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** Perhaps the guard Ming was sympathetic enough to pass messages to the other White Lotus members.
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* An order by Azulon commanding Ozai to kill his own child will have nothing to do with attempting to distress Ozai over the loss of a loved one. Rather, such an order will be intended to ritually and devastatingly humiliate Ozai in the eyes of the Fire Nation nobility. Azulon will be seen as exerting total and ruthless authority over Ozai, who will be seen as slavishly obedient to the point of emasculation so to kill his own child. If Ozai had obeyed Azulon, Ozai will never be able to hold his head up again in Fire Nation society and will never be Firelord. No wonder Ozai launched a secret coup instead - he has nothing to lose and everything to gain at that point.
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** What would be the point? Zuko wasn't trying to make Ozai feel bad, he was disowning a man who's approval he had been desperately trying to get for years.
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*** There are also guards everywhere. Once the alarm goes out that something's up they'll be ready to take out the gondolas (first by sending them to the other side, then by cutting the lines the the situation looks bas enough). The whole, reason they had to take the Warden prisoner is to try and prevent that and if he hadn't been gagged the line would have been cut before they could get across and before Mai could save them. Yes, the line takes a bit to cut, but not long enough.
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** While It’s certainly possible that Hama killed them but that doesn’t necessarily mean that she was with them when they died. She could have stabbed them or something and they died from the injuries after she left.
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** Flanking the enemy and distracting them with attacks from multiple angles are routine military tactics (when applicable), and if the Southern Raiders are a Fire Nation special forces unit, there's no reason to assume they wouldn't do the same thing. Perhaps the ships we see landing were the majority of the Raiders' fleet, and Yon Rha had a boat like the kind Zuko used in Book One to sneak around and infiltrate the village from a different angle. After all, if all of the warriors in the tribe were focused on attacking the only enemies they know of, it would make sneaking into the village and confronting Kya a cakewalk since there'd be nobody to stop him.
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* Something that occurred to me that I don't have an answer for: at the start of ''The Puppetmaster'', shortly after Katara's campfire story, Toph senses people screaming under the mountain, and suddenly, they stop screaming. At first, I began wondering if maybe it was Hama torturing people and then deciding to kill one or more of them (which would definitely get them to stop screaming), but moments later, it's revealed that Hama was lurking in the dark nearby when she greets them, meaning that unless she somehow teleported from beneath a mountain (and as we see when Aang, Sokka, and Toph go into the mountain to rescue the imprisoned villagers, it's not exactly around the corner, and it takes them a good amount of time to get there and get inside) to just out of sight of the Gaang, the people were screaming and then abruptly stopped for some ''other'' reason. I'm inclined to ask why.
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* Something that occurred to me that I don't have an answer for: at the start of ''The Puppetmaster'', shortly after Katara's campfire story, Toph senses people screaming under the mountain, and suddenly, they stop screaming. At first, I began wondering if maybe it was Hama torturing people and then deciding to kill one or more of them (which would definitely get them to stop screaming), but moments later, it's revealed that Hama was lurking in the dark nearby when she greets them, meaning that unless she somehow teleported from beneath a mountain (and as we see when Aang, Sokka, and Toph go into the mountain to rescue the imprisoned villagers, it's not exactly around the corner, and it takes them a good amount of time to get there and get inside) to just out of sight of the Gaang, the people were screaming and then abruptly stopped for some ''other'' reason. I'm inclined to ask why.
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Judging by her other attempts in ''Lake Laogai'' (all successful), Toph only needs to stand somewhat close to a person on the same earth to determine if they are telling the truth or not. So why wasn't she able to tell that Old Sweepy was lying about Appa's location? All the prerequisites were there.
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* And as for the audience applauding the Gaang's triumphs alongside their eventual downfall... I personally think that sort of double standard is quite normal in belief systems. From my experience, lots of religious people believe that individuals from other religions will suffer eternally in Hell, but will remain perfectly civil to them on Earth, occasionally even forming strong friendships. I don't find it hard to see something similar
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* And as for the audience applauding the Gaang's triumphs alongside their eventual downfall... I personally think in my opinion, that sort of double standard is quite normal in powerful belief systems. From my experience, For example, from personal observation, lots of religious people believe that individuals from other religions will suffer eternally in Hell, but will remain perfectly civil to them on Earth, occasionally even forming strong friendships. I don't find it hard to see something the idea that some Fire Nation citizens hold a similar mentality to be much of a reach, but that could just be me.
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* Perhaps it was not to bore the audience? If the Gaang were portrayed as viscous and unsympathetic, then seeing them primarily achieve victories and recover from their occasional losses would be frustrating at first, and absolutely tedious towards the end. The same would be true if the play was from the perspective of the Gaang's enemies from the Fire Nation, but with the additional disadvantage of making the Fire Nation appear incompetent. If the audience gets bored by the play, the Ember Island Players suffer financial losses, so to keep them invested, they portrayed the Gaang in a sympathetic light... but not ''so'' sympathetic that the people watching would start questioning whether the defeat of the Avatar would really be a good thing.
