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**** Yeah, plus Musket balls are a very high calibre. (some .69 & .70) That would probably go through you, easily.
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***Also, Rule of Drama. As mentioned elsewhere, with Achilles dead and the Templars all but eradicated in the Colonies, Connor is not in any mood to be thinking in terms of subtlety. Note the suit up of destiny before the confrontation, he intends to finish it while proudly showing his Native features. He wants Lee to know that the little Native child he held in such contempt has grown into a fierce and proud warrior.
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**Don't forget about the Bleeding Effect. Desmond is immune to it, since he managed to find a Synch Nexus in Revelations, but William could and probably would still be susceptible to it. Given the damage it causes to those who become afflicted by it, the Bleeding Effect would obviously prevent William from attempting to use the Animus. It would be extremely unhelpful to the Assassins' cause if one of their presumably high-ranking members went completely batshit insane.
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** Mmm...best guess (going by memory here, details may be off): The tale was about a wolf that killed two skilled hunters in their camp without either of them even seeing it. What really happened was that one of the hunters murdered the other, after which the wolf attacked and killed him from behind. The gist of it is, no, there isn't some near-invisible devil wolf running around slaughtering hunting camps, this was just LaserGuidedKarma at work.

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** Mmm...best guess (going by memory here, details may be off): The tale was about a wolf that killed two skilled hunters an entire hunting party in their camp without either of them even seeing it. camp. What really happened was that one of the hunters murdered the other, others, after which the wolf attacked and killed him from behind. The gist of it is, no, there isn't some near-invisible super-powerful devil wolf running around slaughtering hunting camps, parties, this was just LaserGuidedKarma at work.
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** Mmm...best guess (going by memory here, details may be off): The tale was about a wolf that killed two skilled hunters in their camp without either of them even seeing it. What really happened was that one of the hunters murdered the other, after which he wolf attacked and killed him from behind. The gist of it is, no, there isn't some near-invisible devil wolf running around slaughtering hunting camps, this was just LaserGuidedKarma at work.

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** Mmm...best guess (going by memory here, details may be off): The tale was about a wolf that killed two skilled hunters in their camp without either of them even seeing it. What really happened was that one of the hunters murdered the other, after which he the wolf attacked and killed him from behind. The gist of it is, no, there isn't some near-invisible devil wolf running around slaughtering hunting camps, this was just LaserGuidedKarma at work.
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** If by "resurrected" you mean recreated as an electronic Animus imprint a la Subject 16...mmm...yeah, not gonna happen. (For one thing, it needs to be done while the person is still alive.) He left quite a legacy, though, so he's not completely out of the picture just yet.

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** If by "resurrected" you mean recreated as an electronic Animus imprint a la Subject 16...mmm...yeah, not gonna happen. (For one thing, it needs to be done while the person is still alive.) He left quite a legacy, though, so he's not completely out of the picture just yet.




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** Mmm...best guess (going by memory here, details may be off): The tale was about a wolf that killed two skilled hunters in their camp without either of them even seeing it. What really happened was that one of the hunters murdered the other, after which he wolf attacked and killed him from behind. The gist of it is, no, there isn't some near-invisible devil wolf running around slaughtering hunting camps, this was just LaserGuidedKarma at work.
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* Two things. Who is viewing Epilogue in the end, searching for Pivot points, and being talked to by Shaun? And - Are we sure that Desmond is dead for good? He can be ressurected you know...

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* Two things. Who is viewing Epilogue in the end, searching for Pivot points, and being talked to by Shaun? And - Are we sure that Desmond is dead for good? He can be ressurected resurrected you know...




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** If by "resurrected" you mean recreated as an electronic Animus imprint a la Subject 16...mmm...yeah, not gonna happen. (For one thing, it needs to be done while the person is still alive.) He left quite a legacy, though, so he's not completely out of the picture just yet.
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** There's a not-unjustified concern that the Apple corrupts anyone who uses it woo much. In ''2'', the codex even suggested that Altair himself was succumbing to its influence.

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** There's a not-unjustified concern that the Apple corrupts anyone who uses it woo too much. In ''2'', the codex even suggested that Altair himself was succumbing to its influence.
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** Aside from the above-mentioned passing-on of genetic information, laying as Connor just long enough to see where the key was buried would probably not have been enough information to find it quickly. By living his life through a few years, you get a sense of not only where the key was later hidden, but where that place was in relation to Boston, New York, etc.

