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** I think it's a Japanese thing; martial arts schools (at least traditional ones, not "modern" arts like judo or karate) are often treated as heiritable property, and while the "successor" isn't the only one to practice the art, they are responsible for developing the curriculum and licensing others to teach, and have discretion to expel students. In the manga, Kenshiro and Falco (possibly others as well), occasionally use techniques called "ougi" (translated to "succession technique"), presumably these are secrets taught *only* to the successor of the art in question.
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* Okay, at first I thought there were some redeeming moments on Souther. But his entry (especially the Character Sheet) really made me doubt that and makes him look like a non-cowardly Jagi. Was he really like that? What's his [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pants]] that makes him likable? (That editor also think YukoGoto a fucked-up female fan because she happens to like Souther... Wow.)
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* Okay, at first I thought there were some redeeming moments on Souther. But his entry (especially the Character Sheet) really made me doubt that and makes him look like a non-cowardly Jagi. Was he really like that? What's his [[DracoInLeatherPants leather pants]] that makes him likable? (That editor also think YukoGoto Creator/YukoGoto a fucked-up female fan because she happens to like Souther... Wow.)
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** First, how does striking a pressure point make someone explode? Does the heart just pump blood in to the head untill they explode?
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** First, how does striking a pressure point make someone explode? Does the heart just pump blood in to the head untill until they explode?
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*** What the Fist does is manipulate your opponents chi. By striking their pressure points, you disrupt the bodys natural energy flow, and can manipulate it in a variety of ways, the explosion thing is just the most common one. Think of it as a kind of RealityWarper power revolving around nerves and cells.
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*** What the Fist does is manipulate your opponents opponent's chi. By striking their pressure points, you disrupt the bodys body's natural energy flow, and can manipulate it in a variety of ways, the explosion thing is just the most common one. Think of it as a kind of RealityWarper power revolving around nerves and cells.
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* The whole "one successor only" thing seems like a monumentally bad idea, yet EVERY ONE of the martial arts schools seem to use it. Considering that the majority of the fighters seen over the series are now dead, including all of the South Dipper practictioners, havent they basically doomed themselves to extincion?
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** I think the idea is that there can be more than one user of the style, but only one can be out in the field. Ken has no problem with Toki going around using their style since Toki uses sparingly, whereas Raoh and Jagi were abusing their style and had to be dealt with.
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** Souther has the same appeal as any other Draco In Leather Pants; he's hot, has a mildly sad backstory and drips a few crocodile tears before expiring. Fans of this kind of character dont care about the monstrous crimes they comitted because all they care about is their emotional attraction to the character. Sure, he essentially built a massive torture camp for kids, but they want to bone him so its okay.
* What bugs me is why almost all of the Nanto Roku-Seiken are playable in most games (Example: Shin, Souther, Rei and Yuda are in the PS2 game) and yet the Nanto Goshasei (Jyuza, Fudo, Shuren, Rihaku and Hyui) rarely are. I know Jyuza was playable in a SNES game and I could understand if Rihaku isn't playable since he wasn't shown to fight much but Jagi was playable in the PS2 game and beyond his Hokuto Rakan-Geki move, he hasn't shown much fighting ability in the source material. The Nanto Goshasei need more game time.
* What bugs me is why almost all of the Nanto Roku-Seiken are playable in most games (Example: Shin, Souther, Rei and Yuda are in the PS2 game) and yet the Nanto Goshasei (Jyuza, Fudo, Shuren, Rihaku and Hyui) rarely are. I know Jyuza was playable in a SNES game and I could understand if Rihaku isn't playable since he wasn't shown to fight much but Jagi was playable in the PS2 game and beyond his Hokuto Rakan-Geki move, he hasn't shown much fighting ability in the source material. The Nanto Goshasei need more game time.
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** Souther has the same appeal as any other Draco In Leather Pants; he's hot, has a mildly sad backstory and drips a few crocodile tears before expiring. Fans of this kind of character dont care about the monstrous crimes they comitted committed because all they care about is their emotional attraction to the character. Sure, he essentially built a massive torture camp for kids, but they want to bone him so its okay.
* What bugs me is why almost all of the Nanto Roku-Seiken are playable in most games (Example: Shin, Souther, Rei and Yuda are in thePS2 [=PS2=] game) and yet the Nanto Goshasei (Jyuza, Fudo, Shuren, Rihaku and Hyui) rarely are. I know Jyuza was playable in a SNES game and I could understand if Rihaku isn't playable since he wasn't shown to fight much but Jagi was playable in the PS2 [=PS2=] game and beyond his Hokuto Rakan-Geki move, he hasn't shown much fighting ability in the source material. The Nanto Goshasei need more game time.
