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*** It was stated several times that it's permanent loss/destruction was an acceptable outcome. First, when the minister asked how deep the water was, it was stated the water was not deep enough, meaning recovery was not impossible, so they had to undertake it. Second, Bond mentions the ATAC technician apparently hadn't had time to blow it up, himself. That's why Bond's' "detente" line to Gogol made no sense. He succeeded and Gogol failed. There was no stalemate.
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** I imagine that destroying it was a last resort (it ''is'' presumably an expensive and useful piece of equipment, after all) if it couldn't be recovered.
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** Simple overconfidence. He's got Bond locked in the back of an out-of-control helicopter in mid-flight, after all, he's not expecting Bond to turn the tables on him like that.
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* Was the vicar on Blofeld's side? I've always found his cross sign as Bond flew away a bit of a coincidence.
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* Was the vicar on Blofeld's side? I've always found his cross sign as Bond flew away a bit of a coincidence.coincidence.
** Possibly. He ''was'' the one who informed Bond of the helicopter's arrival.
** Possibly. He ''was'' the one who informed Bond of the helicopter's arrival.
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof unescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond beg for his life - ironic, when he himself did it. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
* Was the vicar on Blofeld's side? I've aways found his cross sign as Bond flew away a bit of a coincidence.
* Was the vicar on Blofeld's side? I've aways found his cross sign as Bond flew away a bit of a coincidence.
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof unescapable" inescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond beg for his life - ironic, when he himself did it. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
* Was the vicar on Blofeld's side? I'veaways always found his cross sign as Bond flew away a bit of a coincidence.
* Was the vicar on Blofeld's side? I've
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* Bond dives underwater to meet Melina and update her on what he's learned about Cristatos. In returning to her ship, she removes her SCUBA tank and leaves it at the bottom of the ocean. Later in the film, it's available to save their lives. WHY WOULD SHE LEAVE IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
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* Bond dives underwater to meet Melina and update her on what he's learned about Cristatos.Kristatos. In returning to her ship, she removes her SCUBA tank and leaves it at the bottom of the ocean. Later in the film, it's available to save their lives. WHY WOULD SHE LEAVE IT THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE?
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond beg for his life - ironic, when he himself did it. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" unescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond beg for his life - ironic, when he himself did it. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond [[Main/Irony beg for his life]]. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond [[Main/Irony beg for his life]].life - ironic, when he himself did it. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond [[Irony beg for his life]]. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond [[Irony [[Main/Irony beg for his life]]. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond beg for his life. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond [[Irony beg for his life.life]]. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]]. He might even have wanted to hear Bond beg for his life. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally (that means [[JustBetweenYouAndMe alone]]) and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]].trap]]. That is also the answer to the question why he wasn't somewhere in cover - He was so damn sure nothing can go wrong. He might even have wanted to hear Bond beg for his life. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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** Because Blofeld [[WhyDontYouJustShootHim is not the kind of guy that would do that]]. It is simply not his MO (apart from the ending scene in OHMSS, where he was simply pissed off at Bond at the moment for crippling him). He wants to see Bond dead, but he wants to kill him personally and not before he [[ForTheEvulz frightens him with "foolproof inescapable" trap]]. He might even have wanted to hear Bond beg for his life. When he saw it was not going to happen, he decided to end it, but it was already too late for poor Blof...
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* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance, get ''himself'' a sniper rifle to shoot Bond while he's in the chopper, or even plant a bomb inside the helicopter so that it would explode while Bond was inside? He was the head of one of the most powerful/dangerous terrorist groups in the world, so you'd think he would have stuff like that leftover from the "glory days".
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* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance, get ''himself'' a sniper rifle to shoot Bond while he's in the chopper, or even plant a bomb inside the helicopter so that it would explode while Bond was inside? He was the head of one of the most powerful/dangerous terrorist groups in the world, so you'd think he would have stuff like that leftover from the "glory days".days".
* Was the vicar on Blofeld's side? I've aways found his cross sign as Bond flew away a bit of a coincidence.
