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*** I think a simpler explanation is that ''Beastars'' universe operates similarly to the ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'' universe, as far as these things go. Another explanation is that "species" in this universe is more like "ethnicities" in our universe.

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*** ** I think a simpler explanation is that ''Beastars'' universe operates similarly to the ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'' universe, as far as these things go. Another explanation is that "species" in this universe is more like "ethnicities" in our universe.


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**To address a point, hyenas are ''feliform'' but the confusion might've been unintentional because, well, they do look like dogs and act a little like them, too, but, evolutionarily speaking, they're (technically) cats, having more in common with the rest of the ''feliformia'' suborder——Think of hyenas as being dog software running on cat hardware. As far as the show's lore goes, it's possible that hyenas got classified canids (however that would work by this show's logic).
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!!Shouldn't they have guns or somethin'somethin'?



*** Considering how Mizuchi acts, she might think she's untouchable, and, indeed, she does act like she is. By virtue of being "endangered", the others might be more apt to sympathize with her or give her leeway (inasmuch, after all, IRL, endangered species are granted special protections and exceptions. Thus, Mizuchi is likely used to getting her wayu and, when her boyfriend hops on the town bike, it proves that she doesn't have total control over ever'one and e'erything with her "endangered" status. [[note]]Interestingly enough, IRL, harlequin rabbits aren't ''endangered'', just uncommon.[[/note]]

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*** Considering how Mizuchi acts, she might think she's untouchable, and, indeed, she does act like she is. By virtue of being "endangered", the others might be more apt to sympathize with her or give her leeway (inasmuch, after all, IRL, endangered species are granted special protections and exceptions. exceptions). Thus, Mizuchi is likely used to getting her wayu way and, when her boyfriend hops on the town bike, it proves that she doesn't have total control over ever'one and e'erything with her "endangered" status. [[note]]Interestingly enough, IRL, harlequin rabbits aren't ''endangered'', just uncommon.[[/note]]

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***^But bugs aren't shown to be sapient, tho.



** IRL, a lot of animals are pretty opportunistic/exceptional when it comes to their food and so aren't strictly carnivorous or herbivorous, the classifications going off the ''percentage'' of their diet (i.e a carnivore being defined by its diet consisting of less than 2% plant matter) and their insides (i.e a segmented stomach in a lot of herbivores), so the Paru might've be aware of this, to be fair.

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** IRL, a lot of animals are pretty opportunistic/exceptional when it comes to their food and so aren't strictly carnivorous or herbivorous, the classifications going off the ''percentage'' of their diet (i.e a carnivore being defined by its diet consisting of less than 2% plant matter) and their insides (i.e a segmented stomach in a lot of herbivores), so the Paru might've be been aware of this, to be fair.


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***Considering how Mizuchi acts, she might think she's untouchable, and, indeed, she does act like she is. By virtue of being "endangered", the others might be more apt to sympathize with her or give her leeway (inasmuch, after all, IRL, endangered species are granted special protections and exceptions. Thus, Mizuchi is likely used to getting her wayu and, when her boyfriend hops on the town bike, it proves that she doesn't have total control over ever'one and e'erything with her "endangered" status. [[note]]Interestingly enough, IRL, harlequin rabbits aren't ''endangered'', just uncommon.[[/note]]


