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*** Also, Cordelia is a JackOfAllTrades/TheAce in a lot of what she does...so what if one of the things she ''isn't'' good at is ruling?

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*** Also, Cordelia is a JackOfAllTrades/TheAce JackOfAllTrades in a lot of what she does...so what if one of the things she ''isn't'' good at is ruling?ruling? She's pretty anal retentive and a perfectionist, and that kind of attitude makes for a terrible ruler because they constantly look for problems that aren't there. And you can only imagine what ''Severa'' would be like as a princess.



* ''Why'' can Sumia marry Frederick, Gaius and Henry, but not Stahl, Vaike, Kellam or any of the other male Shepherds? Especially Stahl, since they're pretty similar, personality-wise. It's just something that bothers me - her pool of husbands is presumably kept small because for some reason the gamers want you to ship her with Chrom, but her other potential candidates seem kind of random.

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* ''Why'' can Sumia marry Frederick, Gaius and Henry, but not Stahl, Vaike, Kellam or any of the other male Shepherds? Especially Stahl, since they're pretty similar, personality-wise. It's just something that bothers me - her pool of husbands is presumably kept small because for some reason the gamers game developers want you to ship her with Chrom, but her other potential candidates seem kind of random.


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*** That makes no sense. You can marry a PsychoticManchild like Henry to Sumia, or Gaius who is a convicted criminal, but not Vaike because he's a bit of a lech?


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*** Plus he sounds dashing!
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*** If he was ''literally'' never seen again, that would make it a bit difficult for him to start a family ([[CaptainObvious probably not what you meant, er]]). If "never seen again" applies to only the people of Tellius, Ike could have been a HermitGuru just chilling on an island a la Yoda once he finished traveling (fight for your friends, you must). His fame that apparently carried over from Tellius might cause him to be sought out by many intrepid hero types, with some mastering it and then taking up that same role as SENSEI. Like a fighting style cult. Then the Tellius emigrant Priam or someone higher up tries tracking the footsteps of DA HERO and finds said cult. It would explain his obsession with fighting, anyway. And are we sure that Ike took Ragnell, Begnion's national treasure that he returned after Path of Radiance? But the question of where Ragnell is of less importance if we know that people other than Ike can go back and forth between worlds. Priam/someone from Mist's line could have taken it from Begnion or it could be some "sword in the stone" situation. Not the simplest of possibilities, but it doesn't contradict anything we know and it stays in line with "Ike doesn't marry/have kids/would probably pass on Aether". Those are liable to change, but given what we know, and I'm sure IS knows what they already have established. And the simplest explanations tend to make for a dull story anyway.

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*** If he was ''literally'' never seen again, that would make it a bit difficult for him to start a family ([[CaptainObvious probably not what you meant, er]]).family. If "never seen again" applies to only the people of Tellius, Ike could have been a HermitGuru just chilling on an island a la Yoda once he finished traveling (fight for your friends, you must). His fame that apparently carried over from Tellius might cause him to be sought out by many intrepid hero types, with some mastering it and then taking up that same role as SENSEI. Like a fighting style cult. Then the Tellius emigrant Priam or someone higher up tries tracking the footsteps of DA HERO and finds said cult. It would explain his obsession with fighting, anyway. And are we sure that Ike took Ragnell, Begnion's national treasure that he returned after Path of Radiance? But the question of where Ragnell is of less importance if we know that people other than Ike can go back and forth between worlds. Priam/someone from Mist's line could have taken it from Begnion or it could be some "sword in the stone" situation. Not the simplest of possibilities, but it doesn't contradict anything we know and it stays in line with "Ike doesn't marry/have kids/would probably pass on Aether". Those are liable to change, but given what we know, and I'm sure IS knows what they already have established. And the simplest explanations tend to make for a dull story anyway.
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* How can Chrom's fallback wife be a maiden even after she's given birth to his child?
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* This didn't occur to me until a few times through the game (so I'm not sure if it belongs here or on FridgeLogic), but what exactly was the point of the BadFuture version of Grima/Robin trying to posses present Robin? Grima clearly already has a human host for himself that can access his power, so would he really need to possess present Robin in the first place? Unless he thought that would give him some kind of power boost, but it was kind of unclear.

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* This didn't occur to me until a few times through the game (so I'm not sure if it belongs here or on FridgeLogic), but what exactly was the point of the BadFuture version of Grima/Robin trying to posses possess present Robin? Grima clearly already has a human host for himself that can access his power, so would he really need to possess present Robin in the first place? Unless he thought that would give him some kind of power boost, but it was kind of unclear.



