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* Let me point out another problem- news of this international crisis is being sent to a DJ who isn't in affiliation with the cult. How is he reporting on Middle Eastern terror attacks, Korean nuclear tests, and the U.S.'s responses if he has no way of knowing these things?
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** In any case, the AR-C isn't a pre-1986 gun. Its upper and lower receivers, the meat and bones here, are based on the Mega Arms MATEN AR-10 receivers shortened for 5.56. Mega Arms was founded in 2013. So either Ubisoft gets their knowledge of US gun laws from action movies or they simply didn't think a game where the majority of guns are commercial semi-autos wouldn't be very entertaining. I'd lean toward the latter.
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** In any case, the AR-C isn't a pre-1986 gun. Its upper and lower receivers, the meat and bones here, are based on the Mega Arms MATEN AR-10 receivers shortened for 5.56. Mega Arms was founded in 2013. So either Ubisoft gets their knowledge of US gun laws from action movies or they simply didn't think a game where the majority of guns are commercial semi-autos wouldn't would be very entertaining. I'd lean toward the latter.
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** In any case, the AR-C isn't a pre-1986 gun. Its upper and lower receivers, the meat and bones here, are based on the Mega Arms MATEN AR-10 receivers shortened for 5.56. Mega Arms was founded in 2013. So either Ubisoft gets their knowledge of US gun laws from action movies or they simply didn't think a game where the majority of guns are commercial semi-autos wouldn't be very entertaining. I'd lean toward the latter.
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** Receiving signals and transmitting them are two different things. I used to live in an area where the only route into town was down the side of a mountain into a valley. My SiriusXM and AM/FM radio worked fine, but I could forget about making any phone calls.
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** Fully-automatic weapons were banned in 1986, but, considering how many doomsday preppers there are in Hope County, it's highly likely that many of them illegally modified their guns to be full-auto, hiding said guns in their bunkers or buried in their backyards specifically in case of a scenario like what happens in the game. There's also the Eden's Gate cult themselves, who [[UnderStatement don't seem overly concerned with respecting federal law.]] On the other hand, judging by some of the weapon descriptions, it's more likely the developers simply didn't know much about guns and [[CriticalResearchFailure made the common mistake of believing that semi-auto weapons are rapid-fire rather than single-fire.]]
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** Fully-automatic weapons were banned in 1986, but, considering how many doomsday preppers there are in Hope County, it's highly likely that many of them illegally modified their guns to be full-auto, hiding said guns in their bunkers or buried in their backyards specifically in case of a scenario like what happens in the game. There's also the Eden's Gate cult themselves, who [[UnderStatement don't seem overly concerned with respecting federal law.]] On the other hand, judging by some of the weapon descriptions, it's more likely the developers simply didn't know much about guns and [[CriticalResearchFailure made the common mistake of believing that semi-auto weapons are rapid-fire rather than single-fire.]]
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** The closest thing I can think of to an explanation is that Burke, when he's first pulled from the Bliss, freaks out and tells everyone to leave him be before falling asleep. As to why they didn't afterwards restrain him in the slightest, disarm him, or in any way monitor his movements, I can only answer [[IdiotPlot plot convenience.]]
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** The closest thing I can think of to an explanation is that Burke, when he's first pulled from the Bliss, freaks out and tells everyone to leave him be before falling asleep. As to why they didn't afterwards restrain him in the slightest, disarm him, or in any way monitor his movements, I can only answer [[IdiotPlot plot convenience.]]
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*** A bit more easily, if they had one inside man within the Montana sheriff's department, they could possibly have one (or more) in the Montana National Guard smuggling out military lowers - or indeed entire rifles given the ubiquity of the AR-C specifically in Hope County (which looks less like the common AR-15 and has some very distinctly HK416 components which are not backwards comparable with the typical AR.)
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*** A bit more easily, if they had one inside man within the Montana sheriff's department, they could possibly have one (or more) in the Montana National Guard smuggling out military lowers - or indeed entire rifles given the ubiquity of the AR-C specifically in Hope County (which looks less like the common AR-15 and has some very distinctly HK416 [=HK416=] components which are not backwards comparable with the typical AR.)