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***A lot of animals have night vision of some kind, so that wouldn't matter anyways.
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*** The most vulnerable prey would be small, physically weak, easily manhandled, and lacking natural weapons like horns, strong legs, or huge jaws. Figure squirrels, mice, rabbits, shrews, sheep and pigs, but not much bigger, since anything bigger would pose a threat to the attacker. To reliably kill one of the larger carnivores, such as bears or tigers, you would need to be packing a pretty hefty magnum to do anything against it. Human beings can survive 9mm to the chest as pretty short range, so something as thick as a tiger is going to think it’s a flea bite unless you score a lucky hit. The most vulnerable prey simply do not have the strength to actually carry or use something as big as a .44, what they would need to even wound a tiger, let alone accurately score a shot on a vital organ that will instantly nullify the threat. Sure, they could carry a .22, or a rabbit could MAYBE use something as big as a 9mm, but that’s just going to bounce off one of the bigger predators, and definitely won’t stop a determined wolf from just twisting the victim’s neck. Think about how quickly Legoshi has been able to overtake prey, even without the element of surprise. With the element of surprise, they just wait at an alleyway, grab their victim, and snap the neck. On the other hand, a hippo or elephant could carry a .500 revolver or a sawed off shotgun, and shoot it pretty accurately if they practice, but they are large and strong enough not to even need a weapon in the first place. If a predator is deranged enough to kill and eat a fellow sapient citizen of the city, he or she is probably deranged enough to want to feel the hot blood wash their tongue when they first open the jugular.

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*** The most vulnerable prey would be small, physically weak, easily manhandled, and lacking natural weapons like horns, strong legs, or huge jaws. Figure squirrels, mice, rabbits, shrews, sheep and pigs, but not much bigger, since anything bigger would pose a threat to the attacker. To reliably kill one of the larger carnivores, such as bears or tigers, you would need to be packing a pretty hefty magnum to do anything against it. Human beings can survive 9mm to the chest as pretty short range, so something as thick as a tiger is going to think it’s a flea bite unless you score a lucky hit. The most vulnerable prey simply do does not have the strength to actually carry or use something as big as a .44, what they would need to even wound a tiger, let alone accurately score a shot on a vital organ that will instantly nullify the threat. Sure, they could carry a .22, or a rabbit could MAYBE use something as big as a 9mm, but that’s just going to bounce off one of the bigger predators, and definitely won’t stop a determined wolf from just twisting the victim’s neck. Think about how quickly Legoshi has been able to overtake prey, even without the element of surprise. With the element of surprise, they just wait at an alleyway, grab their victim, and snap the neck. On the other hand, a hippo or elephant could carry a .500 revolver or a sawed off sawed-off shotgun, and shoot it pretty accurately if they practice, but they are large and strong enough not to even need a weapon in the first place. If a predator is deranged enough to kill and eat a fellow sapient citizen of the city, he or she is probably deranged enough to want to feel the hot blood wash their tongue when they first open the jugular.



*** While the predation incidents are horrifying, they don't actually seem "that" common. Tem's murder is the only on-campus death we see. There are additional acts of violence, but you can find those on any real life school. The sad fact of real life is, plenty of colleges have a bad reputation for rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc., yet parents still send their kids because it is just a fact of life.
*** There's still one [[IncrediblyLamePun elephant in the room]] when comparing and contrasting the events of Cherryton high school to those real-life instances in college - assuming you are using the American and Canadian definition. In college, students are legal adults. Regardless of what HelicoptareParents say, once you're 18 and are in college? You're an adult. Socially, legally, physically, and maybe even fiscally. Cherryton is a ''high school''. Yes, even if there are legal adults attending such as Haru, the school is still technically responsible for her unless she is say, emancipated. Society's response towards rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc. on colleges is a resounding ItCantBeHelped more or less ''despite'' the recent dramas about them... because this is happening to ''adults'', and part of the UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming that happens with [[RuleOfThree rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc.]] is because you're not legally required to live on campus. Sometimes it's actually cheaper ''not'' to live on campus. Even if you point out that minors ''can'' attend university programmes, yes this is true... but they may ''not'' live on campus as this requires you to sign a contract, which you can't do until you're a legal adult. This is why many colleges in the states and canada don't allow minors to live on campus, specifically because things happening to them there can put the institution in deep ''deep'' shit.

