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Also, Azula was too far gone for it to make a difference. You don't stop to tell a rabid mutt "Bad dog!" because it won't register. All Zuko felt he could do at that point was put her down.

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Also, Azula was too far gone for it to make a difference. You don't stop to tell a rabid mutt "Bad dog!" because it won't register. All Zuko felt he could do at that point was put her down.down.
*** Plus, YMMV, but Azula and Zuko DO seem to care for each other. Some people interpret her treatment of him in the beginning of Season 3 as rather decent (aside from the whole "Avatar still alive" thing)...
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* No doubt about it, Zuko slamming Ozai was one of the best moments of the entire series, but am I the only one who was disappointed that Zuko didn't also call out Azula for being such a manipulative bitch and horrible sister? As awesome as their Agni Kai was, it would have been SO much more awesome if Zuko had at least somewhat slammed Azula verbally either before or during the fight...

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* No doubt about it, Zuko slamming Ozai was one of the best moments of the entire series, but am I the only one who was disappointed that Zuko didn't also call out Azula for being such a manipulative bitch and horrible sister? As awesome as their Agni Kai was, it would have been SO much more awesome if Zuko had at least somewhat slammed Azula verbally either before or during the fight...fight...
** If anything he regretted what he thought he had to do--remember, he was prepared to ''kill his little sister''. That's not a mindset where he's ready to call her out, it's a mindset where he has to keep his emotions in check.\\\
Also, Azula was too far gone for it to make a difference. You don't stop to tell a rabid mutt "Bad dog!" because it won't register. All Zuko felt he could do at that point was put her down.

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* No doubt about it, Zuko slamming Ozai was one of the best moments of the entire series, but am I the only one who was disappointed that Zuko didn't also call out Azula for being such a manipulative bitch and horrible sister? As awesome as their Agni Kai was, it would have been SO much more awesome if Zuko had at least somewhat slammed Azula verbally either before or during the fight...



*** No they didn't. They came from an ocean port.

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*** No they didn't. They came from an ocean port.port.
* No doubt about it, Zuko slamming Ozai was one of the best moments of the entire series, but am I the only one who was disappointed that Zuko didn't also call out Azula for being such a manipulative bitch and horrible sister? As awesome as their Agni Kai was, it would have been SO much more awesome if Zuko had at least somewhat slammed Azula verbally either before or during the fight...
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* No doubt about it, Zuko slamming Ozai was one of the best moments of the entire series, but am I the only one who was disappointed that Zuko didn't also call out Azula for being such a manipulative bitch and horrible sister? As awesome as their Agni Kai was, it would have been SO much more awesome if Zuko had at least somewhat slammed Azula verbally either before or during the fight...
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** Yeah I don't why I asked that. I was half-asleep when I wrote that...
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** Sokka was engaging in a personal mission. He doesn't want to bring anyone else into it, and is reluctant to bring Zuko along. Besides, Toph and Aang are not precisely the most subtle of people to bring on a covert infiltration. Sokka also probably didn't want to risk their lives on what might be a boondoggle.
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** Katara used the special water from the pool at the North Pole. She didn't appear to have realized that she could do that with the water until the finale, as she'd had some time to think about it, whereas she didn't have time to consider the possibility while escaping from the prison under Laogai. As for Zuko, yes, it was the redirection that saved him. I thought the series made that fact obvious.
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** They came from the other direction.

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** They came from the other direction.direction.
*** No they didn't. They came from an ocean port.
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* Ok, I am seriously confused over Katara's healing abilities. Why is she able to save Aang, who technically was dead, after Azula shot him with lightning, but not able to save Jet, who was still alive? I really don't get that at all. On a somewhat related note, why does Aang die almost immediately from Azula's lightning, but Zuko doesn't? Is it because of his partial re-directing?

