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* In "Utopia", Yana/Master had programmed his chameleon circuit to return his memory and turn him back into a Time Lord only when a TARDIS arrives, so that he can use it to travel back in time... But how can he be so sure a TARDIS would ever end up where he is? If none had ever come there, wouldn't Yana have died of old age?
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** Above is not quite correct. In the very beginning of the episode, the Doctor and Martha come out into the heat-venting room and then out into the ship's interior. Cath, Scanel, and Riley run to them, and they discover the ship is out of control toward the sun. When the Doctor asks why he can't hear engines, Cath says it went dead just four minutes earlier, and then Irena comes running as the aforementioned 29 doors slam shut on her heels. They hadn't thought of going through the doors because the doors weren't sealed yet.

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***Seems more likely that UNIT would take custody of the Master, as they're accustomed to handling people of his nature. They'd then keep him in a cell in the Tower of London until his regenerations ran out.



** That wasn't the conventional police, that was the Master's own version, whose only job appeared to literally just be to manipulate Francine and spy on Martha. Besides, they looked like they only had enough people to arrest the rest of the Joneses, but not give chase, and the Master branded the Doctor and co as terrorists ''after'' the event, so your arguement for them to give chase immediately due to that does not work.

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** That wasn't the conventional police, that was Metropolitan Police. That's the Master's own version, forces, whose only job appeared appears to literally just be to manipulate Francine and spy on Martha. Besides, they looked look like they only had enough people to arrest the rest of the Joneses, but not give chase, and the chase. The Master branded the Doctor and co as terrorists ''after'' they evaded the event, trap, so your arguement the argument for them to give chase immediately due to that does not work.work. They ''would'' however, be able to call in Martha's car's plate number and then the Master could use London's extensive CCTV network to send the police to wherever they were.
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** He would have been charged with coordinating the assassination of the President of the United States. Besides, the Doctor planned on imprisoning the Master in his TARDIS, so even if the UK and US were to fight over who tries and imprisons him, they have no way to actually get the man since he's already imprisoned in a different dimension, and there most likely would be a cover-up for the Master's disappearance that wouldn't arouse suspicion.


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** That wasn't the conventional police, that was the Master's own version, whose only job appeared to literally just be to manipulate Francine and spy on Martha. Besides, they looked like they only had enough people to arrest the rest of the Joneses, but not give chase, and the Master branded the Doctor and co as terrorists ''after'' the event, so your arguement for them to give chase immediately due to that does not work.
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** Francine's initial suspicion and dislike for the Doctor seems to stem from the way their introduction went. Martha's faux pas, the Doctor's "I've heard so much about you!", him being a good-looking single bloke, and being vague about how he knows Martha, is enough to raise red flags with Francine, especially when Francine is already fiercely determined that Martha do well in her studies.[[note]]Francine, like Jackie, actually displays a bit of classism with this attitude, not wanting Martha to throw her studies away for some worthless bloke. It's actually an inverse of Jackie's initial "you belong here on the estate, not out exploring the universe" attitude towards Rose time-traveling with the Doctor[[/note]] She sees him as a threat to Martha's career, and then The Master's men tell her that the Doctor is also a threat to Martha's life. So she's being manipulated to be suspicious of the Doctor from the start.

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** Francine's initial suspicion and dislike for the Doctor seems to stem from the way their introduction went. Martha's faux pas, the Doctor's "I've heard so much about you!", him being a good-looking single bloke, and being vague about how he knows Martha, is enough to raise red flags with Francine, especially when Francine is already fiercely determined that Martha do well in her studies.[[note]]Francine, like Jackie, actually displays a bit of classism with this attitude, not wanting Martha to throw her studies away for some worthless bloke. It's actually an inverse of Jackie's initial "you belong here on the estate, not out exploring the universe" attitude towards Rose time-traveling with the Doctor[[/note]] She sees him as a threat to Martha's career, and then The Master's men tell her that the Doctor is also a threat to Martha's life. So she's being manipulated to be suspicious of the Doctor from the start. Still, the writers took her from 0 to 60 way too fast.
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* So when Martha races over to her parents' house with the Doctor and Jack, she stops just in time to see her parents being arrested. Miss Dexter orders the police to open fire on them, and they retreat as the police begin shooting. Big question is, why don't the police give chase to them? The Master has branded them as terrorists, so it would make sense for the police to immediately give chase as soon as Martha flees.
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*** We don't see what the Family were doing before the episode starts. Just a WMG, but it's possible they had already crossed the line when they started pursuing the Doctor (They are sadists after all, and we see one of their ray-gun blasts, so they must have killed and possessed somebody at that point in order to shoot at him.) The Doctor knew they would need a severe punishment, but was too afraid of himself and what he'd do to mete it out their and then.

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*** We don't see what the Family were doing before the episode starts. Just a WMG, but it's possible From the looks of it, they had already crossed the line when they started pursuing the Doctor (They are sadists after all, and we see one of their ray-gun blasts, so they must have killed and possessed somebody at that point in order to shoot at him.) The Doctor knew they would need a severe punishment, but was too afraid of himself and what he'd do to mete it out their and then.



*** That accusation of Joan's really gets on my nerves: “Answer me this. Just one question, that’s all. If the Doctor had never visited us… if he’d never chosen this place on a whim, would anybody here have died?" It's annoying because 1) the Doctor didn’t choose the place himself at all, the TARDIS did, and 2) it certainly wasn’t on a whim. He hoped, perhaps naively, that hiding would avoid any deaths at all, except for the natural deaths of the Family. And the look in his eyes when Joan fires that question at him just hurts. She doesn’t know it, but this is a man who can always find some way to blame himself for anything that goes wrong in his general vicinity. He didn’t need her help beating himself up over what happened, and he certainly didn’t need Monday morning quarterbacking from someone who doesn’t even have half of the details. Before anyone points it out, I know this is her reaction to his unfair suggestion that she travel with him. The way he handles that is… well, it shows off his abysmal relationship skills better than almost anything else we see in season 3. I’m not sure what he thought would happen if she went with him, or how it would make up for her losing the man she loved, but it was badly done.\\

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*** That accusation of Joan's really gets on my nerves: makes no sense. “Answer me this. Just one question, that’s all. If the Doctor had never visited us… if he’d never chosen this place on a whim, would anybody here have died?" It's annoying because I realize she doesn't know the whole story, but 1) the Doctor didn’t choose the place himself at all, the TARDIS did, and 2) it certainly wasn’t on a whim. He hoped, perhaps naively, that hiding would avoid any deaths at all, except for the natural deaths of the Family. And the look in his eyes when Joan fires that question at him just hurts. She doesn’t know it, but this is a man who can always find some way to blame himself for anything that goes wrong in his general vicinity. He didn’t need her help beating himself up over what happened, and he certainly didn’t need Monday morning quarterbacking from someone who doesn’t even have half of the details. Before anyone points it out, I know this is her reaction to his unfair suggestion that she travel with him. The way he handles that is… well, it shows off his abysmal relationship skills better than almost anything else we see in season 3. I’m not sure what he thought would happen if she went with him, or how it would make up for her losing the man she loved, but it was badly done.\\



** The Doctor’s unique brand of mercy is, “Never take down the bad guys without giving them a chance to back down first.” It starts all the way back in "Rose" when he tells Rose that he can’t just wipe out the Nestene Consciousness without giving them a chance first. By the time they meet the Dalek in Van Statten's museum, that ideal has been repeated to Rose so many times that she’s shocked by the Doctor’s absolutely merciless approach to the Dalek. In "Parting of the Ways", he chooses to be a coward over killing everyone on earth in the process of wiping out the Daleks, even though he knows humanity will be harvested by the Daleks if he doesn’t stop them.\\

