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** Black Annis represents Jane's mental defenses against her deepest traumas which, due to her father's emotional, physical, and sexual abuse, instills in her a fear of men, at a base level. In shedding his former self's image in Jane's mind, its less about him literally not being a man, than him not being the threat Jane perceives in men. Which, in this case, entails shedding this image of himself unfamiliar to Jane, and presenting himself as the person she had connected to before. The language around this issue certainly leaves some to be desired, but what's clear is that its not talking about masculinity in the sense of gender identity, but the connotations and anxieties Jane has around masculinity in her perception.

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** Black Annis represents Jane's mental defenses against her deepest traumas which, due to her father's emotional, physical, and sexual abuse, instills in her a fear of men, at a base level. In shedding his former self's image in Jane's mind, its less about him literally not being a man, than him not being the threat Jane perceives in men. The amount of gesturing toward Cliff's groin here has to do with the fact that she was sexually assaulted: Its at the root of what she's afraid of in men. Which, in this case, entails shedding this image of himself unfamiliar to Jane, and presenting himself as the person she had connected to before. The language around this issue certainly leaves some to be desired, but what's clear is that its not talking about masculinity in the sense of gender identity, but the connotations and anxieties Jane has around masculinity in her perception.
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* In "Jane Patrol," Cliff is allowed into the well because he's "not a man." The montage playing and Black Annis' gestures towards Cliff's groin implies that this is because he doesn't have a penis. It seems really strange to me to equate gender with genitalia, especially with the previous episode "Danny Patrol" being so LGBTQ+ affirming and the original comic being most known for its run under a nonbinary writer and for being one of the first comics to have a transgender character. Can anyone explain this?

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* In "Jane Patrol," Cliff is allowed into the well because he's "not a man." The montage playing and Black Annis' gestures towards Cliff's groin implies that this is because he doesn't have a penis. It seems really strange to me to equate gender with genitalia, especially with the previous episode "Danny Patrol" being so LGBTQ+ affirming and the original comic being most known for its run under a nonbinary writer and for being one of the first comics to have a transgender character. Can anyone explain this?this?
** Black Annis represents Jane's mental defenses against her deepest traumas which, due to her father's emotional, physical, and sexual abuse, instills in her a fear of men, at a base level. In shedding his former self's image in Jane's mind, its less about him literally not being a man, than him not being the threat Jane perceives in men. Which, in this case, entails shedding this image of himself unfamiliar to Jane, and presenting himself as the person she had connected to before. The language around this issue certainly leaves some to be desired, but what's clear is that its not talking about masculinity in the sense of gender identity, but the connotations and anxieties Jane has around masculinity in her perception.
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** It's possible Danny is just playing along or can "feel" an orgasm because the other inhabitants of the street are experiencing one. They seem to have a telepathic/empathic connection to their inhabitants.

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** It's possible Danny is just playing along or can "feel" an orgasm because the other inhabitants of the street are experiencing one. They seem to have a telepathic/empathic connection to their inhabitants.inhabitants.
* In "Jane Patrol," Cliff is allowed into the well because he's "not a man." The montage playing and Black Annis' gestures towards Cliff's groin implies that this is because he doesn't have a penis. It seems really strange to me to equate gender with genitalia, especially with the previous episode "Danny Patrol" being so LGBTQ+ affirming and the original comic being most known for its run under a nonbinary writer and for being one of the first comics to have a transgender character. Can anyone explain this?
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* Why does Dorothy look like an ape? Her mother was hairy but otherwise looked fairly human...

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** Explained in the second season that his immortality comes from an outside source, a totem he wears that could be easily stolen or lost (or as it happens, bargained away in a desperate move). We don't know when he got it, but it's entirely likely that he began experimenting prior to acquiring it, and continued experimenting to find a means to live without it.



** Possibly, while what we see isn't *that* bad, he's only seeing it through Rita's own filter, and Rita hates herself. She possibly remembers what she did ''far'' worse than it was and he's taken her self-loathing-induced exaggeration at face value.



** He remained with the Dannyzens, and comes by later.



** Fully explained in season 2, Niles himself just isn't that skilled with robotics, and because of their issues Silas refused to work with him. It's possible that Silas could have done a better job, but he wasn't involved in the project and Niles just lacks his skill to do better.



** Each muscle does a different thing, his 'loosen straps' muscle is likely one that's being restrained by the straps.



** It possibly didn't know what to do long-term, and it was afraid Larry would die if it left him for too long to do anything.



** The material of the gauze is radiation dampening. It's specifically explained in a S2 flashback that they're specially made by Niles for the purpose of blocking radiation.



** Well yeah, logically Vic is just as guilty (assuming he did still cause the explosion), but he's still mad that Silas chose to save him and not her. Survivor's Guilt is nasty, and when given an outside entity to blame, the mind will make you blame them as much as you can. Let's remember that Vic's anger isn't meant to be rationl.



** The Titans show version of the DP aren't canon to the show.



** Officially, the shows are in separate continuity from one-another.



** He likely doesn’t possess the genitalia necessary to have one

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** He likely doesn’t possess the genitalia necessary to have oneone.


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**** A street that's sentient, can communicate via signs and other visual cues, can teleport, and lives off of the positive vibes of their denizens? Sure, they have sex organs and the capability to orgasm. With how many absurd things Danny possesses, orgasming organs hardly seems out of the realm of possibility.
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* How does Larry's gauze wrappings and coat prevent him from Chernobyling everyone around him to death exactly?
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** In Puppet Patrol, Heinrich von Fuchs's show says that Niles Caulder interrupted his time in the White Room that turned him into Mr. Nobody by shooting it up with him inside. Add to the fact that he led the original Doom Patrol who fought him regularly. Really, if you thing about it, he's had maybe 75 years to build up reasons to despise him.

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** In Puppet Patrol, Heinrich von Fuchs's show says that Niles Caulder interrupted his time in the White Room that turned him into Mr. Nobody by shooting it up with him inside. Add to the fact that he led the original Doom Patrol who fought him regularly. Really, if you thing think about it, he's had maybe 75 years to build up reasons to despise him.
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** I kept expecting it to be revealed that Victor didn't cause the explosion at all and it was just coincidental timing. Whenever they showed the footage, Vic throws the chemicals against the wall to his left but it looks like the explosion comes from the wall across him, perhaps originating in an adjacent room. But this is never pointed out or addressed so that may not have been the intention.
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** Brain death occurs maybe a few minutes after body death. Beyond that I have no idea. Silas did say Niles ignored every piece of advice he tried to offer so it may be simple pride or, more likely I think, Niles may have intentionally done a lousy job. He's not designing him to be a superhero, after all, [[spoiler: only a guinea pig.]]


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** In Puppet Patrol, Heinrich von Fuchs's show says that Niles Caulder interrupted his time in the White Room that turned him into Mr. Nobody by shooting it up with him inside. Add to the fact that he led the original Doom Patrol who fought him regularly. Really, if you thing about it, he's had maybe 75 years to build up reasons to despise him.

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