* I understand Sokka wanted to save his father and loves him dearly, and I have a lot of respect for that, but I seriously have two big problems with it. First of all, was Hakoda really in that much more danger than anyone else who was captured because he was a leader and at the Boiling Rock? If yes, I can totally understand the urgency. However, what I really don't get is why he was about to go all alone until Zuko made him accept help. Think of how much easier it would have been if the gang had worked together. Somehow, I don't think Aang practicing Firebending was worth leaving him behind...
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* Season 1, Episode 9 - "The Water Bending Scroll", How in the world did they get those boats UP THAT WATERFALL in the first place? There is simply no way they had the manpower and time to haul a steel boat and a massive Junk up a waterfall of that size.

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* Season 1, Episode 9 - "The Water Bending Scroll", How in the world did they get those boats UP THAT WATERFALL in the first place? There is simply no way they had the manpower and time to haul a steel boat and a massive Junk up a waterfall of that size.size.
** They came from the other direction.

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*** Doesn't that imply that the Sun also has a physical form somewere on the mortal plane. as in some kind of animal seeing not just the Sun in the solar system, it would have made for a good plot if somebody would try to do something to the source of the bad guys powers it would give Aang and co a lot of interesing choices.

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*** Doesn't that imply that the Sun also has a physical form somewere somewhere on the mortal plane. as in some kind of animal seeing not just the Sun in the solar system, it would have made for a good plot if somebody would try to do something to the source of the bad guys powers it would give Aang and co a lot of interesing interesting choices.



* Why does no one seem to pick up on the MIDDLE EASTERN cultural influences? Most people pick up on the Imperial Chinese/Japanse/Tibetan influences in the culture of Avatar but am I the only one to notice the Indian and (before Islam)Turkish/Arabian referances? For example: Fire Nation clothing.
** People keep hearing about the "obvious" asian influences, so that keeps getting passed on as the "absolute truth" i.e. all influences are asian. If/where there are Turkish/Arabian references are not as noticable because of the shere ''amount'' of asian influences referenced by various people.

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* Why does no one seem to pick up on the MIDDLE EASTERN cultural influences? Most people pick up on the Imperial Chinese/Japanse/Tibetan Chinese/Japanese/Tibetan influences in the culture of Avatar but am I the only one to notice the Indian and (before Islam)Turkish/Arabian referances? references? For example: Fire Nation clothing.
** People keep hearing about the "obvious" asian Asian influences, so that keeps getting passed on as the "absolute truth" i.e. all influences are asian. Asian. If/where there are Turkish/Arabian references are not as noticable noticeable because of the shere sheer ''amount'' of asian Asian influences referenced by various people.



** I'm pretty sure Azula shot Iroh with her regular (blue) fire, not lightningh, so he couldn't have redirected it. And my impression was that ''she'' created the explosion as cover to duck away under- Jeong Jeong does something similar in "The Deserter".

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** I'm pretty sure Azula shot Iroh with her regular (blue) fire, not lightningh, lightning, so he couldn't have redirected it. And my impression was that ''she'' created the explosion as cover to duck away under- Jeong Jeong does something similar in "The Deserter".



** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards. In the context of the show, a child probaly just looked like an easy target to take advantage of.

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** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted confronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt isn't in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards. In the context of the show, a child probaly probably just looked like an easy target to take advantage of.



** I assumed that she found this old, abandoned prison and decided to use it for her own purposes.

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** I assumed that she found this old, abandoned prison and decided to use it for her own purposes.purposes.
* Season 1, Episode 9 - "The Water Bending Scroll", How in the world did they get those boats UP THAT WATERFALL in the first place? There is simply no way they had the manpower and time to haul a steel boat and a massive Junk up a waterfall of that size.
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** With a hammer, nails, wrench, possibly a screwdriver... Look, if they have refrigerators (used for torture) and steam-powered jet-skis on this show, One lady can put a door on a cave and build a few cages. She had a lot of time. She was 30 tops, when she escaped, and had to have been there for some thirty years.