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** Aside from the above-mentioned passing-on of genetic information, laying playing as Connor just long enough to see where the key was buried would probably not have been enough information to find it quickly. By living his life through a few years, you get a sense of not only where the key was later hidden, but where that place was in relation to Boston, New York, etc.
** From a ''gameplay'' perspective, it's simple. The whole point of playing as Haytham is to find out how he establishes his order in the colonies (as well as the, heh heh, true nature of said order). Once that's done, there isn't really anything left for him to assassinate, climb, free run, hunt, or tail until he meets his son much later. Besides, Connor has a lot more weapons and we don't want to waste too much time getting to use them.
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* I may be mistaken, but I could swear the beginning of Sequence 8 says that the year is 1776 as it loads up the Homestead. But then after preventing Hickey from assassinating Washington and Connor is following Achilles and talking about whether to tell Washington he still isn't safe, the date reads June 6, 1775. Is this an error in the game, or am I just seeing things incorrectly?

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* I may be mistaken, but I could swear the beginning of Sequence 8 says that the year is 1776 as it loads up the Homestead. But then after preventing Hickey from assassinating Washington and Connor is following Achilles and talking about whether to tell Washington he still isn't safe, the date reads June 6, 1775. Is this an error in the game, or am I just seeing things incorrectly?incorrectly?
** You are partially correct, the latter sequence says June 16, 1775. However, that scene shows the founders signing the Declaration of Independence (complete with Franklin's famous, possibly apocryphal quote), so unless there is something meta going on about the Templars altering history, I think any grade schooler can tell you what's wrong with that date.
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* What does the tale Boone tells you for "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" have to do with the mission it gives you, or even the tale unlocked in the Animus Database?

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* What does the tale Boone tells you for "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" have to do with the mission it gives you, or even the tale unlocked in the Animus Database?Database?

* I may be mistaken, but I could swear the beginning of Sequence 8 says that the year is 1776 as it loads up the Homestead. But then after preventing Hickey from assassinating Washington and Connor is following Achilles and talking about whether to tell Washington he still isn't safe, the date reads June 6, 1775. Is this an error in the game, or am I just seeing things incorrectly?
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***** As a serious logician will tell you, OccamsRazor is a helpful tool but not a concrete rule of law. For one, the scenario I opted to disclose was only one amongst many possible where Washington is A: not (at least directly responsible for the 1760 attacks and B: did not disclose this to Connor or at least acted as he did in game. There are many, many, many more where those came from. In particular, the use of a "simplest explanation" as evidence in and of itself is severely damaged by the other major premise of the AssassinsCreed world: namely that not only are the history books wrong but *there are wheels within wheels of conspiracy going on, even asides from the overarching Templar-Assassin war* Does this mean that the simplest explanation is necessarily false? Hardly; it's a perfectly valid tool, but it just cannot be taken as certain. Also, it is factually inaccurate to say that only one premise must be true for Washington to have committed the attacks while several premises must be true for the scenario I outlined above (which I personally do not believe in any more than any other theory) to be true. In reality, both consist of a huge but equal or nearly equal number of premises; it's just that the context of the game makes it easier to notice them for alternate theories rather than for the "canon" one, and some of which are easier to swallow than others (like Washington telling the truth to Connor vs. lying). Not the least of which being that we can take everybody's word in the crucial Reveal when there are a huge number of potential motives. In particular, Haytham has nothing to lose by making the accusation regardless of whether it is true or not, and for Washington It's called a Double Bind, lose-lose, or getting hit by a XanatosGambit regardless of the truth. If he is guilty, he either tells Connor a lie and risks having the doubt linger and distrust grow- and possibly alienate the more die hard anti-Indians-, or he tells Connor the truth- in large part because his word is one of the crucial cornerstones of that relationship- and we see what happens in the game on top of alienating the rebel Iroquois. If he is innocent, he can lie and say he did it and see the very foreseeable result we see in the game on top of said Iroquois alienation, or he could tell the truth and risk lingering doubts anyway (especially given Washington's historical conduct doesn't make it that far fetched) and possible backlash from the die hard elements of the European mainstay of the Continentals. That's just what I could think of offhand (and there is more for all of those), leaving aside possibilities and hypothetical like the idea that he's protecting someone. No matter how that situation plays out, there is at least a near certain chance of Haytham walking away with a benefit from that, and Washington taking a loss. Why he would answer a given way in any given scenario is something we could construct yet more hypotheticals around, but I think I've made my point. In a series as labyrinthine as Creed is, it's awfully presumptuous to assume a given theory or motivation is automatically true, and I don't think in a scenario like this- with the evidence we have seen in the canon materials- we can automatically exclude alternatives beyond a shadow of a doubt. I say this as someone who does believe in the "canon"/vanilla explanation personally.
**** This discussion is all well and good, but is missing the point of what spawned all this. The original argument tree was "In real life Washington was retired from the Militia and living in Virginia around the time Connor's village was attacked, making his involvement in a raid on a Native village in upstate New York unlikely at best unless Ubisoft was going the alternate history route, made an honest goof, or Haytham was lying and Washington was not responsible for that particular attack." The original troper assumed there was only three explanations and discounted the fourth; that the Templars rewrote history books to say Washington was retired. The simplest explanation and the only one that has any actual evidence towards it is that everything we saw and heard is the truth; Washington was responsible for the attack on Conner's village, as evidenced by Washington never denying it and justifying it, and History-Buff Shawn confirming it with his database entry. It's theoretically possible that Washington was not responsible and was lying to cover for someone else, but nothing in the game suggests that (compared to every other conspiracy and lie having some proof involved to say it's not as what it appeared) and the developers moving onto AssassinsCreedIV with the only story DLC being a What-If scenario.

