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** I do not remember exactly, but was it explicitly stated it was Holly's taser? She might have gotten it from the crew, considering they all were rooting for her and against Dick.
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** Well, then they would have to use the plan B, wouldn't they?
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** And let's not forget that, if you cut the mixing tubes, it doesn't even matter if it's booby trapped or not. If the liquids don't mix, the bomb won't work.
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** Even with booby traps, they should be able to drain the fluid from one of the tanks. I don't think there is a booby trap that triggers the bomb if someone drills a hole in one of the tanks. If they're worried about the decreased weight of the tank triggering the bomb, they could either replace the fluid with water or drain it really fast so there isn't enough liquid left for the bomb to explode.
* Those Glock 7 guns in Die Hard 2. We all know guns without metal parts don't exist, but even if they did, wouldn't the bullets inside the gun trigger a metal detector?
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*** That, my friend, is the whole concept of fiction: Things that are unlikely to happen being depicted as happening.
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** I should have clarified that I was referring to active duty units and personnel of sound mind (which excludes that Major in Texas I believe). Other countries have suffered endemicly from the military intererfering in politics in one form or another. The only time you will see an american military coup is in the movies. As far as veterans going to the dark side, the occurance of that is no different than the rest of the population. Many of the post U.S. Civil War and 1930's bank and train robbers were veterens from the Civil War and WWI respectively. Even the number of active duty personnel is comparable to the rest of the population. That's why U.S. Naval ships have Master At Arms (ship's Cops) and the Army has a Provost Marshal and MP's. But to have an entire active duty special forces unit conspire to become terrorist is about as likley as Keith Olbermann working for Fox News. I almost said "for Olbermann to get fired by MSNBC" but they already did that.
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** Shock, maybe? Remember, it also [[spoiler:takes the police chief several seconds to realize that he's ''not getting shot''.]]
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** We've already had real-life examples of servicemen going terrorist: Timothy [=McVeigh=], Charles Whitman (the Austin sniper), Lee Harvey Oswald, and John Allen Muhammed (the Beltway sniper). While the idea that a whole unit of them would desert at once is certainly not at all likely, it's within the realm of possibility. Which is less that one could say about a great deal of the Die Hard series.
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*** You are correct on not all the fake terrorist (mercenary / Bank Robbers) being German. At least two of them are Italian, Franco and Marco. This leaves the possibility of other nationalities as well, Uli and I believe James as well. On an interesting side note, in the German release, the Germam dialogue was converted to English and the German names were changed to English counterparts (i.e. Karl was changed to Charles). This was done because terrorism in then West Germany was too fresh in memory (i.e. Bader-Meinhoff).

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*** You are correct on not all the fake terrorist (mercenary / Bank Robbers) being German. At least two of them are Italian, Franco and Marco. This leaves the possibility of other nationalities as well, Uli and I believe James as well. On an interesting side note, in the German release, the Germam German dialogue was converted to English and the German names were changed to English counterparts (i.e. Karl was changed to Charles). This was done because terrorism in then West Germany was too fresh in memory (i.e. Bader-Meinhoff).
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*** You are correct on not all the fake terrorist (mercenary / Bank Robbers) not all being German. At least two of them are Italian, Franco and Marco. This leaves the possibility of other nationalities as well, Uli and I believe James as well. On an interesting side note, in the German release, the Germam dialogue was converted to English and the German names were changed to English counterparts (i.e. Karl was changed to Charles). This was done because terrorism in then West Germany was too fresh in memory (i.e. Bader-Meinhoff).

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*** You are correct on not all the fake terrorist (mercenary / Bank Robbers) not all being German. At least two of them are Italian, Franco and Marco. This leaves the possibility of other nationalities as well, Uli and I believe James as well. On an interesting side note, in the German release, the Germam dialogue was converted to English and the German names were changed to English counterparts (i.e. Karl was changed to Charles). This was done because terrorism in then West Germany was too fresh in memory (i.e. Bader-Meinhoff).
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* The one item that "really bugs me" is the idea that any U.S. military would go rogue and turn terrorist / mercenary and turn against a legitimate legal authority. As a veteran of twenty years in the U.S. military, I can confidently state that the U.S. military has a tradition of unviolated obedience to the civilian regime (which is not a derogatory term, Political Science definition being the rules on how power is acquired, shared, and passed on; and may be put in writing. In our case, our regime is written into our Constitution). Unlike other countries, we have been faithful to this tradition since George Washington and the Newburgh Conspiracy of 1783. Put simply, it has never happened nor will it ever happen. This may be mistaken as self-righteous by the unenlightened, but never the less the U.S. military does not do that kind of thing. Given that however, I understand how and why this trope is used. This is Hollywood Logic and comes from those who did not do their homework, failed military history forever, and just simply did not care. This is especially true of any James Cameron or Paul Verhoeven film in depicting us military types. Yes this a common Hollywood thread and is is a given, but the title of this trope is "Just Bugs Me".