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** The Doctor’s unique brand of mercy is, “Never take down the bad guys without giving them a chance to back down first.” It starts all the way back in "Rose" when he tells Rose that he can’t just wipe out the Nestene Consciousness without giving them a chance first. By the time they meet the Dalek in Van Statten's museum, that ideal has been repeated to Rose so many times that she’s shocked by the Doctor’s absolutely merciless approach to the Dalek. In "Parting of the Ways", he chooses to be a coward over killing everyone on earth Earth in the process of wiping out the Daleks, even though he knows humanity will be harvested by the Daleks if he doesn’t stop them.\\
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**Living for 38 years knowing ''the exact day he was going to die'' can't have been good for Billy mentally.
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*I always found Billy's fate to be a bit weird once I started thinking about it a bit more. 38 years isn't too long a time frame, yet he's on death's door when we see him again. Worse, when I looked into it, the actor was only 21 when the episode came out, so assuming Billy's the same age, he shouldn't even be in his 60's yet...
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** Francine's initial suspicion and dislike for the Doctor seems to stem from the way their introduction went. The Doctor's "I've heard so much about you!", him being a good-looking single bloke, and being vague about how he knows Martha, is enough to raise red flags with Francine, especially when Francine is already fiercely determined that Martha do well in her studies.[[note]]Francine, like Jackie, actually displays a bit of classism with this attitude, not wanting Martha to throw her studies away for some worthless bloke; the inverse of Jackie's initial "you belong here on the estate, not out exploring the universe" attitude towards Rose time-traveling with the Doctor[[/note]] She sees him as a threat to Martha's career, and then The Master's men tell her that the Doctor is also a threat to Martha's life. So she's being manipulated to be suspicious of the Doctor from the start.
*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him, an agency which just so happened to employ Francine and Clive's late niece Adeola, who was killed indirectly by the Doctor, they can play into Francine's fears. In fact, it would make sense if he used Adeola's death to manipulate Francine here. You have to remember that the Master arrived in London around the same time as the Sycorax invasion. And since the Master was Minister of Defence at the time (and was the one who gave the orders for the tanks to shoot down the Racnoss webstar), he would have known immediately that the weapon that shot down the Sycorax ship was well beyond Earth's capabilities, and he would have learned about Torchwood. Imagine his gleeful delight at discovering there was a secret organisation on the Doctor's pet planet with the charter purpose of stopping him.

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** Francine's initial suspicion and dislike for the Doctor seems to stem from the way their introduction went. The Martha's faux pas, the Doctor's "I've heard so much about you!", him being a good-looking single bloke, and being vague about how he knows Martha, is enough to raise red flags with Francine, especially when Francine is already fiercely determined that Martha do well in her studies.[[note]]Francine, like Jackie, actually displays a bit of classism with this attitude, not wanting Martha to throw her studies away for some worthless bloke; the bloke. It's actually an inverse of Jackie's initial "you belong here on the estate, not out exploring the universe" attitude towards Rose time-traveling with the Doctor[[/note]] She sees him as a threat to Martha's career, and then The Master's men tell her that the Doctor is also a threat to Martha's life. So she's being manipulated to be suspicious of the Doctor from the start.
*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about how the Doctor tends to recruit young women of Martha's age to be his companions, plus there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him, an agency which just so happened to employ Francine and Clive's late niece Adeola, who was killed indirectly by the Doctor, they can play into Francine's fears. In fact, it would make sense if he used Adeola's death to manipulate Francine here.fears. You have to remember that the Master arrived in London around the same time as the Sycorax invasion. And since the Master was Minister of Defence at the time (and was the one who gave the orders for the tanks to shoot down the Racnoss webstar), he would have known immediately that the weapon that shot down the Sycorax ship was well beyond Earth's capabilities, and he would have learned about Torchwood. Imagine his gleeful delight at discovering there was a secret organisation on the Doctor's pet planet with the charter purpose of stopping him.
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*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him, an agency which just so happened to employ Francine and Clive's late niece Adeola, who was killed indirectly by the Doctor, they can play into Francine's fears. In fact, it would make sense if he used Adeola's death to manipulate Francine here. You have to remember that the Master arrived in London around the same time as the Sycorax invasion. He would have have known immediately that the weapon that shot down the Sycorax ship was well beyond Earth's capabilities, and he would have learned about Torchwood. Imagine his gleeful delight at discovering there was a secret organisation on the Doctor's pet planet with the charter purpose of stopping him.

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*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him, an agency which just so happened to employ Francine and Clive's late niece Adeola, who was killed indirectly by the Doctor, they can play into Francine's fears. In fact, it would make sense if he used Adeola's death to manipulate Francine here. You have to remember that the Master arrived in London around the same time as the Sycorax invasion. He And since the Master was Minister of Defence at the time (and was the one who gave the orders for the tanks to shoot down the Racnoss webstar), he would have have known immediately that the weapon that shot down the Sycorax ship was well beyond Earth's capabilities, and he would have learned about Torchwood. Imagine his gleeful delight at discovering there was a secret organisation on the Doctor's pet planet with the charter purpose of stopping him.
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** Billy needs to stay behind to put the Easter Egg on the DVDs because the information in Sally's envelope says that's what he will do. To do anything else would tear a hole in the fabric of space and time and destroy two-thirds of the universe.

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** Billy needs to stay behind to put the Easter Egg on the DVDs [=DVDs=] because the information in Sally's envelope says that's what he will do. To do anything else would tear a hole in the fabric of space and time and destroy two-thirds of the universe.

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*** No, it doesn't go quite like that... First he uses his wits to defeat them, and only ''after'' that does he subject them to a FateWorseThanDeath. If he'd not been pissed of, he could've simply defeated them and then handed them over to the Shadow Proclamation (or some comparable authority) to be imprisoned.
*** We don't see what the Family were doing before the episode starts. Just a WMG, but it's possible they had already crossed the line when they started pursuing the Doctor (They are sadists after all, and we see one of their ray-gun blasts, so they must have killed and possessed somebody at that point in order to fire it.) The Doctor knew they would need a severe punishment, but was too afraid of himself and what he'd do to mete it out their and then.

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*** No, it doesn't go quite like that... First he uses his wits to defeat them, and only ''after'' that does he subject them to a FateWorseThanDeath. If he'd not been pissed of, off, he could've simply defeated them and then handed them over to the Shadow Proclamation (or some comparable authority) to be imprisoned.
*** We don't see what the Family were doing before the episode starts. Just a WMG, but it's possible they had already crossed the line when they started pursuing the Doctor (They are sadists after all, and we see one of their ray-gun blasts, so they must have killed and possessed somebody at that point in order to fire it.shoot at him.) The Doctor knew they would need a severe punishment, but was too afraid of himself and what he'd do to mete it out their and then.


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***That accusation of Joan's really gets on my nerves: “Answer me this. Just one question, that’s all. If the Doctor had never visited us… if he’d never chosen this place on a whim, would anybody here have died?" It's annoying because 1) the Doctor didn’t choose the place himself at all, the TARDIS did, and 2) it certainly wasn’t on a whim. He hoped, perhaps naively, that hiding would avoid any deaths at all, except for the natural deaths of the Family. And the look in his eyes when Joan fires that question at him just hurts. She doesn’t know it, but this is a man who can always find some way to blame himself for anything that goes wrong in his general vicinity. He didn’t need her help beating himself up over what happened, and he certainly didn’t need Monday morning quarterbacking from someone who doesn’t even have half of the details. Before anyone points it out, I know this is her reaction to his unfair suggestion that she travel with him. The way he handles that is… well, it shows off his abysmal relationship skills better than almost anything else we see in season 3. I’m not sure what he thought would happen if she went with him, or how it would make up for her losing the man she loved, but it was badly done.\\
The worst part about this is that the fandom has assimilated it. There seems to be a universal understanding that the Doctor was wrong to hide, which is not true. It was misguided, yes, but it was a decision made on the fly (not on a whim) with very little time to consider all the options, and it was made with the genuine hope that if he hid away for a few months, the Family would let it go and die off. There’s nothing wrong about wanting to find a solution to the problem that would end in no deaths.
***Also on the table is how much one assumes the Doctor thought through his decision, and the possible outcomes he imagined. Watching the flashbacks, he probably had no time to sit down and weigh pros and cons, especially not when what he’s been told about the chameleon arch is that it will perfectly disguise a Time Lord. Just that would have been enough to suggest that using the arch to hide would mean no one had to die. He had no reason to doubt the plan would work, so why would he take precious time to consider what might happen if it didn’t work? And having his mercy exploited does not mean choosing to show mercy was the wrong choice. The responsibility for all the deaths still lays at the feet of the Family of Blood, who chose to hunt him down despite being given the option to let it go.

