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The actual God of War 3 game.


** Um, because Zeus is ''the ruler of all the gods'' maybe? I dare say he's a lot more powerful than Athena.

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** Um, because Zeus is ''the ruler of all the gods'' maybe? I dare say he's a lot more powerful than Athena.Athena.
* After Kratos [[spoiler: kills Helios, the sun is blocked by clouds and it starts raining.]] In the Icarus Ascension (where you're flying in a vent), you meet up with Perses, that lava titan, [[spoiler: and he attacks you. You stab him in the eye with the Blade of Olympus and continue flying upward.]] In that entire sequence, [[spoiler: it was perfectly sunny and not raining. The next time you see the outside at the top of Olympus, it's dark and raining again.]] What's up with that?
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* In ''God of War II'', how come Zeus survived when Kratos fought him, slashed him repeatedly, battered him around, blasted him, impaled him, slashed him some more, and impaled him some more for good measure... and then Athena dies (spectacularly, at that!) when Kratos ''accidentally'' impales her? You know it's bad when the freaking ''gods'' are MadeOfPlasticine.

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* In ''God of War II'', how come Zeus survived when Kratos fought him, slashed him repeatedly, battered him around, blasted him, impaled him, slashed him some more, and impaled him some more for good measure... and then Athena dies (spectacularly, at that!) when Kratos ''accidentally'' impales her? You know it's bad when the freaking ''gods'' are MadeOfPlasticine.MadeOfPlasticine.
** Um, because Zeus is ''the ruler of all the gods'' maybe? I dare say he's a lot more powerful than Athena.
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** How nice would ''you'' be to someone who was killing off every member of your family? Also, they're the gods; phenomenal cosmic ego is kind of part and parcel. Unless you're [[IsntItSad Hestia,]] it probably goes something like "Oh, I'm SO much smarter / shrewder / better than (insert dead god's name here)!!"

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** How nice would ''you'' be to someone who was killing off every member of your family? Also, they're the gods; phenomenal cosmic ego is kind of part and parcel. Unless you're [[IsntItSad [[DemotedToExtra Hestia,]] it probably goes something like "Oh, I'm SO much smarter / shrewder / better than (insert dead god's name here)!!"
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* If the Flame of Olympus can kill any mortal or god that touches it, why did Kratos even bother with the whole Pandora's Box deal and just chuck Zeus into the flames? Or if Zeus was immune to the flames, why didn't Kratos use Zeus's arm (either shoving him into the box or hacking the arm off and working from there) to open the box?

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* If the Flame of Olympus can kill any mortal or god that touches it, why did Kratos even bother with the whole Pandora's Box deal and just [[KillItWithFire chuck Zeus into the flames? flames]]? Or if Zeus was immune to the flames, why didn't Kratos use Zeus's arm (either shoving [[PeoplePuppets arm-locking him into pushing the box lid off the box]] or [[AnArmAndALeg hacking the arm off and working from there) there]]) to open the box?
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*** I'm inclined to agree with this theory. It also explains how come Hercules acted like some petulant ten-year-old kid, smashing Kratos around and then immediately turning to Hera (his sort-of mother figure) for acknowledgment.



** Zeus ''did'' kill him. All we see of Past-Kratos is Future-Kratos pulling the Blade of Olympus out of him. After Zeus and Kratos bolted for the final arena, Past-Kratos got dragged down to Tartarus by those hands, just like from the beginning. Kratos probably didn't see himself because he was unconscious.
** Also, with the Sisters of Fate dead, time probably doesn't work like you'd think it would.



** I saw it as more of the same principle as the [[StarWars Obi Wan Kenobi]] trick. Because she sacrificed herself for a higher purpose, she reached something of a god-nirvana, transcending mortality itself. Unfortunately, due to her [[TheOtherDarrin change in voice actor]], I couldn't shake the idea that this wasn't actually the Athena from the previous two games, but someone else altogether. (Considering the [[AfterTheEnd state of the world at the end of the game]], isn't that Eris' MO?) Sheesh, too much of God of War III demands a sequel explaining ''what the blue hell just happened''.



So, going by that, Athena couldn't have removed the white mark, and none of the gods could have just removed the nightmares either.