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** With a hammer, nails, wrench, possibly a screwdriver... Look, if they have refrigerators (used for torture) and steam-powered jet-skis on this show, One lady can put a door on a cave and build a few cages. She had a lot of time. She was 30 tops, when she escaped, and had to have been there for some thirty years.years.
** I assumed that she found this old, abandoned prison and decided to use it for her own purposes.
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** With a hammer, nails, wrench, possibly a screwdriver... Look, if they have refrigerators (used for torture) and steam-powered jet-skis on this show, One lady can put a door on a cave and build a cage. She had a lot of time. She was 30 tops, when she escaped, and had to have been there for some thirty years. Is that too short a time to steal/acquire the materials she'd need to build a few cages?

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** With a hammer, nails, wrench, possibly a screwdriver... Look, if they have refrigerators (used for torture) and steam-powered jet-skis on this show, One lady can put a door on a cave and build a cage.few cages. She had a lot of time. She was 30 tops, when she escaped, and had to have been there for some thirty years. Is that too short a time to steal/acquire the materials she'd need to build a few cages?
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* In "The Puppetmaster", how did Hama build a prison cell, complete with a metal door and chains, in a cave under a mountain?

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* In "The Puppetmaster", how did Hama build a prison cell, complete with a metal door and chains, in a cave under a mountain?mountain?
** With a hammer, nails, wrench, possibly a screwdriver... Look, if they have refrigerators (used for torture) and steam-powered jet-skis on this show, One lady can put a door on a cave and build a cage. She had a lot of time. She was 30 tops, when she escaped, and had to have been there for some thirty years. Is that too short a time to steal/acquire the materials she'd need to build a few cages?
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** He does try yoga. It doesn't work well for him.

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** He does try yoga. It doesn't work well for him.him.
* In "The Puppetmaster", how did Hama build a prison cell, complete with a metal door and chains, in a cave under a mountain?
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Aang was warning Zuko about the egg. Not the other way around.


** Yes. This troper rather thought that was obvious. The room is a SecretTestOfCharacter and the golden egg is SchmuckBait. If the visitors are thieves they'll take the egg and get caught by the trap. If they're there to learn True Firebending they'll leave the egg alone. The egg itself probably has no significance whatsoever beyond being pretty and glittery. It would've worked great if Aang had listened to Zuko's warning not to touch the egg, but no one ever accused Aang of being the brightest crayon in the box...

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** Yes. This troper rather thought that was obvious. The room is a SecretTestOfCharacter and the golden egg is SchmuckBait. If the visitors are thieves they'll take the egg and get caught by the trap. If they're there to learn True Firebending they'll leave the egg alone. The egg itself probably has no significance whatsoever beyond being pretty and glittery. It would've worked great if Aang Zuko had listened to Zuko's Aang's warning not to touch the egg, but no one ever accused Aang Zuko of being the brightest crayon in the box...
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** Yes. This troper rather thought that was obvious. The room is a SecretTestOfCharacter and the golden egg is SchmuckBait. If the visitors are thieves they'll take the egg and get caught by the trap. If they're there to learn True Firebending they'll leave the egg alone. The egg itself probably has no significance whatsoever beyond being pretty and glittery. It would've worked great if Zuko had listened to Aang's warning not to touch the egg, but no one ever accused Zuko of being the brightest crayon in the box...

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** Yes. This troper rather thought that was obvious. The room is a SecretTestOfCharacter and the golden egg is SchmuckBait. If the visitors are thieves they'll take the egg and get caught by the trap. If they're there to learn True Firebending they'll leave the egg alone. The egg itself probably has no significance whatsoever beyond being pretty and glittery. It would've worked great if Zuko Aang had listened to Aang's Zuko's warning not to touch the egg, but no one ever accused Zuko Aang of being the brightest crayon in the box...
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** He's so stressed out he probably can't meditate anyway.

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** He's so stressed out he probably can't meditate anyway.anyway.
** He does try yoga. It doesn't work well for him.
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** A culture that eats a lot of fish is probably going to have medium/dark skin regardless of latitude. The reason pale skin exists is to let more sun in so your skin can use it to make a vitamin, and fish are naturally high in that vitamin.
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** Meditation is two steps away from being asleep anyway. If he tried it, he might ''really'' fall asleep and have more nightmares, which he doesn't want. Besides, "I'm not going to sleep for two days straight and before I walk into the most important battle of my life" is not on very high on the list of informed decisions.