**The Doctor’s unique brand of mercy is, “Never take down the bad guys without giving them a chance to back down first.” It starts all the way back in "Rose" when he tells Rose that he can’t just wipe out the Nestene Consciousness without giving them a chance first. By the time they meet the Dalek in Van Statten's museum, that ideal has been repeated to Rose so many times that she’s shocked by the Doctor’s absolutely merciless approach to the Dalek. In "Parting of the Ways", he chooses to be a coward over killing everyone on earth in the process of wiping out the Daleks, even though he knows humanity will be harvested by the Daleks if he doesn’t stop them.\\
Ten might be a “no second chances” kind of man, but he still gives that first chance, almost every time–often along with a warning that this is their one chance. And he often waits to find out exactly how bad the Evil Plan is before deciding how severely he’ll deal with the villain/monster. (An example being "The Fires of Pompeii" when he looks for confirmation that the whole planet is at stake)
***Then in Eleven’s run, there’s "A Town Called Mercy," which is an entire episode about why it’s important for powerful people to show mercy. They weren’t even trying to bury the lede. The outcry from fans against the Doctor tricking the missiles to latch onto Solomon’s ship in “Dinosaurs on a Spaceship” derives directly from the fact that it is not a merciful act. (Although, like everyone else, Solomon was given a chance.)
***For the Doctor, mercy is viewed as a necessary control upon his otherwise scary power. When Madame Kovarian mocks him about the rules a good man has, he says good men don’t need rules, and this is not the time to find out why he has so many. The Doctor keeps mercy as his first option precisely because if he did not, he would be a tyrant without equal. Think about what he told Jack when they talked about Rose taking in the vortex–if a Time Lord did that, they’d become a vengeful god. He’s very aware of his power and of the constant temptation to allow that power to corrupt, and so he clothes himself in mercy instead.

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**Another reason, from a writing standpoint, for setting the story in 1913, was so there would be no room for ambiguity over how intimate John Smith's relationship with Nurse Redfern was. Not that people didn't have premarital and extramarital sex in 1913, but considering she at least would have lost her job, it would be much much less likely. So they could do a whole romance with affection that stretched out over 2 months, and no one would wonder if they slept together. Plus romance in period pieces is automatically more romantic.



** They killed at least 10 people (the four bodies they took over as hosts, plus the veteran at the dance, the MC at the dance, Mr. Philips, Mr. Rocastle, Lucy Cartwright's parents, and probably a handful more directly that we didn't see, plus any injuries/fatalities when they blasted the town). It was the worst abuse of the Doctor's mercy. Plus, the poetic justice of letting them have exactly what they'd been after fits the overall theme of S3: "a longer life isn't necessarily a better one."

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** They killed at least 10 people (the four bodies they took over as hosts, plus the veteran at the dance, the MC at the dance, Mr. Philips, Mr. Rocastle, Lucy Cartwright's parents, and probably a handful more directly that we didn't see, plus any injuries/fatalities when they blasted the town). It That was the worst abuse of the Doctor's mercy. Plus, the poetic justice of letting them have exactly what they'd been after fits the overall theme of S3: the season, "a longer life isn't necessarily a better one."
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*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him, an agency which just so happened to employ Francine and Clive's late niece Adeola, who was killed indirectly by the Doctor,[[note]]Yes, the Doctor wasn't the one responsible for Adeola's death; that was the Cybermen's doing, yet it was the Doctor who disabled the earpods the Cybermen were controlling Adeola with[[/note]] they can play into Francine's fears.

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*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him, an agency which just so happened to employ Francine and Clive's late niece Adeola, who was killed indirectly by the Doctor,[[note]]Yes, the Doctor wasn't the one responsible for Adeola's death; that was the Cybermen's doing, yet it was the Doctor who disabled the earpods the Cybermen were controlling Adeola with[[/note]] Doctor, they can play into Francine's fears.fears. In fact, it would make sense if he used Adeola's death to manipulate Francine here. You have to remember that the Master arrived in London around the same time as the Sycorax invasion. He would have have known immediately that the weapon that shot down the Sycorax ship was well beyond Earth's capabilities, and he would have learned about Torchwood. Imagine his gleeful delight at discovering there was a secret organisation on the Doctor's pet planet with the charter purpose of stopping him.
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** Francine's initial suspicion and dislike for the Doctor stemmed from the way their introduction went. The Doctor's "I've heard so much about you!", him being a good-looking single bloke, and being vague about how he knows Martha, is enough to raise red flags with Francine, especially when Francine is already fiercely determined that Martha do well in her studies. She sees him as a threat to Martha's career, and then The Master's men tell her that the Doctor is also a threat to Martha's life. So she's being manipulated to be suspicious of the Doctor from the start.
*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him, an agency which Francine and Clive's late niece Adeola worked at, and who was killed indirectly by the Doctor, they can play into Francine's fears.
*** This is arguably one example of many situations where the Doctor would've had it much easier if he still had Rose by his side to smooth things over. If Rose were still there, she'd have been able to convince Francine that the Doctor was not this secret boyfriend of Martha's and/or trying to distract Martha from her studies, maybe even come up with a plausible cover story to explain how they know Martha. There's at least [[Fanfic/BeingToTimelessness one fanfic]] that shows that this would've had the effect of softening Francine's concerns about the Doctor to her just being worried about Martha going along with two people who do dangerous work for a living. And it'd also have the long-term effect of her being less inclined to believe the Master's lies. (If that happened, the Master would've probably had to resort to extortion, such as kidnapping Tish, and blackmail Francine into betraying Martha)

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** Francine's initial suspicion and dislike for the Doctor stemmed seems to stem from the way their introduction went. The Doctor's "I've heard so much about you!", him being a good-looking single bloke, and being vague about how he knows Martha, is enough to raise red flags with Francine, especially when Francine is already fiercely determined that Martha do well in her studies. [[note]]Francine, like Jackie, actually displays a bit of classism with this attitude, not wanting Martha to throw her studies away for some worthless bloke; the inverse of Jackie's initial "you belong here on the estate, not out exploring the universe" attitude towards Rose time-traveling with the Doctor[[/note]] She sees him as a threat to Martha's career, and then The Master's men tell her that the Doctor is also a threat to Martha's life. So she's being manipulated to be suspicious of the Doctor from the start.
*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him, an agency which just so happened to employ Francine and Clive's late niece Adeola worked at, and Adeola, who was killed indirectly by the Doctor, Doctor,[[note]]Yes, the Doctor wasn't the one responsible for Adeola's death; that was the Cybermen's doing, yet it was the Doctor who disabled the earpods the Cybermen were controlling Adeola with[[/note]] they can play into Francine's fears.
*** This is arguably one example of many situations where the Doctor would've had it much easier if he still had Rose by his side to smooth things over. If Rose were still there, she'd one of two things would've happened: 1) if Francine still slaps the Doctor, Rose would have given her a dressing down (to the point of Francine feeling guilty enough to apologize, but said apology gets cut off by the crash from Lazarus killing the paramedics), or 2) earlier in the evening, when Martha is introducing the Doctor, Rose would have been able to convince Francine that the Doctor was not this secret boyfriend of Martha's and/or trying to distract Martha from her studies, maybe even come up with a plausible cover story to explain how they know Martha. There's at least [[Fanfic/BeingToTimelessness one fanfic]] that shows that this would've had the effect of softening Francine's concerns about the Doctor to her just being worried about Martha going along with two people who do dangerous work for a living. And it'd also have the long-term effect of her being less inclined to believe the Master's lies. (If that happened, the Master would've probably had to resort to extortion, such as kidnapping Tish, and blackmail Francine into betraying Martha)

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*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him... hard to blame Francine for being terrified.

