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* Alfred says that Bruce's ancestors once used the caves under the mansion to transport escaped slaves on the Underground Railroad, but Gotham is an island city that gets winters so harsh they cause the massive rivers surrounding it to freeze (the real-life city used for landscape shots is Manhatten, located in one of the farthest-north states in the country). Where could it be located such that it makes for a reasonable stop for slaves escaping to above the Mason-Dixon that is also far-north enough to receive such extreme cold during the winter?

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* Alfred says that Bruce's ancestors once used the caves under the mansion to transport escaped slaves on the Underground Railroad, but Gotham is an island city that gets winters so harsh they cause the massive rivers surrounding it to freeze (the real-life city used for landscape shots is Manhatten, Manhattan, located in one of the farthest-north states in the country). Where could it be located such that it makes for a reasonable stop for slaves escaping to above the Mason-Dixon that is also far-north enough to receive such extreme cold during the winter?winter?
** The [[https://www.iloveny.com/things-to-do/history/underground-railroad/ Underground]] [[https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/little-known-history-underground-railroad-new-york-180953927/ Railroad]] ran all the way to Canada, so being about New York-ish is perfectly fine.

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* Alfred says that Bruce's ancestors once used the caves under the mansion to transport escaped slaves on the Underground Railroad, but Gotham is an island city that gets winters so harsh they cause the massive rivers surrounding it to freeze (the real-life city used for landscape shots is Manhatten, located in one of the farthest-north states in the country). Where could it be located such that it makes for a reasonable stop for slaves escaping to above the Mason-Dixon that is also far-north enough to receive such extreme cold during the winter?


** If you watch the horse closely, it's actually behaving quite calmly under the circumstances, like a well-trained police horse (or well-trained performing horse on a Batman movie set) should. It only rears up or whinnies when ''Crane'' goads it to do so, or when Rachel shoots Crane with the taser: something that would've painfully zapped the horse as well as incapacitated its rider.



** Could be that Bruce had Lucius order up all the necessary ingredients for a ''huge'' batch of antidote, toss them in the mixer, then calmly wait by the phone for a call from the city authorities. "What's that? You need ''how much'' of X,Y, and Z from Wayne Pharmaceuticals? You're in luck: we just got in a big batch. Sure, we can mix it up for you. Better speak up with that formula, it's kind of noisy at my end.... {sound of mixing equipment running full-blast in the background}."

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** Could be that Bruce had Lucius order up all the necessary ingredients for a ''huge'' batch of antidote, toss them in the mixer, then calmly wait by the phone for a call from the city authorities. "What's that? You need ''how much'' of X,Y, and Z from Wayne Pharmaceuticals? You're in luck: we just got in a big batch.received our annual shipment. Sure, we can mix it up for you. Better speak up with that formula, it's kind of a bit noisy at my end.... {sound of mixing equipment running full-blast in the background}."


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** We know he has bat-attracting technology. Probably he has a low-intensity version of his "backup" gadget in operation all the time, to encourage the little mammals to roost in the far end of the cave. That way, no bats disturbed or zapped while clinging to electrical cables, and no guano-splats to wipe off the tumbler's hood.


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** Could be that Bruce had Lucius order up all the necessary ingredients for a ''huge'' batch of antidote, toss them in the mixer, then calmly wait by the phone for a call from the city authorities. "What's that? You need ''how much'' of X,Y, and Z from Wayne Pharmaceuticals? You're in luck: we just got in a big batch. Sure, we can mix it up for you... [sound of mixing equipment already running in the background}"

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** Could be that Bruce had Lucius order up all the necessary ingredients for a ''huge'' batch of antidote, toss them in the mixer, then calmly wait by the phone for a call from the city authorities. "What's that? You need ''how much'' of X,Y, and Z from Wayne Pharmaceuticals? You're in luck: we just got in a big batch. Sure, we can mix it up for you... [sound you. Better speak up with that formula, it's kind of noisy at my end.... {sound of mixing equipment already running full-blast in the background}"background}."





























** Talk to Slenderman if you think a tux spoils the creepy factor of a spooky-faced menace.
























* Why would a vial of the antidote be useful for mass production? (As opposed to a chemical/amino acid structure or even better, detailed instructions for synthesis). Solving the structure of a compound isn't exactly trivial and neither is developing a synthesis from scratch. The only way a vial of something could be useful is if it were a starter culture of bacteria (or other cells) that would product the protein, but that would similarly require a purification method (again not trivial especially when one doesn't know what the antitoxin is. Plus, it's unlikely that cells would have survived in good condition for that long).

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* Why would a vial of the antidote be useful for mass production? (As opposed to a chemical/amino acid structure or even better, detailed instructions for synthesis). synthesis.) Solving the structure of a compound isn't exactly trivial and neither is developing a synthesis from scratch. The only way a vial of something could be useful is if it were a starter culture of bacteria (or other cells) that would product the protein, but that would similarly require a purification method (again not trivial especially when one doesn't know what the antitoxin is. Plus, it's unlikely that cells would have survived in good condition for that long).


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** Could be that Bruce had Lucius order up all the necessary ingredients for a ''huge'' batch of antidote, toss them in the mixer, then calmly wait by the phone for a call from the city authorities. "What's that? You need ''how much'' of X,Y, and Z from Wayne Pharmaceuticals? You're in luck: we just got in a big batch. Sure, we can mix it up for you... [sound of mixing equipment already running in the background}"


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** The grapple gun merely launches the hook into the air. The actual mechanism for hauling Batman himself into the air is in the belt buckle. There's at least one extreme close-up where he winds the line around two points on the buckle and then flies up.

