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** from what we've been told: first the Windegos almost destroyed everything, then the Sirens spread madness and strife across the nation, then the Pony of Shadows went on a rampage only stopping with the cost of Starswirl and the other Pillars, Sombra conquered and ruled the Crystal Empire before the whole place disappeared, Tirek showed up and drained who knows how many ponies before being sent to Tartarus, then Discord turned Eqestria into a living Nightmare until Celestia and Luna found the Elements of Harmony and then Luna plunged the world into unending night and became Nightmare Moon for a millenia. And the whole time there were hostile dragons, yaks and changelings running around. Yeah, Twilight's really cleaned up the place since the series started, no threat has lasted more than a few days.
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**from From what we've been told: first First the Windegos Windigos almost destroyed everything, then the Sirens spread madness and strife across the nation, then the Pony of Shadows went on a rampage only stopping with the cost of Starswirl and the other Pillars, Sombra conquered and ruled the Crystal Empire before the whole place disappeared, Tirek showed up and drained who knows how many ponies before being sent to Tartarus, then Discord turned Eqestria into a living Nightmare until Celestia and Luna found the Elements of Harmony and then Luna plunged attempts to plunge the world into unending night and became while becoming Nightmare Moon before being banished for a millenia.millennia by her own sister. And the whole time there were hostile dragons, yaks and changelings running around. Yeah, Twilight's really cleaned up the place since the series started, started as no threat has lasted more than a few days.
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** As of "Sweet and Smoky", we at least know that siblings still stick with each other in their adolescent years. No sign of parents though.
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* If the teenage dragons weren't discovered, ''the next generation of dragons would have practically been wiped out for the sake of a lava pool.''
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** Grogar makes it very clear that, even in his weakened state, he has ''far'' more power than the three of them combined. With the bell still there as far as he knows, what's stopping him from trying to go get it himself now that the others have at least learned to cooperate, only to find it missing?
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* The Everfree spreads by its nature now, not beause of Discord's vines. And Starswirl had somehow tamed it before planting the Tree of Harmony. What this "promised land" was like when the three pony tribes arrived? Perhaps, it was DeathWorld even more than now.
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There's much more bad to it than good.
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** [[EvilVsEvil And that's a bad thing?]]
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* Instead of giving Grogar his bell, Tirek, Chrysalis, and Cozy lie to him and claim they were unable to retrieve it. Grogar seems furious at this, [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS9E2TheBeginningOfTheEndPart2 but he has shown in the past to be able to view previous events]]. What if he finds out about their lie later, or already knows about it and has plans to deal with his traitors later?
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* Considering how powerful Grogar is without his bell, the villain trio deciding to betray him by stealing the bell for themselves [[NiceJobFixingItVillain might be the only reason why Equestria isn't flattened to the ground.]]
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* Chrysalis implies that fully draining a creature of love could leave them incapable of ''ever'' feeling love again, hence why she [[PragmaticVillainy always makes sure to leave some for later]].
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* Chrysalis implies that fully draining a creature of love could leave them incapable of ''ever'' feeling love again, hence why she [[PragmaticVillainy always makes sure to leave some for later]].
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* Sandbar lives in Ponyville. He ''had'' to be among the ponies hypnotized by Sombra earlier.
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** from what we've been told: first the Windegos almost destroyed everything, then the Sirens spread madness and strife across the nation, then the Pony of Shadows went on a rampage only stopping with the cost of Starswirl and the other Pillars, Sombra conquered and ruled the Crystal Empire before the whole place disappeared, Tirek showed up and drained who knows how many ponies before being sent to Tartarus, then Discord turned Eqestria into a living Nightmare until Celestia and Luna found the Elements of Harmony and then Luna plunged the world into unending night and became Nightmare Moon for a millenia. And the whole time there were hostile dragons, yaks and changelings running around. Yeah, Twilight's really cleaned up the place since the series started, no threat has lasted more than a few days.
