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** Afton's case is possibly due to the fact he died when Spring Bonnie was in suit mode. Meaning IF Spring Bonnie had a vocal system in the first place it wouldn't be active (and might even be beyond repair at this point) Baby's case seems to be pointing towards a common theory that A soul and an animatronic's soul intertwine when together for an undisclosed amount of time. It's quite possible that Baby's inhabitant has gone insane from everything thats happened.
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* Why does Afton speak with his own voice (except modified and deeper, more of a GutteralGrowler) as Springtrap when Baby sounds the same despite the fact that she appears to have Elizabeth's personality now? Also, ''why'' does she have Elizabeth's personality now when in the last game she spoke of the two as though they were completely different people? And what made her snap and go crazy and desire to be a killer when before that's exactly what she ''didn't'' want but was forced into?
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* Why does Afton speak with his own voice (except modified and deeper, more of a GutteralGrowler) as Springtrap when Baby sounds the same despite the fact that she appears to have Elizabeth's personality now? Also, ''why'' does she have Elizabeth's personality now when in the last game she spoke of the two as though they were completely different people? And what made her snap and go crazy and desire to be a killer when before that's exactly what she ''didn't'' want but was forced into?
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*** Chances are, Henry ''did'' design the first few generations, but Afton altered them. It's never made clear (because it's FNAF, practically nothing is clear) but I always figured the tampering came with the disappearance of the day shift guard to disable the criminal database. After all, it never says what ''kind'' of database it is, it's not necessarily limited to convicts. It wouldn't surprise me to find out they were using a database of mugshots and wanted posters.
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*** Lefty wasn't made to kidnap children, it was made specifically to get the Marionette. Henry knew his daughter was possessing it and wanted to give her the same peace and freedom.
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*** Lefty wasn't made to kidnap children, it was made specifically to get the Marionette. Henry knew his daughter was possessing it and wanted to give her the same peace and freedom. FridgeBrilliance also kicks in when you realize how spindly and physically weak the Puppet probably is compared to the rest of the malevolent animatronics - he wanted to give his daughter some way to fight back if she ever encountered someone like, say, Springtrap by accident.
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** Alright then I'll admit my mistake. I was under the heavy impression that all of the animatronic's prior were mostly designed and programmed by Henry. Especially considering that I highly doubt Willy A would feel comfortable with a criminal database in robots hes helped design on the (Unlikely) chance he already has a criminal record.
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** Alright then I'll admit my mistake. I was under the heavy impression that all of the animatronic's prior by which i mean the first incarnations of the Fazfour (whom were implied to be upgraded between 2 and 1) and possibly the Toy's were mostly designed and programmed by Henry. Especially considering that I highly doubt Willy A would feel comfortable with a criminal database in robots hes helped design on the (Unlikely) chance he already has a criminal record.
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** Alright then I'll admit my mistake. I was under the heavy impression that all of the animatronic's prior were mostly designed and programmed by Henry. Especially considering that I highly doubt Willy A would feel comfortable with a criminal database in robots hes helped design on the (Unlikely) chance he already has a criminal record.
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***Also keep in mind that near 200 degree heat... that was what the temperature gauge in your office was reading. The one place where there was supposed to be an escape route from, the place that would be the slowest to burn/heat up when Cassette Guy put his plan in action. It is possible that outside your office things are getting even hotter.
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*** They're ''all'' Afton's lot, with possible the exceptions of the Marionette, which we now know existed before the first murder, and the original Fredbear. The rest were either made by Afton or altered by him (Or made by his creations, ie Ennard). It's never made explicitly clear what the actual effect of having a soul does for the AI, but the Funtime generation were deliberately designed to kidnap children by Afton himself. Keep in mind that up until Sister Location, the animatronics were exactly that: animatronics, simple robots that have (admittedly very sophisticated) simple abilities. They can follow sound, move within a pre-rendered map space that limits them to the property, and they sure as shit can get violent, but of all the actual animatronics (ie, not Springtrap, who had a human mind the entire time, and the Marionette, whose programming limitations were different and discontinued), the only ones that have true artificial intelligence are the ones introduced in Sister Location and Pizzeria Simulator. The rest are basically just given human motivation while still being limited by their programming. The easiest way to tell them apart is that except for Springtrap (human) and the Marionette (not limited to a map), only the animatronics with full artificial intelligence are capable of leaving their home building under their own power, and they're the only ones who can actually speak beyond one or two pre-recorded phrases.