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So, going by that, Athena couldn't have removed the white mark, and none of the gods could have just removed the nightmares either.either.
* If the Flame of Olympus can kill any mortal or god that touches it, why did Kratos even bother with the whole Pandora's Box deal and just chuck Zeus into the flames? Or if Zeus was immune to the flames, why didn't Kratos use Zeus's arm (either shoving him into the box or hacking the arm off and working from there) to open the box?
* In ''God of War II'', how come Zeus survived when Kratos fought him, slashed him repeatedly, battered him around, blasted him, impaled him, slashed him some more, and impaled him some more for good measure... and then Athena dies (spectacularly, at that!) when Kratos ''accidentally'' impales her? You know it's bad when the freaking ''gods'' are MadeOfPlasticine.
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** This always bugged me, too. Kratos was even killing ''the Titans'' without need for the power in that box. I was just ''anticipating'' the moment when he'd open the box and [[spoiler:find it empty.]]
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** And besides, only the vegetation in ''her'' garden dies. That makes more sense, if it were only for her plants.

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*** Oh yeah? I didn't know that Greece housed the 99% of the people in the world......

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*** Oh yeah? I didn't know that Greece housed the 99% of the people in the world......
world...... and besides I never said it was a happy ending. Rather, this is the closest thing to a happy ending that it has, but is still grimy.



** Thanatos is more like the "personification" of Death, not exactly Death itself. Since people still die in the sequels (II and III) it's safe to assume that Thanatos wasn't vital to the world.



** This sorta goes back to the original Greek myths. Gods had a lot of powers, but one thing they explicitly could ''not'' do was reverse something that had already happened. Like Orpheus, for example. He was blinded by Hera for siding with Zeus in a disagreement[[hottip:*:If you're curius, Zeus and Hera were debating who has more pleasure during sex. Hera said guys do, Zeus said women. They asked Orpheus, who had [[GenderBender been turned into a woman earlier in life]], and he said he had more fun as a woman.]]. Zeus (though it might've been Hera in a moment of remorse, I can't remember just at the moment) felt sorry for the guy but couldn't restore his sight, and so gave him the power of prophecy instead.\\\

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** This sorta goes back to the original Greek myths. Gods had a lot of powers, but one thing they explicitly could ''not'' do was reverse something that had already happened. Like Orpheus, for example. He was blinded by Hera for siding with Zeus in a disagreement[[hottip:*:If you're curius, Zeus and Hera were debating who has more pleasure during sex. Hera said guys do, Zeus said women. They asked Orpheus, Tyresias, who had [[GenderBender been turned into a woman earlier in life]], and he said he had more fun as a woman.]]. Zeus (though it might've been Hera in a moment of remorse, I can't remember just at the moment) felt sorry for the guy but couldn't restore his sight, and so gave him the power of prophecy instead.\\\
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*** Oh yeah? I didn't know that Greece housed the 99% of the people in the world......
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** She also said something like "Only you can forgive yourself".

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** She also said something like "Only you can forgive yourself".yourself".
** This sorta goes back to the original Greek myths. Gods had a lot of powers, but one thing they explicitly could ''not'' do was reverse something that had already happened. Like Orpheus, for example. He was blinded by Hera for siding with Zeus in a disagreement[[hottip:*:If you're curius, Zeus and Hera were debating who has more pleasure during sex. Hera said guys do, Zeus said women. They asked Orpheus, who had [[GenderBender been turned into a woman earlier in life]], and he said he had more fun as a woman.]]. Zeus (though it might've been Hera in a moment of remorse, I can't remember just at the moment) felt sorry for the guy but couldn't restore his sight, and so gave him the power of prophecy instead.\\\
So, going by that, Athena couldn't have removed the white mark, and none of the gods could have just removed the nightmares either.

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*** Typical idiot thought process: 99% of everyone died, 1% lived, yay happy ending.



** Great, another mini-discussion about time traveling paradoxes. It's not like we don't have enough of those already.



** Why did Kratos go after the box anyways? He already beat Zeus at the end of the second game without it.



* So in God of War we learn that Kratos is white because Ares stuck the ashes of Kratos's family onto him as punishment for murdering them, to mark his sins. At the END of God of War Athena absolves Kratos's sins so surely that means his skin should go back to normal, he should no longer have to wear that mark?

