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**Most likely, only one Angel appeared, but the reality in which it happened was split into many in the following centuries.
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** Airy linked many worlds over many millenia. They could be worlds linked before the time period that the warriors of light exist in, or they could simply be worlds in which the holy pillar appeared yet only Airy passed through without killing anybody. She doesn't necessarily have to have done the same exact thing in every world linked.
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A couple questions I had after finishing the game. I don\'t know if it\'s explained at all, but if anyone wants to share their thoughts...

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* So, I get that as the "Piercer of Boundaries" Airy is able to use the crystals' overclocked energies in a ritual to cause the Holy Pillar/Great Chasm to open up and link the worlds, but why do the crystals in the destination world darken at the exact moment the portal links it? Is it a part of Airy's ritual so that she can trick Agnes into awakening the crystals into overdrive instead of leaving them at a normal energy flow? Is it a defense mechanism by the crystals meant to prevent Airy from linking the worlds and breaking Ouroborus' seal by denying her access to the energy? Or is it just a random omen that happens to strike Luxendarc at that exact point in time?
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* How are the alternate Tiz, Agnes, Ringabel, and Edea able to help your party in the final fight? Didn't Airy kill them after linking their worlds to the next one?
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** Alternatively, it's possible that, as one of the Jobmasters ''making'' the barrier, Khint simply deactivated it.
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** [[spoiler:Yulyana]]'s words in the Chapter 8 rematch with [[spoiler:De Rosso]] are "We're within the Asterisk Barrier. Absolutely impervious. ...In theory at least. Hm hm hm!". If any class could find a way out, surely it'd be the one that can enchant their sword with practically any form of magic.

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** [[spoiler:Yulyana]]'s words in the Chapter 8 rematch with [[spoiler:De Rosso]] [[spoiler:[=DeRosso=]]] are "We're within the Asterisk Barrier. Absolutely impervious. ...In theory at least. Hm hm hm!". If any class could find a way out, surely it'd be the one that can enchant their sword with practically any form of magic.
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** [[spoiler:Yulyana]]'s words in the Chapter 8 rematch with [[spoiler:DeRosso]] are "We're within the Asterisk Barrier. Absolutely impervious. ...In theory at least. Hm hm hm!". If any class could find a way out, surely it'd be the one that can enchant their sword with practically any form of magic.

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** [[spoiler:Yulyana]]'s words in the Chapter 8 rematch with [[spoiler:DeRosso]] [[spoiler:De Rosso]] are "We're within the Asterisk Barrier. Absolutely impervious. ...In theory at least. Hm hm hm!". If any class could find a way out, surely it'd be the one that can enchant their sword with practically any form of magic.
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** [[spoiler:Yulyana]]'s words in the Chapter 8 rematch with [[spoiler:DeRosso]] are "We're within the Asterisk Barrier. Absolutely impervious. ...In theory at least. Hm hm hm!". If any class could find a way out, surely it'd be the one that can enchant their sword with practically any form of magic.
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* How is it that Khint is able to run away midway through the battles against the Thief and the Merchant? That asterisk-powered AmazingTechnicolorBattlefield is supposed to keep both sides trapped until the fight is over, as I understood it.
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** I don't recall it ''ever'' saying one of the goals of Anticrystalism is to kill all the vestals. There were ''individuals'' that were a part of it that wanted to kill them for their own reasons, but there others that wanted or preferred them captured alive, one of which was Braev--the leader--himself. Which makes sense considering he formed the movement with [=DeRosso=] and Yulyana, and thus was aware of the big picture all along.

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** I don't recall it ''ever'' saying one of the goals of Anticrystalism is to kill all the vestals. There were ''individuals'' that were a part of it that wanted to kill them for their own reasons, but there were others that wanted or preferred them captured alive, one of which was Braev--the leader--himself. Which makes sense considering he formed the movement with [=DeRosso=] and Yulyana, and thus was aware of the big picture all along.
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** I don't recall it ''ever'' saying one of the goals of Anticrystalism is to kill all the vestals. There were ''individuals'' that were a part of it that wanted to kill them for their own reasons, but there others that wanted or preferred them captured alive, one of which was Braev--the leader--himself. Which makes sense considering he formed the movement with [=DeRosso=] and Yulyana, and thus was aware of the big picture all along.

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*** Yes I know that but it doesn't fix the problem the fact that the crystal's are needed to keep the world balanced. If they leave the crystals as they are they just going to leave the crystals dark and corrupted which in turn effect the world? Isn't the reason why the sea is unsailable and the wind isn't working properly because the crystals were covered in darkness? Yes they don't want people to rely on the power of the crystal but the crystals are needed to keep the world balanced. Also they are technically relying on a crystal (I think the Earth Crystal?) to help with their White Magic hospital place.