* While I might ship Chrom/Robin, I have to ask; Why can't Chrom's other wives have more trust in him when they meet Lucina? Espeically since he's never given them any reason to doubt? Am I really supposed to believe [[ChildhoodFriend Sully]] doesn't know him well enough to know that's not his character? Or that Maribelle, who becomes an magistrate in most of her endings, wouldn't ''AT LEAST'' wait and listen to their side of the story first? Or that Sumia, who not only resuced, but "slapped" Chrom to get his head out of his ass, would see him with another woman once and decide it's over? While Olivia's the only one who would have trust issues with her marriage due to FourthDateMarriage but she becomes a fucking doormat. "She's beautiful and you're happiness should come first." WHAT?! So she'll defend a dog from Henry, but she's not even going to fight for her baby? But Robin? She's the only one who even says "I trust you, I just want to know what's going on." Yeah, she's not ''happy'' but she's the only one who's remotely calm and rational. Why can't the others be like that too? There's RuleOfFunny and then there's CharacterDerailment.

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* While I might ship Chrom/Robin, I have to ask; Why can't Chrom's other wives have more trust in him when they meet Lucina? Espeically since he's never given them any reason to doubt? Am I really supposed to believe [[ChildhoodFriend Sully]] doesn't know him well enough to know that's not his character? Or that Maribelle, who becomes an magistrate in most of her endings, wouldn't ''AT LEAST'' wait and listen to their side of the story first? Or that Sumia, who not only resuced, but "slapped" Chrom to get his head out of his ass, would see him with another woman once and decide it's over? While Olivia's the only one who would have trust issues with her marriage due to FourthDateMarriage but she becomes a fucking doormat. "She's beautiful and you're your happiness should come first." WHAT?! So she'll defend a dog from Henry, but she's not even going to fight for her baby? But Robin? She's the only one who even says "I trust you, I just want to know what's going on." Yeah, she's not ''happy'' but she's the only one who's remotely calm and rational. Why can't the others be like that too? There's RuleOfFunny and then there's CharacterDerailment.
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** It's hinted that the Brand doesn't ''always'' appear right away. [[spoiler:Ophelia didn't get her Brand until she joined the Nohrian army.]] If what you say is possible, then it probably didn't appear until after Lissa's hair came in and it wouldn't be seen.

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** *** It's hinted that the Brand doesn't ''always'' appear right away. [[spoiler:Ophelia didn't get her Brand until she joined the Nohrian army.]] If what you say is possible, then it probably didn't appear until after Lissa's hair came in and it wouldn't be seen.
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** It's hinted that the Brand doesn't ''always'' appear right away. [[spoiler:Ophelia didn't get her Brand until she joined the Nohrian army.]] If what you say is possible, then it probably didn't appear until after Lissa's hair came in and it wouldn't be seen.

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*** Incorrect, fate was originally written by Grima and to a lesser extent Validar, it's clear from what they say that he should of died there, Lucina doesn't say anything on the subject, just that she's about to save his life, ''and'' she didn't know about the second one, and the only way for her not to have known that was if ''no one'' knew that, which could only happen if he had died there, that one scene pretty much turns Lucina into a living paradox, she can't have been born without going back to save him, she's like a barely StableTimeLoop, and the act of her being there throws everything off as the bad future couldn't have happened in the first place. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Timey]]. [[TimeyWimeyBall Wimey]]. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Ball]].

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*** Incorrect, fate was originally written by Grima and to a lesser extent Validar, it's clear from what they say that he should of have died there, Lucina doesn't say anything on the subject, just that she's about to save his life, ''and'' she didn't know about the second one, and the only way for her not to have known that was if ''no one'' knew that, which could only happen if he had died there, that one scene pretty much turns Lucina into a living paradox, she can't have been born without going back to save him, she's like a barely StableTimeLoop, and the act of her being there throws everything off as the bad future couldn't have happened in the first place. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Timey]]. [[TimeyWimeyBall Wimey]]. [[PunctuatedForEmphasis Ball]].



** "The Future" is treated like an alternate timeline in the first place, so that explains the not RetGone thing. As for Chrom and the assassins, it's obvious that Chrom would have lived through it, or else how would Grima!Robin have all those flashbacks involving him? I'm assuming Lucy just said she was "saving Chrom's life" for dramatic effect or something. Otherwise, not only would she not have been born, the whole original timeline couldn't have happened the way it did.

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** "The Future" is treated like an alternate timeline in the first place, so that explains the not RetGone thing. As for Chrom and the assassins, it's obvious that Chrom would have lived through it, or else how would Grima!Robin have all those flashbacks involving him? I'm assuming Lucy Luci just said she was "saving Chrom's life" for dramatic effect or something. Otherwise, not only would she not have been born, the whole original timeline couldn't have happened the way it did.



