History Headscratchers / FireEmblemRadiantDawn

*** Who's to assume that his and Soren's mutual {{Cameo}} in Awakening aren't canon? Maybe Ike and Soren canonically travelled together, got separated, and ended up meeting Chrom's group somehow during an interdimensional jaunt?

* In [[spoiler:Ike's Radiant Dawn ending]], it was noted he went to lands unknown. How could he do that, when [[spoiler: Telius was the only one left due to the great flood?]]

* The Blood Pact in ''Radiant Dawn''. On Chapter 3-13, it said that [[spoiler:"the blood pact breaks when the pact-maker is killed by a third party"]]. So why doesn't pact-maker [[spoiler:Pelleas secretly make a suicide attack on a neutral country like, say, Goldoa, or something of the like, instead of having Micaiah or Tauroneo kill him?]] Which I knew from a mile away wouldn't work, as [[spoiler:the two are from Daein]].
** Going further in the game might clear that up. However, the possibility you suggest, while interesting, is made extremely impractical by geographical realities of Tellius. Daein and Goldoa are very, very distant.
** So? It's not like there aren't other [[spoiler:"third parties" you couldn't hire to off yourself, like Volke.]] Pelleas is a king, I'm pretty sure he has the resources to pull this off

* In ''Radiant Dawn'', after Part 2, what happened to [[spoiler:Ludveck]] anyway? Last time we saw him, he was in prison, then nothing.

* Again in RD, what was up with [[spoiler:Naesala's Blood Pact? He destroyed it and was freed, no dying involved.]]

* This is much, much closer to FridgeLogic than a Headscratcher, but I'm trying to wrap my head around exactly who would be magically bound by a Blood Pact (i.e. the citizens, not the actual pactmakers) and how they would be bound. It would absolutely have to involve a person's genetics and heritage [[LoopholeAbuse to avoid an extremely cheap copout]] such as "Okay, today we're changing the country's name so that we are all not citizens of X anymore." or "Today, I'm officially dissolving the country of X. Call yourselves whatever you want, go to other countries, etc." I would also imagine that it would not simply involve killing everyone who happened to be within that country's boundaries in order to avoid killing innocent foreigners and/or the king/queen from merely evacuating everyone to safety. So, wouldn't the blood pact then affect everyone on the continent that was born of Daein blood? Which would naturally include people like Ike and Mist (full-blooded Daein) and Soren (half)?

* In [=FE10=], why did [=NoA=] change Brad to Aran, aside from the fact that it creates a few issues because an Aran already existed in the series (one that would appear in the next English-released game, no less), but Brad is a name that is common in English!

*** What is this mysterious Fire Emblem 11 people keep talking about? A remake is not enough to justify a new number, people. Otherwise Final Fantasy would be on FF 1 Million by now.

*** Also, Fire Emblem games, unlike Final Fantasy, don't have numbers, they have subtitles (except the first North American release, but I digress). Calling a game "[=FE11=]" or "[=FE7=]" is just fan shorthand. It's not official in any capacity.
** As to the original JBM: While Fire Emblem usually abides by OneSteveLimit within each individual game, and there isn't a lot of crossover of names between games, it is not out of the question for characters who inhabit two different universes (probably) to have similar names. Anyway, despite their similar names, there is a difference between them, so people won't mistake which game you're talking about unless you're an awful typist.

* The dragon tribe ages slower than normal. But in Ena's ending for [=FE10=], she apparently gives birth to her fiance's child, a several year long pregnancy with no outward signs.

** Probably because Humanoid Alternate Form does not necessarily equal human biology, too. Just because they can look like us, does not mean things are the same as us.

** It's even longer than it sounds. If you take the fact that Rajaion went to save his nephew when he was very young (because that's when Almedha saw him last), and he's around 18 at the end of Radiant Dawn, and Ena didn't have any chance for conception in those 18 years (after around 13-14 Rajaion dies as Ashnard's mount, and assume there aren't any other real chances otherwise, as he's being confined), she would have been pregnant for around 18 years without showing, as far as we can tell, any outward sign whatsoever.

*** And another thing: Rajaion left Goldoa to look for his nephew "some nineteen years ago" according to Ena at the end of Path of Radiance, so Rajaion's nephew must have been 19 in POR and 22 in RD.

* In Radiant Dawn, why the HELL did Micaiah order the Apostle's Pegasus to be shot down? Yeah, great idea, kill the only hope you might have for a free world. Hope you have a plan to deal with the hordes of Begnion tropes that the Senate will send even if you do succeed! Furthermore, why did Ike just let Micaiah go anyway? She ordered her troops to kill the apostle! I think that would be a good reason to capture her and hold her hostage! So what if Sanaki said "No more bloodshed", she's a massive danger! Finally, what was the point of Sephiran's rebellion in the capital? How did that fit into his plan of [[spoiler:awakening Ashera?]]