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* The one item that "really bugs me" is the idea that any U.S. military would go rogue and turn terrorist / mercenary and turn against a legitimate legal authority. As a veteran of twenty years in the U.S. military, I can confidently state that the U.S. military has a tradition of unviolated obedience to the civilian regime (which is not a derogatory term, Political Science definition being the rules on how power is acquired, shared, and passed on; and may be put in writing. In our case, our regime is written into our Constitution). Unlike other countries, we have been faithful to this tradition since George Washington and the Newburgh Conspiracy of 1783. Put simply, it has never happened nor will it ever happen. This may be mistaken as self-righteous by the unenlightened, but never the less the U.S. military does not do that kind of thing. Given that however, I understand how and why this trope is used. This is Hollywood Logic and comes from those who did not do their homework, failed military history forever, and just simply did not care. This is especially true of any James Cameron or Paul Verhoeven film in depicting us military types. Sadder still is the fact that most Bruce Willis films subvert this trope, "Die Harder" and possibly "The Siege" being two exceptions. Yes this a common Hollywood thread and is is a given, but the title of this trope is "Just Bugs Me".



* In "With A Vengeance" we get a big speech about how safe the binary liquid bombs are until they are mixed and they'll never explode. Which begs the question why non of the characters on finding a bomb that hasn't mixed yet doesn't simply rip out the mixing tubes (or in the case of the bomb in the school, take a fire axe to the tubes.) Remember, till they mix, there's nothing to explode.

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* In "With A Vengeance" we get a big speech about how safe the binary liquid bombs are until they are mixed and they'll never explode. Which begs the question why non none of the characters on finding a bomb that hasn't mixed yet doesn't simply rip out the mixing tubes (or in the case of the bomb in the school, take a fire axe to the tubes.) Remember, till they mix, there's nothing to explode.
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* The one item that "really bugs me" is the idea that any U.S. military would go rogue and turn terrorist / mercenary and turn against a legitimate legal authority. As a veteran of twenty years in the U.S. military, I can confidently state that the U.S. military has a tradition of unviolated obedience to the civilian regime (which is not a derogatory term, Political Science definition being the rules on how power is acquired, shared, and passed on; and may be put in writing. In our case, our regime is written into our Constitution). Unlike other countries, we have been faithful to this tradition since George Washington and the Newburgh Conspiracy of 1783. Put simply, it has never happened nor will it ever happen. This may be mistaken as self-righteous by the unenlightened, but never the less the U.S. military does not do that kind of thing. Given that however, I understand how and why this trope is used. This is Hollywood Logic and comes from those who did not do their homework, failed military history forever, and just simply did not care. This is especially true of any James Cameron or Paul Verhoeven film in depicting the us military types. Yes this a common Hollywood thread and is is a given, but the title of this trope is "Just Bugs Me".