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** Idiot plot indeed. Tracey rightly points out he can't be trusted after Faith had been in his head.
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* This might be better suited for NightmareFuel, but I felt like this needed to be confirmed by at least two players. When having your first Bliss vision/hallucination with Faith, she leads you up onto The Father statue, specifically the book. You have to [[spoiler:jump off to conclude the quest.]] But playing through this a few times, I've noticed that you can either land in two places: [[spoiler:either on the edge of a Bliss flower field near Hope County Jail, or at the bottom at the base of the statue admidst dead bodies (thus the NightmareFuel).]] I think the different location depends on whether if you [[spoiler:killed John and/or Jacob before starting Resistance in Faith's region]]
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* Okay so there's load of crazy contrivances around what bliss can do, allies being idiots and missing obvious clues that the heralds are infiltrating them with brainwashed agents (See: Faith and how complacent the sheriff is about the marshall wandering free with a weapon, and this complaint about Jacob's ManchurianAgent shenanigans with the player character) and such, but Jacob's brainwashing you to kill Eli really rubs rubs me the wrong way. Firstly, a point is made that the Whitetails are taking efforts to prevent Jacob knowing where the wolf's den is. Makes sense and okay, that's the least contrived bit, he either tracked someone there (he does big up his guys being super trackers, even if that's an InformedAttribute outside of the capture parties), or someone cracked. But beyond that, his conditioning of the deputy relies on him knowing both the internal layout of the bunker and where the soldiers and Eli himself will always happen to be within it, which are much harder to explain! It can't be the deputy showed him during one of the brainwashing sessions, because if you'd been playing out the conditioning drill for real in the actual bunker the fact that you were being conditioned would be even more blatant than it already was...
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* Okay so there's load of crazy contrivances around what bliss can do, allies being idiots and missing obvious clues that the heralds are infiltrating them with brainwashed agents (See: Faith and how complacent the sheriff is about the marshall wandering free with a weapon, and this complaint about Jacob's ManchurianAgent shenanigans with the player character) and such, but Jacob's brainwashing you to kill Eli really rubs rubs me the wrong way. Firstly, a point is made that the Whitetails are taking efforts to prevent Jacob knowing where the wolf's den is. Makes sense and okay, that's the least contrived bit, he either tracked someone there (he does big up his guys being super trackers, even if that's an InformedAttribute outside of the capture parties), or someone cracked. But beyond that, his conditioning of the deputy relies on him knowing both the internal layout of the bunker and where the soldiers and Eli himself will always happen to be within it, which are much harder to explain! It can't be the deputy showed him during one of the brainwashing sessions, because if you'd been playing out the conditioning drill for real in the actual bunker the fact that you were being conditioned would be even more blatant than it already was...
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** Where you land after the Leap of Faith depends on whether or not you have reached and ended the siege at the Hope County Jail. If you triggered the first Bliss meeting with Faith without reaching the jail, you will be teleported there to trigger that story mission. If you have completed that mission before triggering said hallucination, you will wake up at the foot of Joseph's statue.
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** https://www.unwantedfirearms.org/ all they need is a few people inside to get a pipeline of weapons, and they probably have people in Montana PDs who will slip the guns being destroyed to them.
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** Because the more rural areas of the US generally have a very small foreign population. Most immigrants congregate to the larger major cities.
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* The United State are a principal immigration country, but with the exeption of Dmitri, seems that no foreigners are in Hope County. Well considering that the series got charaters from all over the world, this is jarring.
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** Likely because the developers wanted an "authentic" experience regarding small-town American countryside, at least in regards to general public conceptions of an authentic experience.
** Likely because the developers wanted an "authentic" experience regarding small-town American countryside, at least in regards to general public conceptions of an authentic experience.
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** Also, like The Father's apparent ability to predict the future (and a lot of stuff in Far Cry) MaybeMagicMaybeMundane is at play here. It's possible that Faith(s) do have some kind of supernatural symbiosis with the bliss.