* And as for the audience applauding the Gaang's triumphs alongside their eventual downfall... I personally think that sort of double standard is quite normal in belief systems. From my experience, lots of religious people believe that individuals from other religions will suffer eternally in Hell, but will remain perfectly civil to them on Earth, occasionally even forming strong friendships. I don't find it hard to see something similar
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** ...Also, it makes for a really weird call back to season 2: If they cut the gondola line, he'll fall and die. If they don't and the prisoners escape, he's got to answer to Azula. Hence, ''CUT THE LINE!''
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** Four nations, each independedent and free, all with their own kind of bending and a healthy level of respect for the good, the natural, and the spiritual. Sozin threw off the balance when he eradicated the Air Nomads and attempted to subjugate the Earth Kingdom and Water Tribes. Zhao unbalanced the relationship between the physical and spiritual worlds by killing the moon spirit. The avatar is both spiritual and physical, and is of the four nations, and it is their responsibility to mediate significant conflicts between groups in both of these spheres.
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* What exactly is this "balance" people in the show keep saying the Avatar is suppose to maintain?
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* What exactly is this "balance" people in the show keep saying the Avatar is suppose to maintain?
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** Doylist answer is that nobody working on the show was blind so is was animated from a sighted perspective. Watsonian answer...maybe it's an air hole?
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** Doylist answer is that nobody working on the show was blind so is it was animated from a sighted perspective. Watsonian answer...maybe it's an air hole?
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**Doylist answer is that nobody working on the show was blind so is was animated from a sighted perspective. Watsonian answer...maybe it's an air hole?
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**He's literally willing to sacrifice his own life. Why would he care about Azula's (or consequences) if he was prepared to die to maintain his record?
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This is a play put on by people in and loyal to the Fire Nation. You would think it would be an excellent propaganda opportunity to reframe events to make the Avatar look bad and the Fire Nation look good. But it doesn't really do that very much. Yes, the characters have been exaggerated, but they're consistently portrayed as trying to help people and generally do good in the world.
Even weirder is the audience, who applaud when the Gaang has major victories, such as the retelling of the assault on the Northern Water Tribe, but also at the ending when Ozai gloats about how evil he is and kills Aang.
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** Zuko didn't appear in the Jeong Jeong episode. They probably figured Zuko wasn't going to risk going through the city during a huge battle with Aang's body, and would instead go somewhere to hideout until it's all over.
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** I agree the story could’ve been more nuanced, but from what I understand it’s meant to showcase how the present day conflict resulted from the choices they made in the past, specifically how Sozin's reasons for wanting to spread the Fire Nation's prosperity were originally generous, and how Roku's kindness in sparing Sozin's life essentially led to the latter betraying him. I think what they were trying to say is how good decisions can lead to bad outcomes and vice versa.
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** I agree the story could’ve been more nuanced, but from what I understand it’s meant to showcase how the present day conflict resulted from the choices they made in the past, specifically how Sozin's reasons for wanting to spread the Fire Nation's prosperity were originally generous, and how Roku's kindness in sparing Sozin's life essentially led to the latter betraying him. I think what they were trying to say is how good decisions can lead to bad outcomes and vice versa.versa, and how everyone, even the Avatar(s), are prone to poor judgment and awful mistakes.
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** I agree the story could’ve been more nuanced, but from what I understand it’s meant to showcase how the present day conflict resulted from the choices they made in the past, specifically what started out as good, or not so harmless, decisions eventually led to horrific outcomes. I think what they were trying to say is that a person’s actions don’t always reflect who they are deep down and everyone, even the Avatar(s), are flawed.
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** I agree the story could’ve been more nuanced, but from what I understand it’s meant to showcase how the present day conflict resulted from the choices they made in the past, specifically what started out as good, or not so harmless, decisions eventually how Sozin's reasons for wanting to spread the Fire Nation's prosperity were originally generous, and how Roku's kindness in sparing Sozin's life essentially led to horrific outcomes. the latter betraying him. I think what they were trying to say is that a person’s actions don’t always reflect who they are deep down how good decisions can lead to bad outcomes and everyone, even the Avatar(s), are flawed.vice versa.
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**I agree the story could’ve been more nuanced, but from what I understand it’s meant to showcase how the present day conflict resulted from the choices they made in the past, specifically what started out as good, or not so harmless, decisions eventually led to horrific outcomes. I think what they were trying to say is that a person’s actions don’t always reflect who they are deep down and everyone, even the Avatar(s), are flawed.