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**** Yeah because District Attorneys are always home promptly at five every night and definitely never forget special events due to a hectic work schedule, high profile public employees are famous for their stable home lives and happy marriages.


** It also seems a little questionable to claim that the Great Fire "hardly qualifies as the fall of a corrupt metropolis". It destroyed about a third of the city (including homes, businesses churches, etc), killed an unknown amount of people,[[note]]The official death toll is six to eight, but this is heavily disputed since many of the people in the area would have been poor and probably ignored.[[/note]] rendered about 70,000 people homeless, and cost would would in today's money be approximately £1.55 billion to clean up. That's nothing to sniff at. No one ever said the League weren't willing to allow the survivors of their purges the chance to rebuild and try again.

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** It also seems a little questionable to claim that the Great Fire "hardly qualifies as the fall of a corrupt metropolis". It destroyed about a third of the city (including homes, businesses churches, etc), killed an unknown amount of people,[[note]]The official death toll is six to eight, but this is heavily disputed since many of the people in the area would have been poor and probably ignored.[[/note]] rendered about 70,000 people homeless, and cost would would in today's money be approximately £1.55 billion to clean up. That's nothing to sniff at. No one ever said the League weren't willing to allow the survivors of their purges the chance to rebuild and try again.


*** I'll add to the above that police horses in the real world are actually trained too handle chaos and riots. It would be weird if GCPD's weren't.

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*** I'll add to the above that police horses in the real world are actually trained too to handle chaos and riots. It would be weird if GCPD's weren't.


** For one, the farmer survived, for two, the League is a group organization, all of whom are party to it's criminal acts, and three, there is a ''huge'' difference between partaking in intentional, cold-blooded execution as a gang initiation,(murder) and creating a dangerous situation that ''could'' kill some of the professional assassins who certainly don't plan to take "no" for an answer. He was choosing the option that best served to protect that man's life, his own life, and Gotham's safety.

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** For one, the farmer survived, for two, the League is a group organization, all of whom are party to it's its criminal acts, and three, there is a ''huge'' difference between partaking in intentional, cold-blooded execution as a gang initiation,(murder) initiation (murder) and creating a dangerous situation that ''could'' kill some of the professional assassins who certainly don't plan to take "no" for an answer. He was choosing the option that best served to protect that man's life, his own life, and Gotham's safety.


** And while we're on the subject of water supplies, how would the plan to have poisoned the water supply rally work? Especially considering water pipes are pressurized, so when cut open like that, water would gush out instead of letting anyone put stuff in it. They would have had to have put the drug in closer to the intake cribs.

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** And while we're on the subject of water supplies, how would the plan to have poisoned the water supply rally really work? Especially considering water pipes are pressurized, so when cut open like that, water would gush out instead of letting anyone put stuff in it. They would have had to have put the drug in closer to the intake cribs.


*** Also, Batman is probably willing to give Falcone a few minor burns, which is the worst he'd probably get from that spotlight assuming he wasn't tied up there for too long. Falcone ''is'' a crime lord who said some pretty nasty things about Bruce and his parents, after all.

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*** Also, Batman is probably willing to give Falcone a few minor burns, which is the worst he'd probably get from that spotlight assuming he wasn't tied up there for too long. Falcone ''is'' a ruthless crime lord who has kept Gotham trapped in corruption, vice and fear, ruled as an arrogantly untouchable overlord for too long and [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking said some pretty nasty things about Bruce and his parents, parents]], after all.

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** Also, Falcone uses it as a taunt because Bruce almost certainly won't enjoy hearing that the man who ''murdered his parents'' was spending his time in prison ''laughing at and mocking them'', and encouraging others to do so. It's a very disrespectful and shitty thing for Joe Chill to do on top of, you know, ''murdering them''.


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*** Also, there's riots and chaos, and then there's that situation, which is an the former at an extreme that the police horse likely hasn't been faced with. That horse's rider had almost certainly been killed in its proximity, had likely been affected by the fear toxin and was acting irrationally in a way that would likely confuse the horse, and then some stranger steal it. At some point, no matter how well-trained, the horse is going to be overwhelmed, revert to instinct, and panic.


** It also seems a little questionable to claim that the fire "hardly qualifies as the fall of a corrupt metropolis"; it destroyed about a third of the city (including homes, businesses churches, etc), killed an unknown amount of people,[[note]]The official death toll is six to eight, but this is heavily disputed since many of the people in the area would have been poor and probably ignored.[[/note]] rendered about 70,000 people homeless, and cost would would in today's money be approximately £1.55 billion to clean up. That's nothing to sniff at. No one ever said the League weren't willing to allow the survivors of their purges the chance to rebuild and try again.

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** It also seems a little questionable to claim that the fire Great Fire "hardly qualifies as the fall of a corrupt metropolis"; it metropolis". It destroyed about a third of the city (including homes, businesses churches, etc), killed an unknown amount of people,[[note]]The official death toll is six to eight, but this is heavily disputed since many of the people in the area would have been poor and probably ignored.[[/note]] rendered about 70,000 people homeless, and cost would would in today's money be approximately £1.55 billion to clean up. That's nothing to sniff at. No one ever said the League weren't willing to allow the survivors of their purges the chance to rebuild and try again.

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** Probably a little of both; he almost certainly has a voice changer in the mask to provoke the effect (especially since in his normal speaking voice he, well, sounds like a bit of a weenie), but the effect is likely magnified an unpleasant amount when you're tripping off his fear toxin.

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