** That still raises the questions on where the degenerated dragons went, and why the Table and the emblem changed function

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** That still raises the questions on where the degenerated dragons went, and why the Table and the emblem changed functionfunction.
** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Echoes]]'' explains where Grima came from. However, that still leaves the question of what happened to all of the Earth Dragons if the seal was removed...



*** The Holy Blood idea makes a ton of sense considering certain revelations in ''Echoes''. [[spoiler:Considering Forneus gave Grima some of his own blood, it's highly likely that the modern-day Grimleal (or at least Robin's family) is descended from him, explaining the connection.]]



*** Speaking of this, apart from all of the MindRape implications in the Grimleal explaining a lot, it's also possible that [[spoiler:Forneus's goal of creating a super-powerful army, as seen in ''Echoes'', was passed down through the Grimleal, but just horribly warped over time]].



** Guys... Maybe I just have a weirder mid than you but couldn't it be on her scalp? If you can't see it from the start or it moves after a while if she had it under her hair I doubt anyone would see it after she was at best a couple of months old.

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** Guys... Maybe I just have a weirder mid mind than you but couldn't it be on her scalp? If you can't see it from the start or it moves after a while if she had it under her hair I doubt anyone would see it after she was at best a couple of months old. old.
*** A logical place for it to be, but it also seems likely that people would've noticed it when Lissa was a baby, depending on how light/fine her hair was then.


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** And even if you paired up Robin with someone else who has a kid, it's specifically due to how devoted to Robin Morgan was before that allowed them to become that fanatically loyal to them in the future. Another Robin-parented kid having some conflict over it could've been interesting, but all of the other kids are still more tied to their default parent than to Robin.


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** Also, Naga repeatedly states that the Future Past timeline is fairly similar to the main one; this is still a different timeline from the original one, so it's possible that it stems from a timeline where Lucina went back and failed for whatever reason. There's a few [=WMGs=] on this topic that go into more detail on it.
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**Guys... Maybe I just have a weirder mid than you but couldn't it be on her scalp? If you can't see it from the start or it moves after a while if she had it under her hair I doubt anyone would see it after she was at best a couple of months old.
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** ''[[VideoGame/FireEmblemGaiden Echoes]]'' explains this. [[spoiler:Grima is actually an [[ArtificialHuman artificial dragon]] created by a MadScientist.]] Though he does have some similarities to both Medeus and Loptyr, so it's still possible he has some connection to Earth Dragons ([[spoiler:Forneus could've used some Earth Dragon blood in him, for instance]]).


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** Well... Grima ''isn't'' an Earth Dragon, exactly, he's [[spoiler:an artificially created dragon intended to be a perfect creature]], so that might explain part of it. It could be that there was something special about [[spoiler:his creation]] that allowed him to do that.


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** Also, it's been 2,000 years. I'd be more surprised if all of the countries were exactly the same. Even in real life, there have been kingdoms that vanished and regions that had their names changed over time.
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*** Ah, right. That could be the case, too; I need to replay the game and see if that's stated. But if so, that's a good point; it'd further limit the number of people who could potentially have it.


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** It could be that they'd heard about him or had some kind of written correspondence, but simply never saw him in person until then. Between all of the general post-war recovery that Ylisse and Regna Ferox had to do, as well as Chrom's marriage and Lucina's birth, it's plausible that nobody would have time to schedule an in-person meeting before then.
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** [[http://serenesforest.net/fe13/char_max.html For details on modifiers]]. But basically, children's modifiers are determined by this formula: Mother's Modifiers + Father's Modifier's + 1 for each stat.

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** [[http://serenesforest.net/fe13/char_max.html [[https://serenesforest.net/awakening/characters/maximum-stats/modifiers/ For details on modifiers]]. But basically, children's modifiers are determined by this formula: Mother's Modifiers + Father's Modifier's + 1 for each stat.
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*** Isn't the whole brand thing started with a descendant of Marth, not Marth himself? Only people descended from the first Exalt would have the brand right?

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* Libra is often mentioned praying to gods and often uses "In Naga's name." Which would be fine, as he's a religious man, but he's also a ''Ylissean'' priest and one that is supposed to be directly supporting Emmeryn. Emmeryn is a follower of Naga and considered to be part of the Divine Dragon's chosen bloodline. So.. who exactly is Libra praying to? And why, when his closest "god" is a female dragon?

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* Libra is often mentioned praying to gods and often uses "In Naga's name." Which would be fine, as he's a religious man, but he's also a an ''Ylissean'' priest and one that is supposed to be directly supporting Emmeryn. Emmeryn is a follower of Naga and considered to be part of the Divine Dragon's chosen bloodline. So.. who exactly is Libra praying to? And why, when his closest "god" is a female dragon?