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***** As a serious logician will tell you, OccamsRazor is a helpful tool but not a concrete rule of law. For one, the scenario I opted to disclose was only one amongst many possible where Washington is A: not (at least directly responsible for the 1760 attacks and B: did not disclose this to Connor or at least acted as he did in game. There are many, many, many more where those came from. In particular, the use of a "simplest explanation" as evidence in and of itself is severely damaged by the other major premise of the AssassinsCreed ''Assassin's Creed'' world: namely that not only are the history books wrong but *there are wheels within wheels of conspiracy going on, even asides from the overarching Templar-Assassin war* Does this mean that the simplest explanation is necessarily false? Hardly; it's a perfectly valid tool, but it just cannot be taken as certain. Also, it is factually inaccurate to say that only one premise must be true for Washington to have committed the attacks while several premises must be true for the scenario I outlined above (which I personally do not believe in any more than any other theory) to be true. In reality, both consist of a huge but equal or nearly equal number of premises; it's just that the context of the game makes it easier to notice them for alternate theories rather than for the "canon" one, and some of which are easier to swallow than others (like Washington telling the truth to Connor vs. lying). Not the least of which being that we can take everybody's word in the crucial Reveal when there are a huge number of potential motives. In particular, Haytham has nothing to lose by making the accusation regardless of whether it is true or not, and for Washington It's called a Double Bind, lose-lose, or getting hit by a XanatosGambit regardless of the truth. If he is guilty, he either tells Connor a lie and risks having the doubt linger and distrust grow- and possibly alienate the more die hard anti-Indians-, or he tells Connor the truth- in large part because his word is one of the crucial cornerstones of that relationship- and we see what happens in the game on top of alienating the rebel Iroquois. If he is innocent, he can lie and say he did it and see the very foreseeable result we see in the game on top of said Iroquois alienation, or he could tell the truth and risk lingering doubts anyway (especially given Washington's historical conduct doesn't make it that far fetched) and possible backlash from the die hard elements of the European mainstay of the Continentals. That's just what I could think of offhand (and there is more for all of those), leaving aside possibilities and hypothetical like the idea that he's protecting someone. No matter how that situation plays out, there is at least a near certain chance of Haytham walking away with a benefit from that, and Washington taking a loss. Why he would answer a given way in any given scenario is something we could construct yet more hypotheticals around, but I think I've made my point. In a series as labyrinthine as Creed is, it's awfully presumptuous to assume a given theory or motivation is automatically true, and I don't think in a scenario like this- with the evidence we have seen in the canon materials- we can automatically exclude alternatives beyond a shadow of a doubt. I say this as someone who does believe in the "canon"/vanilla explanation personally.
**** This discussion is all well and good, but is missing the point of what spawned all this. The original argument tree was "In real life Washington was retired from the Militia and living in Virginia around the time Connor's village was attacked, making his involvement in a raid on a Native village in upstate New York unlikely at best unless Ubisoft was going the alternate history route, made an honest goof, or Haytham was lying and Washington was not responsible for that particular attack." The original troper assumed there was only three explanations and discounted the fourth; that the Templars rewrote history books to say Washington was retired. The simplest explanation and the only one that has any actual evidence towards it is that everything we saw and heard is the truth; Washington was responsible for the attack on Conner's village, as evidenced by Washington never denying it and justifying it, and History-Buff Shawn confirming it with his database entry. It's theoretically possible that Washington was not responsible and was lying to cover for someone else, but nothing in the game suggests that (compared to every other conspiracy and lie having some proof involved to say it's not as what it appeared) and the developers moving onto AssassinsCreedIV ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIVBlackFlag'' with the only story DLC being a What-If scenario.



