.
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