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*** And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him... hard to blame him, an agency which Francine for being terrified.and Clive's late niece Adeola worked at, and who was killed indirectly by the Doctor, they can play into Francine's fears.



* Why did the Family give John the [[SadisticChoice sadistic choice]]? They only wanted John to change back, which not killing Martha and Joan would incentivisise John to do, but why the choice?

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* Why did the Family give John the [[SadisticChoice sadistic choice]]? They only wanted John to change back, which not killing Martha and Joan would incentivisise incentivise John to do, but why the choice?



*** The Doctor told Martha that he should have just enough residual awareness to "let Martha in" and have her be someone that John Smith knows and has no problem accompanying him. If he saw it before Martha could hide it someplace or caught her having it at some point in the two months Martha had been working there (and given how important it was, Martha was probably going to keep it with her) then his residual awareness of the watch could make him identify it as his and reclaim it. Martha couldn't really fight this or risk John abandoning her. I think the residual awareness of the watch is established later with Yana as there is little reason he'd always keep a watch he thinks doesn't even work with him at all times without some sort of prompting. That the watch ''might'' have been too nice for Martha (but you say it isn't) was really only secondary. It could be a complete piece of trash but if John identified it as ''his'' piece of trash then he'd confiscate it from Martha.

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*** The Doctor told Martha that he should have just enough residual awareness to "let Martha in" and have her be someone that John Smith knows and has no problem accompanying him. If he saw it before Martha could hide it someplace or caught her having it at some point in the two months Martha had been working there (and given how important it was, Martha was probably going to keep it with her) then his residual awareness of the watch could make him identify it as his and reclaim it. Martha couldn't really fight this or risk John abandoning her. I think the The residual awareness of the watch is established later with Professor Yana in "Utopia," as there is little reason he'd always keep a watch he thinks doesn't even work with him at all times without some sort of prompting. That the watch ''might'' have been too nice for Martha (but you say it isn't) was really only secondary. It could be a complete piece of trash but if John identified it as ''his'' piece of trash then he'd confiscate it from Martha.



** They had time to discuss the details, so maybe he took the time to record the video before he used it.

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** They had time to discuss the details, so maybe he took the time offscreen to record the video before he used it.



** I really side-eye the situations the writers chose to put Martha in. I understand “Human Nature” was based on a novel that was set in 1914. But the writers did little to make that an easier situation for their black companion. I don’t blame the Doctor for that, because the Doctor wasn’t actually there. He was in the watch. The Doctor also didn’t choose the time or place they ended up–the TARDIS did that.



** They killed at least 10 people (the four bodies they took over as hosts, plus the veteran at the dance, the MC at the dance, Mr. Philips, Mr. Rocastle, Lucy Cartwright's parents, and probably a handful more directly that we didn't see, plus any injuries/fatalities when they blasted the town). It was the worst abuse of the Doctor's mercy. Plus, the poetic justice of letting them have exactly what they'd been after fits the overall theme of S3: "a longer life isn't necessarily a better one."



* Given in the Series 6 premiere "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon" that the Eleventh Doctor and company brought up the Silent's "You should kill us all on sight" broadcast in July 1969, how early were the Tenth Doctor, Martha, and Billy dropped by the Angels before that?

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* Given in the Series 6 premiere "The Impossible Astronaut"/"Day of the Moon" that the Eleventh Doctor and company brought up the Silent's "You should kill us all on sight" broadcast in July 1969, how early were the Tenth Doctor, Martha, and Billy Shipton dropped by the Angels before that?



** If Plan B fails, the Doctor could be dead. "Turn Left" tells us what happens next. This is generally regarded as a bad thing.

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** If Plan B fails, the Doctor could be dead.killed. "Turn Left" tells us what happens next. This is generally regarded as a bad thing.



** Reason: Martha was only able to escape from the Master's ship because she was wearing the Perception Filter, to prevent her from being seen. The perception filter can only work on one person at a time.

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** Reason: Martha was only able to escape from the Master's ship because she was wearing the Perception Filter, to prevent her from being seen. The perception filter can only work on one person at a time.



*** As someone else noted above, the only person she's close enough to touch without moving is the Doctor. And by this point, the Doctor's probably made it clear he's not going anywhere. If she makes a sudden movement or it looks like she's obviously going to make a break for it one of the Master's lackeys could see past the perception filter and shoot her and the person she was trying to rescue. Staying still and teleporting out of there by herself is probably the safest option.
*** Jack was dead on the other side of the room. Anyone else would be more trouble than it was worth. Plot-wise, Jack wasn't interesting, for it wouldn't take him as much effort as it took her AND it wouldn't be as dangerous. It's important for the hero(ine) to take the lonely path in order to achieve something. The Master wouldn't track her down as crazily as he'd track the Doctor down, and probably even The Doctor has a harder time to hide from him than her, because again, they know each other way too well.
*** Of course, if she ''had'' rescued Jack, then he would have been able to bring Torchwood Three along for the ride. And as we see in ''Children of the Earth'' and ''Miracle Day'', they work best when their backs are up against the wall.

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*** As someone else noted above, the only person she's close enough to touch without moving is the Doctor. And by this point, the Doctor's probably made it clear he's not going anywhere. If she makes a sudden movement or it looks like she's obviously going to make a break for it one of it, the Master's lackeys could guards would see past the perception filter and shoot her and the person she was trying to rescue. Staying still and teleporting out of there by herself is probably the safest option.
*** Jack was dead on the other side of the room. Anyone else would be more trouble than it was worth. Plot-wise, Jack wasn't interesting, for it wouldn't take him as much effort as it took her AND it wouldn't be as dangerous. It's important for the hero(ine) to take the lonely path in order to achieve something. The Master wouldn't track her down as crazily as he'd track the Doctor down, and probably even The Doctor has a harder time to hide from him than her, because again, they know each other way too well.\n*** [[note]] Of course, if she ''had'' rescued Jack, then he would have been able to bring Torchwood Three along for the ride. And as we see in ''Children of the Earth'' and ''Miracle Day'', they work best when their backs are up against the wall.[[/note]] It's important for the hero(ine) to take the lonely path in order to achieve something. The Master wouldn't track her down as crazily as he'd track the Doctor down, and probably even The Doctor has a harder time to hide from him than her, because again, they know each other way too well.

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* So a man creates technology that allows a human to cheat death by renewing their entire body near the point of death so they can live longer. Predictably it doesn't work properly. The Doctor berates the inventor, saying that mortals shouldn't be doing this sort of thing. He even specifically says it's against the laws of nature. But here's the thing. Time Lords use this technology! He's used it himself 9 times at this point. Hypocritical much?

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* So a man Lazarus creates technology that allows a human to cheat death by renewing their entire body near the point of death so they can live longer. Predictably it doesn't work properly. The Doctor berates the inventor, Lazarus, saying that mortals shouldn't be doing this sort of thing. He even specifically says it's against the laws of nature. But here's the thing. Time Lords use this technology! He's used it himself 9 times at this point. Hypocritical much?



** Note that the Time Lords are pretty familiar with regeneration energy and all its implications, while Lazarus clearly has very little idea what he's dealing with. So the Doctor could be saying, in essence, "You can't expect to just instantly jump from mortal to poof — immortal, you've got to learn in reasonable steps". It also could be that if anyone understands WhoWantsToLiveForever, it's the Doctor.
* Why does Francine side with a complete stranger, who she only has his word for on what he says and the information he gives, over the man who is friend of her daughters and selflessly fought with a giant bug eyed monster to protect her, her family and anyone else.
** She disliked the Doctor immediately (apparently just because she thought he was dating Martha, which is something that happens with parents), which caused her to blame him for Martha running back into the danger zone, rather than think about how he was risking his life. Unreasonable, of course, but that is a perfectly legitimate character flaw. In addition, as shown in "The Sound of Drums", Harold Saxon wasn't just some random guy, and there was a sort of mind control going on. It all just worked together to make her act the way she did.