** Because Lucina can be benched on story missions while [[CantDropTheHero Chrom can't]]. The developers wanted to make sure you always have ''someone'' who can recruit the child characters in case you [[GuideDangIt forgot to bring their parent]] or they get indisposed/[[DroppedABridgeOnHim killed]] during the mission. Don't get me wrong, Lucina ''should'' be able to recruit the second-generation characters (watching her [[MindScrew try to figure out second-gen Morgan]] would be ''hilarious''), but it would have been more writing work, so it's understandable that they just had "canon parent + Chrom."

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** Because Lucina can be benched on story missions while [[CantDropTheHero Chrom can't]]. The developers wanted to make sure you always have ''someone'' who can recruit the child characters in case you [[GuideDangIt forgot to bring their parent]] or they get indisposed/[[DroppedABridgeOnHim killed]] during the mission. Don't get me wrong, Lucina ''should'' be able to recruit the second-generation characters (watching her [[MindScrew try to figure out second-gen third-gen Morgan]] would be ''hilarious''), but it would have been more writing work, so it's understandable that they just had "canon parent + Chrom."



* It's been two thousand years since the first game. Why it looks barely different technology-wise?

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** The most logical thing I can think of is, after the Shepherds found out that he's still alive somehow, Chrom thought it would be better to keep an eye on him so it would be harder for Walhart to run off and conquer Valm again. That, and in-universe Chrom still seems to be a bit impressed by Walhart, so he could've just let that slide.
* It's been two thousand years since the first game. Why does it looks look barely different technology-wise?technology-wise?
** It's just MedievalStasis in full effect.



* Why doesn't Cherche have a french accent like Virion? For that matter, why is Inigo british?

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*** Yep, this is pretty much confirmed in her scene after the time skip. Virion wanted ''someone'' he trusted to be back in Rosanne while he went off to look for help.
* Why doesn't Cherche have a french French accent like Virion? For that matter, why is Inigo british?British?
** Could be that Virion is exaggerating his accent to invoke EverythingSoundsSexierInFrench. It wouldn't be too out of character [[ChivalrousPervert for him]], and it explains why Gerome also lacks an accent even when fathered by Virion himself.
** Also, Inigo's accent isn't really ''that'' noticeable in this game. It's there, but it's stronger in ''Fates'' when he's actively trying to hide his identity.
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* How come no one knew Validar had succeded Gangrel until they met him two years after the fact? Peace-building relations must have taken at least some time, so it seems odd that Chrom, Flavia, and none of their allies would have met him at least once prior to when we see in game.
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** It may be very hard to justify the lack of Stahl/Sumia or Kellam/Sumia from an Watsonian perspective, but it makes sense from a Doylist viewpoint. Sumia's other love interests aren't really random - as part of the developers pushing Chrom/Sumia, each of her other love interests has some connection to Chrom. Frederick is his lieutenant, Gaius can support with him, and Henry's the only guy who can be recruited after he's married. Stahl and Kellam have no connection to Chrom like this, explaining why they can't be paired up with Sumia. Now, Vaike ''can'' support with Chrom, but they developers might've seen him as too fruity for the Pegasus Knight.

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** It may be very hard to justify the lack of Stahl/Sumia or Kellam/Sumia from an a Watsonian perspective, but it makes sense from a Doylist viewpoint. Sumia's other love interests aren't really random - as part of the developers pushing Chrom/Sumia, each of her other love interests has some connection to Chrom. Frederick is his lieutenant, Gaius can support with him, and Henry's the only guy who can be recruited after he's married. Stahl and Kellam have no connection to Chrom like this, explaining why they can't be paired up with Sumia. Now, Vaike ''can'' support with Chrom, but they the developers might've seen him as too fruity for the Pegasus Knight.
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** It may be very hard to justify the lack of Stahl/Sumia or Kellam/Sumia from an Watsonian perspective, but it makes sense from a Doylist viewpoint. Sumia's other love interests aren't really random - as part of the developers pushing Chrom/Sumia, each of her other love interests has some connection to Chrom. Frederick is his lieutenant, Gaius can support with him, and Henry's the only guy who can be recruited after he's married. Stahl and Kellam have no connection to Chrom like this, explaining why they can't be paired up with Sumia. Now, Vaike ''can'' support with Chrom, but they developers might've seen him as too fruity for the Pegasus Knight.
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** I don't know about Archanea/Ylisse, but Valentia was renamed Valm after Alm from Gaiden/Echoes.
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* One question: when Chrom and co go to Regena Ferox, why did nobody tell Maribelle (who left the Shepards Garrison room after Vaike burped in repulse) about the expedition?! If they did, she wouldn't have been kidnapped, and the Ylissean-Plegian war wouldn't have started sooner!

