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** The show wants to focus on C-list villains. I think it's a good idea. The well known villains have been done to death, we've seen them so many times in cartoons and movies. Don't you think the C-listers should have the spotlight too? Don't worry, Ra's is in this series. I heard Man-Bat will make an appearance.

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** The show wants to focus on C-list villains. I think it's a good idea. The well known villains have been done to death, we've seen them so many times in cartoons and movies. Don't you think the C-listers should have the spotlight too? Don't worry, Ra's is in this series. I heard Man-Bat will make an appearance.appearance.
** While a little less exposure for the big names sounds good on paper, it almost feels like some of the C-listers were nudged to be more like the A-listers. I haven't read far enough back to read any Anarky stories myself, but his actions in this show seem more like the Joker than the well-intentioned anti-villain suggested by his Wikipedia page. Same question with Magpie. Was the print version that friendly with Batman or did they deliberately make her a Catwoman stand-in? If Tobias Whale goes legit(-ish) and opens a themed nightclub like the Penguin, that would cinch it.
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** The show wants to focus on C-list villains. I think it's a good idea. The well known villains have been done to death, we've seen them so many times in Batman cartoons and movies. Don't you think the C-listers should have the spotlight too? Don't worry, Ra's is in this series. I heard Man-Bat will make an appearance.

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** The show wants to focus on C-list villains. I think it's a good idea. The well known villains have been done to death, we've seen them so many times in Batman cartoons and movies. Don't you think the C-listers should have the spotlight too? Don't worry, Ra's is in this series. I heard Man-Bat will make an appearance.
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** The show wants to focus on C-list villains. I think it's a good idea. The well known villains have been done to death, we've seen them in so many Batman cartoons and movies. Don't you think the c-listers should get the spotlight too. Don't worry, Ra's is in this series, and Man-Bat will make an appearance(from what I heard).

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** The show wants to focus on C-list villains. I think it's a good idea. The well known villains have been done to death, we've seen them in so many times in Batman cartoons and movies. Don't you think the c-listers C-listers should get have the spotlight too. too? Don't worry, Ra's is in this series, and series. I heard Man-Bat will make an appearance(from what I heard).appearance.
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* Now, I confess that I have yet to see even a single episode of this show and I really don't know much about it. But I took a peek at the characters page and I saw something very disturbing. Except for maybe Anarky (who I guess is a big deal in the comics? I confess, all my knowledge of Batman comes from adaptions, mainly Batman: TAS, Justice League, and Batman: TBAB), I don't see any A-list villains here! Where's The Joker? Where's Mister Freeze? Where's the Penguin, Harley Quin, Poison Ivy, Scarface, Killer Croc, Two-Face, Scarecrow and all of the other villains that usually are the reason people get into Batman in the first place? Heck, even The Batman (a show I have mixed opinions about at best) managed to get those guys, so what the hell happened here? And if it's some kind of licencing issue, how the hell does that work when this is a DC made show? I apologize if my tone comes across as a bit inflammatory but this is beyond my understanding without more information. I think the reason behind this, if any, should kind of be put in the front page at the top before the trope list. Kinda a big deal when a Batman cartoon doesn't have, you know, the major Batman villains.

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* Now, I confess that I have yet to see even a single episode of this show and I really don't know much about it. But I took a peek at the characters page and I saw something very disturbing. Except for maybe Anarky (who I guess is a big deal in the comics? I confess, all my knowledge of Batman comes from adaptions, mainly Batman: TAS, Justice League, and Batman: TBAB), I don't see any A-list villains here! Where's The Joker? Where's Mister Freeze? Where's the Penguin, Harley Quin, Poison Ivy, Scarface, Killer Croc, Two-Face, Scarecrow and all of the other villains that usually are the reason people get into Batman in the first place? Heck, even The Batman (a show I have mixed opinions about at best) managed to get those guys, so what the hell happened here? And if it's some kind of licencing issue, how the hell does that work when this is a DC made show? I apologize if my tone comes across as a bit inflammatory but this is beyond my understanding without more information. I think the reason behind this, if any, should kind of be put in the front page at the top before the trope list. Kinda a big deal when a Batman cartoon doesn't have, you know, the major Batman villains.villains.
** The show wants to focus on C-list villains. I think it's a good idea. The well known villains have been done to death, we've seen them in so many Batman cartoons and movies. Don't you think the c-listers should get the spotlight too. Don't worry, Ra's is in this series, and Man-Bat will make an appearance(from what I heard).