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* The one item that "really bugs me" is the idea that any U.S. military would go rogue and turn terrorist / mercenary and turn against a legitimate legal authority. As a veteran of twenty years in the U.S. military, I can confidently state that the U.S. military has a tradition of unviolated obedience to the civilian regime (which is not a derogatory term, Political Science definition being the rules on how power is acquired, shared, and passed on; and may be put in writing. In our case, our regime is written into our Constitution). Unlike other countries, we have been faithful to this tradition since George Washington and the Newburgh Conspiracy of 1783. Put simply, it has never happened nor will it ever happen. This may be mistaken as self-righteous by the unenlightened, but never the less the U.S. military does not do that kind of thing. Given that however, I understand how and why this trope is used. This is Hollywood Logic and comes from those who did not do their homework, failed military history forever, and just simply did not care. This is especially true of any James Cameron or Paul Verhoeven film in depicting the us military types. Yes this a common Hollywood thread and is is a given, but the title of this trope is "Just Bugs Me".
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* The one item that "really bugs me" is the idea that any U.S. military would go rogue and turn terrorist / mercenary and turn against a legitimate legal authority. As a veteran of twenty years in the U.S. military, I can confidently state that the U.S. military has a tradition of unviolated obedience to the civilian regime (which is not a derogatory term, Political Science definition being the rules on how power is acquired, shared, and passed on; and may be put in writing. In our case, our regime is written into our Constitution). Unlike other countries, we have been faithful to this tradition since George Washington and the Newburgh Conspiracy of 1783. Put simply, it has never happened nor will it ever happen. This may be mistaken as self-righteous by the unenlightened, but never the less the U.S. military does not do that kind of thing. Given that however, I understand how and why this trope is used. This is Hollywood Logic and comes from those who did not do their homework, failed military history forever, and just simply did not care. This is especially true of any James Cameron or Paul Verhoeven film in depicting the us military types. Yes this a common Hollywood thread and is is a given, but the title of this trope is "Just Bugs Me".
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*** Your pretty much correct. If I remebered the respective scene correctly, McClane make a remark wondering why terrorist have such small feet. It begs the question, is this inuendo / double entendre on body part size.


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*** You are correct on not all the fake terrorist (mercenary / Bank Robbers) not all being German. At least two of them are Italian, Franco and Marco. This leaves the possibility of other nationalities as well, Uli and I believe James as well. On an interesting side note, in the German release, the Germam dialogue was converted to English and the German names were changed to English counterparts (i.e. Karl was changed to Charles). This was done because terrorism in then West Germany was too fresh in memory (i.e. Bader-Meinhoff).

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* In "With A Vengeance" we get a big speech about how safe the binary liquid bombs are until they are mixed and they'll never explode. Which begs the question why non of the characters on finding a bomb that hasn't mixed yet doesn't simply rip out the mixing tubes (or in the case of the bomb in the school, take a fire axe to the tubes.) Remember, till they mix, there's nothing to explode

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* In "With A Vengeance" we get a big speech about how safe the binary liquid bombs are until they are mixed and they'll never explode. Which begs the question why non of the characters on finding a bomb that hasn't mixed yet doesn't simply rip out the mixing tubes (or in the case of the bomb in the school, take a fire axe to the tubes.) Remember, till they mix, there's nothing to explodeexplode.
** Well, the one guy mentions something about the one in the school probably being booby-trapped, but that aside, yeah. You'd think someone would at least {{lampshade|hanging}} what seems to be a fairly obvious weakness in the bomb's design.
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* In "With A Vengeance" we get a big speech about how safe the binary liquid bombs are until they are mixed and they'll never explode. Which begs the question why non of the characters on finding a bomb that hasn't mixed yet doesn't simply rip out the mixing tubes (or in the case of the bomb in the school, take a fire axe to the tubes.) Remember, till they mix, there's nothing to explode

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* I can't locate the reference for this on cracked.com,but here's something that has always bugged me: The crimes that all of the villains commit in the entire Die Hard series are so much worse than the crime that they are trying to cover up.
Let see: Armed robbery moderate to length sentence.
Terrorism: The death penalty...extrajudicial murder...Guantanamo.

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* I can't locate the reference for this on cracked.com,but here's something that has always bugged me: The crimes that all of the villains commit in the entire Die Hard series are so much worse than the crime that they are trying to cover up.
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Let see: Armed robbery moderate to length sentence. \n \\
Terrorism: The death penalty...extrajudicial murder...Guantanamo.\\



* John McClane pulls out a machine gun and starts to spray the police chief right in front of a bunch of other cops! And not one of them shoots him down! [[spoiler: OK they were blanks, but the other cops had no way of knowing that...]]

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* In ''Die Harder'', John McClane pulls out a machine gun and starts to spray the police chief right in front of a bunch of other cops! And not one of them shoots him down! [[spoiler: OK [[spoiler:OK, they were blanks, but the other cops had no way of knowing that...]]]]
* Yet another from ''Die Harder'': When Esperanza lands on the runway, John is trying to crawl ''out'' of the manhole that Esperanza's plane is about to run over. Me thinks even ''John [=McClane=]'' would decide that going back down and waiting for the plane to pass over you makes more sense!