* What bugs me is why almost all of the Nanto Roku-Seiken are playable in most games (Example: Shin, Souther, Rei and Yuda are in the
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*** What the Fist does is manipulate your opponents chi. By striking their pressure points, you disrupt the bodys natural energy flow, and can manipulate it in a variety of ways, the explosion thing is just the most common one. Think of it as a kind of RealityWarper power revolving around nerves and cells.
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** RuleOfDrama, it doesnt make sense in any logical world, but this is a world with magical kung fu and everyone not being dead after years in a nuclear hellscape, you kinda have to take their word for it.
* The whole "one successor only" thing seems like a monumentally bad idea, yet EVERY ONE of the martial arts schools seem to use it. Considering that the majority of the fighters seen over the series are now dead, including all of the South Dipper practictioners, havent they basically doomed themselves to extincion?
* The whole "one successor only" thing seems like a monumentally bad idea, yet EVERY ONE of the martial arts schools seem to use it. Considering that the majority of the fighters seen over the series are now dead, including all of the South Dipper practictioners, havent they basically doomed themselves to extincion?
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* The Land of Shura: Only one percent of males reach adulthood due to being required to kill the other 99%. How does this not lead to a complete population collapse and cause the whole kingdom to wither away?
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** Kenshiro is a compassionate man, while Raoh's ambition would override his feelings for an older brother that he never knew.
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* In the second part, it's told that Kenshiro can't save Asura because he can't defeat Hyo, his older brother. But why are they so sure that Raoh could defeat Kaioh, his older brother?
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* This one is two questions, both related to [[YourHeadAsplode Hokuto Shinken]]:
** First, how does striking a pressure point make someone explode? Does the heart just pump blood in to the head untill they explode?
** Second, why do so many pressure pints cause explosive death? When Kenshiro kills Sabato, he makes him smell like blood... and explode. When he kills Geira, he stops him from inhaling... and also makes him explode. When he kills Dante, he makes him walk forward into an active volcano... [[RuleOfThree and explode in midair]]. Why? What's the point of the other effects if they'll just explode anyway?
** First, how does striking a pressure point make someone explode? Does the heart just pump blood in to the head untill they explode?
** Second, why do so many pressure pints cause explosive death? When Kenshiro kills Sabato, he makes him smell like blood... and explode. When he kills Geira, he stops him from inhaling... and also makes him explode. When he kills Dante, he makes him walk forward into an active volcano... [[RuleOfThree and explode in midair]]. Why? What's the point of the other effects if they'll just explode anyway?
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** You forget that Souther is one of the inheritors of the South Dipper styles, and thus posseses the same kind of MadeOfIron abilities as Ken. Without being able to use Southers pressure points against him, Souther can just weather the blows, because his reverse biology means that he's basically brought Ken down to normal in regards to their fight.
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** Souther has the same appeal as any other Draco In Leather Pants; he's hot, has a mildly sad backstory and drips a few crocodile tears before expiring. Fans of this kind of character dont care about the monstrous crimes they comitted because all they care about is their emotional attraction to the character. Sure, he essentially built a massive torture camp for kids, but they want to bone him so its okay.
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*** Its also not unthinkable that some faction has set up shop in a salvaged oil rig somewhere ala MadMax 2. You just dont get to see it because its not something Kenshiro would care about.
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* Something about Kenshiro's first fight with Souther confuses me. When Kenshiro firsts tries to kill Souther, he uses the Hokuto Hyakuretsuken on him. And when that doesn't work tries ''again''. My question is, how was Souther able to just laugh that off? Even if he is "immune" (and by that I mean has a trick to defeat him) to Hokuto Shinken, shouldn't he have been somehwat injured by being punch 50+ times in the chest with enough force to ''wreck a tank''?
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* Something about Kenshiro's first fight with Souther confuses me. When Kenshiro firsts tries to kill Souther, he uses the Hokuto Hyakuretsuken on him. And when that doesn't work tries ''again''. My question is, how was Souther able to just laugh that off? Even if he is "immune" (and by that I mean has a trick to defeat him) to Hokuto Shinken, shouldn't he have been somehwat somewhat injured by being punch 50+ times in the chest with enough force to ''wreck a tank''?
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* Something about Kenshiro's first fight with Souther confuses me. When Kenshiro firsts tries to kill Souther, he uses the Hokuto Hyakuretsuken on him. And when that doesn't work tries ''again''. My question is, how was Souther able to just laugh that off? Even if he is "immune" (and by that I mean has a trick to defeat him) to Hokuto Shinken, shouldn't he have been somehwat injured by being punch 50+ times in the chest with enough force to ''wreck a tank''?