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* One question: when Chrom and co go to Regena Regna Ferox, why did nobody tell Maribelle (who left the Shepards Garrison room after Vaike burped in repulse) about the expedition?! If they did, she wouldn't have been kidnapped, and the Ylissean-Plegian war wouldn't have started sooner!



** Actually there is [[FridgeHorror one way]] for [[spoiler: Grima to get his hands on a Naga-infused artifact ''and'' someone loyal to him who can wield it. If Lucina went back in time to fix the Future Past timeline and failed (which is supported by the fact that Morgan exists even if you married a second-genner), then her Parallel Falchion is unaccounted for. We know Chrom!Morgan can use the Falchion, and it's implied that Lucina!Morgan can, too. Grima could have [[UnwittingPawn ordered either of them to kill Naga using the Parallel Falchion]], which would count as Naga's own power. All because [[NiceJobBreakingItHero you shipped the Avatar with Chrom or Lucina. Good job.]]]]

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** Actually there is [[FridgeHorror one way]] for [[spoiler: Grima [[spoiler:Grima to get his hands on a Naga-infused artifact ''and'' someone loyal to him who can wield it. If Lucina went back in time to fix the Future Past timeline and failed (which is supported by the fact that Morgan exists even if you married a second-genner), then her Parallel Falchion is unaccounted for. We know Chrom!Morgan can use the Falchion, and it's implied that Lucina!Morgan can, too. Grima could have [[UnwittingPawn ordered either of them to kill Naga using the Parallel Falchion]], which would count as Naga's own power. All because [[NiceJobBreakingItHero you shipped the Avatar with Chrom or Lucina. Good job.]]]]



** Heart of Grima was a figure of speech, note Validar also mentions Robin having all the markings. In Spotpass content, they even confirm it's the same as Holy Blood. Basically, Grima put some power in Robin's ancestor, Validar and his ancestors only got part of it, and Robin got the whole thing allowing Grima to possess him/her. As to why Grima doesn't just use a dragonstone like every other dragon, maybe no one really knows?

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** The Heart of Grima was a figure of speech, note Validar also mentions Robin having all the markings. In Spotpass content, they even confirm it's the same as Holy Blood. Basically, Grima put some power in Robin's ancestor, Validar and his ancestors only got part of it, and Robin got the whole thing allowing Grima to possess him/her. As to why Grima doesn't just use a dragonstone like every other dragon, maybe no one really knows?



* So Grima is a evil, super-powerful Dragon that will basically kill almost everybody in Ylisse and Valm, alongside the Risen. So, why is Validar so eager to do all of this when it could bring his death? What's in it for him and the Grimleal?

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* So Grima is a an evil, super-powerful Dragon that will basically kill almost everybody in Ylisse and Valm, alongside the Risen. So, why is Validar so eager to do all of this when it could bring his death? What's in it for him and the Grimleal?



** Because the only [[StarFox rabbits around]] [[MemeticMutation to tell him]] about that option also happen to be fighting against him, and they're sure not going to [[TooDumbToLive tell him how to beat them]].

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** Because the only [[StarFox [[VideoGame/StarFox rabbits around]] [[MemeticMutation to tell him]] about that option also happen to be fighting against him, and they're sure not going to [[TooDumbToLive tell him how to beat them]].



* Libra is often mentioned praying to gods and often uses "In Naga's name." Which would be fine, as he's a religious man, but he's also an ''Ylissean'' priest and one that is supposed to be directly supporting Emmeryn. Emmeryn is a follower of Naga and considered to be part of the Divine Dragon's chosen bloodline. So.. who exactly is Libra praying to? And why, when his closest "god" is a female dragon?

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* Libra is often mentioned praying to gods and often uses "In Naga's name." Which would be fine, as he's a religious man, but he's also an a ''Ylissean'' priest and one that is supposed to be directly supporting Emmeryn. Emmeryn is a follower of Naga and considered to be part of the Divine Dragon's chosen bloodline. So.. who exactly is Libra praying to? And why, when his closest "god" is a female dragon?



** Valm is an gigantic continent. With recently conquered states that may rebel at any time if they sense weakness, a million soldiers have to be spread out throughout the entire continent. How many soldiers does it take to occupy a chaotic and hostile nation? A million soldiers doesn't seem like enough for a continent that big and that recently conquered.

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** Valm is an a gigantic continent. With recently conquered states that may rebel at any time if they sense weakness, a million soldiers have to be spread out throughout the entire continent. How many soldiers does it take to occupy a chaotic and hostile nation? A million soldiers doesn't seem like enough for a continent that big and that recently conquered.