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** Meditation is two steps away from being asleep anyway. If he tried it, he might ''really'' fall asleep and have more nightmares, which he doesn't want. Besides, "I'm not going to sleep for two days straight and before I walk into the most important battle of my life" is not on very high on the list of informed decisions.decisions.
** He's so stressed out he probably can't meditate anyway.
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* Nightmares and Daydreams. So Aang is stressed out. Why. Doesn't. He. Meditate. In a world of eastern philosophy, this seems like a gigantic plothole! No one even mentions it! It, well... it Just Bugs Me.

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* Nightmares and Daydreams. So Aang is stressed out. Why. Doesn't. He. Meditate. In a world of eastern philosophy, this seems like a gigantic plothole! No one even mentions it! It, well... it Just Bugs Me.Me.
** Meditation is two steps away from being asleep anyway. If he tried it, he might ''really'' fall asleep and have more nightmares, which he doesn't want. Besides, "I'm not going to sleep for two days straight and before I walk into the most important battle of my life" is not on very high on the list of informed decisions.
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** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards. In the context of the show, a child probaly just looked like an easy target to take advantage of.

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** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards. In the context of the show, a child probaly just looked like an easy target to take advantage of.of.
* Nightmares and Daydreams. So Aang is stressed out. Why. Doesn't. He. Meditate. In a world of eastern philosophy, this seems like a gigantic plothole! No one even mentions it! It, well... it Just Bugs Me.
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** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards. In the context of the show, a child probaly just looked like an easy target to take advantage of.
* Ok, so in 'The Blue Spirit,' Zhao makes it clear that he won't kill Aang because the Avatar would just be reborn and the search would start all over again. If the fire nation is aware of this, then why exterminate the Airbenders in the first place? Aang was 12 when he was frozen. This means that Avatar Roku has been dead for 12 years. Which means the Avatar has already been reborn. So wouldn't the SMART thing to do be to take out the Water Tribes first, and THEN go after the airbenders? Why was nobody suspicious when the Avatar wasn't reborn?

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** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards. In the context of the show, a child probaly just looked like an easy target to take advantage of.
* Ok, so in 'The Blue Spirit,' Zhao makes it clear that he won't kill Aang because the Avatar would just be reborn and the search would start all over again. If the fire nation is aware of this, then why exterminate the Airbenders in the first place? Aang was 12 when he was frozen. This means that Avatar Roku has been dead for 12 years. Which means the Avatar has already been reborn. So wouldn't the SMART thing to do be to take out the Water Tribes first, and THEN go after the airbenders? Why was nobody suspicious when the Avatar wasn't reborn?
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** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards. In the context of the show, a child probaly just looked like an easy target to take advantage of.

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** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards. In the context of the show, a child probaly just looked like an easy target to take advantage of.of.
*Ok, so in 'The Blue Spirit,' Zhao makes it clear that he won't kill Aang because the Avatar would just be reborn and the search would start all over again. If the fire nation is aware of this, then why exterminate the Airbenders in the first place? Aang was 12 when he was frozen. This means that Avatar Roku has been dead for 12 years. Which means the Avatar has already been reborn. So wouldn't the SMART thing to do be to take out the Water Tribes first, and THEN go after the airbenders? Why was nobody suspicious when the Avatar wasn't reborn?
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*** Doesn't that imply that the Sun also has a phisical form somewere on the mortal plane. as in some kind of animal seeing not just the Sun in the solar system, it would have made for a good plot if somebody would try to do something to the source of the bad guys powers it would give Aang and co a lot of interesing choices.

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*** Doesn't that imply that the Sun also has a phisical physical form somewere on the mortal plane. as in some kind of animal seeing not just the Sun in the solar system, it would have made for a good plot if somebody would try to do something to the source of the bad guys powers it would give Aang and co a lot of interesing choices.
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** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards.