* In '''Radiant Dawn''', one of the weapons twins comes up to Micaiah and says "At least Ashnard never tried to destroy Crimea as a country!" ''Except he did!'' ''' ''Twice!'' ''' Both by invading them and killing everyone (the townspeople whose houses you enter in '''Path of Radiance''' praise you for saving them from extinction) and [[spoiler:by trying to cause a world war so that the dark goddess would awaken and wipe everyone out!]] Even if the convoy workers didn't know the second, they should at least know the first!

*** While this point is agreed with, it just struck this troper as being a lame way to try to get the player to stop thinking "Why am I helping these people? I spent the entirety of the last game trying to stop them from destroying the world!" Silly game; it didn't work. I still felt no regret wiping the floor with them later in the game, no matter how often they say Ashnard wasn't that bad, because he ''was'' that bad.

*** I'm with the original response, actually. To expand: there is a major difference between what Ashnard did to Crimea and what the Begnion Senate did to Daein. Crimea was invaded with its government forced into inactivity and the citizens treated like they always were before the attack, only with foreign troops patrolling on occasion to watch for rebellion; similar to Germany's takeover of France in World War II. As for what happened with Begnion's subjugation, it was quite different: Begnion troops were enforcing their own rule of law onto innocent civilians, forcing anyone and everyone with any sign of defiance into concentration camps, if not outright slaughtering them in broad daylight; allowing poverty and thievery to occur unchecked, and ensuring that not a single bit of this information would reach the knowledge of anyone who could interfere or stop this injustice, just like what happened to Germany during the UsefulNotes/ColdWar. In fact, I'd say that the entire basis of Part I of [=FE10=] was an Anvilicious allusion to the difference between WWII Germany and the Soviet Union.

** What bugs me more about this is the fact that ''Radiant Dawn'' wasn't rated T but ''Path of Radiance'' WAS. ''Path of Radiance'' said ONE swear word in a hard to find place and made an ambiguous reference to alcoholism. ''Radiant Dawn'' said SEVERAL in CUTSCENES and made an explicit reference to alcoholism, plus all the premarital sex and the sex jokes.
*** The ESRB started the E10 rating in 2005, PoR was also released in 2005... maybe it was released before the rating existed. Also, Smash Bros lets you hit kids with a baseball bat, so while the themes aren't a serious, there's a good dose of violence.
** This is sort of interesting. In PAL regions, Path of Radiance had a 7+ rating while Radiant Dawn was rated 12+ .
*** What the hell, Radiant Dawn gets an A rating in Japan anyway?

*** Clearly not, seeing as they freely use the Japanese equivalent for "shit" as loosely as possible even in ''kodomo'' manga. Also, [[IncestIsRelative F]][[RocksFallEveryoneDies E]] 4.

* Why is it that, if you use Naesala to kill Lekain in the Endgame of Radiant Dawn, his Blood Pact is still destroyed? I didn't think descendants counted as third parties.
** Naesala is the ''King of Kilvas''. The Blood Pact was signed by a former ''King of Kilvas''. I suspect that as far as Blood Pact magic is concerned, it basically makes them the same person. It fits in with the themes of 'rightful king' of RD.

*** Phoenicis and Kilvas are republics under the guise of monarchal names. In Path of Radiance, it is said that they choose kings "based on strength", which means that Naesala probably had no relation to the King who signed the blood pact, and was only taking responsibility for it because he was ruling the country.

** Ashera was asleep before the first Beroc and Laguz couple mated so she wouldn't know about them, as for them losing thier powers it may be a sort of thing so the parents could raise the child on equal terms. Or the Goddess didn't run a debug script when creating the two.

** All four are rather young, and have only experience with skirmishes; Bond supports seem to imply long-lasting comradeship, familial ties, or deep love. Although I certainly wouldn't have minded some extra critical bonuses on the Dawn Brigade...

* This is full of spoilers and my thoughts, so humor me please: I'm playing the game again, and short of "because if Micaiah is alone in 1-9 she will definitely die and the game will end," I can't understand why Sephiran would send the Black Knight to save her sauce. He admits in the Tower that he had no idea she was alive (or else, I gather, he would have had her sing the Galdr of Release and end the world without the war), so how did he know to send the Black Knight to her? If he had no idea who she is, which he claimed, then he must've sent the Black Knight to liberate Daein, not protect her specifically (although the two causes are one in the same); why does he care if Daein is free or not, considering his plans end up with world extermination? If his goal was to make sure Daein participated in the world war, he would have been better off leaving them under the control of the Senate, who inevitably would have used the captured Daein soldiers to fight. At least by the second time, 4-3, it seems that Sephiran knows she's alive, considering the Black Knight tries to get her to go to the Tower by herself; but even then, what's the point of that, considering Ashera's going to Judgment the world again (which is what Sephiran wants) unless Yune intervenes, so why would he want to bring Yune there? My only guess is that he wants to either say goodbye to Yune or possibly have her stop him because he's secretly a nice guy, but maybe I missed something.