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** I was moreso talking about all the other animatronics. I.e the ones intended to entertain and not kill. Aftons lot are a no brainer on weather they comply or not
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*** Not to put too fine a point on it, but exactly what about the premise of "crazy roboticist builds animatronics to capture and kill children" makes you think they were ''ever'' intended to comply with Asimov's laws?
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*** Lefty wasn't made to kidnap children, it was made specifically to get the Marionette. Henry knew his daughter was possessing it and wanted to give her the same peace and freedom.
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** Molten Freddy is Ennard and also holding five of the original six children's souls captive. Ballora, Funtime Freddy, and Funtime Foxy go up in flames along with Baby, William, Puppet, Michael, and Henry.
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** So after all is said and done... we know the majority of the animatronics were haunted by several kids, and one even by their own murderer, but does that leave Ballora, Funtime Freddy and Ennard.. and possibly the Toy animatronics to just be... random evil AI? I mean I know it's a game, but at least a vengeful spirit controlling what would be a normal animatronic makes more sense than Afton creating evil sentient machines.
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** The toys were implied to be tampered with As well as supposedly having a glitch in their face recognition software. As for thd funtimes they were specifcially designed to be killers only their advanced AI supposedly made them aware enough to break programming and im pretty sure none of the robots comply to the 3 laws.
** The toys were implied to be tampered with As well as supposedly having a glitch in their face recognition software. As for thd funtimes they were specifcially designed to be killers only their advanced AI supposedly made them aware enough to break programming and im pretty sure none of the robots comply to the 3 laws.
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** So after all is said and done... we know the majority of the animatronics were haunted by several kids, and one even by their own murderer, but does that leave Ballora, Funtime Freddy and Ennard.. and possibly the Toy animatronics to just be... random evil AI? I mean I know it's a game, but at least a vengeful spirit controlling what would be a normal animatronic makes more sense than Afton creating evil sentient machines.
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** While that in of itself might not be enough to destroy any significant part of the animatronics, Cassette Guy ''intended'' for the place to burn down, so there could very well be a mix of accelerants and other chemicals in the walls that keep the fire burning at much higher temperatures, specifically so [[ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill there'd be nothing left of the animatronics he was trying to destroy.]]
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* The heat was reaching nearly 200 degrees. Plus we can assume that the maze is pretty much comprised of only Metal passageways. Heat conducts metal so 200 Degrees in such a closed off metallic space and your basically looking at a Huge Oven. Unlike Fazbears fright which could easily be escaped.
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* The heat was reaching nearly 200 degrees. Plus we can assume that the maze is pretty much comprised of only Metal passageways. Heat conducts metal so 200 Degrees in such a closed off metallic space and your basically looking at a Huge Oven. Unlike Fazbears fright which could easily be escaped.
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*I am no fire fighter, but HOW would a fire burn a bunch of animatronics? Considering that one of them survived a fire before.
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*** And who's to say that their beef with Baby didn't end the moment they kicked her out of their combined consciousness. It's hinted that Molten Freddy isn't just there to fulfill his(/their?) programming of being child killing machines - but that Springtrap and Baby might actually be using him(/them?) as a soul jar for the souls of the original five kids... or other children's souls. The Golden Ending includes Molten Freddy in his rant about giving up the souls that "don't belong to them" so he(/they?) have got something inside them they shouldn't.
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** [[spoiler: Some Blueprints from the Insane Ending seem to indicate that Lefty was designed the same way the Circus Baby Animatronics were - to lure and kidnap children. If that's the case, then the Puppet might have claimed Lefty not only as a disguise to get into the Pizzeria, but also in order to counteract Lefty's malevolent purpose. This would also explain why Lefty attacks you - the Puppet is thoroughly good this time, but is locked in a struggle for control with Lefty, who could very well kill you even with the Puppet fighting it.]]
