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** Well, remember that Arkady got captured partly because Ra's abandoned him, feeling he was unfit as an heir. He probably didn't keep track of him in prison because he had no more use for the boy. He may have a lot of resources, but he's not omniscient; he's still human, after all. Later on, he probably assumed he had died in the interim, or he was too busy with other plots to bother looking for a disowned son that he had no interest in, and who he probably didn't want trying to usurp him. Ra's then got some information on him much later and decided to go see his son.
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* The ''Showdown'' episode's main story is Ra's Al Ghul's narrative of Jonah Hex foiling his plan to conquer America in 1883, and capturing his son and second-in-command, Arkady Duvall, who subsequently served 50 years of hard labour before wandering away, his mind shattered by the hardships he'd suffered. The old man Ra's kidnapped from the Gotham retirement home at the beginning of the episode is revealed to be a seemingly vegeative Arkady. How could Ra's, with all his intellect and resources (this is the man who deduced Batman's identity based on a worldwide survey of goods that could be used as Batman's equipment) have taken ''60 years'' (assuming this is 1994-1995) to find his son? And how did Arkady end up in a retirement home in Gotham having (presumably) spent years as a near-mindless homeless derelict?

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* The ''Showdown'' episode's main story is Ra's Al Ghul's narrative of Jonah Hex foiling his plan to conquer America in 1883, and capturing his son and second-in-command, Arkady Duvall, who subsequently served 50 years of hard labour before wandering away, his mind shattered by the hardships he'd suffered. The old man Ra's kidnapped from the Gotham retirement home at the beginning of the episode is revealed to be a seemingly vegeative Arkady. How could Ra's, with all his intellect and resources (this is the man who deduced Batman's identity based on a worldwide survey of goods that could be used as Batman's equipment) have taken ''60 years'' (assuming this is 1994-1995) to find his son? son, let alone lose track of him? And how did Arkady end up in a retirement home in Gotham having (presumably) spent years as a near-mindless homeless derelict?
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* The ''Showdown'' episode's main story is Ra's Al Ghul's narrative of Jonah Hex foiling his plan to conquer America in 1883, and capturing his son and second-in-command, Arkady Duvall, who subsequently served 50 years of hard labour before wandering away, his mind shattered by the hardships he'd suffered. The old man Ra's kidnapped from the Gotham retirement home at the beginning of the episode is revealed to be a seemingly vegeative Arkady. How could Ra's, with all his intellect and resources (this is the man who deduced Batman's identity based on a worldwide survey of goods that could be used as Batman's equipment) have taken ''60 years'' (assuming this is 1994-1995) to find his son? And how did Arkady end up in a retirement home in Gotham having (presumably) spent years as a mentally-withdrawn homeless derelict?

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* The ''Showdown'' episode's main story is Ra's Al Ghul's narrative of Jonah Hex foiling his plan to conquer America in 1883, and capturing his son and second-in-command, Arkady Duvall, who subsequently served 50 years of hard labour before wandering away, his mind shattered by the hardships he'd suffered. The old man Ra's kidnapped from the Gotham retirement home at the beginning of the episode is revealed to be a seemingly vegeative Arkady. How could Ra's, with all his intellect and resources (this is the man who deduced Batman's identity based on a worldwide survey of goods that could be used as Batman's equipment) have taken ''60 years'' (assuming this is 1994-1995) to find his son? And how did Arkady end up in a retirement home in Gotham having (presumably) spent years as a mentally-withdrawn near-mindless homeless derelict?
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* The ''Showdown'' episode's main story is Ra's Al Ghul's narrative of Jonah Hex foiling his plan to conquer America in 1883, and capturing his son and second-in-command, Arkady Duvall, who subsequently served 50 years of hard labour before wandering away, his mind shattered by the hardships he'd suffered. The old man Ra's kidnapped from the Gotham retirement home at the beginning of the episode is revealed to be a seemingly vegeative Arkady. How could Ra's, with all his intellect and resources (this is the man who deduced Batman's identity based on a worldwide survey of goods that could be used as Batman's equipment) have taken ''60 years'' (assuming this is 1994-1995) to find his son? And how did Arkady end up in a retirement home in Gotham having (presumably) spent years as a catatonic homeless derelict?