This is another spoiler for the Radiance/Radiant Titles so close the folder now if that bugs you. Concerning Radiant Dawn's ending, breaking up the Greil Mercenaries was odd but done logically and wanting to close Ike's story forever is understandable, if questionable because he's popular. What does not make sense is ''how'' Ike's story closed. He left alone for lands unknown and was never seen again? He decided not stick with his promise to protect sister, the promise to uphold the peace or(the big one) the promise to run the company he inherited? Where exactly could he go with only one continent left on the planet? He couldn't cross the desert, someone did that already. A more satisfying end would have been "Like Zihark, Ike remained a mercenary and continued to lend aid where it was needed until old age immobilized him. He died at 97 and a bunch of people attended his funeral." Okay, maybe that wouldn't be more satisfying but it wouldn't contradict anything.
** The writers probably thought that the best way to avoid fans going crazy and saying "[[FanDumb OMFG, HE STAYED IN CRIMEA, THAT MEANS HE MARRIED]] [[ShipToShipCombat ELINCIA/SOREN]] [[FanDumb AND THE WRITERS WANT US TO FIGURE IT OUT FOR OURSELVES!!!]]", so they decided to give a better excuse for AndTheAdventureContinues by mixing it up with ButNowIMustGo. Unfortunately, their only fault was [[HoYay saying that Soren or Ranulf have a chance to go with him]], with only minor ambiguity on that part

*** Maybe one of them didn't. I don't recall them ever saying that Micaiah and Sanaki are full sisters. It seems probable to me that Misaha only had one son, thus why the Apostle's power skipped that generation, who fathered Micaiah by his first wife, then remarried and fathered Sanaki when Micaiah and her mother were both apparently killed along with Misaha.

* The Mad King Ashnard used a blood pact with a travelling man to wipe out his entire bloodline and seize the throne. That, I get. What I don't get is how on earth ''he'' managed to avoid the blood pact. I mean, how did he know that, out of the thousand-odd dead men and women of Daein, he would survive to take the crown?

*** Clearly not, seeing as they freely use the Japanese equivalent for "shit" as loosely as possible even in ''kodomo'' manga. Also, [[IncestIsRelative F]][[RocksFallEveryoneDies E]][[GettingCrapPastTheRadar 4]].

** The writers probably thought that the best way to avoid fans going crazy and saying "[[FanDumb OMFG, HE STAYED IN CRIMEA, THAT MEANS HE MARRIED]] [[ShipToShipCombat ELINCIA/SOREN]] [[FanDumb AND THE WRITERS WANT US TO FIGURE IT OUT FOR OURSELVES!!!]]", so they decided to give a better excuse for AndTheAdventureContinues by mixing it up with ButNowIMustGo. Unfortunately, their only fault was [[HoYay saying that Soren or Ranulf have a chance to go with him]], with only minor ambiguosity on that part

** First of all, Micaiah is not the child of the empress; Misaha's child apparently never took over as ruler of Begnion. There's some evidence that Micaiah and Sanaki are not full siblings, which would help explain a ten-to-thirteen year gap between them, especially if their father is the shared parent. The most likely explanation is that Micaiah's mother absconded to Daein, she may even have been from Daein herself, when all hell broke lose and was able to successfully hide Micaiah before getting killed. Micaiah's inability to remember her origins implies that she was at most four years old at the time. If she were a newborn, it is possible that her birth simply wasn't publically announced yet, especially if Misaha's dauther/daughter-in-law didn't make very many public appearances.

* If the Branded bloodline remains all the way from Altina and Lehran's time to Micaiah and Sanaki, then why only Micaiah got those traits while Sanaki aged normally?

Micaiah being a descendant of Altina and Lehran isn't that much of a stretch, as her abilities fit in nicely with herons. BUT the main problem? ''Who exactly loses an empress''?

* First of all, Micaiah is not the child of the empress; Misaha's child apparently never took over as ruler of Begnion. There's some evidence that Micaiah and Sanaki are not full siblings, which would help explain a ten-to-thirteen year gap between them, especially if their father is the shared parent. The most likely explanation is that Micaiah's mother absconded to Daein, she may even have been from Daein herself, when all hell broke lose and was able to successfully hide Micaiah before getting killed. Micaiah's inability to remember her origins implies that she was at most four years old at the time. If she were a newborn, it is possible that her birth simply wasn't publically announced yet, especially if Misaha's dauther/daughter-in-law didn't make very many public appearances.

** It is a Geis that exploits the conceptual relationship between the [[FisherKing Ruler]], [[FisherKingdom the land]], and their people. The "King is One with the Land'', A Kingdom Shapes and is Shaped by her People. It's a primordial belief like the laws of Sacred Hospitality. A cursed King means a cursed Land, and a cursed Land means a cursed People. As long as the people see themselves as the citizens of Daein, they exist under the recognized ruler of Daein. Even if the map were to be redrawn or renamed, on a subconscious level they still see themselves as Daein, it would take an adjustment period of undefined length for that to change. Note though that Ruler is not necessarily chosen by bloodline or divine right. When Pelleas died, the mark of the Blood Pact transferred to the Micaiah because she was naturally the only other individual who was seen as the rightful leader of Daein.