** [[spoiler: Lucina might also apply if you marry her as the male Avatar.]]

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** She may have wanted to avoid a named after herself situation. Or even risk having her parents decide to not name hre Lucina, and to give her a name not related to the mystery warrior they met a few times.

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** She may have wanted to avoid a named after herself situation. Or even risk having her parents decide to not name hre her Lucina, and to give her a name not related to the mystery warrior they met a few times.



** This is better suited for YMMV because it is mostly an opinion rather than a question that wants an answer. However, I agree that Henry is not a stepford smiler and is simply a bit insane. At least in the English translation. Apparently in the original Japanese version, he ''is'' a stepford smiler, so... maybe a little of both?

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** This is better suited for YMMV because it is mostly an opinion rather than a question that wants an answer. However, I agree that Henry is not a stepford smiler StepfordSmiler and is simply a bit insane. At least in the English translation. Apparently in the original Japanese version, he ''is'' a stepford smiler, so... maybe a little of both?



* Seeing as how [[spoiler: the Morgans fight under Grima in the Future Past,]] why didn't [[spoiler: Grima!Robin]] ever keep any of the children who aren't Ylissean royalty with him?

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* Seeing as how [[spoiler: the [[spoiler:the Morgans fight under Grima in the Future Past,]] why didn't [[spoiler: Grima!Robin]] [[spoiler:Grima!Robin]] ever keep any of the children who aren't Ylissean royalty with him?



* Why didn't Chrom and co. suspect the Avatar's origins from the beginning? His/her coat shares distinct similarities with the outfits of [[spoiler: Henry and Tharja,]] right down to the colour and creepy eye motif, so it's safe to say it's a [[spoiler: Plegian]] thing. It's understandable that Chrom might be ignorant of [[spoiler: Plegian fashion,]] but you'd think Emmeryn, who would be educated in the appearances and culture of her [[spoiler: increasingly hostile western neighbour,]] would figure something was up.
** Well, in the prologue, Frederick identifies the bandits based on their accent, but nobody ever makes any such comments about Robin. I guess because they don't ''sound'' [[spoiler: Plegian]], perhaps everyone just assumed that Robin either a) only has ''some'' [[spoiler: Plegian]] heritage and doesn't support them (since obviously, they're helping the Shepherds), or b) studied/visited [[spoiler: Plegia]] at some point and just happens to like their fashion.

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* Why didn't Chrom and co. suspect the Avatar's origins from the beginning? His/her coat shares distinct similarities with the outfits of [[spoiler: Henry [[spoiler:Henry and Tharja,]] right down to the colour and creepy eye motif, so it's safe to say it's a [[spoiler: Plegian]] [[spoiler:Plegian]] thing. It's understandable that Chrom might be ignorant of [[spoiler: Plegian [[spoiler:Plegian fashion,]] but you'd think Emmeryn, who would be educated in the appearances and culture of her [[spoiler: increasingly [[spoiler:increasingly hostile western neighbour,]] would figure something was up.
** Well, in the prologue, Frederick identifies the bandits based on their accent, but nobody ever makes any such comments about Robin. I guess because they don't ''sound'' [[spoiler: Plegian]], [[spoiler:Plegian]], perhaps everyone just assumed that Robin either a) only has ''some'' [[spoiler: Plegian]] [[spoiler:Plegian]] heritage and doesn't support them (since obviously, they're helping the Shepherds), or b) studied/visited [[spoiler: Plegia]] [[spoiler:Plegia]] at some point and just happens to like their fashion.



* Why couldn't Laurent (or any other of the kids in Ylisse, for that matter) have contacted Chrom and co. earlier than his chapter? Why did he go to the desert to look for Miriel, when he could have gone to Ylisstol or the Shepherd's barracks [[spoiler: if he was in the present for five years (Since you don't know how long Nah and Noire were there, they can be excused)?]] There has to be some way for the common people to contact the Shepherds for help. Why couldn't Laurent just have left a call?

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* Why couldn't Laurent (or any other of the kids in Ylisse, for that matter) have contacted Chrom and co. earlier than his chapter? Why did he go to the desert to look for Miriel, when he could have gone to Ylisstol or the Shepherd's barracks [[spoiler: if [[spoiler:if he was in the present for five years (Since you don't know how long Nah and Noire were there, they can be excused)?]] There has to be some way for the common people to contact the Shepherds for help. Why couldn't Laurent just have left a call?



** No idea for Panne, but I always assumed that Validar found a way to warp them all in. It may be short-distance, but he does seem to teleport in chapter 23 [[spoiler: after you defeat him the first time]], so it's possible the assassins got in that way.

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** No idea for Panne, but I always assumed that Validar found a way to warp them all in. It may be short-distance, but he does seem to teleport in chapter Chapter 23 [[spoiler: after [[spoiler:after you defeat him the first time]], so it's possible the assassins got in that way.