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* [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS8E15TheHearthsWarmingClub We already knew Gallus was an orphan]], so it makes sense that his permission slip had to be signed by Grandpa Gruff instead of a parent. Everyone else (that we see; we don't see Sandbar's slip being signed) had their slips signed by their parents...except Smolder, who had her slip signed by Dragon Lord Ember. This already carries poor implications about Smolder's family situation, but remember "[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS8E11MoltDown Molt Down]]"? In that episode, Smolder herself said that dragon families tend to kick out molting dragons. Smolder's clearly post-molt as she has wings, so does that mean her family never took her back in? Considering being booted from the house during the process is apparently par for the course, do ''any'' dragon families take their children back in once they're done molting, or once the molt begins are they forever on their own?
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*The idea of the Mane 6 being handed the reigns of Equestria simply reeks of this due to the context:
** Twilight's intended transfer of power not only came out of the blue, it also would have taken effect in ''a few days'' as originally planned. Such an abrupt shift in power is usually only seen in ''military coups.'' Delaying it to the end of the season mitigates this.
** Not only will Equestria be losing two of their best politicians, they will be replaced by one princess with barely any experience with politics onscreen and five civilians with no experience in it at all. Their credibility is stemmed from being the vanquishers of evil. Sorry, but AsskickingEqualsAuthority is a very bad way to justify political power.
** Not only is running a school different from running a kingdom as stated during Starlight's attempt to calm Twilight down, even with the MST3KMantra and the WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief in full effect, the Mane 7 will practically '''break from the strain''' by having all their combined responsibilities of having a normal job, being teachers at the School of Friendship and running the country happening ''at the same time''. And there is also the issue when they have to drop everything just to stop an AncientEvil.
** [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E14FameAndMisfortune The Friendship Journal]] being used as a justification of her strength and experience. Not only is it horribly outdated (it stopped updating after Season 4), it is more akin to an adventure novel/diary at best. Outside of friendship, there is nothing in there that shows actual experience in politics or even a coherent ideology.
** Twilight's intended transfer of power not only came out of the blue, it also would have taken effect in ''a few days'' as originally planned. Such an abrupt shift in power is usually only seen in ''military coups.'' Delaying it to the end of the season mitigates this.
** Not only will Equestria be losing two of their best politicians, they will be replaced by one princess with barely any experience with politics onscreen and five civilians with no experience in it at all. Their credibility is stemmed from being the vanquishers of evil. Sorry, but AsskickingEqualsAuthority is a very bad way to justify political power.
** Not only is running a school different from running a kingdom as stated during Starlight's attempt to calm Twilight down, even with the MST3KMantra and the WillingSuspensionOfDisbelief in full effect, the Mane 7 will practically '''break from the strain''' by having all their combined responsibilities of having a normal job, being teachers at the School of Friendship and running the country happening ''at the same time''. And there is also the issue when they have to drop everything just to stop an AncientEvil.
** [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS7E14FameAndMisfortune The Friendship Journal]] being used as a justification of her strength and experience. Not only is it horribly outdated (it stopped updating after Season 4), it is more akin to an adventure novel/diary at best. Outside of friendship, there is nothing in there that shows actual experience in politics or even a coherent ideology.
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The episode doesn't state Grogar created all monsters, only that he created enough to earn the title "father of monsters."
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** Even worse when you consider how when they had their magic taken out of them (temporaril) they reverted to normal animals, the implications of Grogar turning animals who would've been otherwise peaceful or not that dangerous, into evil and chaotic beasts to rule Equestria.
** Even worse when you consider how when they had their magic taken out of them (temporaril) they reverted to normal animals, the implications of Grogar turning animals who would've been otherwise peaceful or not that dangerous, into evil and chaotic beasts to rule Equestria.
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Doctor Hooves is not a Time Lord, he outright admitted he never even developed time travel, only got close to it.
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* The Tree of Harmony getting shattered is even worse when you realize it's sentient enough to create holograms to speak. Sombra just committed onscreen murder.
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