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* Now, I confess that I have yet to see even a single episode of this show and I really don't know much about it. But I took a peek at the characters page and I saw something very disturbing. Except for maybe Anarky (who I guess is a big deal in the comics? I confess, all my knowledge of Batman comes from adaptions, mainly Batman: TAS, Justice League, and Batman: TBAB), I don't see any A-list villains here! Where's The Joker? Where's Mister Freeze? Where's the Penguin, Harley Quin, Poison Ivy, Scarface, Killer Croc, Two-Face, Scarecrow and all of the other villains that usually are the reason people get into Batman in the first place? Heck, even The Batman (a show I have mixed opinions about at best) managed to get those guys, so what the hell happened here? And if it's some kind of licencing issue, how the hell does that work when this is a DC made show?
I apologize if my tone comes across as a bit inflammatory but this is beyond my understanding without more information. I think the reason behind this, if any, should kind of be put in the front page at the top before the trope list. Kinda a big deal when a Batman cartoon doesn't have, you know, the major Batman villains.

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* Now, I confess that I have yet to see even a single episode of this show and I really don't know much about it. But I took a peek at the characters page and I saw something very disturbing. Except for maybe Anarky (who I guess is a big deal in the comics? I confess, all my knowledge of Batman comes from adaptions, mainly Batman: TAS, Justice League, and Batman: TBAB), I don't see any A-list villains here! Where's The Joker? Where's Mister Freeze? Where's the Penguin, Harley Quin, Poison Ivy, Scarface, Killer Croc, Two-Face, Scarecrow and all of the other villains that usually are the reason people get into Batman in the first place? Heck, even The Batman (a show I have mixed opinions about at best) managed to get those guys, so what the hell happened here? And if it's some kind of licencing issue, how the hell does that work when this is a DC made show?
show? I apologize if my tone comes across as a bit inflammatory but this is beyond my understanding without more information. I think the reason behind this, if any, should kind of be put in the front page at the top before the trope list. Kinda a big deal when a Batman cartoon doesn't have, you know, the major Batman villains.
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* Now,I confess that I have yet to see even a single episode of this show and I really don't know much about it. But I took a peek at the characters page and I saw something very disturbing. Except for maybe Anarky (who I guess is a big deal in the comics? I confess, all my knowledge of Batman comes from adaptions, mainly Batman: TAS, Justice League, and Batman: TBAB), I don't see any A-list villains here! Where's The Joker? Where's Mister Freeze? Where's the Penguin, Harley Quin, Poison Ivy, Scarface, Killer Croc, Two-Face, Scarecrow and all of the other villains that usually are the reason people get into Batman in the first place? Heck, even The Batman (a show I have mixed opinions about at best) managed to get those guys, so what the hell happened here? And if it's some kind of licencing issue, how the hell does that work when this is a DC made show?

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* Now,I Now, I confess that I have yet to see even a single episode of this show and I really don't know much about it. But I took a peek at the characters page and I saw something very disturbing. Except for maybe Anarky (who I guess is a big deal in the comics? I confess, all my knowledge of Batman comes from adaptions, mainly Batman: TAS, Justice League, and Batman: TBAB), I don't see any A-list villains here! Where's The Joker? Where's Mister Freeze? Where's the Penguin, Harley Quin, Poison Ivy, Scarface, Killer Croc, Two-Face, Scarecrow and all of the other villains that usually are the reason people get into Batman in the first place? Heck, even The Batman (a show I have mixed opinions about at best) managed to get those guys, so what the hell happened here? And if it's some kind of licencing issue, how the hell does that work when this is a DC made show?
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** It's a DC cartoon on Saturday mornings in the 2010s. That's why.

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** It's a DC cartoon on Saturday mornings in the 2010s. That's why.why.
* Now,I confess that I have yet to see even a single episode of this show and I really don't know much about it. But I took a peek at the characters page and I saw something very disturbing. Except for maybe Anarky (who I guess is a big deal in the comics? I confess, all my knowledge of Batman comes from adaptions, mainly Batman: TAS, Justice League, and Batman: TBAB), I don't see any A-list villains here! Where's The Joker? Where's Mister Freeze? Where's the Penguin, Harley Quin, Poison Ivy, Scarface, Killer Croc, Two-Face, Scarecrow and all of the other villains that usually are the reason people get into Batman in the first place? Heck, even The Batman (a show I have mixed opinions about at best) managed to get those guys, so what the hell happened here? And if it's some kind of licencing issue, how the hell does that work when this is a DC made show?

