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** Stereotypically. Humans have several sources of glue, one we humans use with fabrics being polymer-based (which, if DJ [=P0N-3=] is any indication, the ponies definitely have access to). Others, however, come from fish, cows (another [=FiM=]-sentient species), and... ''rabbit'' (used in ''bookbinding'', a fact Fluttershy would certainly find horrifying).

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** Stereotypically. Humans have several sources of glue, one we humans use with fabrics being polymer-based (which, if DJ [=P0N-3=] is any indication, the ponies definitely have access to). Others, however, come from fish, cows (another [=FiM=]-sentient [=FiM=]-sapient species), and... ''rabbit'' (used in ''bookbinding'', a fact Fluttershy would certainly find horrifying).


* Luna's rebellion was driven by bitterness that the ponies of Equestria did not appreciate the night she brought and more generally ignored her and took her for granted. Her complaint was with her subjects, ''not'' her sister. Celestia probably understood why her sister was upset and sympathized with her complaint; she probably agreed that their subjects were taking Luna for granted. And yet, Celestia still had her duty: she had to make war upon her own sister on behalf of their subjects, their ungrateful, selfish subjects. Is it any wonder that Celestia become [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask The Mare Wearing The Princessly Mask]] afterward? Or heck, it's possibly the reason why she became the {{troll}} everyone interprets her to be.

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* Luna's rebellion was driven by bitterness that the ponies of Equestria did not appreciate the night she brought and more generally ignored her and took her for granted. Her complaint was with her subjects, ''not'' her sister. Celestia probably understood why her sister was upset and sympathized with her complaint; she probably agreed that their subjects were taking Luna for granted. And yet, Celestia still had her duty: she had to make war upon her own sister on behalf of their subjects, their ungrateful, selfish subjects. Is it any wonder that Celestia become [[TheWomanWearingTheQueenlyMask The Mare Wearing The Princessly Mask]] Mask afterward? Or heck, it's possibly the reason why she became the {{troll}} everyone interprets her to be.

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** There's some controversy regarding whether the Crusaders truly released Discord or whether they were actually the first victims of his corruption. In either case, Discord's prison was already weakening and was bound to break in a matter of days or months, Crusaders or no Crusaders. Fluttershy had no way of knowing the Parasprite she initially found was a dangerous pest (though it doesn't excuse the second one she kept), and Twilight was trying to ''stop'' the Parasprites, not to turn them into killing machines. Same for Pinkie, who was trying to explain in song ''exactly'' what the ponies and buffalo end up understanding by the end of the episode. Point is, all the mortal antagonists are jerks and proud of it, any havoc wreaked by the Mane 6 and friends was accidental.
*** Except maybe the Want It Need It thing. *shudders*

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** There's some controversy regarding whether the Crusaders truly released Discord or whether they were actually the first victims of his corruption. In either case, Discord's prison was already weakening and was bound to break in a matter of days or months, Crusaders or no Crusaders. Fluttershy had no way of knowing the Parasprite she initially found was a dangerous pest (though it doesn't excuse the second one she kept), and Twilight was trying to ''stop'' the Parasprites, not to turn them into killing machines. Same for Pinkie, who was trying to explain in song ''exactly'' what the ponies and buffalo end up understanding by the end of the episode. Point is, all the mortal antagonists are jerks and proud of it, any havoc wreaked by the Mane 6 and friends was accidental.
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(Except maybe the Want It Need It thing. *shudders*thing) was accidental.



* Um, where does Rarity get her ''cat food''?! Ponies are vegetarian, they should have no business making cat food. And AJ with dog food, for that matter. And Pinkie Pie for Gummy? Although, Pinkie Pie is Pinkie Pie, so questioning that is probably a bad idea. But for the others - Vegan pet foods exist.

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* Um, where Where does Rarity get her ''cat food''?! Ponies are vegetarian, they should have no business making cat food. And AJ with dog food, for that matter. And Pinkie Pie for Gummy? Although, Pinkie Pie is Pinkie Pie, so questioning that is probably a bad idea. But for the others - Vegan pet foods exist.