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*** ** Yes I know that but it doesn't fix the problem the fact that the crystal's are needed to keep the world balanced. If they leave the crystals as they are they just going to leave the crystals dark and corrupted which in turn effect the world? Isn't the reason why the sea is unsailable and the wind isn't working properly because the crystals were covered in darkness? Yes they don't want people to rely on the power of the crystal but the crystals are needed to keep the world balanced. Also they are technically relying on a crystal (I think the Earth Crystal?) to help with their White Magic hospital place.
** They were studying the crystals, trying to find a way to cleanse them without the vestals. That's why they were doing the whole world conquest thing--they needed control of all four to get the full picture. They didn't seem to have much luck, though, and Lord [=DeRosso=] mentioned several times that Crystalism should be reduced to the people, the crystals, and the vestals, removing the church itself. The implication of that statement is that the vestals are needed, even though Eternia had some really bad experiences with theirs.
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*** Yes I know that but it doesn't fix the problem the fact that the crystal's are needed to keep the world balanced. If they leave the crystals as they are they just going to leave the crystals dark and corrupted which in turn effect the world? Isn't the reason why the sea is unsailable and the wind isn't working properly because the crystals were covered in darkness? Yes they don't want people to rely on the power of the crystal but the crystals are needed to keep the world balanced. Also they are technically relying on a crystal (I think the Earth Crystal?) to help with their White Magic hospital place.

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* I know Anticrystalism is all gung-ho for stamping out the Crystalism and want to kill all the vestials but what are they going to do with the crystals? The crystals are necessary for the world's balance and if they left them corrupted then the world is going to still be bad. They didn't do a good job taking care of the Earth Crystal either. Are they just plan to leave the crystals as they are? The only ones who are known to be able to purify the crystals are the vestials yet they want to destroy them and the religion they are associated with.

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* I know Anticrystalism is all gung-ho for stamping out the Crystalism and want to kill all the vestials vestals but what are they going to do with the crystals? The crystals are necessary for the world's balance and if they left them corrupted then the world is going to still be bad. They didn't do a good job taking care of the Earth Crystal either. Are they just plan to leave the crystals as they are? The only ones who are known to be able to purify the crystals are the vestials yet they want to destroy them and the religion they are associated with.with.
** Anticrystalism was created by Eternia as a counter to reduce the power it had. Simply put, Eternia wants to show that they don't need the crystals power, after all, Eternia has Airships that can fly and don't use crystals to do do. They simply want people to move away Crystalism and focus on manpower like in Anchiem.
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* I know Anticrystalism is all gung-ho for stamping out the Crystalism and want to kill all the vestials but what are they going to do with the crystals? The crystals are necessary for the world's balance and if they left them corrupted then the world is going to still be bad. They didn't do a good job taking care of the Earth Crystal either. Are they just plan to leave the crystals as they are? The only ones who are known to be able to purify the crystals are the vestials yet they want to destroy them and the religion they are associated with.
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*** In other words, Tiz dies...[[FridgeHorror BECAUSE OF YOU!]]
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** He's seeing it through you--in other words, he only sees a bunch of people in First-World countries with enough free time to play a video game. From the point of view of someone who's used to monsters roaming the countryside and a world constantly on the brink of destruction if the four pillars of reality become too weak or too strong, you can see how that would seem like an annoyingly perfect paradise.
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* So, Ouroboros talks about how he wants to destroy the Celestial realm because it is a world of perfect peace, harmony, and love where hatred and conflict are unknown, and he wants to remake it to introduce those things. The Celestial Realm is ''our'' world. While I must admit we aren't a ''complete'' CrapsackWorld, we've definitely got hatred, conflict, sadness, etc. in spades and at times a distinct lack of peace, harmony, and love - no better and no worse than the world in the game (possibly worse, since we've got several dozen factions in any given conflict and several dozen equal-level conflicts, not just the Crystalist faction and non-Crystalist faction). Where is Ouroboros getting his information from, then, that he's so far off the mark? Did he just take one look at us, happen to see a kindergarten, decide that must be representative, and then work from that?