* Was the vicar on Blofeld's side? I've aways found his cross sign as Bond flew away a bit of a coincidence.
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* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance, get ''himself'' a sniper rifle to shoot Bond while he's in the chopper, or even rig a bomb inside the helicopter so that it would explode while Bond was inside?
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* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance, get ''himself'' a sniper rifle to shoot Bond while he's in the chopper, or even rig plant a bomb inside the helicopter so that it would explode while Bond was inside?inside? He was the head of one of the most powerful/dangerous terrorist groups in the world, so you'd think he would have stuff like that leftover from the "glory days".
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* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance or to just get ''himself'' a sniper rifle to shoot Bond while he's in the chopper?
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* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance or to just distance, get ''himself'' a sniper rifle to shoot Bond while he's in the chopper?chopper, or even rig a bomb inside the helicopter so that it would explode while Bond was inside?
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* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance?
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* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance?distance or to just get ''himself'' a sniper rifle to shoot Bond while he's in the chopper?
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** Well, Q ''is'' always getting on him about not returning equipment in pristine condition...
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** Well, Q ''is'' always getting on him about not returning equipment in pristine condition...condition...
* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance?
* Blofeld's strategy of killing Bond involved flying him around in a remote-controlled helicopter which he operated from the safety...of a flat rooftop with nothing hiding him, with no weapons or guards to protect him in case something went wrong, and he's also crippled and bound to a wheelchair. Wouldn't it have been a lot less risky to just hire a sniper to kill Bond from a distance?
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*** This, but added to the fact that there was no reason to destroy it in the wreck. High-tech equipment costs money to build. At that point, he didn't know about the JIM diver coming for him, and once he got away from the JIM diver, he didn't have a chance. Not until Gogol arrived with a gunman did he have a choice between turning over the ATAC or getting killed or perhaps to TakeAThirdOption, which is what he did.
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*** This, but added to the fact that there was no reason to destroy it in the wreck. High-tech equipment costs money to build. At that point, he didn't know about the JIM diver coming for him, and once he got away from the JIM diver, he didn't have a chance. Not until Gogol arrived with a gunman did he have a choice between turning over the ATAC or getting killed or perhaps to TakeAThirdOption, which is what he did.did.
** Well, Q ''is'' always getting on him about not returning equipment in pristine condition...
** Well, Q ''is'' always getting on him about not returning equipment in pristine condition...
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** Well, the traditional Multiple Bond Theory idea is that ''is'' her grave - Lazenby-Bond is just [[TearJerker buried with her.]]
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** [[FridgeBrilliance It's not her grave at all. It's the grave of Moore's predecessor, the agent played by George Lazenby who took on the mantle of Bond, and he's paying his respects]].
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** Presumably he just never considered it and figured that he could simply grab the ATAC and run. His pause when Gogol arrived seems to indicate that he was unsure about whether or not to destroy the technology.
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** Presumably he just never considered it and figured that he could simply grab the ATAC and run. His pause when Gogol arrived seems to indicate that he was unsure about whether or not to destroy the technology.technology.
*** This, but added to the fact that there was no reason to destroy it in the wreck. High-tech equipment costs money to build. At that point, he didn't know about the JIM diver coming for him, and once he got away from the JIM diver, he didn't have a chance. Not until Gogol arrived with a gunman did he have a choice between turning over the ATAC or getting killed or perhaps to TakeAThirdOption, which is what he did.
*** This, but added to the fact that there was no reason to destroy it in the wreck. High-tech equipment costs money to build. At that point, he didn't know about the JIM diver coming for him, and once he got away from the JIM diver, he didn't have a chance. Not until Gogol arrived with a gunman did he have a choice between turning over the ATAC or getting killed or perhaps to TakeAThirdOption, which is what he did.