** Actually, there's already a mythological dragon-horse hybrid--it's called a kirin/qilin in Chinese and a longma/ryoma in Japanese. This species has been used as the dragon-pony lovechild (usually of those two) in many fan works. Plus, Discord is a reality-warping god, meaning either he's some exception to the genetics involved, or his kin (even if they look just like him) wouldn't be as dangerous as he.

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** Actually, there's already There exists a mythological dragon-horse hybrid--it's called a kirin/qilin in Chinese and a longma/ryoma in Japanese. This species has been used as the dragon-pony lovechild (usually of those two) in many fan works. Plus, Discord is a reality-warping god, meaning either he's some exception to the genetics involved, or his kin (even if they look just like him) wouldn't be as dangerous as he.

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** Wait wait hang on.. is there a source for a claim that they're seperate entities? I know the fandom loves to think that, but then again the fandom loves to assume a lot of things are go wholely unsupported by canon, so that doesn't really mean much unless she actually said something.
*** [[http://www.derpyhoovesnews.com/lauren-faust-on-lunas-banishment/ Here's a screenshot]] of that particular [[WordOfGod word of Faust]]. But be warned though as this WordOfGod may change due to the fact that she's no longer in charge of the show. The people now in charge of the show may have different things in mind and take a different path.

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** Wait wait hang on.. is there a source for a claim that they're seperate entities? I know the fandom loves to think that, but then again the fandom loves to assume a lot of things are go wholely unsupported by canon, so that doesn't really mean much unless she actually said something.
*** [[http://www.derpyhoovesnews.com/lauren-faust-on-lunas-banishment/ Here's a screenshot]] of that particular [[WordOfGod word of Faust]]. But be warned though as this WordOfGod may change due to the fact that she's no longer in charge of the show. The people now in charge of the show may have different things in mind and take a different path.



* The fact that Spike has a crush on Rarity, and is great friends with all of the other ponies is wonderful, until you realize that dragons have a much longer lifespan than the average pony. Princess Celestia and Princess Luna are basically {{Physical God}}desses so they're exceptions, but eventually [[SoleSurvivor Spike will probably outlive all of his friends.]] The fact that he's already younger than them supports this theory even more. There's a story called ''Growing Up'' [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7441479/1/Growing_Up seen here]] that explains this perfectly. It's beautifully written, but be warned, as it's a massive TearJerker.

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* The fact that Spike has a crush on Rarity, and is great friends with all of the other ponies is wonderful, until you realize that dragons have a much longer lifespan than the average pony. Princess Celestia and Princess Luna are basically {{Physical God}}desses so they're exceptions, but eventually [[SoleSurvivor Spike will probably outlive all of his friends.]] The fact that he's already younger than them supports this theory even more. There's a story called ''Growing Up'' [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7441479/1/Growing_Up seen here]] that explains this perfectly. It's beautifully written, but be warned, as it's a massive TearJerker.



*** Actually, it's seen in the Sisterhooves Social episode that Rarity eats eggs. She makes some for herself and Sweetiebelle after they clean up the mess she made in the kitchen. So I guess all of the ponies aren't constricted to vegan diets.

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*** Actually, it's seen in the Sisterhooves Social episode that Rarity eats eggs. She makes some for herself and Sweetiebelle after they clean up the mess she made in the kitchen. So I guess all of the ponies aren't constricted to vegan diets.



*** This is interestingly explored in the FanFic/PonyPOVSeries where [[spoiler:Fluttershy [[HeroicBSOD breaks down]] and [[StartOfDarkness turns into a]] WellIntentionedExtremist EldritchAbomination when she realizes how cruel the cycle of nature truly is.]]



** He's rather young, so my belief is that he might just not even be aware of the mortal danger Applebloom is in.

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** He's rather young, so my belief is that he might just not even be aware of the mortal danger Applebloom is in.



* After reading about the plot of ''Literature/GracelingRealm'', I cannot but apply it to MLP universe. What if a pony discovers that her/his talent is to kill, or to steal, or to manipulate minds, or to lie? And what are the authorities are supposed to do with said pony after such discovery?