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* The ''Showdown'' episode's main story is Ra's Al Ghul's narrative of Jonah Hex foiling his plan to conquer America in 1883, and capturing his son and second-in-command, Arkady Duvall, who subsequently served 50 years of hard labour before wandering away, his mind shattered by the hardships he'd suffered. The old man Ra's kidnapped from the Gotham retirement home at the beginning of the episode is revealed to be a seemingly vegeative Arkady. How could Ra's, with all his intellect and resources (this is the man who deduced Batman's identity based on a worldwide survey of goods that could be used as Batman's equipment) have taken ''60 years'' (assuming this is 1994-1995) to find his son? And how did Arkady end up in a retirement home in Gotham having (presumably) spent years as a catatonic mentally-withdrawn homeless derelict?

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** Could you be more clear about what bothers you?

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** Could you be more clear about what bothers you? you?

* The ''Showdown'' episode's main story is Ra's Al Ghul's narrative of Jonah Hex foiling his plan to conquer America in 1883, and capturing his son and second-in-command, Arkady Duvall, who subsequently served 50 years of hard labour before wandering away, his mind shattered by the hardships he'd suffered. The old man Ra's kidnapped from the Gotham retirement home at the beginning of the episode is revealed to be a seemingly vegeative Arkady. How could Ra's, with all his intellect and resources (this is the man who deduced Batman's identity based on a worldwide survey of goods that could be used as Batman's equipment) have taken ''60 years'' (assuming this is 1994-1995) to find his son? And how did Arkady end up in a retirement home in Gotham having (presumably) spent years as a catatonic homeless derelict?
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*** LOOK at his face, it looks like it's partially melted, I know that the art style of the cartoon might not make it scary looking to you, but in real life that would be pretty horrifying.
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*** Knowing the Joker [[CrossestheLineTwice he made sure they were all wearing little party hats when he took them. even the crowbar.]]
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*** So...then you've never seen a pair of sunglasses?


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*** Frank Miller once said something similar. Batman writer and editor Dennis O'Neil once said, "Batman's Gotham City is Manhattan below Fourteenth Street at eleven minutes past midnight on the coldest night in November."


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*** So he assumed he'd make it out before the new cement was poured or after it dried. What's the problem here?
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**** He could also have been screaming her name in rage and desperation, as in "(DAMMIT, HELP ME) STELLA!" Also it was implied in his first appearence that his jackassery as Matt Hagen is what led to the car accident that disfigured him in the first place. His only friend was his stunt double (I think), and from the way they talk about him no one else seemed to be able to stand the guy. As [[AtopTheFourthWall Linkara]] points out in in the [[PowerRangersTimeForce Time Force]] installment of his ''History of PowerRangers'' there is a difference between having a sympathetic back story and ''actually' being a sympathetic character. Clayface has a sympathetic backstory that makes us feel sorry for him, but there is no hard evidence whatsoever that he's an actual sympathetic character. I'm sorry about everything that's happened to you matt, but you're still an asshole and a criminal.
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** Maybe he was trying to quit smoking, so he told himself, "I'll light up, but two or three puffs is ''it''."
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** Could you be more clear about what bothers you?
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That's not fridge logic, that's just commenting on a schedule.


* This show is on Disney XD. But it's aired ''once'' a week. While Batman Beyond is aired every night..Eh?
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"He wasnt saying it's because it's on disney. He said it's because it's on disney!"


*** He didn't say "I don't like it because it's Disney owned", he said he doesn't like the fact ''that'' the show is now owned by Disney, and added that the shows shouldn't be on Disney.
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* How come Paul Dini gets credit that belongs to Alan Burnett? I am constantly at a loss as to why Alan Burnett is left out when talking about the DCAU. This is not a knock on the amazingly talented Paul Dini, but Paul and many other writers worked FOR Alan, who was the driving creative force behind most all of the DCAU on the writing side, just as Bruce was on the art and production side.
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** Four words: Alfred. Scissors. Sewing machine.


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*** This is absolutely true in the GoldenAge comics, where it's called "The Sentinel of Liberty" and carries a lantern rather than a torch. It even showed up in ''Batman Forever''.

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*** This is absolutely true in the GoldenAge [[TheGoldenAgeOfComicBooks Golden Age]] comics, where it's called "The Sentinel of Liberty" and carries a lantern rather than a torch. It even showed up in ''Batman Forever''.
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** I always get Boston impressions from Gotham that and Arkham Asylum.
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** A planned, but never animated, scene from "Robin's Reckoning" would've shown Dick when he first became Robin as a much younger child right. Tim probably found a costume from that point in his career.