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*** While the predation incidents are horrifying, they don't actually seem "that" common. Tem's murder is the only on-campus death we see. There are additional acts of violence, but you can find those on any real life real-life school. The sad fact of real life is, plenty of colleges have a bad reputation for rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc., yet parents still send their kids because it is just a fact of life.
*** There's still one [[IncrediblyLamePun [[{{Pun}} elephant in the room]] when comparing and contrasting the events of Cherryton high school to those real-life instances in college - assuming you are using the American and Canadian definition. In college, students are legal adults. Regardless of what HelicoptareParents say, once you're 18 and are in college? You're an adult. Socially, legally, physically, and maybe even fiscally. Cherryton is a ''high school''. Yes, even if there are legal adults attending such as Haru, the school is still technically responsible for her unless she is is, say, emancipated. Society's response towards rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc. on colleges is a resounding ItCantBeHelped more or less ''despite'' the recent dramas about them... because this is happening to ''adults'', and part of the UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming that happens with [[RuleOfThree rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc.]] is because you're not legally required to live on campus. Sometimes it's actually cheaper ''not'' to live on campus. Even if you point out that minors ''can'' attend university programmes, yes this is true... but they may ''not'' live on campus as this requires you to sign a contract, which you can't do until you're a legal adult. This is why many colleges in the states and canada don't allow minors to live on campus, specifically because things happening to them there can put the institution in deep ''deep'' shit.
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!!Legoshi's reputations


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!!Where do omnivores stand?


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!!Sharing a dorm, isn't someone out of place?


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!!Forensics are sorely lacking


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!!The name "Bambi"


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!!No interspecies marriage!


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!!That don't sound right


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***I think a simpler explanation is that ''Beastars'' universe operates similarly to the ''Webcomic/KevinAndKell'' universe, as far as these things go. Another explanation is that "species" in this universe is more like "ethnicities" in our universe.
!!Furry Confusion?


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!!These police ain't great


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!!Again, these police ain't great.


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***Kinda similar to what happened with IRL black markets, any attempts to stop it would have only pushed it underground and or further fueled another one, as, where there's demand, there's gonna be supply.
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!!Pick a different school, y'all.


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!!Carnivore confusion?


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*To answer a few points.
**If memory serves, while they are omnivorous, Mandrills are ''predominately'' herbivorous, as a lot of the protein they eat are usually bugs and the occasional small animal. In this universe, omnivores (or, for that matter, insectivores) don't really fit in, so they gotta pick a side.
**IRL, a lot of animals are pretty opportunistic/exceptional when it comes to their food and so aren't strictly carnivorous or herbivorous, the classifications going off the ''percentage'' of their diet (i.e a carnivore being defined by its diet consisting of less than 2% plant matter) and their insides (i.e a segmented stomach in a lot of herbivores), so the Paru might've be aware of this, to be fair.
**Related to this, hippos are pretty opportunistic as far as their eating goes and may not pass up meat if that opportunity presented itself (as vids would show) but they're also REALLY aggressive, IRL, so the Hippo's taste for meat could be an allusion to these two things.
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!!Sellin' some fingers


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!!Who told the Dorm Mother?


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!!Where do the small animal students go?


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!!Legoshi's crime


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!!"Endangered" being a special status


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!!How does biodiversity work?


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!!Where's dad been?


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!!Shouldn't they use a flashlight
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** [[spoiler: In a history flashback in the manga, its stated that in a herbivore and carnivore war, the herbivore population started out three times larger but by the end of the ear the two populations were at rough numerical parity. Carnivores are much, much stronger than herbivores in this setting]] There's literally no way to do this without risking total extinction.
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*** In other words, eugenics - but less sterilisation and more "Wink wink nudge nudge get together with this person wink wink nudge nudge."
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*Has no one in Beastars heard of a flashlight?
**How come herbivores aren't carrying flashlights for when the power goes out? Seems like an easy solution.
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*** There's still one [[IncrediblyLamePun elephant in the room]] when comparing and contrasting the events of Cherryton high school to those real-life instances in college - assuming you are using the American and Canadian definition. In college, students are legal adults. Regardless of what [[MeddlingParents Helicopter Parents]] say, once you're 18 and are in college? You're an adult. Socially, legally, physically, and maybe even fiscally. Cherryton is a ''high school''. Yes, even if there are legal adults attending such as Haru, the school is still technically responsible for her unless she is say, emancipated. Society's response towards rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc. on colleges is a resounding ItCantBeHelped more or less ''despite'' the recent dramas about them... because this is happening to ''adults'', and part of the UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming that happens with [[RuleOfThree rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc.]] is because you're not legally required to live on campus. Sometimes it's actually cheaper ''not'' to live on campus. Even if you point out that minors ''can'' attend university programmes, yes this is true... but they may ''not'' live on campus as this requires you to sign a contract, which you can't do until you're a legal adult. This is why many colleges in the states and canada don't allow minors to live on campus, specifically because things happening to them there can put the institution in deep ''deep'' shit.