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**At the time, you could make the case that Rei wasn't in his right mind (just one episode before that, he was talking about eating mud until he found "the man with the seven scars") due to grief over the death of his parents and disappearance of his sister. His erratic behavior was clearly intended to put the idea in the heads of readers/viewers that he was a possible antagonist for Ken, before revealing that the man Rei was looking for was actually Jagi. An even bigger headscratcher in this case would be: having seen Mamiya in nothing but her panties, how did he not notice Yuda's brand on her skin until months later?
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**At the time Toki went on his "healing tour", he was already terminally ill with radiation poisoning. And for much of that time, both the true successor (Ken) and the false one (Raoh) were otherwise engaged. With Ryuken dead, it was Ken's call to make. He probably thought, why ruin what's left of Toki's life at a point when the world needed all the good men it could get. It should be pointed out that when Ken found out someone assumed to be Toki (actually, it was Amiba) was conducting experiments on people using Hokuto Shinken, he investigated immediately.
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* It's made a pretty big deal that Raoh refused to stop practicing Hokuto Shinken and so the fight of succession that needed to be and finally was settled at the end of the first half. There can only be on successor to Hokuto Shinken at a time, as is repeated a large amount of times. Those who aren't chosen MUST stop using the art, or else. But what about Toki? Sure, Toki isn't a hard ass BloodKnight going around killing people all in the name of conquering the world and instead used it to heal the sick, but he is still as bad as Raoh because he's using it when he's not supposed to. Say it's splitting hairs, but using Hokuto Shinken is using Hokuto Shinken no matter what you use it for. Sure, nobody really was going to kill him for using it despite not being the successor, but why does nobody ever mention that he shouldn't be using it?
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* It's made a pretty big deal that Raoh refused to stop practicing Hokuto Shinken and so the fight of succession that needed to be and finally was settled at the end of the first half. There can only be on successor to Hokuto Shinken at a time, as is repeated a large amount of times. Those who aren't chosen MUST stop using the art, or else. But what about Toki? Sure, Toki isn't a hard ass BloodKnight going around killing people all in the name of conquering the world and instead used it to heal the sick, but he is still as bad as Raoh because he's using it when he's not supposed to. Say it's splitting hairs, but using Hokuto Shinken is using Hokuto Shinken no matter what you use it for. Sure, nobody really was going to kill him for using it despite not being the successor, but why Why does nobody ever mention bother to question Toki's use of Hokuto Shinken when he isn't even supposed to be allowed to use it? It's supposed to be passed down from one father to one son. Kenshiro was the son to inherit, Raoh still used the fighting side of it to chase his ambitions and that is wrong, but Toki also still used the art to cure the sick even after he shouldn't was supposed to stop, which would be just as bad as Raoh's actions according to the laws of Hokuto. I'm not saying he should let people die, nor am I saying that upholding the rule is more important than saving lives. But why does no one even acknowledge like they do with Raoh? "That man, he isn't supposed to be using it?the art of Hokuto Shinken. Then again, he is using it only to heal people so I guess it's ok." I mean something like that would have been nice.
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* It's made a pretty big deal that Raoh refused to stop practicing Hokuto Shinken and so the fight of succession that needed to be and finally was settled at the end of the first half. There can only be on successor to Hokuto Shinken at a time, as is repeated a large amount of times. Those who aren't chosen MUST stop using the art, or else. But what about Toki? Sure, Toki isn't a hard ass BloodKnight going around killing people all in the name of conquering the world and instead used it to heal the sick, but he is still as bad as Raoh because he's using it when he's not supposed to. Say it's splitting hairs, but using Hokuto Shinken is using Hokuto Shinken no matter what you use it for. Sure, nobody really was going to kill him for using it despite not being the successor, but why does nobody ever mention that he shouldn't be using it?
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** Either they are using vehicles that already had the gas in them and discarding them for others once they run out, siphoning gas from abandoned vehicles for their own use, or there are lots of unharmed gas cans just laying around. Most likely it is all three in varying degrees. After a nuclear apocalypse the population is very small compared to what it once was, and almost all of the vehicles we see are used by bad guys who are constantly moving to other places to rob and pillage. The other places are either oasises or struggling so badly for food that using vehicles is the least of their worries. At one point we see Kenshiro exchanging a can of gasoline for food. Not sure how much he actually exchanged it for, but considering there was a whole pile of food in front of the guy he wanted to exchange with he probably got it all just for that one can. It's doubtful any thug would be doing anything to screw with anyone while carrying a five gallon can of gas, so Kenshiro most likely didn't kill someone to get it, meaning he just happened to stumble upon it.
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* Does anybdoy know the name of the track that plays when Kenshiro destroys the tank or when he fights Mr. Heart?