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*** A bit more easily, if they had one inside man within the Montana sheriff's department, they could possibly have one (or more) in the Montana National Guard smuggling out military lowers - or indeed entire rifles given the ubiquity of the AR-C specifically in Hope County (which looks less like the common AR-15 and has some very distinctly HK416 components which are not backwards comparable with the typical AR.)
** The 1986 ban was on selling new automatic weapons to civilians. Any that were legally acquired prior to then were grandfathered in and can be legally transferred between individuals as long as the recipient goes through the NFA paperwork and done according to state laws. Then again, that probably just explains any AR-Cs with non-Eden's Gate lowers more readily than it does Eden's Gate AR-Cs, since a private citizen with too much money to burn would be more likely to go through the paperwork.
** The 1986 ban was on selling new automatic weapons to civilians. Any that were legally acquired prior to then were grandfathered in and can be legally transferred between individuals as long as the recipient goes through the NFA paperwork and done according to state laws. Then again, that probably just explains any AR-Cs with non-Eden's Gate lowers more readily than it does Eden's Gate AR-Cs, since a private citizen with too much money to burn would be more likely to go through the paperwork.
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*The United State are a principal immigration country, but with the exeption of Dmitri, seems that no foreigners are in Hope County. Well considering that the series got charaters from all over the world, this is jarring.
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*The United State are a principal immigration country, but with the exeption of Dmitri, seems that no foreigners are in Hope County. Well considering that the series got charaters from all over the world, this is jarring.
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* Seems the nuke didn't happen and the county is free of cultists. Though, this is set after Nick's daughter is born. What does this say about the ending?
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* Seems the nuke didn't happen and the county is free of cultists. Though, this is set after Nick's daughter is born. What does this say about the ending?
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*** It's also worth noting that the Eden's Gate cult all carry rifles with a unique weapon skin, that specifically has a white (3D-printed?) lower receiver. The lower receiver is the part that contains the trigger group, so if all of the cult's guns have home-made lowers, then it would explain the illegal burst and full-auto settings. As for the local resistance, they're all either preppers or people familiar enough with guns to have modified their rifles shortly after the cult takeover.
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*** However... it is more then likely that, unless half of the time was spent in the Whitetail Mountians, more then a week or two had passed. As one of the efforts to brainwash the player involves knocking them out for what is stated to be around a week, as though in a attempt to starve them. The duration being somewhat confirmed as the food given shortly after waking up and being mocked about being hungry is almost right away devoured by the player as though out of desperation before they are treated to the talk about instincts and food. And reguardless, I imagine even a day of lost contact and not returning would be enough to raise concerns among the feds and provoke at the very least a search party.
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***K, but why though? Why go through 20-30 mins of gameplay for... seemingly no reason and then just not detailing the most important part of this? Not to mention just skipping over the 'They arrest Seed and live happily ever after' part. Its... just pointless. I am starting to have the opinion that the 'Nukes were just illusions made by bliss' are simply fans clutching to whatever they can to salvage a frankly terrible ending.
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***Quite frankly, I don't want the ending locked under DLC, thank you very much.
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**** Because that's a dumb way to chicken out of ending your story. By saying 'Yeah, the last 20-30 mins of gameplay never happened, but here are the credits' is a Massive Cop-Out. In fact, its blatantly a [[NoEnding No Ending]] situation. What ever was the point of droping the nukes, killing off literally every character except the one that you've spent the entire game to kill, leaving the player ziptied to a bed with dialogue implying we're about to be said Big Bad's rape and torture toy, and literally ending on dialogue of "I was right" from the Big Bad only to go 'lolNope. That ending wasn't real'. If that's not the ending, where IS the ending? So, no, quite frankly I think any writer who pulls such nonsense isn't a particuarly good writer.
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** A rather perplexing question. By all means, she should be no better off than you are under the bliss. My best guess (and this is really armchair, head-up-ass medical knowledge from a jackass, is that she just simply has a far greater tolerance for Bliss at high volumes than others that failed and became angels. It's like how one drink won't mess you up but it could knock another off his/her feet. That's the best answer I got and it's likely not even the right one, but it's the best I got.