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** Note that the Time Lords are pretty familiar with regeneration energy and all its implications, while Lazarus clearly has very little idea what he's dealing with. So the Doctor could be saying, in essence, "You can't expect to just instantly jump from mortal to poof — immortal, you've got to learn in reasonable steps". It also could be that if anyone understands WhoWantsToLiveForever, it's the Doctor.
Doctor. Remember he had that whole exchange with Rose in "School Reunion" that discussed this.
* Why does Francine side with a complete stranger, who she only has his word for on what he says and the information he gives, over the man who is friend of her daughters and selflessly fought with a giant bug eyed monster the mutated Lazarus to protect her, her family and anyone else.
else. And I understand where she's coming from, wanting to keep her daughter safe and make sure she's not going to wander from the life she's planned on, but it's so hard to be sympathetic when she slaps the Doctor for no reason.
** She disliked the Doctor immediately (apparently just because she thought he was dating Martha, which is something that happens with parents), which caused her to blame him for Martha running back into the danger zone, rather than think about how he was risking his life. Unreasonable, of course, but that is a perfectly legitimate character flaw. In addition, as shown in "The Sound of Drums", Harold Saxon The Master wasn't just some random guy, and there was a sort of mind control going on. It all just worked together to make her act the way she did.



** They probably flashed an official-looking badge at her. People follow [[JustFollowingOrders authority figures]]. Especially when they don't like the person the authority figures are targeting in the first place.
* It's possible I missed something, as I do a lot, but how exactly did the youth machine come with the side effect of turning the person into a [[NightmareFuel horrifying unstoppable skeletal scorpion... thing...?]]
** It didn't just de-age their cells, it re-activated dormant genes that represent evolutionary holdovers / paths not taken. In essence, a grain of truth (they seem to be referencing interons) meets the same kind of ArtisticLicenseBiology and HollywoodEvolution that affected the episode "Genesis" of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''.
** Harold Saxon funded the experiment that produced the youth device, because it's what let him turn his usual laser screwdriver into an instant-aging weapon. It's possible that the Master secretly arranged for the youth machine to mess with Dr. Lazarus' genome in horrific ways in order to tie up loose ends, and/or just for kicks.

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** They ***They probably flashed an official-looking badge at her. People follow [[JustFollowingOrders authority figures]]. Especially when they don't like the person the authority figures are targeting in the first place.
** Francine's initial suspicion and dislike for the Doctor stemmed from the way their introduction went. The Doctor's "I've heard so much about you!", him being a good-looking single bloke, and being vague about how he knows Martha, is enough to raise red flags with Francine, especially when Francine is already fiercely determined that Martha do well in her studies. She sees him as a threat to Martha's career, and then The Master's men tell her that the Doctor is also a threat to Martha's life. So she's being manipulated to be suspicious of the Doctor from the start.
***And it wouldn't take much for the Master's aides to make the Doctor sound like an incredibly dangerous person. Pick two or three stories, indicate that his file is full of incidents like that, maybe say something about there being a secret government agency that was founded by Queen Victoria just because of him... hard to blame Francine for being terrified.
***This is arguably one example of many situations where the Doctor would've had it much easier if he still had Rose by his side to smooth things over. If Rose were still there, she'd have been able to convince Francine that the Doctor was not this secret boyfriend of Martha's and/or trying to distract Martha from her studies, maybe even come up with a plausible cover story to explain how they know Martha. There's at least [[Fanfic/BeingToTimelessness one fanfic]] that shows that this would've had the effect of softening Francine's concerns about the Doctor to her just being worried about Martha going along with two people who do dangerous work for a living. And it'd also have the long-term effect of her being less inclined to believe the Master's lies. (If that happened, the Master would've probably had to resort to extortion, such as kidnapping Tish, and blackmail Francine into betraying Martha)
* It's possible I missed something, as I do a lot, but how exactly did the youth machine come with the side effect of turning the person Lazarus into a [[NightmareFuel horrifying unstoppable skeletal scorpion... thing...?]]
** It didn't just de-age their Lazarus's cells, it re-activated dormant genes that represent evolutionary holdovers / paths not taken. In essence, a grain of truth (they seem to be referencing interons) meets the same kind of ArtisticLicenseBiology and HollywoodEvolution that affected the episode "Genesis" of ''Series/StarTrekTheNextGeneration''.
** Harold Saxon The Master funded the experiment that produced the youth device, because it's what let him turn his usual laser screwdriver into an instant-aging weapon. It's possible that the Master secretly arranged for the youth machine to mess with Dr. Lazarus' genome in horrific ways in order to tie up loose ends, and/or just for kicks.

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* Staying with that time period for a second, can any fellow tropers give me a good explanation for this tossing of the IdiotBall: In "The Sound of Drums", the Doctor states directly that they can't destroy the Paradox Machine before it activates due to the fact that the Doctor's not sure of what the paradox will actually be, and that the cure may be worse than the disease. At that point, they saunter off to the bridge of the ''Valiant'' to try to stop the Master. Uh, excuse me? Don't you have a guy who, like, knows what the Paradox Machine is ("Is that what I think it is?"), and who, like, knows how to use weapons, and, like, can't die? Plan A: the Doctor and Martha head up to the bridge to try to stop the Master. If Plan A fails and the paradox activates, go to Plan B: Jack blasts the living hell out of the Paradox Machine after it goes critical. If Plan B fails, Jack is still free to try to do what he can. If Plan B succeeds, the paradox is broken, and the cost is one severely-damaged TARDIS and a dead US President-Elect. Yes, Jack wasn't armed at the time. No problem. They had enough time for Jack to mug a guard, grab his weapon, and get back to the TARDIS. The Doctor's not this stupid. Martha's not this stupid. Jack's not this stupid. And yet none of them could think of doing this?

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* Staying with that time period for a second, can any fellow tropers give me a good explanation for this tossing of the IdiotBall: In "The Sound of Drums", the Doctor states directly that they can't destroy the Paradox Machine before it activates due to the fact that the Doctor's not sure of what the paradox will actually be, and that the cure may be worse than the disease. At that point, they saunter off to the bridge of the ''Valiant'' to try to stop the Master. Uh, excuse me? Don't you have a guy who, like, knows what the Paradox Machine is ("Is that what I think it is?"), and who, like, knows how to use weapons, and, like, can't die? Plan A: the Doctor and Martha head up to the bridge to try to stop the Master. If Plan A fails and the paradox activates, go to Plan B: Jack blasts the living hell out of the Paradox Machine after it goes critical. If Plan B fails, Jack is still free to try to do what he can. If Plan B succeeds, the paradox is broken, and the cost is one severely-damaged TARDIS and a dead US President-Elect.President, the Master gets arrested and thrown in a Colorado supermax. Yes, Jack wasn't armed at the time. No problem. They had enough time for Jack to mug a guard, grab his weapon, and get back to the TARDIS. The Doctor's not this stupid. Martha's not this stupid. Jack's not this stupid. And yet none of them could think of doing this?



*** I'm not convinced. We know that paradoxes in general are dangerous and unnatural (see "Father's Day"), and this one in particular is being engineered by the Master so it probably doesn't have a benign purpose. It should be safe to assume that it would be better to stop the paradox from happening. What really scratched my head further was that the Doctor said he couldn't dismantle the Paradox Machine without knowing what it did (which I actually took to mean that he needed to know the precise nature of the paradox in order to safely deactivate the machine) — and yet when time came, it turned out the way to dismantle a Paradox Machine is to fire haphazardly at it until it blows up. Either way, it's a big gaping flaw in the plot.
*** The Master's Xanatos-y enough that it could have been a trap, wherein destroying the paradox machine haphazardly could've played into his hands. The Doctor could have just been more worried about that happening than about whether the paradox or not the paradox would be better for everyone.