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* After reading about the plot of ''Literature/GracelingRealm'', I cannot but apply it to MLP universe. What if a pony discovers that her/his talent is to kill, or to steal, or to manipulate minds, or to lie? And what are the authorities are supposed to do with said pony after such discovery?



*** I think people put too much emphasis on the words "special talent". Characters have capabilities that aren't purely based on their talents. Twilight, despite having the talent "magic" works as a librarian instead of a court mage, and has a lot of skills in organizing others. Just because something is their "talent" doesn't mean they are irrevocably shackled to said talent.

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*** I think people put too much emphasis on the words "special talent". Characters have capabilities that aren't purely based on their talents. Twilight, despite having the talent "magic" works as a librarian instead of a court mage, and has a lot of skills in organizing others. Just because something is their "talent" doesn't mean they are irrevocably shackled to said talent.



* We have seen that [[PhysicalGod Princess Celestia]] has been alive for thousands of years without showing any sign of wear, presumably making her immortal. However, In [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipisMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]], we see that Twilight has become an Alicorn, just like Princess Celestia is. Well, if Twilight has become an Alicorn, and Princess Celestia and Luna are Alicorns that are presumably immortal as I stated earlier, Twilight should be immortal, right? Wrong. [[WordofGod Word of God]] states that Twilight will not outlive her friends, and the Mane Six are all young adults (as seen in Pinkie Pride, where there are about 21 candles on Rainbow Dash's cake), so that means that they might live for about seventy-something more years. Twilight [[WildMassGuessing might]] be immortal as in "She could age forever, but she could be killed". Out of that, there comes a spine-chilling question: "What's going to kill Twilight, and how?"

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* We have seen that [[PhysicalGod Princess Celestia]] has been alive for thousands of years without showing any sign of wear, presumably making her immortal. However, In [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipisMagicS3E13MagicalMysteryCure Magical Mystery Cure]], we see that Twilight has become an Alicorn, just like Princess Celestia is. Well, if Twilight has become an Alicorn, and Princess Celestia and Luna are Alicorns that are presumably immortal as I stated earlier, Twilight should be immortal, right? Wrong. [[WordofGod Word of God]] states that Twilight will not outlive her friends, and the Mane Six are all young adults (as seen in Pinkie Pride, where there are about 21 candles on Rainbow Dash's cake), so that means that they might live for about seventy-something more years. Twilight [[WildMassGuessing might]] be immortal as in "She could age forever, but she could be killed". Out of that, there comes a spine-chilling question: "What's going to kill Twilight, and how?"



*** I was the original poster of this Fridge Horror, and I would like to say that you, cliffc999, gave a nice and thoughtful reply to my argument.
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* ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic''.
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* The creators seem to take innocent looking plots (Lesson Zero, Cutie Pox) and turn them into tales of horror stories...
** Speaking of, further Fridge Horror can go into the amount of NightmareFuel entries - how many for Season 1? 8/26. How many for Season 2 so far? 6/6. ''Every single Season 2'' episode so far as had quite a bit of NightmareFuel already, far surpassing that of Season 1. ''How far is it going to go?!''
** Wish granted: The Sisterhooves Social, a cute, friendly story about siblings fighting, then making up, as well as further proof that Sweetie Belle is a little...slow...
** "The Cutie Pox" could be counted as 5/6 if you take the whole VideoGame/StoryOfTheBlanks similarities and potential death by exhaustion or dangerous cutie marks into account. But even if you don't count it, you could still say that Season 2 has half as many episodes of Nightmare Fuel so far as Season 1 did, and the Season is only a forth of the way over. As for overthinking everything, we're tropers, it's a natural thing.
** If you take the time to notice, you can see that season 2 is much more intended for a wider audience (Possibly due to the Bronies). Comparing Pinkie's breakdown with Twilight's is a good example. Pinkie's was slightly tamer and a bit more comical than Twilight's, who looked to be '''trying''' to do more harm than good. The storylines (And the friendship lessons themselves) are becoming a tad more developed and complex. For example, compare Applebuck Season with The Last Roundup.