** See the WMG page for details. Tharja would go pretty badly with the rest of the court, not just because of her personality but because she's Plegian. Normally, marrying a Plegian would smoothen diplomatic relations, but if the only Plegian in the court is a {{Yandere}}, then there would be a lot of tension ([[spoiler: Robin is Plegian, but they don't know that. Even when they do find out, Robin's nice enough to not cause tensions]]). Cordelia doesn't have an explanation, but Miriel would be a horrible queen. Her methods of solving problems are logical but cold (case in point: her Supports with Libra) and some solutions just won't go well with citizens. There's a difference between "I'm doing this because I know what's best" and "I'm doing this for you."

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** See the WMG page for details. Tharja would go pretty badly with the rest of the court, not just because of her personality but because she's Plegian. Normally, marrying a Plegian would smoothen diplomatic relations, but if the only Plegian in the court is a {{Yandere}}, then there would be a lot of tension ([[spoiler: Robin ([[spoiler:Robin is Plegian, but they don't know that. Even when they do find out, Robin's nice enough to not cause tensions]]). Cordelia doesn't have an explanation, but Miriel would be a horrible queen. Her methods of solving problems are logical but cold (case in point: her Supports with Libra) and some solutions just won't go well with citizens. There's a difference between "I'm doing this because I know what's best" and "I'm doing this for you."



*** It's possible, at least in that particular timeline, that [[spoiler: Emmeryn still being alive, just brain damaged]] is canon. [[spoiler: Scarier thought, (an already possessing Robin) Grima could possibly have kept her alive just so he could impregnate a descendant of Marth and have a child with both lineages in his/her veins.]]

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*** It's possible, at least in that particular timeline, that [[spoiler: Emmeryn [[spoiler:Emmeryn still being alive, just brain damaged]] is canon. [[spoiler: Scarier [[spoiler:Scarier thought, (an already possessing Robin) Grima could possibly have kept her alive just so he could impregnate a descendant of Marth and have a child with both lineages in his/her veins.]]



** Robin was right next to Chrom when Lucina saved him. If I recall correctly, Robin and Chrom were talking, then an Assassin came. Lucina preformed a Dual Guard while shouting, "Father, no!" Then the assassin runs off. Chrom is incredulous at Lucina's outburst. Then Lucina asks to talk to him in private. Robin was there the whole time, and had the chance to see that Chrom doesn't know what's going on, either. The other women don't have that luxury. Sure, that doesn't justify the reactions of the others, but it would explain why Robin is so calm.

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** Robin was right next to Chrom when Lucina saved him. If I recall correctly, Robin and Chrom were talking, then an Assassin came. came, Lucina preformed performed a Dual Guard while shouting, "Father, no!" Then and then the assassin runs off. Chrom is incredulous at Lucina's outburst. Then outburst, then Lucina asks to talk to him in private. Robin was there the whole time, and had the chance to see that Chrom doesn't know what's going on, either. The other women don't have that luxury. Sure, that doesn't justify the reactions of the others, but it would explain why Robin is so calm.



** She was helping the people of Roseanne with any emergency procedures they needed while Virion was gone.

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** She may have wanted to avoid a named after herself situation. Or even risk having her parents decide to not name hre Lucina, and to give her a name not related to the mystery warrior they met a few times.
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** She was helping the people of Roseanne with any emergency procedures they needed while Virion was gone.

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* Why wasn't Cherche with Virion right from the start? Was she busy doing other things while Virion was in Ylisse pre-time skip?



* Why wasn't Cherche with Virion right from the start? Was she busy doing other things while Virion was in Ylisse pre-time skip?
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* It's been two thousand years since the first game. Why it looks barely different technology-wise?
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** Heart of Grima was a figure of speech, note Validar also mentions Robin having all the markings. In spot pass content, they even confirm its the same as holy blood. Basically Grima put some power in Robin's ancestor, Validar and his ancestors only got part of it, Robin got the whole thing allowing Grima to possess him. As to why Grima doesn't just use a dragonstone like every other dragon, no one really knows?

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** Heart of Grima was a figure of speech, note Validar also mentions Robin having all the markings. In spot pass Spotpass content, they even confirm its it's the same as holy blood. Basically Holy Blood. Basically, Grima put some power in Robin's ancestor, Validar and his ancestors only got part of it, and Robin got the whole thing allowing Grima to possess him. him/her. As to why Grima doesn't just use a dragonstone like every other dragon, maybe no one really knows?



** They do mention fate being unchangeable, but the Grimleal do al they can to help Grima, even defending him in the last chapter.

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** They do mention fate being unchangeable, but the Grimleal do al all they can to help Grima, even defending him in the last chapter.