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*** I'm not convinced. We know that paradoxes in general are dangerous and unnatural (see "Father's Day"), and this one in particular is being engineered by the Master Master, so it probably doesn't have a benign purpose. It should be safe to assume that it would be better to stop the paradox from happening. What really scratched my head further was that the Doctor said he couldn't dismantle the Paradox Machine without knowing what it did (which I actually took to mean that he needed to know the precise nature of the paradox in order to safely deactivate the machine) — machine), and yet when time came, it turned out the way to dismantle a Paradox Machine is to fire haphazardly at it until it blows up. Either way, it's a big gaping flaw in the plot.
*** ***The Doctor knows The Master's Master better than the others, so probably knows that the Master is Xanatos-y enough that it could have been a trap, wherein destroying the paradox machine haphazardly could've played into his hands. The Doctor could have just been more worried about that happening than about whether the paradox or not the paradox would be better for everyone.



** Ah, that adds another layer to a theory [[PrimeEvil I]] have. Namely, that the whole thing is the Master's colossal practical joke on the Doctor. It's a sick joke, too... the Doctor saves a whole bunch of people at the end of the universe, and the Master uses those people for his own ends. The phrase, "You're your own worst enemy" comes to mind here — humanity, which the Doctor loves, becomes the enemy. My way of thinking is, the Doctor already knew what the paradox was — hell, what the Master's ''whole plan'' was — and had come up with a way of turning the whole joke back on the Master. It's what the Doctor does best: he allows his foes to have a moment of victory only to pull the rug from under their feet at the best (or worst, depending on your point of view) possible moment.

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** Ah, that adds another layer to a theory [[PrimeEvil I]] have.of irony. Namely, that the whole thing is the Master's colossal practical joke on the Doctor. It's a sick joke, too... the Doctor saves a whole bunch of people at the end of the universe, and the Master uses those people for his own ends. The phrase, "You're your own worst enemy" comes to mind here — humanity, which the Doctor loves, becomes the enemy. My way of thinking is, the Doctor already knew what the paradox was — hell, what the Master's ''whole plan'' was — and had come up with a way of turning the whole joke back on the Master. It's what the Doctor does best: he allows his foes to have a moment of victory only to pull the rug from under their feet at the best (or worst, depending on your point of view) possible moment.



*** Wait, what happened to Jack's filter? And why does it matter anyway, when the Master isn't affected by the filter and he clearly identifies all three of them? If the Master's awareness of Martha doesn't stop her escape (I think the Master was distracted by his own gloating at the time), then why can't Martha take someone with her?
*** As someone else noted above, the only person she's close enough to touch without moving is the Doctor, the Doctor's probably made it clear he's not going anywhere. If she makes a sudden movement or it looks like she's obviously going to make a break for it one of the Master's lackeys could see past the perception filter and shoot her and the person she was trying to rescue. Staying still and teleporting out of there by herself is probably the safest option.
*** Jack was dead on the other side of the room. Anyone else would be more trouble than it was worth. Plot-wise, Jack wasn't interesting, for it wouldn't take him as much effort as it took her AND it wouldn't be as dangerous. It's important for the hero(ine) to take the lonely path in order to achieve something. The Master wouldn't track her down as crazily as he'd track the Doctor down, and probably even The Doctor has a harder time to hide from him than her, they know each other way too much.

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*** Wait, what happened to Jack's filter? And why does it matter anyway, when the Master isn't affected by the filter and he clearly identifies all three of them? If the Master's awareness of Martha doesn't stop her escape (I think the Master was distracted by his own gloating at the time), then why can't couldn't Martha take someone with her?
*** As someone else noted above, the only person she's close enough to touch without moving is the Doctor, Doctor. And by this point, the Doctor's probably made it clear he's not going anywhere. If she makes a sudden movement or it looks like she's obviously going to make a break for it one of the Master's lackeys could see past the perception filter and shoot her and the person she was trying to rescue. Staying still and teleporting out of there by herself is probably the safest option.
*** Jack was dead on the other side of the room. Anyone else would be more trouble than it was worth. Plot-wise, Jack wasn't interesting, for it wouldn't take him as much effort as it took her AND it wouldn't be as dangerous. It's important for the hero(ine) to take the lonely path in order to achieve something. The Master wouldn't track her down as crazily as he'd track the Doctor down, and probably even The Doctor has a harder time to hide from him than her, because again, they know each other way too much.well.



*** I thought that The Master was running as an independent. His party became major because of the cabinet members abandoning their party for the Master's.

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*** I thought that The Master was running as an independent. His party became major because of the cabinet members abandoning their party for the Master's. ("As soon as you saw the vote swinging MY way you abandoned your parties and you jumped on the Saxon bandwagon!")



*** Related to the above, in the United Kingdom, as soon as the election's over the new Prime Minister essentially takes over immediately (as in, they move into Downing Street, pick the Cabinet and start getting to work); although there's a bit of a transitional period between the opening of the new parliament for obvious reasons, for the leader there's no real 'lame duck' period like in American politics. It might have been a bit of a misunderstanding based on this.

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*** Related to the above, in the United Kingdom, as soon as the election's over the new Prime Minister essentially takes over immediately (as in, they move into Downing Street, pick the Cabinet and start getting to work); although there's a bit of a transitional period between the opening of the new parliament for obvious reasons, for the leader there's no real 'lame duck' period like in American politics. [[note]]And for Americans, that 'lame duck' season was even worse before World War II, where you elected a President in November and he didn't take office until the following ''March''[[/note]] It might have been a bit of a misunderstanding based on this.



*** He was in office for what, a day before the Toclofane appeared and he took over. It wouldn't have been hard to hide the cabinet's deaths for a few hours, especially in light of the new and exciting alien contact.

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*** He was in office for what, a day before the Toclofane Toclafane appeared and he took over. It wouldn't have been hard to hide the cabinet's deaths for a few hours, especially in light of the new and exciting alien contact.


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*** Also, it does have a bit of foreshadowing, if not in the form of a telepathic field. The power of words in "The Shakespeare Code", anyone?

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*** Also, it does have a bit of foreshadowing, if not in the form of a telepathic field. The Namely, the power of words was established in "The Shakespeare Code", anyone?where the word "expelliarmus" defeated the Carrionites.



** At the time he was written (and to an extent today, although from what I can tell not quite as much since UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush handed over to UsefulNotes/BarackObama), American politicians weren't very popular in Britain thanks to the overwhelming perception (which, however true it may be, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement is probably something we don't need to go into too much]]) that the 'Special Relationship' between America and the UK consisted primarily of America bullying the UK into doing what it wanted and following it's lead. It's probably something to do with that.

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** At the time he was written (and to an extent today, although from what I can tell not quite as much since UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush handed over to UsefulNotes/BarackObama), American politicians weren't very popular in Britain thanks to the overwhelming perception (which, however true it may be, [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement is probably something we don't need to go into too much]]) that the 'Special Relationship' between America and the UK consisted primarily of America bullying the UK into doing what it wanted and following it's its lead. It's probably something to do with that.

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* If Lucy hadn't shot the Master, what crimes from the Year That Never Was could he be charged with? I also have a hard time imagining that there wouldn't be some jurisdictional fight between the UK and US governments over who gets to imprison him.



** At that point he also didn't know exactly what the Paradox Machine was going to used for. Smashing it to pieces without knowing what it was going to do could have have worse results in the long run.

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*** No because ''they'' got to leave, but Billy ''chose'' to stay in 1969.
*** Chose? When the Doctor apologized and explained that they needed him to wait around for a long to deliver a message to Sally, it sounded like they were kind of forcing him to stay because of the Easter eggs and (possibly) Sally's information included her meeting the dying Billy in the hospital.