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* So, Ouroboros talks about how he wants to destroy the Celestial realm because it is a world of perfect peace, harmony, and love where hatred and conflict are unknown, and he wants to remake it to introduce those things. The Celestial Realm is ''our'' world. While I must admit we aren't a ''complete'' CrapsackWorld, we've definitely got hatred, conflict, sadness, etc. in spades and at times a distinct lack of peace, harmony, and love - no better and no worse than the world in the game (possibly worse, since we've got several dozen factions in any given conflict and several dozen equal-level conflicts, not just the Crystalist faction and non-Crystalist anti-Crystalist faction). Where is Ouroboros getting his information from, then, that he's so far off the mark? Did he just take one look at us, happen to see a kindergarten, decide that must be representative, and then work from that?
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*So, Ouroboros talks about how he wants to destroy the Celestial realm because it is a world of perfect peace, harmony, and love where hatred and conflict are unknown, and he wants to remake it to introduce those things. The Celestial Realm is ''our'' world. While I must admit we aren't a ''complete'' CrapsackWorld, we've definitely got hatred, conflict, sadness, etc. in spades and at times a distinct lack of peace, harmony, and love - no better and no worse than the world in the game (possibly worse, since we've got several dozen factions in any given conflict and several dozen equal-level conflicts, not just the Crystalist faction and non-Crystalist faction). Where is Ouroboros getting his information from, then, that he's so far off the mark? Did he just take one look at us, happen to see a kindergarten, decide that must be representative, and then work from that?
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*** The Celestial is not Airy's sister. The end fight with Ouroboros has him reveal that he intends to invade the Celestial Realm, which shows behind him in the final battle and ultimately turns on the 3DS camera to show the player's face behind it. The Celestial keeping Tiz alive is YOU, the player.

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*** The Celestial is not Airy's sister. The end fight with Ouroboros has him reveal that he intends to invade the Celestial Realm, which shows behind him in the final battle and ultimately turns on the 3DS camera to show the player's face behind it. The Celestial keeping Tiz alive is YOU, the player.player


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** I believe the reason he went into a BigSleep is because Tiz gave up being the player controlled character, who gave him life. Basically you've won and since theres nothing else to do, Tiz gives up that life and returns to sleep because he's not longer being controlled by YOU.


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** The reason for the Angels in the portraits is to show the symbolism it had I believe. Only one Angel ever actually appeared, which was confirmed by Yulyana and [=DeRosso=].
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* In all loops you visit, Lord DeRosso has the painting of their encounter with the Angel. Does that means more than one of Anges visited a different alternate world?
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** The last journal entry for Tiz mentions say that the others had found him asleep, and the bonus video implies he's been asleep until the events of the sequel unfold.
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*** The Celestial is not Airy's sister. The end fight with Ouroboros has him reveal that he intends to invade the Celestial Realm, which shows behind him in the final battle and ultimately turns on the 3DS camera to show the player's face behind it. The Celestial keeping Tiz alive is YOU, the player.
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* [[spoiler:Edea's]] reaction to TheReveal that [[spoiler:Ringabel and Alternis are the same person]] makes very little sense when you consider [[spoiler:they were childhood friends and Alternis was in love with her for a long time, which she was aware of. Not only that, but it's revealed that Braev personally adopted Alternis and raised him as his own son alongside Edea. How did she not know what he looked like?]]
** [[spoiler:In the third loop, where the characters are given the chance to take the place of their versions in that world, Alternis does seem to imply that he donned the Dark Knight asterisk before meeting Braev, and rarely removed it (in public at least). It's possible that Edea may never have seen him out of armour, but that is a ''very'' big stretch of the imagination.]]
** [[spoiler: Except that both Braev and Mahzer recognize him as the one who brought Edea back so... plot contrivance or AWizardDidIt?]]
** [[spoiler: During his first loop as Alternis, Ringabel fell into lava and had to be nursed back to health. While not commented on in game, this is an at least plausible reason for a difference in appearance. ]]
** [[spoiler: It's possible that the game simply reused Ringabel's model for Alternis when in reality Alternis may have looked slightly different (or at least ditched the pompadour). It's amazing how a haircut and a change in personality can make a person unrecognisable. Also, Edea may have noticed some similarities but never bothered to point it out, after all Ringabel's and Alternis act nothing like each other early on.]]
** [[spoiler:It's probably a good thing to remember that, in the Japanese version, Ringabel/Alternis is only eighteen. Personal appearance is hardly stable during one's teen years. Alternis's journal also implies that he wears the armor almost constantly enough that going plainclothes is uncomfortable for him, so it wouldn't be a surprise if Edea hadn't seen him out of it for at least a couple of years.]]

