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** For the real world answers, I think what is more likely is that having all the DC-CW shows be set on the same Earth made crossing over, even in small ways and thus make it feel like a fully realised universe easier going forward. The exception being Stargirl, whose history was so different from the main Arrowverse that it required it being on a different earth. Shows not made by the CW/Berlanti team probably weren't even considered to be folded in for similar reasons.
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** MST3KMantra. Sara's giving Oliver a pep talk to inspire him, she's not including Oliver-X either because he's dead by now, or he's not really Oliver, or she's just deliberately leaving him out because it would ruin the mood (and the point she's making).
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** In-universe answer: At least the Legends, specifically Barry, know of Jefferson. Probably when the Paragons were recreating their world, the characters only thought about bringing together people they knew. So Kara and J'onn's Earth, Earth-1, and Black Lightning's Earth all came together. Real-world answer: Probably licensing issues, yeah.
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* It's relatively obvious why the creators didn't want to merge the Titans or Doom Patrol universes with Earth Prime (namely, they have their own versions of Superman and Batman), but why did they decide that ''Series/BlackLightning2018,'' a series filmed half a continent away from most the rest of the Arrowverse shows, should be merged, but not, say, Swamp Thing (a character long associated with John Constantine) or maybe set ''Series/Batwoman2019'' up as a sequel to ''Series/Gotham'' with any discrepancies being excusable by Crisis? Especially since the number of things Black Lightning has done with Crisis can be counted on one hand with fingers to spare? Was it licensing issues that only allowed cameos, or what?
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* It's relatively obvious why the creators didn't want to merge the Titans or Doom Patrol universes with Earth Prime (namely, they have their own versions of Superman and Batman), but why did they decide that ''Series/BlackLightning2018,'' a series filmed half a continent away from most the rest of the Arrowverse shows, should be merged, but not, say, Swamp Thing (a character long associated with John Constantine) or maybe set ''Series/Batwoman2019'' up as a sequel to ''Series/Gotham'' ''Series/{{Gotham}}'' with any discrepancies being excusable by Crisis? Especially since the number of things Black Lightning has done with Crisis can be counted on one hand with fingers to spare? Was it licensing issues that only allowed cameos, or what?
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** Considering they restarted the multiverse at the Dawn of Time, that would mean that they're all the original people just with new memories and possibly different locations. Plus, Oliver was effectively God at that point, so bringing back the originals would be well within his power to do, especially since Crisis effectively never happened in this new multiverse.
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* It's relatively obvious why the creators didn't want to merge the Titans or Doom Patrol universes with Earth Prime (namely, they have their own versions of Superman and Batman), but why did they decide that ''Series/BlackLightning2018,'' a series filmed half a continent away from most the rest of the Arrowverse shows, should be merged, but not, say, Swamp Thing (a character long associated with John Constantine) or maybe set ''Series/Batwoman2019'' up as a sequel to ''Series/Gotham'' with any discrepancies being excusable by Crisis? Especially since the number of things Black Lightning has done with Crisis can be counted on one hand with fingers to spare? Was it licensing issues that only allowed cameos, or what?
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* It's relatively obvious why the creators didn't want to merge the Titans or Doom Patrol universes with Earth Prime (namely, they have their own versions of Superman and Batman), but why did they decide that ''Series/BlackLightning2018,'' a series filmed half a continent away from most the rest of the Arrowverse shows, should be merged, but not, say, Swamp Thing (a character long associated with John Constantine) or maybe set ''Series/Batwoman2019'' up as a sequel to ''Series/Gotham'' with any discrepancies being excusable by Crisis? Especially since the number of things Black Lightning has done with Crisis can be counted on one hand with fingers to spare? Was it licensing issues that only allowed cameos, or what?
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* I guess I'll ask it: are we ever going to get some kind of confirmation that everyone from now on (besides the paragons) is the actual person i.e. has their soul, but with different memories, and not just a copy a la a Time Remnant or a clone Oliver willed into existence? Because the latter is the obvious conclusion.
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* I guess I'll ask it: are we ever going to get some kind of confirmation that everyone from now on (besides the paragons) is the actual person i.e. has their soul, but with different memories, and not just a copy a la a Time Remnant or a clone Oliver willed into existence? Because the latter is the obvious conclusion.
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* Clearly, Novu's original plan (whatever it was) went off the rails with Ollie dying and the Crisis being moved forward five years. But what was the whole thing with the Book of Destiny and all that? Did he even '''have''' a plan? Because it feels like he basically just destroyed all those Earths and put all those heroes to the test for nothing.
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* Clearly, Novu's original plan (whatever it was) went off the rails with Ollie dying and the Crisis being moved forward five years. But what was the whole thing with the Book of Destiny and all that? Did he even '''have''' a plan? Because it feels like he basically just destroyed all those Earths and put all those heroes to the test for nothing.
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** Earth-167 was destroyed along with all the other Earths, but when the Paragons restarted the universe at the Dawn of Time, they unknowingly caused that single universe to split into a new universe, one that ''also'' contains an Earth-167, presumably not that different from the old Earth-167. It and Earth-Prime ''are'' in the same multiverse, it's just the heroes are unaware the multiverse still exists, so there's no contact between them.