*** That doesn't make any sense, because you can play as Altair ''after'' he has children in ''Videogame/AssassinsCreedRevelations''.

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*** That doesn't make any sense, because you can play as Altair ''after'' he has children in ''Videogame/AssassinsCreedRevelations''.''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations''.
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** It's a member of some hacker group that somehow managed to hack into the Animus, IIRC. Shaun isn't the one talking to him or her, by the way, it's the leader of that hacker group.

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** It's a member of some hacker group that somehow managed to hack into the Animus, IIRC. Shaun isn't the one talking to him or her, by the way, it's the leader of that hacker group.group.

* What does the tale Boone tells you for "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" have to do with the mission it gives you, or even the tale unlocked in the Animus Database?
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*** If you want an explanation for why the American forts aren't commanded by Templars, remember that while they have a huge influence, they don't have a huge number of actual members. It could have taken years of maneuvering to get Templars as the commanders of the forts, whereas when Connor liberates a fort, it's pretty much the highest ranking officer of the Patriots becoming the new commander, and it's simply that those people weren't Templars.

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*** If you want an explanation for why the American forts aren't commanded by Templars, remember that while they have a huge influence, they don't have a huge number of actual members. It could have taken years of maneuvering to get Templars as the commanders of the forts, whereas when Connor liberates a fort, it's pretty much it's the highest ranking officer of the Patriots becoming the new commander, and it's simply that those people weren't Templars.



** This is a bit of a cop-out answer but...it's because they're Templars. Pretty much the whole point of the Templars in the series is that their ideals are admirable and some of them are sincere in their beliefs, but that doesn't change the fact that they are still violent extremists that want control more than anything else and will use whatever means necessary to get it, often defaulting to violence because they view any non-Templar opinions with disdain. Johnson may have wanted to protect the natives, but he still wanted them under Templar control, so he may have screwed them over previously to keep them under his thumb. Pitcairn could have chosen more peaceful conditions to negotiate under, but he may have felt it necessary to show the colonists that even though he wanted peace, he COULD crush the colonists with his army if he wanted to, sort of a "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick" approach, though this backfired in a big way. Charles Lee is just straight-up racist and having a dirty native boy spit in his face probably just set him off. As for Haytham, he very well could have written to his Templar brothers in England to ask them to negotiate more with Parliament. We know from history that Britain started to draw down more of its troops from the fighting in America toward the end of the war because they had other conflicts to take care of and that war front was becoming much more of a burden on the economy than they felt it was worth, so maybe in this game that's justified with the British Templars persuading Parliament to gradually withdraw. Either that or Haytham's ego got the better of him and he wanted to control the situation itself without outside help. Vidic....well cant think of an excuse for him beyond just holding the VillainBall.

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** This is a bit of a cop-out answer but...it's because they're Templars. Pretty much the The whole point of the Templars in the series is that their ideals are admirable and some of them are sincere in their beliefs, but that doesn't change the fact that they are still violent extremists that want control more than anything else and will use whatever means necessary to get it, often defaulting to violence because they view any non-Templar opinions with disdain. Johnson may have wanted to protect the natives, but he still wanted them under Templar control, so he may have screwed them over previously to keep them under his thumb. Pitcairn could have chosen more peaceful conditions to negotiate under, but he may have felt it necessary to show the colonists that even though he wanted peace, he COULD crush the colonists with his army if he wanted to, sort of a "Speak Softly and Carry a Big Stick" approach, though this backfired in a big way. Charles Lee is just straight-up racist and having a dirty native boy spit in his face probably just set him off. As for Haytham, he very well could have written to his Templar brothers in England to ask them to negotiate more with Parliament. We know from history that Britain started to draw down more of its troops from the fighting in America toward the end of the war because they had other conflicts to take care of and that war front was becoming much more of a burden on the economy than they felt it was worth, so maybe in this game that's justified with the British Templars persuading Parliament to gradually withdraw. Either that or Haytham's ego got the better of him and he wanted to control the situation itself without outside help. Vidic....well cant think of an excuse for him beyond just holding the VillainBall.
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** It's a member of some hacker group that someone managed to hack into the Animus, IIRC. Shaun isn't the one talking to him or her, by the way, it's the leader of that hacker group.