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** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards. In the context of the show, a child probaly just looked like an easy target to take advantage of.
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** It wouldn't matter if she was blind or not, because he didn't plan on her having ''any'' chance to win. He wasn't swapping the rocks. The first game, he loaded ''all'' of the shells with rocks so she would win, and then the second, he was in the process of putting all of the rocks in his sleeve so she would lose. Toph just tricked him because she's an earthbender.

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** It wouldn't matter if she was blind or not, because he didn't plan on her having ''any'' chance to win. He wasn't swapping the rocks. The first game, he loaded ''all'' of the shells with rocks so she would win, and then the second, he was in the process of putting all of the rocks in his sleeve so she would lose. Toph just tricked him because she's an earthbender.earthbender.
** I once took a class on magic/sleight-of-hand tricks, and one of the things the instructor taught us was the three-card-monte scam. It turns out that when condfronted with a completely random choice, people will pick the middle shell/card more than 50% of the time, so even an honest 3-card-monte game would give the scammer 2:1 odds in their favor (assuming their target isnt in on the trick). But of course, no one ever actually runs these things honestly; after teaching us the trick to it, our teacher then spent the next 20 minutes showing us how to palm cards.
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* Why does the Shell Game Master pick Toph to play? Since he's running a con (and he is running a con, or he wouldn't switch the rock halfway through), he would want to fix the odds so that the player has a 0% chance of guessing correctly. But a blind person would automatically have a 33% chance of guessing correctly, regardless of other circumstances. (Relatedly, why did he bother swapping the rock the first time she was playing? Or did he expect her companions to help her?)

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* Why does the Shell Game Master pick Toph to play? Since he's running a con (and he is running a con, or he wouldn't switch the rock halfway through), he would want to fix the odds so that the player has a 0% chance of guessing correctly. But a blind person would automatically have a 33% chance of guessing correctly, regardless of other circumstances. (Relatedly, why did he bother swapping the rock the first time she was playing? Or did he expect her companions to help her?)her?)
** It wouldn't matter if she was blind or not, because he didn't plan on her having ''any'' chance to win. He wasn't swapping the rocks. The first game, he loaded ''all'' of the shells with rocks so she would win, and then the second, he was in the process of putting all of the rocks in his sleeve so she would lose. Toph just tricked him because she's an earthbender.
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*** Avatar is wuxia. Azula could easily have simply jumped over the wall; she's demonstrated similar jumping feats before. E.g. the intro to "The Southern Raiders," for example, has both Zuko and Azula making leaps that are pretty much impossible in real life.

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*** Avatar is wuxia. Azula could easily have simply jumped over the wall; she's demonstrated similar jumping feats before. E.g. the intro to "The Southern Raiders," for example, has both Zuko and Azula making leaps that are pretty much impossible in real life.life.
* Why does the Shell Game Master pick Toph to play? Since he's running a con (and he is running a con, or he wouldn't switch the rock halfway through), he would want to fix the odds so that the player has a 0% chance of guessing correctly. But a blind person would automatically have a 33% chance of guessing correctly, regardless of other circumstances. (Relatedly, why did he bother swapping the rock the first time she was playing? Or did he expect her companions to help her?)
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*** Possibly because the point of it was served in that single episode. It was the physical reminder of the bond which once existed between the Avatar and the Fire Lord, and once Zuko finally realised the true significance of that relationship in the present day, in ''him'' as a descendant of both, its job was done. To (badly) paraphrase what Zuko said in 'The Firebending Masters', it was a shadow of the past Zuko could learn from in the present, but once it was done he could move on from it. In that aforementioned episode, he understandably feels far more hesitant about explaining he's the crown prince, so perhaps he no longer wanted that association with the Royal Family until he could establish it on his own terms - as with his becoming Fire Lord. (Though admittedly if that were the answer and the writers hadn't simply [[WhatHappenedToTheMouse ignored]] the headpiece, it would have been referred to.)

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