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** [[spoiler:We see her on a plane, yes. But we don't know where that plane left ''from''. She could have easily killed those guys, fled the city some other way, and flew in from another airport, or explaning it as a transfer]].
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*** He did yell her name mournfully as he "died", that's got to count for something. Yes, he was extremely temperamental around her, but he was ''dying'', anyone would be in a bad mood. The thing about repeating a line from the film could be an indicator not of fault in him, but in her, as it could mean that she's more in love with his characters than him, and thus he felt he had to answer as a character rather than as the real Hagen. Also, what evidence is there of him being an egotistical jerk before his transformation?
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** As mentioned above, she's insane. My guess is that it's an attempt to work the plant theme further into her lifestyle just for the purpose of show. I wouldn't put it past the character. She's kind of an uppity bitch like that.
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* Again in ''Mask of the Phantasm'', [[spoiler: The Phantasm is in the opening scene, killing mobsters, but we see Andrea (who we'll find out later is the Phantasm) on a plane, not having yet arrived to Gotham.]]
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*The Robin suit...how the heck from TAS to TNA, how does Dick's old Robin suit totally get a new look yet some HOW be a perfect fit for little Tim Drake! Tim was like a young teenager in that series! When Dick left he was in college! The size and height difference! It just doesn't add up!
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->Lock-up: "I was working WITH you Batman! You apprehended the scum of the earth, and I kept 'em locked away!"
->Batman: "I've seen how you treat your prisoners: forgotten and scared, without hope or compassion."
->Lock-up: "Can it be you [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming actually care for those creatures?]] You're just as crazy as they are!"

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->Lock-up: -->Lock-up: "I was working WITH you Batman! You apprehended the scum of the earth, and I kept 'em locked away!"
->Batman: -->Batman: "I've seen how you treat your prisoners: forgotten and scared, without hope or compassion."
->Lock-up: -->Lock-up: "Can it be you [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming actually care for those creatures?]] You're just as crazy as they are!"
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**That episode is pretty clear that Bats honestly wants Harley cured. Add to it the episode about Arkham becoming more prison-like:
->Lock-up: "I was working WITH you Batman! You apprehended the scum of the earth, and I kept 'em locked away!"
->Batman: "I've seen how you treat your prisoners: forgotten and scared, without hope or compassion."
->Lock-up: "Can it be you [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming actually care for those creatures?]] You're just as crazy as they are!"
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*** Actually, it's Metropolis in Delaware, and Gotham in New Jersey.
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* In Mask of the Phantasm, Bruce has a flashback to the night he proposed to Andrea. When they get to her house, we see [[spoiler:future Joker]] throw a cigarette at Bruce's car, presumably because he was done with it. Then when Andrea has a flashback to the same moment from her point of view, [[spoiler:Joker]] is lighting up just moments before when he would have been throwing the cigarette. This troper can only imagine it is because the people who are remembering this night are only human, and it was ten years ago, so they are bound to misremember some things.

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**** But a flower has yet to reproduce, and picking it prevents it from wilting and producing seeds. I think Ivy gets angry not because they're killing the flower but because they're interfering with the plant reproduction. As for the poisons, presumably you could make them from a single petal, which would not necessarily cause the death of the flower.

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**** But a flower has yet to reproduce, and picking it prevents it from wilting and producing seeds. I think Ivy gets angry not because they're killing the flower but because they're interfering with the plant reproduction. As for the poisons, presumably you could make them from a single petal, which would not necessarily cause the death of the flower. flower.
** Human beings (which is essentially what she still is) cannot live on a carniverous diet. As for her being a total ''vegan'', though...I don't know, snobbery of animals so severe that she can't stomach eating them? Or something?

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*** Sad thing is, that's ''incredibly'' in-character for Joker. Hell, he probably took a whole ''portfolio'' of pictures.

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*** Sad thing is, that's ''incredibly'' in-character for Joker. Hell, he probably took a whole ''portfolio'' of pictures. pictures.
** Batman's fear is of loss, which is why he doesn't let himself get close to other people easily, and acts like an assmuncher around them when he does. At most times in his life this fear is made real to him via hallucination with the biggest and defining loss of his life, but for a while the tragedy of losing Robin replaced that as a current central image.
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** Been a while since I've seen that episode but I can definitely tell you that Batman is (a) a control freak, who would want his enemies where he can see them, and (b) the kind of fellow who would consider it unethical to let someone as dangerous as her be someone else's problem in another town. He's obsessive and unyielding.
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*** Knowing Batman he probably had already pieced together the clues about what these two were planning in advance. He just arrived a little too later to stop them is all. Plus they pulled guns on him first. Bad move. Batman had to defend himself.

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