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*** There's still one [[IncrediblyLamePun elephant in the room]] when comparing and contrasting the events of Cherryton high school to those real-life instances in college - assuming you are using the American and Canadian definition. In college, students are legal adults. Regardless of what [[MeddlingParents Helicopter Parents]] HelicoptareParents say, once you're 18 and are in college? You're an adult. Socially, legally, physically, and maybe even fiscally. Cherryton is a ''high school''. Yes, even if there are legal adults attending such as Haru, the school is still technically responsible for her unless she is say, emancipated. Society's response towards rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc. on colleges is a resounding ItCantBeHelped more or less ''despite'' the recent dramas about them... because this is happening to ''adults'', and part of the UsefulNotes/VictimBlaming that happens with [[RuleOfThree rapes, cover-ups, drug use, hazing, etc.]] is because you're not legally required to live on campus. Sometimes it's actually cheaper ''not'' to live on campus. Even if you point out that minors ''can'' attend university programmes, yes this is true... but they may ''not'' live on campus as this requires you to sign a contract, which you can't do until you're a legal adult. This is why many colleges in the states and canada don't allow minors to live on campus, specifically because things happening to them there can put the institution in deep ''deep'' shit.

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** CriticalResearchFailure. Plain and simple.



** The hippo claims to be a carnivore in later chapters, so it’s likely to be a CriticalResearchFailure on the author’s part. However, it could also be due to the fact that hippos have been found cannibalizing their dead on rare occasions and may scavenge for meat when vegetation is scarce. Given the hard dichotomy this world uses for herbivores and carnivores, it could be that even species with some omnivorous adaptations can be considered carnivores.

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** The hippo claims to be a carnivore in later chapters, so it’s likely to be a CriticalResearchFailure mistake on the author’s part. However, it could also be due to the fact that hippos have been found cannibalizing their dead on rare occasions and may scavenge for meat when vegetation is scarce. Given the hard dichotomy this world uses for herbivores and carnivores, it could be that even species with some omnivorous adaptations can be considered carnivores.
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** Jack crying at Legoshi heavily wounded or bandaged is because it's very personal for Jack. Jack clearly sees Legoshi as an older brother figure. Jack is confused he doesn't cry when he learns the dark history of the world he lives in, and thinks there is something wrong with him, and dogs in general.