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** It's a member of some hacker group that someone somehow managed to hack into the Animus, IIRC. Shaun isn't the one talking to him or her, by the way, it's the leader of that hacker group.
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* Two things. Who is viewing Epilogue in the end, searching for Pivot points, and being talked to by Shaun? And - Are we sure that Desmond is dead for good? He can be ressurected you know...

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* Two things. Who is viewing Epilogue in the end, searching for Pivot points, and being talked to by Shaun? And - Are we sure that Desmond is dead for good? He can be ressurected you know...know...
** It's a member of some hacker group that someone managed to hack into the Animus, IIRC. Shaun isn't the one talking to him or her, by the way, it's the leader of that hacker group.

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** June already answered your question FYI. She says that consciousness is just an electrical impulses. And it can be stored in a machine. When she says so, she touches the wall of the Temple. Ergo the entire Temple Is a vessel for June, i'm assuming. The Eye is a force field generator, engulfing entire planet, which can only be activated by genes of TWCB (i'm assuming). And finally once the Eye was activated it sent out sad electrical impulses, liberating her from her prison. The reason why she hanged out to chew out Desmond for being an idiot, is just that - she wanted to gloat a bit. I'm assuming that her mind was torn from her body (like Clay's) and uploaded into the hardware of the Temple. However she isn't an ArtIn. She's like GLADoS, in a way sure, but she retained herself, albeit ~Slightly mad~. As for what will happen after, i think in her Ghost from the Machine form, it will be a lot easier to take over the world. Sure, no sexing for her, no sex slaves and what not, no kids, but plenty of slaves period. I also think that June will simply take over Abstergo, seeing that they are rather close to taking over the world.



** June says that the afromentioned 6th sense is '''Knowing'''. And Eagle vision, and later Eagle Sense is somewhat demo version of it or something that attempts to be said '''Knowing'''. As for what it is, i assume that such sense is actually exactly what it says on the tin. And Apple emulates it in a way. So with '''Knowing''' TWCB knew the future, knew the technology and so on. As for humans they know their target, people of interest, allies, enemies, hiding spots, see through illusions, access memory discs and so on.



** It was dark, and everyone's attention was on something else. Except for the people who were asleep, in which case they were asleep and therefore had no idea what was going on.

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** It was dark, and everyone's attention was on something else. Except for the people who were asleep, in which case they were asleep and therefore had no idea what was going on.on.

* Two things. Who is viewing Epilogue in the end, searching for Pivot points, and being talked to by Shaun? And - Are we sure that Desmond is dead for good? He can be ressurected you know...
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** William has a conversation with Rebecca in ''Revelations'' where he says that Desmond has a higher concentration of Those Who Came Before DNA in his veins. It likely means that he can synchronize with Connor, Altair and Ezio faster as a result. That, and most of the messages Those Who Came Before are ''labelled'' for Desmond.
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***While I agree with the conclusion, considering that in ''Brotherhood'' you can run around like [[http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20111218005414/assassinscreed/images/7/73/Ezio-raiden-brotherhood.png this]], the concept of changing the costume itself doesn't say whether changing clothes to suit environments is canonical or not.
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* How the hell did nobody see Haytham climbing along the balconies in the theatre? There's hundreds of people and not one of them saw him? Likewise, what about when Desmond was running along the catwalk of the stadium and passes ''right under the sign''? How could thousands of spectators fail to see that? AcceptableBreaksFromReality can only be pushed so far.

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* How the hell did nobody see Haytham climbing along the balconies in the theatre? There's hundreds of people and not one of them saw him? Likewise, what about when Desmond was running along the catwalk of the stadium and passes ''right under the sign''? How could thousands of spectators fail to see that? AcceptableBreaksFromReality can only be pushed so far.far.
** It was dark, and everyone's attention was on something else. Except for the people who were asleep, in which case they were asleep and therefore had no idea what was going on.
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** I suppose Desmond is talking about the various tragedies and lost loves that Ezio and Altair went through. It's a bad sign because Desmond is starting to think of those experiences as part of his own identity, giving him a rather fatalistic and depressive demeanor.
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* When Desmond and Bill are talking about Lucy, Desmond says something along the lines of "It all just keeps happening, again and again." Bill is apparently a bit creeped out by this and says "Don't get weird on me, Desmond. What was he talking about, exactly?