I apologize if my tone comes across as a bit inflammatory but this is beyond my understanding without more information. I think the reason behind this, if any, should kind of be put in the front page at the top before the trope list. Kinda a big deal when a Batman cartoon doesn't have, you know, the major Batman villains.
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* Why was this show put on hiatus?

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* Why was this show put on hiatus?hiatus?
** It's a DC cartoon on Saturday mornings in the 2010s. That's why.
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*** Also he is an accounting genius. Who says he didn't siphon off money to pay freelance thugs to set up his equipment for him that left when the job was done?

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*** Also he is an accounting genius. Who says he didn't siphon off money to pay freelance thugs to set up his equipment for him that left when the job was done?done?
* Why was this show put on hiatus?
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** Some Batman villains from the comics and other media I think were able to do all sorts of grand schemes without the aid of random mooks. The Clock King from the WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries comes to mind, who in his debut episode did all sorts of crazy stuff all by himself. Humpty Dumpty probably most likely falls into the same category as those type of Batman villains.

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** Some Batman villains from the comics and other media I think were able to do all sorts of grand schemes without the aid of random mooks. The Clock King from the WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries comes to mind, who in his debut episode did all sorts of crazy stuff all by himself. Humpty Dumpty probably most likely falls into the same category as those type of Batman villains.villains.
*** Also he is an accounting genius. Who says he didn't siphon off money to pay freelance thugs to set up his equipment for him that left when the job was done?
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** Besides the redesign the machine guns made me think of the ones in Anime/CodeGeass. The design is similar, and the [[http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Small_Arms?file=Britannian_Troops.png assault rifles in Code Geass]] have a [[http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Small_Arms?file=Firearms_-_Ammo_Clip.png side loading magazine]]. I don't know if that much thought went into the redesign but I thought the comparison was notable.

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** Besides the it just being a hasty redesign the machine guns made me think of the ones in Anime/CodeGeass. The design is similar, and the [[http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Small_Arms?file=Britannian_Troops.png assault rifles in Code Geass]] have a [[http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Small_Arms?file=Firearms_-_Ammo_Clip.png side loading magazine]]. I don't know if that much thought went into the redesign but I thought the comparison was notable.
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** Besides the redesign the machine guns made me think of the ones in Anime/CodeGeass. The design is similar, and the [[http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Small_Arms?file=Britannian_Troops.png assault rifles in Code Geass]] have a [[http://codegeass.wikia.com/wiki/Small_Arms?file=Firearms_-_Ammo_Clip.png side loading magazine]]. I don't know if that much thought went into the redesign but I thought the comparison was notable.
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** It's safe to assume Humpty had the logistics prepared in advance. All he had to do was stuff them in the suits then deliver them.

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** It's safe to assume Humpty had the logistics prepared in advance. All he had to do was stuff them in the suits then deliver them.them.
** Some Batman villains from the comics and other media I think were able to do all sorts of grand schemes without the aid of random mooks. The Clock King from the WesternAnimation/BatmanTheAnimatedSeries comes to mind, who in his debut episode did all sorts of crazy stuff all by himself. Humpty Dumpty probably most likely falls into the same category as those type of Batman villains.
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* In "Broken", how did Humpty Dumpty do all this planning and work by himself? With the plans he has it should have required more people to do a job like this. He kidnaps all these people, build all these bombs suits and set them around Gotham without causing suspicions while doing it all in one night.

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* In "Broken", how did Humpty Dumpty do all this planning and work by himself? With the plans he has it should have required more people to do a job like this. He kidnaps all these people, build all these bombs suits and set them around Gotham without causing suspicions while doing it all in one night.night.
** It's safe to assume Humpty had the logistics prepared in advance. All he had to do was stuff them in the suits then deliver them.
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** The guns had to be hastily redesigned after the Aurora shooting, so they probably didn't have time to make them all logical.