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** Jack crying at Legoshi heavily wounded or bandaged is because it's very personal for Jack. Jack clearly sees Legoshi as an older brother figure. Jack is confused he doesn't cry when he learns the dark history of the world he lives in, and thinks there is something wrong with him, and dogs in general.general, so he uses onions to cry and be "normal."
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** Jack crying at Legoshi heavily wounded or bandaged is because it's very personal for Jack. Jack clearly sees Legoshi as an older brother figure. Jack is confused he doesn't cry when he learns the dark history of the world he lives in, and thinks there is something wrong with him, and dogs in general.
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* Where did Jack's whole "I have to force myself to cry" thing come from? He was able to cry just fine before, like when he saw how banged up Legoshi was after getting jumped by the killer.
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** Size isn't really indicated to be an issue when it comes to animals cohabitating or living in the same area. Otherwise the school would have had some sort of size stratification going on. So long as he's a male and a canid, no reason he ''can't'' share a room with them. It also may make sense for the school to have dorm rooms with extra space that don't have enough room for another large animal to tetris in a comparatively smaller one to effectively use the space.
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* Why is there a ''Fennec'' in the dorm room with a bunch of people who're around the size of humans?
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*** Its unlikely that their government actually ''forced'' the breeding of dogs from wolves. Legosi is banned from marrying an herbivore because hes known to have eaten herbivore meat (even consensually), but its unlikely in their kind of society they could force reproduction. What they Do have, however, is... Financial Incentive. As has been seen, same species couples in Beastars get a Bunch of government assistance and grants for the mere act of marrying someone of their own species and having "purebred" children, for lack of a better term. Likely a group of wolves selected for both intelligence and nonviolence were given financial incentive to have children, then their children. Until eventually they ended up with modern day domestic dogs.
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*** That just raises further questions - is Legoshi technically an illegally-bred citizen as a wolf? Are other predators exempt from this eugenics mandate? Why ''not'' breed ''them'' too? Lions, Tigers, Bears, Komodo Dragons, and mustelids can be some pretty ''aggressive'' predators in real life - so why shouldn't ''they'' be targeted too? Is there a mandate of species that are at risk of being endangered? Heck, even primates and hippos are pretty dangerous creatures - so why shouldn't ''they'' be part of the eugenics program after 'the War' to be less aggressive?
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*** It's hard to say where it's set - on one hand, the amount of high school cliches like the Shojo Bullies, importance of clubs&club dramas, girls fawning over the "most popular guy in school" as well as a bunch of the names suggest Japan. But on the other hand, the presence of "western" names like Louis, the sheer amount of assault&murder attempts that [[UnusuallyUninterestingSight people treat as a tragedy but seem to move on almost immediately]], the uselessness of the faculty (if not flat out disinterest in ''doing their jobs'') suggests this might be an American high school.
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*** Yeah yeah, I know, America is a disgusting shithole and everything there is garbage— LEAVE POLITICS OUT OF THIS!
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** Probably somewhere with more water. As biodiverse as Cherryton and the city in general seem to be, there doesnt appear to be too much accomodation made for any species that requires being in the water for at least half its lifetime. Likely amphibian species tend towards living in cities that have more accomodation for their needs vis a vis water availability.
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*** Back in them days, our world, people had more thicker skin. Stereotype cartoons were still considered racist and offensive even back then, although most people didn't care and simply ignored them like normal people. However, some were considered offensive enough even back then that resulted in palpable backlash. One being a Tom and Jerry cartoon that apparently mocked the character Mammy Two Shoes in some way. Although overtime people became more PC, depending on whether that was good or bad varies, but in the Beastars Universe it seems to have completely gone in the opposite direction.

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** He had no real reason to ''not'' assume his mom had eaten his dad. Rumors or not, he grew up with the reality that he had never met his father, and surrounded by the idea she had eaten him. If, between childhood and adulthood, there was never any contrary indication of this idea had ever been a lie, since his father clearly went out of his way to avoid his former lover and son, Melon wouldve had no reason to consider any contrary possibilities.

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** He had no real reason to ''not'' assume his mom had eaten his dad. Rumors or not, he grew up with the reality that he had never met his father, and surrounded by the idea she had eaten him. If, between childhood and adulthood, there was never any contrary indication of this idea had ever been a lie, since his father clearly went out of his way to avoid his former lover and son, Melon wouldve would've had no reason to consider any contrary possibilities.possibilities.
* Where the HELL are all the amphibians?
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** He had no real reason to ''not'' assume his mom had eaten his dad. Rumors or not, he grew up with the reality that he had never met his father, and surrounded by the idea she had eaten him. If, between childhood and adulthood, there was never any contrary indication of this idea had ever been a lie, since his father clearly went out of his way to avoid his former lover and son, Melon wouldve had no reason to consider any contrary possibilities.
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** There was never a catalyst for Melon to think, "Hmmm, maybe my insane and abusive mother who constantly spoke of how delicious my father was was using 'delicious' in a metaphorical or sexual manner sense, rather than a literal one, and my father is out there somewhere. In hustle and bustle of running a criminal empire, I should attempt to find my probably dead father, even though all I have to go on is 'male gazelle.' "

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