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** A rather perplexing question. By all means, she should be no better off than you are under the bliss. My best guess (and this is really armchair, head-up-ass medical knowledge from a jackass, jackass), is that she just simply has a far greater tolerance for Bliss at high volumes than others that failed and became angels. It's like how one drink won't mess you up but it could knock another off his/her feet. That's the best answer I got and it's likely not even the right one, but it's the best I got.
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*** A series of notes you can find in Henbane River reveal that the Faith you meet in the game isn't the original Faith, and there have been a series of Faiths who all died. One explanation is that Joseph seeks out young women who are already drug users (and hence possibly already built up a resistance to mind-altering substances) and then he simply selects whichever one has the highest tolerance to Bliss and chooses them to be his new Faith, throwing them away once they finally succumb to the effects of the drug. The latest Faith might possibly be someone who hasn't been exposed to Bliss for much longer than the Deputy has.
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*** A series of notes you can find in Henbane River reveal that the Faith you meet in the game isn't the original Faith, and there have been a series of Faiths who all died. One explanation is that Joseph seeks out young women who are already drug users (and hence possibly already built up a resistance to mind-altering substances) and then he simply selects whichever one has the highest tolerance to Bliss and chooses them to be his new Faith, throwing them away once they finally succumb to the effects of the drug. The latest Faith might possibly be someone who hasn't been exposed to Bliss for much longer than the Deputy has.
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***It would also depend if they have a satellite radio subscription. In the US, SiriusXM, the major satellite radio company, is a subscription service. It's reasonable to assume such a thing would be the same in the FC universe as well.
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** A rather perplexing question. By all means, she should be no better off than you are under the bliss. My best guess (and this is really armchair, head-up-ass medical knowledge from a jackass, is that she just simply has a far greater tolerance for Bliss at high volumes than others that failed and became angels. It's like how one drink won't mess you up but it could knock another off his/her feet. That's the best answer I got and it's likely not even the right one, but it's the best I got.
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* This might be better suited for NightmareFuel, but I felt like this needed to be confirmed by at least two players. When having your first Bliss vision/hallucination with Faith, she leads you up onto The Father statue, specifically the book. You have to [[spoiler:jump off to conclude the quest.]] But playing through this a few times, I've noticed that you can either land in two places: [[spoiler:either on the edge of a Bliss flower field near Hope County Jail, or at the bottom at the base of the statue admidst dead bodies (thus the NightmareFuel).]] I think the different location depends on whether if you [[spoiler:killed John and/or Jacob before starting Resistance in Faith's region]]
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* This might be better suited for NightmareFuel, but I felt like this needed to be confirmed by at least two players. When having your first Bliss vision/hallucination with Faith, she leads you up onto The Father statue, specifically the book. You have to [[spoiler:jump off to conclude the quest.]] But playing through this a few times, I've noticed that you can either land in two places: [[spoiler:either on the edge of a Bliss flower field near Hope County Jail, or at the bottom at the base of the statue admidst dead bodies (thus the NightmareFuel).]] I think the different location depends on whether if you [[spoiler:killed John and/or Jacob before starting Resistance in Faith's region]]
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* Supposedly, the Angel condition is a result of overexposure to the Bliss fumes causing permanent damage to the victim's mental faculties, possibly similar to how Carbon Dioxide poisoning damages the brain by reducing its oxygen supply. Faith's entire bunker is CONSTANTLY being pumped full of Bliss fumes, in an enclosed environment that would only concentrate the fumes even more. If anything, Faith and her followers should all be dead, let alone Angels. Based on what we're told of the drug, it's difficult but not impossible to overdose on it, and high concentrations of the gas are shown to leave even Angels comatose. Faith has been exposed to Bliss longer than possibly anyone else, and if she's spent any time in her bunker at all, she should already be completely brain-dead. The Sheriff is shown to already be showing severe physical signs of Angel conversion after only spending what couldn't have been more than a few hours in her bunker. What's more, even if her followers had been able to take shelter in their bunker to survive the apocalypse like they had planned, they'd all turn into brain-dead zombies anyway.
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