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** The guns had to be hastily redesigned after the Aurora shooting, so they probably didn't have time to make them all logical.logical.
* In "Broken", how did Humpty Dumpty do all this planning and work by himself? With the plans he has it should have required more people to do a job like this. He kidnaps all these people, build all these bombs suits and set them around Gotham without causing suspicions while doing it all in one night.
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* Here is something that has been bothering me. Each weapon has been given a Sci-Fi look but still shoots bullets and all that, but that's not the thing that bothers me. The thing that bothers me is ammunition and magazines. With the pistols and the shotgun, fine, those can easily be explained away. Except for the Machine Gun designs, there appears to be no logical way to even have a magazine in that thing. Is this just BottomlessMagazines to the max?

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* Here is something that has been bothering me. Each weapon has been given a Sci-Fi look but still shoots bullets and all that, but that's not the thing that bothers me. The thing that bothers me is ammunition and magazines. With the pistols and the shotgun, fine, those can easily be explained away. Except for the Machine Gun designs, there appears to be no logical way to even have a magazine in that thing. Is this just BottomlessMagazines to the max?max?
** The guns had to be hastily redesigned after the Aurora shooting, so they probably didn't have time to make them all logical.
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** Well Metamorpho is a large monster-like being I think it'd be pretty easy not to notice what he was carrying and just shoot out of fear.
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* In toxic why do the guards shoot at Metamorpho when he's carrying Sapphire? That's their boss's daughter! He's not gonna be happy is they shoot her.

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* In toxic why do the guards shoot at Metamorpho when he's carrying Sapphire? That's their boss's daughter! He's not gonna be happy is they shoot her.her.
* Here is something that has been bothering me. Each weapon has been given a Sci-Fi look but still shoots bullets and all that, but that's not the thing that bothers me. The thing that bothers me is ammunition and magazines. With the pistols and the shotgun, fine, those can easily be explained away. Except for the Machine Gun designs, there appears to be no logical way to even have a magazine in that thing. Is this just BottomlessMagazines to the max?
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** I thought it was some sort of historical landmark or at least a theme building for a park.

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** I thought it was some sort of historical landmark or at least a theme building for a park.park.
* In toxic why do the guards shoot at Metamorpho when he's carrying Sapphire? That's their boss's daughter! He's not gonna be happy is they shoot her.
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*** Not all metropoli are centers of of partying late in the night, some are deserted at nightfall due the high amount of crime, particularly in the shadier areas (where Batman hangs out). It's reasonable to assume these people are just random exceptions (even in the most dangerous of cities, there will always be a few non-criminals who will be walking for one reason or the other) or these scenes take earlier in the night (as they just say "night", we don't know if it is 9 A.M or 4 A.M).
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* Also from Broken, where the heck did Humpty Dumpty's ''castle'' come from? It looks enormous, is completely empty and is apparently within driving distance from Gotham? The show doesn't even try to explain it, Batman sees the model of the castle Humpty's built in his temporary hideout and deduces that's where he's taken them, and the very next scene is the Batmobile driving up to the actual castle itself. Is the country around Gotham known for its number of large, extravagant castles?

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* Also from Broken, where the heck did Humpty Dumpty's ''castle'' come from? It looks enormous, is completely empty and is apparently within driving distance from Gotham? The show doesn't even try to explain it, Batman sees the model of the castle Humpty's built in his temporary hideout and deduces that's where he's taken them, and the very next scene is the Batmobile driving up to the actual castle itself. Is the country around Gotham known for its number of large, extravagant castles?castles?
** I thought it was some sort of historical landmark or at least a theme building for a park.
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** He's on the clock. Gordon had been kidnapped and he worked with what he had.

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** He's on the clock. Gordon had been kidnapped and he worked with what he had.had.
* Also from Broken, where the heck did Humpty Dumpty's ''castle'' come from? It looks enormous, is completely empty and is apparently within driving distance from Gotham? The show doesn't even try to explain it, Batman sees the model of the castle Humpty's built in his temporary hideout and deduces that's where he's taken them, and the very next scene is the Batmobile driving up to the actual castle itself. Is the country around Gotham known for its number of large, extravagant castles?
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* In "Broken", Batman figures out the frequency to disarm the bomb suits, but employs it using single Batarangs, apparently for the purpose of forced drama when he has to hit individual suits to find Gordon and Whale. Why exactly would he not make some kind of area-of-effect emitter that could hit more than one suit at once? It's not just a "hindsight is 20/20" thing--a sonic emitter is way more likely to come to mind than making single Batarangs.