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** Earth-167 was destroyed along with all the other Earths, but when the Paragons restarted the universe at the Dawn of Time, they unknowingly caused that single universe to split into a new universe, multiverse, one that ''also'' contains an Earth-167, presumably not that different from the old Earth-167. It and Earth-Prime ''are'' in the same multiverse, it's just the heroes are unaware the multiverse still exists, so there's no contact between them.
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* Odds are, one of the Paragons (most likely Barry) thought about Jefferson as they recreated the universe, and their desire to save him caused Jefferson (and, by extension, those parts of reality connected to him) to be incorporated into the new universe.
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* Odds are, one of the Paragons (most likely Barry) thought about Jefferson as they recreated the universe, and their desire to save him caused Jefferson (and, by extension, those parts of reality connected to him) to be incorporated into the new universe.
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** Perhaps ''because'' he doesn't have a proven track record in their eyes. His rather naieve question about "How often is the world in danger?" may have cemented it, but as a fairly rookie hero who may be out of his depth if faced with something sufficiently big, being able to call on more experienced people like Barry and Sara, or more powerful people like Clark and Kara, could keep him from endangering their new world by trying to fly solo against something he isn't fully prepared for.
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** There could also be semantics at work. Either Oliver-X is "not really Oliver," so doesn't count, or he's a "good man" by the standards of his Earth, upholding his ideals of justice (warped though they may be, because Planet Nazi) and crossing universes just to save his wife's life.
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** With these in mind, Smallville having its own "Earth 2", and other factors, I am thinking there might be different "regional multiverse number systems", similar to regional pokedex numbers in Pokemon.
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** Judging from the naming convention of some of the other Earths, his could have been Earth-77, after the character's original debut year.
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* Part 1 established that the alternative Star City 2046 they Legends traveled to was the future of Earth-16, presumably to address the continuity issues with the Conor Hawke character. Yet when Sara interacts with that Oliver, he no only has no memory of the events of that Legends of Tomorrow, but the history of that Earth from 2007-2016 doesn't match up with Earth-1's history. And since when could the Waverider travel to alternate Earths? What's going on?
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*** The Paragons were meant to be more of a backup plan if all else failed. They weren't technically necessary to stop the Anti-Monitor or his plan if they could have stopped him earlier. As for losing a Paragon, as shown with Lex Luthor taking Earth-96 Superman's place, it's possible that another person could take Barry's place if he died.
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*** There are still a lot of plot holes. The problem is a Barry sacrificing himself to stop the Anti-Matter machine doesn't stop the Anti-Monitor's plan. Also,apparently, the Paragons are needed to stop the Anti-Monitor. How do they stop the Anti-Monitor if one of their Paragons is dead.
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* At the end of the crossover, Barry sets up a team to deal with threats to the new Earth-Prime, consisting of the Flash, Supergirl, Martian Manhunter, Batwoman, Superman, White Canary, and Black Lightning (along with an honorary seat for Oliver Queen). While this makes sense from a Doyalist perspective - one representative from each TV show (and Martian Manhunter) - what is the in-universe logic of Black Lightning being on the team? None of the rest of the heroes had met him before the Crisis, and ultimately he only had a brief role in events once he showed up. We the audience know he is a hero with a lot to bring to the table, but why would Barry not include someone with a proven track record like Ray Palmer or John Diggle?
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* At the end of the crossover, Barry sets up a team to deal with threats to the new Earth-Prime, consisting of the Flash, Supergirl, Martian Manhunter, Batwoman, Superman, White Canary, and Black Lightning (along with an honorary seat for Oliver Queen). While this makes sense from a Doyalist perspective - one representative from each TV show (and Martian Manhunter) - what is the in-universe logic of Black Lightning being on the team? None of the rest of the heroes had met him before the Crisis, and ultimately he only had a brief role in events once he showed up. We the audience know he is a hero with a lot to bring to the table, but why would Barry not include someone with a proven track record like Ray Palmer or John Diggle?
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* According to the recap page for "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS5CrisisOnInfiniteEarthsHourFive Crisis on Infinite Earths: Hour Five]]", Earth-167 ''did'' survive, but is it outside of the multiverse, being its own separate universe?
** Equally, is Stargirl/Courtney Whitmore's Earth, Earth-2 likely to produce a crossover with ''Series/TheFlash2014'' or is that unlikely for ExiledFromContinuity reasons?
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* According to the recap page for "[[https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Recap/LegendsOfTomorrowS5CrisisOnInfiniteEarthsHourFive Crisis on Infinite Earths: Hour Five]]", Earth-167 ''did'' survive, but is it outside of the multiverse, being its own separate universe?
** Equally, is Stargirl/Courtney Whitmore's Earth, Earth-2 likely to produce a crossover with ''Series/TheFlash2014'' or is that unlikely for ExiledFromContinuity reasons?
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** For the sake of justifications, let's go with this. When BL and Flash smashed their lightning together it created a quantum entanglement between them. So when the multiverse was reborn, Jefferson's Earth and Barry's Earth were entwined in such a way that they merged.