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** With the implications that Cassette Guy possibly being [[spoiler:the game universes Henry (Whom Died by suicide before the 1990's in the Silver Eyes)]] [[spoiler: The logical conclusion is that The puppet's inhabitant is the Game's counterpart to Charlotte Whom outlived her old man in the books.]]
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*** I know you werent serious, but it cannot be a DeadlyEuphemism; If it was, why not just that instead of burning the place down?
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*** Ironic, isn't it? - Baby nearly saves all the Ennard animatronics by being thrown out! Baby is William Afton's daughter, Elizabeth, so if she ''had'' stayed in charge and they'd all come to the simulator Pizzeria all as one, there'd be ''one less animatronic'' around and it'd be easier to kill them off. By being a controlling control freak who was "a bit of a bother", she made it less likely that they'd all die and tha at least ''one'' of them would live...
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*** Ironic, isn't it? - Baby nearly saves all the Ennard animatronics by being thrown out! Baby is William Afton's daughter, Elizabeth, so if she ''had'' stayed in charge and they'd all come to the simulator Pizzeria all as one, there'd be ''one less animatronic'' around and it'd be easier to kill them off. By being a controlling control freak who was "a bit of a bother", she made it less likely that they'd all die and tha that at least ''one'' of them would live...
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* So what was the deal with the whole freak show thing anyway? These guys are all scraps, and as far as I know did not come from some freakshow. Everything seems to indicate that you're trying to run a legit kid friendly Fazbears resteraunt and not another 'Fazbear Fright'.
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* So what was the deal with the whole freak show thing anyway? These guys are all scraps, and as far as I know did not come from some freakshow. Everything seems to indicate that you're trying to run a legit kid friendly Fazbears resteraunt restaurant and not another 'Fazbear Fright'.
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* Who exactly is in the Puppet? Who is Cassette Guy's "daughter" (whether figuratively or literally)?
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** Considering that it seems that the restaurant and the area you are aren't connected; Fright was ment to be an attraction, a place you could evacuate. As others have said, the new place was designed for one purpose only. And besides, he might have just gotten lucky the first time, it's like managing to survive certain death makes you invulnerable or anything.
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** Considering that it seems that the restaurant and the area you are in aren't connected; Fright was ment to be an attraction, a place you could evacuate. As others have said, the new place was designed for one purpose only. And besides, he might have just gotten lucky the first time, it's not like managing to survive certain death makes you invulnerable or anything.
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** Considering that it seems that the restaurant and the area you are aren't connected; Fright was ment to be an attraction, a place you could evacuate. As others have said, the new place was designed for one purpose only. And besides, he might have just gotten lucky the first time, it's like managing to survive certain death makes you invulnerable or anything.
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** I'm pretty sure that it's the latter. Although knowing Scott, I wouldn't be surprised if putting a certain combination of toppings triggered the [[spoiler:Insane ending]]. Who would ever put X in a pizza?!
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** I always assumed he was just wearing bandages all over. He could pass himself off as a burn victim. Which would make this game ironic.
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** It should also be noted that, in the case of the Fazbear's Fright fire, there was minimal to no control over its effectiveness. If it was an accident, then nobody was controlling it and Springtrap could easily escape. If it ''was'' a planned arson by the Night Guard to destroy him, keep in mind that the Night Guard would have to simultaneously commit the arson AND deal with surviving Springtrap at the same time. That kind of stress could easily throw off one's mental state rather severely, and without any proper planning to trap him Springtrap wouldn't have a hard time escaping that either. Cassette Guy, on the other hand, kept Springtrap in a thoroughly sealed and trapped location where there would be no escape from the fire.
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** Honestly the way i see it is that she does have good intentions. For '''Children''' any '''Children'''. Any adults regardless of reason are the enemy making enemy. Making it entirely possibly she would even attack [[spoiler: her own father]] if she ever found him.
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* Honestly the way i see it is that she does have good intentions. For '''Children''' any adults regardless of reason are the enemy making it entirely possibly she would even attack [[spoiler: her own father]] if she ever found him.
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