** Future Grima, the possessed BadFuture Robin seemed to be the only thing holding the dragon Grima together without Robin as a host. Note that future Grima directs the present one with his movements like a puppeteer or conductor and that killing him destroys the present one too. There's no evidence pointing to possessed Robin being able to fly, so doing a barrel roll would cause future Grima a disneyVillainDeath and thus lead to present Grima's death too.

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** Future Grima, the possessed BadFuture Robin seemed to be the only thing holding the dragon Grima together without Robin as a host. Note that future Grima directs the present one with his movements like a puppeteer or conductor and that killing him destroys the present one too. There's no evidence pointing to possessed Robin being able to fly, so doing a barrel roll would cause future Future Grima a disneyVillainDeath DisneyVillainDeath and thus lead to present Grima's death too.



* Why on earth would Chrom want to recruit Walhart, an antagonist who is the killer of the parents of one of Chrom's allies (Say'ri). Wouldn't it be problematic to have two units with bad blood between them in the same army, especially in an army of TrueCompanions, not to mention a bit disrespectful to Say'ri.

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* Why on earth would Chrom want to recruit Walhart, an antagonist who is the killer of the parents of one of Chrom's allies (Say'ri). (Say'ri)? Wouldn't it be problematic to have two units with bad blood between them in the same army, especially in an army of TrueCompanions, not to mention a bit disrespectful to Say'ri.Say'ri?

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** That still raises the questions on where the degenerated dragons went, and why the Table and the emblem changed function



** Heart of Grima was a figure of speech, note Validar also mentions Robin having all the markings. In spot pass content, they even confirm its the same as holy blood. Basically Grima put some power in Robin's ancestor, Validar and his ancestors only got part of it, Robin got the whole thing allowing Grima to possess him. As to why Grima doesn't just use a dragonstone like every other dragon, no one really knows?



** They do mention fate being unchangeable, but the Grimleal do al they can to help Grima, even defending him in the last chapter.



** Future Grima, the possessed BadFuture Robin seemed to be the only thing holding the dragon Grima together without Robin as a host. Note that future Grima directs the present one with his movements like a puppeteer or conductor and that killing him destroys the present one too. There's no evidence pointing to possessed Robin being able to fly, so doing a barrel roll would cause future Grima a disneyVillainDeath and thus lead to present Grima's death too.



** Maybe it was present Grima that attempted the possession?



** If anything, Plegia got off worse than Ylisse. Ylisse invaded with the goal of genocide, and presumably had no problem killing women and children. They only had to withdraw because Plegia put enough stiff resistance that Ylisse lost too many soldiers and the current exalt who started the war died.
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* For a country that started a war under Emmeryn's father with the goal of complete extermination, Ylisse sure gets off lightly in the story. It gets handwaved away in that Ylisse lost a lot of soldiers and Emmeryn is devoted to peace now, but is it any wonder that the Plegians are still angry with Ylisse and doesn't buy her talk of peace, especially when Ylisse apparently gave nothing more than a written apology?

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* For a country that started a war under Emmeryn's father with the goal of complete extermination, Ylisse sure gets off lightly in the story. It gets handwaved away in that Ylisse lost a lot of soldiers and Emmeryn is devoted to peace now, but is it any wonder that the Plegians are still angry with Ylisse and doesn't buy her talk of peace, especially when Ylisse apparently gave nothing more than a written apology?



* For a country that started a war under Emmeryn's father with the goal of complete extermination, Ylisse sure gets off lightly in the story. It gets handwaved away in that Ylisse lost a lot of soldiers and Emmeryn is devoted to peace now, but is it any wonder that the Plegians are still angry with Ylisse and doesn't buy her talk of peace, especially when Ylisse apparently gave nothing more than a written apology?
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** If anything, Plegia got off worse than Ylisse. Ylisse invaded with the goal of genocide, and presumably had no problem killing women and children. They only had to withdraw because Plegia put enough stiff resistance that Ylisse lost too many soldiers and the current exalt who started the war died.


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* For a country that started a war under Emmeryn's father with the goal of complete extermination, Ylisse sure gets off lightly in the story. It gets handwaved away in that Ylisse lost a lot of soldiers and Emmeryn is devoted to peace now, but is it any wonder that the Plegians are still angry with Ylisse and doesn't buy her talk of peace, especially when Ylisse apparently gave nothing more than a written apology?
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*Why on earth would Chrom want to recruit Walhart, an antagonist who is the killer of the parents of one of Chrom's allies (Say'ri). Wouldn't it be problematic to have two units with bad blood between them in the same army, especially in an army of TrueCompanions, not to mention a bit disrespectful to Say'ri.

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