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* [[spoiler:Edea's]] Edea's reaction to TheReveal that [[spoiler:Ringabel Ringabel and Alternis are the same person]] person makes very little sense when you consider [[spoiler:they they were childhood friends and Alternis was in love with her for a long time, which she was aware of. Not only that, but it's revealed that Braev personally adopted Alternis and raised him as his own son alongside Edea. How did she not know what he looked like?]]
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** [[spoiler:In In the third loop, where the characters are given the chance to take the place of their versions in that world, Alternis does seem to imply that he donned the Dark Knight asterisk before meeting Braev, and rarely removed it (in public at least). It's possible that Edea may never have seen him out of armour, but that is a ''very'' big stretch of the imagination.]]
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** [[spoiler: Except that both Braev and Mahzer recognize him as the one who brought Edea back so... plot contrivance or AWizardDidIt?]]
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** [[spoiler: During his first loop as Alternis, Ringabel fell into lava and had to be nursed back to health. While not commented on in game, this is an at least plausible reason for a difference in appearance. ]]
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** [[spoiler: It's possible that the game simply reused Ringabel's model for Alternis when in reality Alternis may have looked slightly different (or at least ditched the pompadour). It's amazing how a haircut and a change in personality can make a person unrecognisable. Also, Edea may have noticed some similarities but never bothered to point it out, after all Ringabel's and Alternis act nothing like each other early on.]]
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** [[spoiler:It's It's probably a good thing to remember that, in the Japanese version, Ringabel/Alternis is only eighteen. Personal appearance is hardly stable during one's teen years. Alternis's journal also implies that he wears the armor almost constantly enough that going plainclothes is uncomfortable for him, so it wouldn't be a surprise if Edea hadn't seen him out of it for at least a couple of years.]]
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* At the end, [[spoiler: why did Tiz die? It seemed like he died because whatever was giving him life force left...but he never died, if I'm remembering correctly.]]
** The reason likely was because Tiz [[spoiler: technically died when the Great Chasm swallowed Norende. Airy's sister gave her life to him and thus when Tiz, who technically was suppose to die, gave up that portion of his life, he died because he was living on borrowed time.]]
** [[spoiler: Yes, but it was never shown that he was dead, and it wasn't really hinted that there was anything keeping him alive, aside from the Summoner sidequest, and that was kinda vague (again, if I'm remembering correctly.]]

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** The reason likely was because Tiz [[spoiler: technically died when the Great Chasm swallowed Norende. Airy's sister gave her life to him and thus when Tiz, who technically was suppose to die, gave up that portion of his life, he died because he was living on borrowed time.]]
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** [[spoiler: Yes, but it was never shown that he was dead, and it wasn't really hinted that there was anything keeping him alive, aside from the Summoner sidequest, and that was kinda vague (again, if I'm remembering correctly.]]
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** [[spoiler: Except that both Braev and Mahzer recognize him as the one who brought Edea back so... PlotContrivance or AWizardDidIt?]]

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*** [[spoiler: Yes, but it was never shown that he was dead, and it wasn't really hinted that there was anything keeping him alive, aside from the Summoner sidequest, and that was kinda vague (again, if I'm remembering correctly.]]

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*** ** [[spoiler: Yes, but it was never shown that he was dead, and it wasn't really hinted that there was anything keeping him alive, aside from the Summoner sidequest, and that was kinda vague (again, if I'm remembering correctly.]]
** Plus, TheStinger shows him alive, albeit in some sort of life support pod. But Magnolia wasn't worried about the effects of breaking him out.
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*** [[spoiler: Yes, but it was never shown that he was dead, and it wasn't really hinted that there was anything keeping him alive, aside from the Summoner sidequest, and that was kinda vague (again, if I'm remembering correctly.]]

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* [[spoiler:Edea's]] reaction to TheReveal that [[spoiler:Ringabel and Alternis are the same person]] makes very little sense when you consider [[spoiler:they were childhood friends and Alternis was in love with her for a long time, which she was aware of. Not only that, but it's revealed that Braev personally adopted Alternis and raised him as his own son alongside Edea. How did she not know what he looked like?]]
** [[spoiler:In the third loop, where the characters are given the chance to take the place of their versions in that world, Alternis does seem to imply that he donned the Dark Knight asterisk before meeting Braev, and rarely removed it (in public at least). It's possible that Edea may never have seen him out of armour, but that is a ''very'' big stretch of the imagination.]]
** [[spoiler: Except that both Braev and Mahzer recognize him as the one who brought Edea back so... PlotContrivance or AWizardDidIt?]]
** [[spoiler: During his first loop as Alternis, Ringabel fell into lava and had to be nursed back to health. While not commented on in game, this is an at least plausible reason for a difference in appearance. ]]
** [[spoiler: It's possible that the game simply reused Ringabel's model for Alternis when in reality Alternis may have looked slightly different (or at least ditched the pompadour). It's amazing how a haircut and a change in personality can make a person unrecognisable. Also, Edea may have noticed some similarities but never bothered to point it out, after all Ringabel's and Alternis act nothing like each other early on.]]
** [[spoiler:It's probably a good thing to remember that, in the Japanese version, Ringabel/Alternis is only eighteen. Personal appearance is hardly stable during one's teen years. Alternis's journal also implies that he wears the armor almost constantly enough that going plainclothes is uncomfortable for him, so it wouldn't be a surprise if Edea hadn't seen him out of it for at least a couple of years.]]

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