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* In ''Die Harder'': I know that security was decidely more lenient pre-9/11, but I'm still positive that they would not have let anybody bring an electric stun-gun on to a plane. In fact, from ''Die Hard'', it would have been pretty hard for John to bring his gun on the plane, without having to check it, regardless of the fact that he is a cop (When a cop is off-duty, they're essentially a civilian)

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* In ''Die Harder'': I know that security was decidely more lenient pre-9/11, but I'm still positive that they would not have let anybody bring an electric stun-gun on to a plane. In fact, from ''Die Hard'', it would have been pretty hard for John to bring his gun on the plane, without having to check it, regardless of the fact that he is a cop (When a cop is off-duty, they're essentially a civilian)civilian).
* Also from ''Die Harder'', are we really supposed to believe that the bad guys were able to set all this up in the few days' time they'd have known the airport was going to A) be the site where the general was going to be delivered, and B) get hit by a snowstorm? Even if they knew where the guy was being brought into the U.S. weeks beforehand, weather reports simply aren't reliable enough to allow enough forewarning to build an elaborate scheme that depended on the planes' having no visual contact with the ground. Had the weather not cooperated with the bad guys, they wouldn't have been able to crash a planeload of hostages, because the whole city would be lit up for the holiday.


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*** They said they'd lost all communication with the planes, so couldn't direct them to head to other airports. Why some ''other'' airport couldn't contact the planes, and why they didn't redirect all the planes immediately rather than keep some in a holding pattern over D.C., is a WallBanger.
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* John McClane pulls out a machine gun and starts to spray the police chief right in front of a bunch of other cops! And not one of them shoots him down! {{spoiler: OK they were blanks, but the other cops had no way of knowing that...}}

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* John McClane pulls out a machine gun and starts to spray the police chief right in front of a bunch of other cops! And not one of them shoots him down! {{spoiler: OK they were blanks, but the other cops had no way of knowing that...}}
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\n** Yes, but they're counting on ''not being caught''. Remember what Hans said? "If you steal 600 million, they will find you, unless they think you're already dead."\\\
And why ''shouldn't'' the money they're stealing be a huge amount? If you're going to risk the kind of things you just pointed out, there should be a significant payback. Also, keep in mind the 640 million was originally going to be split between like 20 guys.

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* I can't locate the reference for this on cracked.com,but here's something that has always bugged me: The crimes that all of the villains commit in the entire Die Hard series are so much worse than the crime that they are trying to cover up.
Let see: Armed robbery moderate to length sentence.
Terrorism: The death penalty...extrajudicial murder...Guantanamo.
And why do the amounts they are trying to steal have to be so ridiculously large? The majority of people on Earth will never make more than a few million dollars in their entire lives. So I can believe people would do anything to get a million or two. $640 million dollars (Die Hard #1) was (and is) completely ludicrous.

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*** No, he used that up long before he realised that Hans still needed the detonators. But I take the point about them being a bargaining chip.
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****** I always thought the explanation was disturbingly simple. Gabriel is an arrogant, sick, fuck who simply enjoys the thought that these other lesser nerds will actively end their own lives by failing to notice he is the uber-nerd and has rigged their own computers against them.

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****** I always thought the explanation was disturbingly simple. Gabriel is an arrogant, sick, fuck who simply enjoys the thought that these other lesser nerds will actively end their own lives by failing to notice he is the uber-nerd and has rigged their own computers against them. The whole thing is as much about his salving his wounded ego as it about the money.
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******I always thought the explanation was disturbingly simple. Gabriel is an arrogant, sick, fuck who simply enjoys the thought that these other lesser nerds will actively end their own lives by failing to notice he is the uber-nerd and has rigged their own computers against them.
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*** Except that would have increased the risk of slipping and falling if he walked over a tile or hardwood floor.
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** Maybe [=McClane=] has really big feet?

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** Maybe [=McClane=] has really big feet?feet? After all, he is the hero :)
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** He could have just worn their SOCKS. Not hygienic,but better than having your feet get cut.

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