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* When Desmond and Bill are talking about Lucy, Desmond says something along the lines of "It all just keeps happening, again and again." Bill is apparently a bit creeped out by this and says "Don't get weird on me, Desmond. What was he talking about, exactly?exactly?

* How the hell did nobody see Haytham climbing along the balconies in the theatre? There's hundreds of people and not one of them saw him? Likewise, what about when Desmond was running along the catwalk of the stadium and passes ''right under the sign''? How could thousands of spectators fail to see that? AcceptableBreaksFromReality can only be pushed so far.
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** Presumably because he's the de-facto leader of the modern day Assassins, and co-ordinates and updates all the other Assassin groups out there, so as a result doesn't have time to go jumping into his ancestors' memories.

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** Presumably because he's the de-facto leader of the modern day Assassins, and co-ordinates and updates all the other Assassin groups out there, so as a result doesn't have time to go jumping into his ancestors' memories.memories.

* When Desmond and Bill are talking about Lucy, Desmond says something along the lines of "It all just keeps happening, again and again." Bill is apparently a bit creeped out by this and says "Don't get weird on me, Desmond. What was he talking about, exactly?

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** They made the game with the "Animus OS". They used the software and presumably the hardware from the acual Animi, but the main function of the Animus, the part that Shaun considers dangerous, is the reliving of genetic memories, which Abstergo presumably isn't putting in their propaganda machine for obvious reasons.
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** Also, what George Washington was in real life was a Freemason, as was a good portion of the other Founding Fathers. I'm really surprised that the writers never did anything more with that than 'secret tunnels.' One could infer that the Masons were a third party with their own agenda during all of this, and simply worked with the Templars and the Assassins whenever it suited their goals.
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* Desmond has a point. Why doesn't William hop in the Animus? It was necessary for up until this game, but now that William is here he can go in. Unless Connor is from Desmond's mother's side of the family, but no one mentions this.

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* Desmond has a point. Why doesn't William hop in the Animus? It was necessary for up until this game, but now that William is here he can go in. Unless Connor is from Desmond's mother's side of the family, but no one mentions this.this.
** Presumably because he's the de-facto leader of the modern day Assassins, and co-ordinates and updates all the other Assassin groups out there, so as a result doesn't have time to go jumping into his ancestors' memories.
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** Maybe the abilities of the eagle vision as we know them are just the tip of the iceberg. Maybe the First Civ knew how to use it for much more than that.

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** Maybe the abilities of the eagle vision as we know them are just the tip of the iceberg. Maybe the First Civ knew how to use it for much more than that.that.
* Desmond has a point. Why doesn't William hop in the Animus? It was necessary for up until this game, but now that William is here he can go in. Unless Connor is from Desmond's mother's side of the family, but no one mentions this.
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*** Not doing anything to them personally hasn't stopped the Assassins from killing people before.
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* When the first Civ talk about how superior they are to us, they usually mention that they had six senses, while we have 5. However, since Juno has mentioned that Desmond possesses their sixth sense, we have to assume that they are referring to eagle vision. So my Question is, what makes Eagle vision so special? We obviously don't know why it works, but as far as the uses the assassins have for it, its primary function seems to be general enhancement of the existing senses, along with the ability to identify potential dangers, guards and identify and follow assassination targets. It doesn't seem like eagle vision had that much to do with the amazing technological and evolutionary advancement the first civ made. So why is it so important to them?

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* When the first Civ talk about how superior they are to us, they usually mention that they had six senses, while we have 5. However, since Juno has mentioned that Desmond possesses their sixth sense, we have to assume that they are referring to eagle vision. So my Question is, what makes Eagle vision so special? We obviously don't know why it works, but as far as the uses the assassins have for it, its primary function seems to be general enhancement of the existing senses, along with the ability to identify potential dangers, guards and identify and follow assassination targets. It doesn't seem like eagle vision had that much to do with the amazing technological and evolutionary advancement the first civ made. So why is it so important to them?them?
** Maybe the abilities of the eagle vision as we know them are just the tip of the iceberg. Maybe the First Civ knew how to use it for much more than that.
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** Just speculating here, but a raw bear pelt can be used for many different things, while a bear rug can only be used as a rug. The price is lower because there's less demand for a bear rug than a bear pelt.

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