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* In "Broken", Batman figures out the frequency to disarm the bomb suits, but employs it using single Batarangs, apparently for the purpose of forced drama when he has to hit individual suits to find Gordon and Whale. Why exactly would he not make some kind of area-of-effect emitter that could hit more than one suit at once? It's not just a "hindsight is 20/20" thing--a sonic emitter is way more likely to come to mind than making single Batarangs.Batarangs.
** He's on the clock. Gordon had been kidnapped and he worked with what he had.
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*** This might make sense if it weren't for the occasional random pedestrians and other civilians who do show up and there are way less of them then there should be. The cab driver from the Humpty Dumpty episode is a great example. Aside from the cab driver, Batman and the guy in the statue there is no one else in sight and you can see ten blocks or more down the street. Gotham is supposed to be a New York sized metropolitan city and yet it has way fewer people in it than you would expect.

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*** This might make sense if it weren't for the occasional random pedestrians and other civilians who do show up and there are way less of them then there should be. The cab driver from the Humpty Dumpty episode is a great example. Aside from the cab driver, Batman and the guy in the statue there is no one else in sight and you can see ten blocks or more down the street. Gotham is supposed to be a New York sized metropolitan city and yet it has way fewer people in it than you would expect.expect.
* In "Broken", Batman figures out the frequency to disarm the bomb suits, but employs it using single Batarangs, apparently for the purpose of forced drama when he has to hit individual suits to find Gordon and Whale. Why exactly would he not make some kind of area-of-effect emitter that could hit more than one suit at once? It's not just a "hindsight is 20/20" thing--a sonic emitter is way more likely to come to mind than making single Batarangs.
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** It's a dangerous city invariably depicted in the middle of the night. Naturally there aren't that many people around in the regions that Batman frequents, besides the people he targets.

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** It's a dangerous city invariably depicted in the middle of the night. Naturally there aren't that many people around in the regions that Batman frequents, besides the people he targets.targets.
*** This might make sense if it weren't for the occasional random pedestrians and other civilians who do show up and there are way less of them then there should be. The cab driver from the Humpty Dumpty episode is a great example. Aside from the cab driver, Batman and the guy in the statue there is no one else in sight and you can see ten blocks or more down the street. Gotham is supposed to be a New York sized metropolitan city and yet it has way fewer people in it than you would expect.

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Seriously there is virtually nobody around the city.
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Seriously there is virtually nobody around the city.

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Seriously there is virtually nobody around the city.
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** Magpie is a CloudCuckooLander, her thought route is bound to make very little sense. And from what I caught, Magpie was attemmpting to transfer Ravencroft's memories back to herself (in other words, sucking out the memories of the poor woman), so Batman, knowing the entire problem (that Magpie wasn't Ravencroft to begin with), smashed the machine in pieces just in case Magpie managed to knock him out or something similar. Batman was relying on his BreakingSpeech (and his fists, as it is later shown) to make Magpie surrender.

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** Magpie is a CloudCuckooLander, her thought route is bound to make very little sense. And from what I caught, Magpie was attemmpting to transfer Ravencroft's memories back to herself (in other words, sucking out the memories of the poor woman), so Batman, knowing the entire problem (that Magpie wasn't Ravencroft to begin with), smashed the machine in pieces just in case Magpie managed to knock him out or something similar. Batman was relying on his BreakingSpeech (and his fists, as it is later shown) to make Magpie surrender.surrender.

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* When Magpie attacks Doctor Ravencroft, she claims that she can help her retrieve her memories. However, in the scene just prior to this, Magpie has already found a way to reverse the memory-wiping machine to put memories back in. Instead of using this machine on herself to get her memories back, she tries to use it on Batman to replace ''his'' memories. That's when Magpie goes to attack Ravencroft in the desperate hopes of regaining her memory, despite the fact that she had ''just demonstrated'' that she was aware that she already had a means of doing this. She only seems to remember that the machine can give her her memories back ''after'' Batman destroys it in a classic Bat-jerk manner. There's no explanation as to why Batman broke it, either. I only realized how little sense this entire episode made maybe three days after seeing it.
** Magpie is a CloudCuckooLander, her thought route is bound to make very little sense. And from what I caught, Magpie was attemmpting to transfer Ravencroft's memories back to herself (in other words, sucking out the memories of the poor woman), so Batman, knowing the entire problem (that Magpie wasn't Ravencroft to begin with), smashed the machine in pieces just in case Magpie managed to knock him out or something similar. Batman was relying on his BreakingSpeech (and his fists, as it is later shown) to make Magpie surrender.

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