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* So in God of War we learn that Kratos is white because Ares stuck the ashes of Kratos's family onto him as punishment for murdering them, to mark his sins. At the END of God of War Athena absolves Kratos's sins so surely that means his skin should go back to normal, he should no longer have to wear that mark?mark?
** She also said something like "Only you can forgive yourself".
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* Word of God stated that what ever gods were in the games were the gods they wanted in the story, so if none of the others are there its because they didn't find any use for them.
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* Kratos killed Thanatos, Death itself, so how in Olympus's name is he able to kill the other gods, or anyone really, with DEATH dead?

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* Kratos killed Thanatos, Death itself, so how in Olympus's name is he able to kill the other gods, or anyone really, with DEATH dead?dead?
* So in God of War we learn that Kratos is white because Ares stuck the ashes of Kratos's family onto him as punishment for murdering them, to mark his sins. At the END of God of War Athena absolves Kratos's sins so surely that means his skin should go back to normal, he should no longer have to wear that mark?
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* I seem to remember that the Spartans are the descendants of Hercules. So why in God of War 3 Hercules claims he was doing the 12 Labors, the quest that made him a legend, during the events of God of War 1 when he already done it before Sparta was founded?

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* I seem to remember that the Spartans are the descendants of Hercules. So why in God of War 3 Hercules claims he was doing the 12 Labors, the quest that made him a legend, during the events of God of War 1 when he already done it before Sparta was founded?founded?
* Kratos killed Thanatos, Death itself, so how in Olympus's name is he able to kill the other gods, or anyone really, with DEATH dead?
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* I seem to remember that the Spartans are the descendants of Hercules. So why in God of War 3 Hercules claims he was doing the 12 Labors, the quest that made him a legend, during the events of God of War 1 when he already done it before Sparta was founded?

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** Well.... at least he put the base for a better world: the Titans and the Gods (except the "Positive ones" are gone, all of the dangerous monsters and undead that plagued the land are no more and the few surviving humans have now the power of Hope and can start a new life. Besides, not even the Gods were nice guys: Have you ever seen a God ''saving a mortal'' in this series?

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** Well.... at least he put the base for a better world: the Titans and the Gods (except the "Positive ones" ones") are gone, all of the dangerous monsters and undead that plagued the land are no more and the few surviving humans have now the power of Hope and can start a new life. Besides, not even the Gods were nice guys: Have you ever seen a God ''saving a mortal'' in this series?



** I personally think that Morpheus was executed by the gods after his attempt to TakeOverTheWorld in ''Chain of Olympus''. About the others, they may have survived, or have been killed offscreen by Titans, Zeus or by the fall of Mount Olympus.



** Maybe Athena, as Goddess of Wisdom and ''Lore'' knew a proper "trick" in order to come back as a shadow. And About Gaia, it seems you missed the part after Poseidon's defeat: after falling from Olympus she ''clearly told Kratos'' that he was just a mere useless pawn for the Titans and that they no longer needs his help and let him fall to his death into River Styx. And Remember that before that, Kratos trusted her as a reliable ally. And after all this crap, she found her wounded and begging him for mercy after basically calling him a "piece of shit". Kratos' reaction is understandable.

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** Maybe Athena, as Goddess of Wisdom and ''Lore'' knew a proper "trick" in order to come back as a shadow. And About Gaia, it seems you missed the part after Poseidon's defeat: after falling from Olympus she ''clearly told Kratos'' that he was just a mere useless pawn for the Titans and that they no longer needs his help and let him fall to his death into River Styx. And Remember that before that, Kratos trusted her as a reliable ally. And after all this crap, she found her wounded and begging him for mercy after basically calling him a "piece of shit". Kratos' reaction is understandable.understandable.
* Now, a serious question: I know that things have changed quite a lot during the preparation of the games, but why Hades (the location) ''keeps changing over and over'' in each game! Look at River Styx! It was a bloody swamp in Chains, I and II and then in III it becomes a black soul-infested river. Sob.
* Similar to the rant above, why the Domain of Death in ''Ghost of Sparta'', despite being the home of the most feared creature in the universe (Thanatos) looks so... earthly! I mean, look at it! It just look like a foggy castle with spiked chains, huge plants and not-so-otherwordly traps!