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*** No because ''they'' got to leave, but Billy ''chose'' ''had'' to stay in 1969.
*** Chose? When the
1969. The Doctor apologized and explained that they needed him Billy would have to wait around for a long to deliver a message to Sally, it sounded like they were kind of forcing him to stay take the slow path back because of the Easter eggs and (possibly) Sally's information included her meeting says she will meet the dying Billy in the hospital.hospital, and in order to ensure that it happens as Sally describes it, Billy will have to go into publishing and publish the Easter Egg on the 17 specific [=DVD=]s.



** Billy needed to stay behind to put the easter egg and so it could be possible that Billy wanted to stay behind as he was enjoying the life in 1969-2007.
*** It seems unlikely that anyone from modern times would want to give up the internet and everything else — also, I doubt he'd relish being a black guy in the 1960s. This guy's a Briton of African descent. The actor playing older Billy has a Gambian accent, so it's likely that's where Billy or his family is originally from.
** Cathy'd already ''tried'' the ''Back to the Future'' approach with her grandson's photos and letter, and Sally didn't believe it. She'd needed to actually ''meet'' the aged Billy to accept what he had to say.

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** Billy needed **Billy needs to stay behind to put the easter egg and so it could be possible that Billy wanted to stay behind as he was enjoying Easter Egg on the life in 1969-2007.
*** It seems unlikely that anyone from modern times would want to give up
DVDs because the internet and everything else — also, I doubt he'd relish being a black guy information in the 1960s. This guy's a Briton of African descent. The actor playing older Billy has a Gambian accent, so it's likely Sally's envelope says that's where Billy or his family is originally from.
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** I think the first question can simply be answered: he's the Master, though I think it probably had something to do with attempting to gain trust on the Archangel satellites. On the cabinet front, I don't think it WAS obvious; it was apparently covered up by them "going into seclusion".

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** I think the first question can simply be answered: he's the Master, though I think it probably had something to do with attempting to gain trust on the Archangel satellites. On the cabinet front, I don't think it WAS obvious; it the conversation when Vivian Rook is trying to talk to Lucy establishes that that was apparently covered up by them "going into seclusion".

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*** I thought that Saxon was running as an independent. His party became major because of the cabinet members abandoning their party for the Master's.

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*** I thought that Saxon The Master was running as an independent. His party became major because of the cabinet members abandoning their party for the Master's.



* Why does the Master feel the need to become Prime Minister? The Toclofane were going to come to Earth in any case, and he just could've taken over then. Why go to all that work? Also, how was he not deposed after he killed his entire cabinet? At that point he was still just the Prime Minister, and it was obvious that he was just going about killing people. How did no one call the police?

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* Why does the Master feel the need to become Prime Minister? The Toclofane Toclafane were going to come to Earth in any case, and he just could've taken over then. Why go to all that work? Also, how was he not deposed after he killed his entire cabinet? At that point he was still just the Prime Minister, and it was obvious that he was just going about killing people. How did no one call the police?



*** It enhances his telepathic suggestion against fighting back with a single, massive display of force. The people of the world will know what is going on and exactly how boned they are.

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*** It enhances his telepathic suggestion against fighting back with a single, massive display of force. The people of the world will know what is going on and exactly how boned screwed they are.



* Why would the Master decide to kill the other ministers if they helped him win and rise to power? Is it just because the Master is cruel, or to punish the ministers?
** Because they're obstacles to his plan. They're supposed to keep him in check and they'd be strongly opposed to everything he was doing to bring in the Toclafane.



** Plus, finding the Master isn't exactly the problem; they learn exactly who and where the Master is within seconds of returning to the twenty-first century. The problem is that the Master has installed himself as the ''Prime Minister of Great Britain''; you think it's going to be easy for three people teleporting out of nowhere to get people to accept their word over the Prime Minister's in that situation? Particularly when the Prime Minister's been subtly mind-controlling them?

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** Plus, finding the Master isn't exactly the problem; they learn exactly who and where the Master is within seconds of returning to the twenty-first century. The problem is that the Master has installed himself as the ''Prime Minister of Great Britain''; you think it's going to be easy for three people teleporting out of nowhere to get people to accept their word over the Prime Minister's in that situation? Particularly when the Prime Minister's been subtly mind-controlling them?them? If they'd had time, what they'd do is have to build a case using good old paperwork.

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**Because those motorists aren't really in any position to help and also, I don't think anyone could see that the driver was a robot Santa. (Though that would cause problems if the cab had to go through a toll booth)



** Even if they got stuck in 1930, why don't they just wait until they have the technology to properly rebuild their race? Yeah, Daleks are not known for their patience, but these Daleks are designed to think about the box(which explains why they even contemplated the Human-Dalek project). Also Daleks appear to not age or just live really long (Metaltron managed to survive for 50 years, and the Emperor of the Daleks was in the darkness for at least 200-smoething years), and I imagine that the Cult of Skaro was given immortality. Given how many times the Daleks invaded the Earth, they could probably just wait until the events of "Remembrance of the Daleks" (only 33 years from 1930) and silently steal an Imperial ship/reverse-engineer it if they want to avoid altering their own history.

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** Even if they got stuck in 1930, why don't they just wait until they have the technology to properly rebuild their race? Yeah, Daleks are not known for their patience, but these Daleks are designed to think about the box(which explains why they even contemplated the Human-Dalek project). Also Daleks appear to not age or just live really long (Metaltron managed to survive for 50 years, and the Emperor of the Daleks was in the darkness for at least 200-smoething 200+ years), and I imagine that the Cult of Skaro was given immortality. Given how many times the Daleks invaded the Earth, they could probably just wait until the events of "Remembrance of the Daleks" (only 33 years from 1930) and silently steal an Imperial ship/reverse-engineer it if they want to avoid altering their own history.



** Vaguely sociopathic and evilly ambitious BadBoss he may have been, but he probably still had more conscience and humanity within him than a Dalek. Though there's a possibility he could have mob connections (his accent, the foreman thinking he's referring to Italians when Diagoras summons his bosses from "out of town", etc.)

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** Vaguely sociopathic and evilly ambitious BadBoss he may have been, but he probably still had more conscience and humanity within him than a Dalek. Though there's Then again, Mr. Diagoras does look a possibility he could have mob connections bit like a mobster than a promoted foreman (his Sicilian accent, his bodyguards when he's recruiting bodies, the foreman thinking he's referring to Italians when Diagoras summons his bosses from "out of town", etc.)



** Sec didn't incorporate Diagoras' ''mind'', he incorporated his DNA. Just because Diagoras was enough of a ruthless S.O.B. for the Cult to find him suitable doesn't necessarily mean he was genetically ''predisposed'' to be that way: his ruthlessness could be learned behavior, not inborn. For all we know, he could have an identical twin with the exact same DNA who volunteers in a soup kitchen.

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** Sec didn't incorporate Diagoras' ''mind'', he incorporated his DNA. Just because Diagoras was enough of a ruthless S.O.B. for the Cult to find him suitable doesn't necessarily mean he was genetically ''predisposed'' to be that way: his ruthlessness could be learned behavior, not inborn. For all we know, he could have an identical twin with the exact same DNA who volunteers in a soup kitchen. And Diagoras' own personality could be a combination of someone who just got a lot of power (Solomon says Diagoras was only a foreman until a few months ago) and is also under a lot of pressure himself (it's the Daleks' schedule he has to answer to).



*** It seems unlikely that anyone from modern times would want to give up the internet and everything else — also, I doubt he'd relish being African-American in the 1960s.
** Billy's not African-American, he's a Briton of African descent. The actor playing older Billy has a Gambian accent, so it's likely that's where Billy or his family is originally from.