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** My money is on them having too many enemies: Kenshiro wasn't the only wandering high-end {{Mook}}-hunting martial artist around (like Ein and the Harn brothers), and with Raoh dead Jako started expanding the Heavenly Emperor's territory and sicking the Gento practitioners on anyone stupid enough to oppose him or break his law. Add to that that the very worst of the lot were massacred by Kenshiro, Rei, Juda, the Nanto Goshasei and ''Raoh himself'', and that Raoh's elite force is still around and capable of kicking their collective asses, and you don't have to imagine too much on what happened to them.
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** He only cut the tendons, not the whole limbs.
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** He was rebelling to his destiny as a "neglected star". The reaction of the monks to his mother sacrifice was about "no big deal, that's what servants are all about". He did not find so fair that his role and that of his beloved mother was to suffer for the upperclassmen, and if he did not start an evil and demonical cult he would have also been right. Kenshiro gets his point, it could be the reason why [[spoiler: he adopts Raoh son after Raoh death]] .
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** He was rebelling to his destiny as a "neglected star". The reaction of the monks to his mother sacrifice was about "no big deal, that's what servants are all about". He did not find so fair that his role and that of his beloved mother was to suffer for the upperclassmen, and if he did not start an evil and demonical cult he would have also been right. Kenshiro gets his point, it could be the reason why [[spoiler: he adopts Raoh son after Raoh death]] .
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*** There's also the ugly story of their [[spoiler:entire family, where, millennia before, the monks of the Hokuto Soke clan got worried about China tearing itself apart during the Three Kingdoms period tearing itself apart, and needed someone of their clan to invent a martial art that will strike fear into China, thus uniting it. Two women of the Hokuto Soke clan, Shume and Ouka, gave birth to two sons, Shuken and Ryuoh respectively. To prevent a SuccessionCrisis, the monks decided to feed the infants to wolves, and which infant survived, is the man to invent the martial art. Ouka averted this, and offed herself to save her son and nephew because Shume, who was ill, wanted Shuken to invent the martial art before she bit it. As a result, both Shuken and Ryuoh were spared, with the former inventing Hokuto Shinken. Whereas Ryuoh grew up with a mother's love, and his descendants will wind up losing their mothers at the earliest of ages, which Kaioh, Raoh, Toki, and Sayaka have done so]].
*** There's also the ugly story of their [[spoiler:entire family, where, millennia before, the monks of the Hokuto Soke clan got worried about China tearing itself apart during the Three Kingdoms period tearing itself apart, and needed someone of their clan to invent a martial art that will strike fear into China, thus uniting it. Two women of the Hokuto Soke clan, Shume and Ouka, gave birth to two sons, Shuken and Ryuoh respectively. To prevent a SuccessionCrisis, the monks decided to feed the infants to wolves, and which infant survived, is the man to invent the martial art. Ouka averted this, and offed herself to save her son and nephew because Shume, who was ill, wanted Shuken to invent the martial art before she bit it. As a result, both Shuken and Ryuoh were spared, with the former inventing Hokuto Shinken. Whereas Ryuoh grew up with a mother's love, and his descendants will wind up losing their mothers at the earliest of ages, which Kaioh, Raoh, Toki, and Sayaka have done so]].
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** Perhaps making clothes fast is one of the first things taught in Hokuto Shinken. Meaning his brothers had the same "skill" as well. Imagine Raoh with a needle...
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** Also, unlike most other low to mid-level villains, Heart was relatively jovial towards people. He's shown treating the bartender fairly decently, and it's only when he sees his own blood that he goes berserk.
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**** Because Jagi's multitude of other crimes (murders, massacres, rapes, killing Rei and Airi's parents and selling her to slavery...) permanently disqualified him from Hokuto. If he hadn't been killed, no doubt Raoh would have eventually done the deed even if he did employ him.
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** In one of the anime adaptations it was stated that the shelter only had room for two more adults (as they would have to stay inside for two weeks and food and water must have been carefully rationed for that purpose). That was another reason for Toki to do what he did, because otherwise it would have been Kenshiro who would have willingly sacrificed himself to save his fiancee and brother, and Toki knew this.
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* Speaking of that radiation shelter, why couldn't Toki be let in? The shelter's mostly children (probably to make Toki's sacrifice seem more noble). I don't see why Kenshiro and Toki couldn't have picked up two kids each and stood there like that.
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* Motorcycles and other times of cars are seen pretty damn often...where the Hell is everyone getting all the gas to keep those things running?
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* Motorcycles and other times of cars are seen pretty damn often...where the Hell is everyone getting all the gas to keep those things running?
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** The first thing to understand is that the anime contains loads of {{Filler}}. That scene with Kenshirou destroying the tank was just anime Filler and it never happened in the original manga. Also, Creator/ToeiAnimation, which created the TV series and the 1986 movie, is notorious for overlooking details and creating inconsistencies from that. In other words, this is an example of AdaptationInducedPlotHole.
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