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** Well.... at least he put the base for a better world: the Titans and the Gods (except the "Positive ones" are gone, all of the dangerous monsters and undead that plagued the land are no more and the few surviving humans have now the power of Hope and can start a new life. Besides, not even the Gods were nice guys: Have you ever seen a God ''saving a mortal'' in this series?




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** The Giant Scorpion may be the one Artemis sent to kill Orion the Hunter. So, she "appears" somehow.




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** Unlikely, Demeter herself is mentioned in one of the games...



** Dudes, Size has nothing to do with age. For example, this troper was the youngest and tallest student of his class. Sure, Hercules is indeed a giant of a man, but maybe he's younger than it looks. Or Maybe Perseus, as Demigod, aged far more slowly than mortals.



** Maybe they liked the sound of the name?



* So in the end of God of War 2, you go back in time and sucker punch Xeus when he was killing you. Does that mean that in the current timeline (That God of War 3 takes place in) that God of War 2 didn't happen? So Perseus, The Kraken, Sisters of Fate etc etc are all still alive? And for that matter, who fought Zeus, the past Kratos or the Kratos we control throughout the game?
* Is it just me or did the plot get stupider in GOW 3? The worst moment for me is when Athena comes back as a god-ghost, or super-god, or something. Try looking someone in the eye and telling them that makes perfect sense. It also raises plenty of problems. Why don't ''other'' gods come back as god-ghosts? Kratos also goes from being a somewhat understandable character to a mindless murderer. For instance, he pointlessly attacks Gaia even though she is offering help against Zeus, which is what he should want. The real reason for all this is easy enough to see. It's written into Kratos' contract by this point that he has to kill everyone. Athena comes back as a god-ghost so that she can tell Kratos that Zeus must die and make killing him seem more appropriate. Other gods don't come back because otherwise Kratos couldn't kill them. Kratos attacks Gaia because he is supposed to attack ''everyone'' now. Comparing the third game to the much more intelligible plot of the first is rather disappointing, I find.

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** I think so, the one in II was the Primordial Fire that Prometheus stole to Hephaestus and brought to the mortals.
* So in the end of God of War 2, you go back in time and sucker punch Xeus Zeus when he was killing you. Does that mean that in the current timeline (That God of War 3 takes place in) that God of War 2 didn't happen? So Perseus, The Kraken, Sisters of Fate etc etc are all still alive? And for that matter, who fought Zeus, the past Kratos or the Kratos we control throughout the game?
* Is it just me or did the plot get stupider in GOW 3? The worst moment for me is when Athena comes back as a god-ghost, or super-god, or something. Try looking someone in the eye and telling them that makes perfect sense. It also raises plenty of problems. Why don't ''other'' gods come back as god-ghosts? Kratos also goes from being a somewhat understandable character to a mindless murderer. For instance, he pointlessly attacks Gaia even though she is offering help against Zeus, which is what he should want. The real reason for all this is easy enough to see. It's written into Kratos' contract by this point that he has to kill everyone. Athena comes back as a god-ghost so that she can tell Kratos that Zeus must die and make killing him seem more appropriate. Other gods don't come back because otherwise Kratos couldn't kill them. Kratos attacks Gaia because he is supposed to attack ''everyone'' now. Comparing the third game to the much more intelligible plot of the first is rather disappointing, I find.find.
** Maybe Athena, as Goddess of Wisdom and ''Lore'' knew a proper "trick" in order to come back as a shadow. And About Gaia, it seems you missed the part after Poseidon's defeat: after falling from Olympus she ''clearly told Kratos'' that he was just a mere useless pawn for the Titans and that they no longer needs his help and let him fall to his death into River Styx. And Remember that before that, Kratos trusted her as a reliable ally. And after all this crap, she found her wounded and begging him for mercy after basically calling him a "piece of shit". Kratos' reaction is understandable.