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*** It seems unlikely that anyone from modern times would want to give up the internet and everything else — also, I doubt he'd relish being African-American a black guy in the 1960s.
** Billy's not African-American, he's
1960s. This guy's a Briton of African descent. The actor playing older Billy has a Gambian accent, so it's likely that's where Billy or his family is originally from.
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** Vaguely sociopathic and evilly ambitious BadBoss he may have been, but he probably still had more conscience and humanity within him than a Dalek.

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** Vaguely sociopathic and evilly ambitious BadBoss he may have been, but he probably still had more conscience and humanity within him than a Dalek. Though there's a possibility he could have mob connections (his accent, the foreman thinking he's referring to Italians when Diagoras summons his bosses from "out of town", etc.)



** Sec didn't incorporate Diagoras' ''mind'', he incorporated his DNA. Just because Diagoras was enough of a ruthless S.O.B. for the Cult to find him suitable doesn't necessarily mean he was genetically ''predisposed'' to be that way: his ruthlessness could be learned behavior, not inborn. For all we know, he could have an identical twin with the exact same DNA who volunteers in a soup kitchen and finds homes for orphaned kittens in his spare time.

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** Sec didn't incorporate Diagoras' ''mind'', he incorporated his DNA. Just because Diagoras was enough of a ruthless S.O.B. for the Cult to find him suitable doesn't necessarily mean he was genetically ''predisposed'' to be that way: his ruthlessness could be learned behavior, not inborn. For all we know, he could have an identical twin with the exact same DNA who volunteers in a soup kitchen and finds homes for orphaned kittens in his spare time.kitchen.



** "Just close your eyes and think of England."
** Explained in "The Time of Angels". Whatever takes the image of an angel becomes an angel. So statue carving, photographs, and recordings can all become angels. This makes them the only family in the universe to reproduce via photo album.

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** "Just "[[LieBackAndThinkOfEngland Just close your eyes and think of England."
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** Explained in "The Time of Angels". Whatever takes the image of an angel becomes an angel.Angel. So statue carving, photographs, and recordings can all become angels. This makes them the only family in the universe to reproduce via photo album.



*** More or less confirmed in "The Angels Take Manhatten" when [[spoiler:Rory gets sent back in time by an angel, and Amy lets the angel send her back as well, and they arrive at the same point.]]
** Alternatively, they can only feed on time energy when that person dies in their own timeline. Sally Sparrow lived up to 1987, which was around the time she was born and Billy Shipton died the day after he was sent back in time. Martha Jones might've survived past 2008, but over half her life would've been lived before then.

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*** More or less confirmed in "The Angels Take Manhatten" Manhattan" when [[spoiler:Rory gets sent back in time by an angel, and Amy lets the angel send her back as well, and they arrive at the same point.]]
** Alternatively, they can only feed on time energy when that person dies in their own timeline. Sally Sparrow Kathy Nightingale lived up to 1987, which was around the time she was born and Billy Shipton died the day after he was sent back in time. Martha Jones might've survived past 2008, but over half her life would've been lived before then.



*** After Obama's election people abroad seem to have thought that he would take over ''immediately'' instead of having to wait two-and-a-half months for his inauguration. It's possible the writers in other countries ''simply didn't know'' that there's a delay between getting elected and actually assuming office.
*** Related to the above, in the United Kingdom as soon as the election's over the new Prime Minister essentially takes over immediately (as in, they move into Downing Street, pick the Cabinet and start getting to work); although there's a bit of a transitional period between the opening of the new parliament for obvious reasons, for the leader there's no real 'lame duck' period like in American politics. It might have been a bit of a misunderstanding based on this.

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*** After Obama's election When Barack Obama was elected, people abroad seem to have thought that he would take over ''immediately'' instead of having to wait two-and-a-half months for his inauguration. It's possible the writers in other countries ''simply didn't know'' that there's a delay between getting elected and actually assuming office.
*** Related to the above, in the United Kingdom Kingdom, as soon as the election's over the new Prime Minister essentially takes over immediately (as in, they move into Downing Street, pick the Cabinet and start getting to work); although there's a bit of a transitional period between the opening of the new parliament for obvious reasons, for the leader there's no real 'lame duck' period like in American politics. It might have been a bit of a misunderstanding based on this.



* The Paradox Machine, based on Professor Doherty's understanding of Paradox, was unnecessary (other than as a ResetButton for resolving the plot). We are frequently reminded that history is always being re-written, with Cybermen in 19th century London and such. At first glance, it appears that Professor Doherty's was describing a GrandfatherParadox, when the situation is nothing of the sort. The Toclafane, humankind's future descendants, did not "travel back in to slaughter their ancestors". Well they did, but not to the degree she means. The Master wanted a race of slaves, not a planet of corpses. The Toclafane enslaved humanity, they didn't make a concentrated effort to wipe them, though they easily could have. They killed just 10% of humanity and enslaved the rest. So long as just a few humans survived the Toclafane holocaust to have descendants to reach the year 100 trillion and become the Toclafane, no paradox has occurred.

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* The Paradox Machine, based on Professor Doherty's Docherty's understanding of Paradox, was unnecessary (other than as a ResetButton for resolving the plot). We are frequently reminded that history is always being re-written, with Cybermen in 19th century London and such. At first glance, it appears that Professor Doherty's Docherty's was describing a GrandfatherParadox, when the situation is nothing of the sort. The Toclafane, humankind's future descendants, did not "travel back in to slaughter their ancestors". Well they did, but not to the degree she means. The Master wanted a race of slaves, not a planet of corpses. The Toclafane enslaved humanity, they didn't make a concentrated effort to wipe them, though they easily could have. They killed just 10% of humanity and enslaved the rest. So long as just a few humans survived the Toclafane holocaust to have descendants to reach the year 100 trillion and become the Toclafane, no paradox has occurred.



** Small point; he's not the ''only'' victim of the Toclafene to stay dead; I seem to recall a bunch of people disappeared from the Valiant between "The Sound of Drums" and "Last of the Time Lords". Since those inside the ship were not affected by the time reversal, they'd still be dead (I can't see what else could have happened to them). Even if I'm wrong on that, there's still the journalist who was killed earlier. Just because it's noted that he's not come back, it doesn't mean there aren't others who are still dead.

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** Small point; he's not the ''only'' victim of the Toclafene Toclafane to stay dead; I seem to recall a bunch of people disappeared from the Valiant between "The Sound of Drums" and "Last of the Time Lords". Since those inside the ship were not affected by the time reversal, they'd still be dead (I can't see what else could have happened to them). Even if I'm wrong on that, there's still the journalist who was killed earlier. Just because it's noted that he's not come back, it doesn't mean there aren't others who are still dead.
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* Donna's banging on the taxi, very clearly trying to indicate to people that she needs help, why in the world did no one call the police? They even distinctly show that several drivers noticed her doing it. But apparently they just didn't bother doing anything about it?

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* When Donna's banging on the taxi, very clearly trying to indicate to people that she needs taxi windows and yelling for help, why in the world did no one call the police? They even distinctly show that several drivers noticed her doing it. But apparently they just didn't bother doing anything about it?
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** At the time he was written (and to an extent today, although from what I can tell not quite as much since UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush handed over to UsefulNotes/BarackObama), American politicians weren't very popular in Britain thanks to the overwhelming perception (which, however true it may be, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement is probably something we don't need to go into too much]]) that the 'Special Relationship' between America and the UK consisted primarily of America bullying the UK into doing what it wanted and following it's lead. It's probably something to do with that.

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** At the time he was written (and to an extent today, although from what I can tell not quite as much since UsefulNotes/GeorgeWBush handed over to UsefulNotes/BarackObama), American politicians weren't very popular in Britain thanks to the overwhelming perception (which, however true it may be, [[RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement [[Administrivia/RuleOfCautiousEditingJudgement is probably something we don't need to go into too much]]) that the 'Special Relationship' between America and the UK consisted primarily of America bullying the UK into doing what it wanted and following it's lead. It's probably something to do with that.
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** Why doesn't the [=TARDIS=] give the TV announcer a British accent too, then?

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