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** To be honest, this seemed obvious to me from the first time I saw it: It's a place marker. UnderwaterRuins are just like any other archaeological site - they must be examined inch by inch. Ultimately, Melina is an [[AdventurerArchaeologist archaeologist]], and those ruins are ''huge''. She's close enough to her boat that she has plenty of air, and in shallow enough water that she won't get the bends. So she's leaving something large enough both to be seen and that it won't drift away/be eaten by sharks or other fish by the time she comes back to pick up where she left off.
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** 1981. A deleted bit of dialogue (likely for Lawyer-Friendliness) has Blofeld explaining "I've been waiting 10 years for this day." What happened 10 years prior? "Diamonds Are Forever."
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** It's pretty hard to see how he could have done so in a way which a) made sure that it was destroyed and b) didn't risk his own and Melina's lives?
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** It's pretty hard to see how he could have done so in a way which a) made sure that it was destroyed and b) didn't risk his own and Melina's lives?lives?
** Presumably he just never considered it and figured that he could simply grab the ATAC and run. His pause when Gogol arrived seems to indicate that he was unsure about whether or not to destroy the technology.
** Presumably he just never considered it and figured that he could simply grab the ATAC and run. His pause when Gogol arrived seems to indicate that he was unsure about whether or not to destroy the technology.
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* Why didn't Bond destroy the ATAC while it was still in the wreck? His mission wasn't to recover the ATAC, it was to make sure nobody else did.did.
** It's pretty hard to see how he could have done so in a way which a) made sure that it was destroyed and b) didn't risk his own and Melina's lives?
** It's pretty hard to see how he could have done so in a way which a) made sure that it was destroyed and b) didn't risk his own and Melina's lives?
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** Didn't they say her mother was English in OHMSS?OHMSS?
* Why didn't Bond destroy the ATAC while it was still in the wreck? His mission wasn't to recover the ATAC, it was to make sure nobody else did.
* Why didn't Bond destroy the ATAC while it was still in the wreck? His mission wasn't to recover the ATAC, it was to make sure nobody else did.
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** Also, she didn't live in Portugal- she and her father happened to be there when they met Bond. In fact I think she was staying at a hotel. Her father is an international crime lord- its not a stretch that both of them lived in several places, so Draco probably wouldn't have a problem with her being buried there. The fact that Tracy is played by an English actress and speaks with an English accent might be enough to HandWave an explanation that she grew up in England, or spent a lot of time there, even if she isn't English by birth. More reason to bury her there.
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** Also, she didn't live in Portugal- she and her father happened to be there when they met Bond. In fact I think she was staying at a hotel. Her father is an international crime lord- its not a stretch that both of them lived in several places, so Draco probably wouldn't have a problem with her being buried there. The fact that Tracy is played by an English actress and speaks with an English accent might be enough to HandWave an explanation that she grew up in England, or spent a lot of time there, even if she isn't English by birth. More reason to bury her there.there.
** Didn't they say her mother was English in OHMSS?
** Didn't they say her mother was English in OHMSS?
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** Also, she didn't live in Portugal- she and her father happened to be there when they met Bond. In fact I think she was staying at a hotel. Her father is an international crime lord- its not a stretch that both of them lived in several places, so Draco probably wouldn't have a problem with her being buried there. The fact that Tracy is played by an English actress and speaks with an English accent might be enough to HandWave an explanation that she grew up in England, or spent a lot of time there, even if she isn't English by birth. More reason to bury her there.
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* Assuming that it is Blofeld (he's unnamed, presumably due to the copyright issues surrounding ''{{Thunderball}}''), when does the teaser for this film fall?
* Bond's wife Tracy lived in Portugal and she was killed there in ''OnHerMajestysSecretService''. Why was she buried in London?
* Bond's wife Tracy lived in Portugal and she was killed there in ''OnHerMajestysSecretService''. Why was she buried in London?
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* Bond's wife Tracy lived in Portugal and she was killed there in''OnHerMajestysSecretService''.''Film/OnHerMajestysSecretService''. Why was she buried in London?
* Bond's wife Tracy lived in Portugal and she was killed there in
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** Because she's Bond's wife, he's from London, and as her next of kin, he would have the rights to dictate where she would be buried.
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