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* Is it just me or did the plot get stupider in GOW 3? The worst moment for me is when Athena comes back as a god-ghost, or super-god, or something. Try looking someone in the eye and telling them that makes perfect sense. It also raises plenty of problems. Why don't ''other'' gods come back as god-ghosts?
Kratos also goes from being a somewhat understandable character to a mindless murderer. For instance, he pointlessly attacks Gaia even though she is offering help against Zeus, which is what he should want. Why? I'll tell you why. It's written into Kratos' contract by this point that he has to kill everyone. Athena comes back as a god-ghost so that she can tell Kratos that Zeus must die and make killing him seem more appropriate. Other gods don't come back because otherwise Kratos couldn't kill them. Kratos attacks Gaia because he has to attack ''everyone'' now to please the fans.

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* Is it just me or did the plot get stupider in GOW 3? The worst moment for me is when Athena comes back as a god-ghost, or super-god, or something. Try looking someone in the eye and telling them that makes perfect sense. It also raises plenty of problems. Why don't ''other'' gods come back as god-ghosts?
god-ghosts? Kratos also goes from being a somewhat understandable character to a mindless murderer. For instance, he pointlessly attacks Gaia even though she is offering help against Zeus, which is what he should want. Why? I'll tell you why.The real reason for all this is easy enough to see. It's written into Kratos' contract by this point that he has to kill everyone. Athena comes back as a god-ghost so that she can tell Kratos that Zeus must die and make killing him seem more appropriate. Other gods don't come back because otherwise Kratos couldn't kill them. Kratos attacks Gaia because he has is supposed to attack ''everyone'' now to please now. Comparing the fans.third game to the much more intelligible plot of the first is rather disappointing, I find.

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Kratos also goes from being a somewhat understandable character to a mindless murderer. For instance, he pointlessly attacks Gaia even though she is offering help against Zeus, which is what he should want.
Why? I'll tell you why. It's written into Kratos' contract in this game that he has to kill everyone. Everything else, like consistency and believability takes a back seat. Athena comes back as a god-ghost so that she can tell Kratos that Zeus must die and make killing him seem more appropriate. Other gods don't come back because otherwise Kratos couldn't kill them. Kratos attacks Gaia because he has to attack ''everyone'' now to please the fans.

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Kratos also goes from being a somewhat understandable character to a mindless murderer. For instance, he pointlessly attacks Gaia even though she is offering help against Zeus, which is what he should want.
want. Why? I'll tell you why. It's written into Kratos' contract in by this game point that he has to kill everyone. Everything else, like consistency and believability takes a back seat.everyone. Athena comes back as a god-ghost so that she can tell Kratos that Zeus must die and make killing him seem more appropriate. Other gods don't come back because otherwise Kratos couldn't kill them. Kratos attacks Gaia because he has to attack ''everyone'' now to please the fans.
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* So in the end of God of War 2, you go back in time and sucker punch Xeus when he was killing you. Does that mean that in the current timeline (That God of War 3 takes place in) that God of War 2 didn't happen? So Perseus, The Kraken, Sisters of Fate etc etc are all still alive? And for that matter, who fought Zeus, the past Kratos or the Kratos we control throughout the game?

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* So in the end of God of War 2, you go back in time and sucker punch Xeus when he was killing you. Does that mean that in the current timeline (That God of War 3 takes place in) that God of War 2 didn't happen? So Perseus, The Kraken, Sisters of Fate etc etc are all still alive? And for that matter, who fought Zeus, the past Kratos or the Kratos we control throughout the game?game?
* Is it just me or did the plot get stupider in GOW 3? The worst moment for me is when Athena comes back as a god-ghost, or super-god, or something. Try looking someone in the eye and telling them that makes perfect sense. It also raises plenty of problems. Why don't ''other'' gods come back as god-ghosts?
Kratos also goes from being a somewhat understandable character to a mindless murderer. For instance, he pointlessly attacks Gaia even though she is offering help against Zeus, which is what he should want.
Why? I'll tell you why. It's written into Kratos' contract in this game that he has to kill everyone. Everything else, like consistency and believability takes a back seat. Athena comes back as a god-ghost so that she can tell Kratos that Zeus must die and make killing him seem more appropriate. Other gods don't come back because otherwise Kratos couldn't kill them. Kratos attacks Gaia because he has to attack ''everyone'' now to please the fans.
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* So in the end of God of War 2, you go back in time and sucker punch zeus when he was killing you. Does that mean that in the current timeline (That god of war 3 takes place in) that god of war 2 didn't happen? So Perseus, The Kraken, Sisters of Fate etc etc are all still alive?

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* So in the end of God of War 2, you go back in time and sucker punch zeus Xeus when he was killing you. Does that mean that in the current timeline (That god God of war War 3 takes place in) that god God of war War 2 didn't happen? So Perseus, The Kraken, Sisters of Fate etc etc are all still alive?alive? And for that matter, who fought Zeus, the past Kratos or the Kratos we control throughout the game?
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** It could have been some strange effect of the island manipulating time.
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* "The power to forgive lies within yourself." Seriously? Does that mean that I can also murder my family, slaughter countless innocents and nearly destroy the world, and still find redemption at the end? SERIOUSLY?
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* After reading the above complaints, something occurred to me. To open Pandora's Box, one must sacrifice Pandora to the Flames of Olympus surrounding it so they vanish. Why were said flames not coating the box in the first game? Also, in the second game, you have to drop Prometheus into what are referred to as the Fires of Olympus. Why are they not only a different color than the FLAMES of Olympus, but in an entirely different location?

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* After reading the above complaints, something occurred to me. To open Pandora's Box, one must sacrifice Pandora to the Flames of Olympus surrounding it so they vanish. Why were said flames not coating the box in the first game? Also, in the second game, you have to drop Prometheus into what are referred to as the Fires of Olympus. Why are they not only a different color than the FLAMES of Olympus, but in an entirely different location?location?
** simmilar names but different flames?
*So in the end of God of War 2, you go back in time and sucker punch zeus when he was killing you. Does that mean that in the current timeline (That god of war 3 takes place in) that god of war 2 didn't happen? So Perseus, The Kraken, Sisters of Fate etc etc are all still alive?
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* In GOW III, Hephaestus explains how he hid Pandora's significance from Zeus, and it seems the other olympians were also unaware of her purpose, and thought her only a quaint plaything of Hephaestus'. If this was case, and they were unaware of her connection to the box, WHY was it named after her, and housed in a temple also bearing her name?

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* In GOW III, Hephaestus explains how he hid Pandora's significance from Zeus, and it seems the other olympians were also unaware of her purpose, and thought her only a quaint plaything of Hephaestus'. If this was case, and they were unaware of her connection to the box, WHY was it named after her, and housed in a temple also bearing her name?name?
* After reading the above complaints, something occurred to me. To open Pandora's Box, one must sacrifice Pandora to the Flames of Olympus surrounding it so they vanish. Why were said flames not coating the box in the first game? Also, in the second game, you have to drop Prometheus into what are referred to as the Fires of Olympus. Why are they not only a different color than the FLAMES of Olympus, but in an entirely different location?
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** Because the devs decided [[DidNotDoTheResearch research is for dorks]].

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** Because the devs decided [[DidNotDoTheResearch research is for dorks]].dorks]].
*In GOW III, Hephaestus explains how he hid Pandora's significance from Zeus, and it seems the other olympians were also unaware of her purpose, and thought her only a quaint plaything of Hephaestus'. If this was case, and they were unaware of her connection to the box, WHY was it named after her, and housed in a temple also bearing her name?
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* If Hercules is Perseus's great grandson, how come Hercules is clearly older than him?

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* If Hercules is Perseus's great grandson, how come Hercules is clearly older than him?him?
** Because the devs decided [[DidNotDoTheResearch research is for dorks]].
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* If Hercules is Perseus's great grandson, how come Hercules is clearly older than him?
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*** Because Athena was talking about it like there was still something in there, and he figured she knew best. Besides, not being really big anymore, he probably believed as she did that the power from the Box had returned to it.


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** By sailing to the Isle of Creation instead of to the island next to it that Kratos had the misfortune of landing on. Kratos had to get past Theseus to bring the two islands together so he could reach the Isle of Creation, but someone who just sailed to the Isle and scaled the cliffs wouldn't have the same problem.

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