* MLP: FIM's target demographic are young girls. So surely many innocent little girls would have looked up Pinkie Pie Cupcakes on youtube, just looking for the cupcake song from Call of the Cutie, only to find a horribly gory fanfic. And that would be the day their childhood ended. Amusingly, simply searching for Cupcakes on Youtube gives the fan video as the #2 result as of June 2013, meaning any kid looking for a video about how to make cupcakes might get an interesting surprise.
** Consider something else. There is [[RuleThirtyFour Rule 34]] of this. The target demographic is young girls...so imagine what would happen when they look for innocent artwork, only to discover pornographic images of ponies. And if that's not bad enough, consider the fact that somewhere out there...there is ''demand'' for this. Someone saw this and thought they wanted to sexualize it. There are people out there (nicknamed 'cloppers' in the Brony community) who are bold enough to see this show and [[ADateWithRosiePalms masturbate]] to sexual fantasies about it.
*** [[SarcasmMode Goodness gracious, how]] ''[[SarcasmMode dare]]'' [[SarcasmMode they draw rule 34 of a popular show]] when there are still parents [[ParentalObliviousness who think it's a good idea to let their little kids use Internet]] [[ParentalNeglect without any parental control]]?
*** [[SarcasmMode Goodness gracious, how]] ''[[SarcasmMode terrible]]'' [[SarcasmMode it is that there are people out there who think there's something iffy about pornography about cartoon horses from a series aimed at small children.]]
*** This isn't new, there's [[RuleThirtyFour Rule 34]] of all sorts of things, including Dora the Explorer and Sesame Street, as sad as those two are. At least their art generally involves adult characters.
*** Google's default settings filter those sort of images, [[AIIsACrapshoot no idea how it would judge that though]]
*** Search images with SafeSearch. Flag. Repeat.



* This is actually FridgeHorror about the fandom: I can't help but notice that a lot of the fanon and fanwork that has sprung up around this show assumes the existence of a lot of bullying and other assorted cruelty in Equestria. There are fans that seem to believe that Twilight was bullied as a child, that Derpy was possibly abused and abandoned as a child by one or both parents, or that Derpy was bullied and tormented as a child and as an adult for being different, that Pinkie Pie's differences are the result of past trauma, etc., etc. This is despite the all the overt evidence that Equestria, in Chrysalis' words, is "full of love," that the ponies are, as a rule, kind, generous, and accepting, and that bullying and cruelty are rare exceptions, and not at all the norm. That said it's not entirely fair to accuse the fans of projecting their own life experiences onto Equestria, given the evidence below of bullying on the show, but it may play a factor.
** Not surprising, when one thinks about it. I'm sure it happens often enough in other fandoms that involve worlds that generally happy and peaceful.
** Perhaps only Equestria is peaceful, and the rest of the world is a horrible place. Chrysalis did say that in all the places they had traveled too, they hadn't found nearly as much love.
*** Which is disturbing in of itself, when one considers the possibility that Equestria is possibly the only inhabited land on their planet.
*** Possibly disproven with the 2012 SDCC Map of Equestria where there seems to be far off lands for Griffins, dragons and presumably other species. Possibly though that Equestria happens to be the most love filled or simple hyperbole.
*** As mentioned above, dragons are inherently greedy assholes, and what we've seen of griffins so far hasn't exactly been rainbows and sunshine either. When compared to other parts of the world, Equestria could verily be the land with the most love.
** Rainbow Dash, Fluttershy, and the Cutie Mark Crusaders were/are all picked on as fillies, which is a form of bullying.
** With the way that background characters are very much prone to {{Jerkass}} tendencies, it isn't that difficult to believe that "Equestria has more love then anywhere else" is little more then an InformedAttribute. Also, people are fans of the DarkAndTroubledPast and bullying is the most relatable problems one has in childhood.
** All said, bullying is as canon in Equestria as anything, judging from Babs Seed's episode and just about any scene with Silver Spoon and Diamond Tiara, as well as the teasing that Fluttershy and Rainbow Dash were seen to have undergone as fillies. Besides - given the kind of things present in Equestria, such as a God of chaos, the Gates of Tartarus within running distance of Ponyville and a sadistic King who enslaved an entire kingdom and traps ponies inside of their worst fear - the occasional foal-bully seems like the least of one's worries. Equestria is a happy place to live, no doubt, but there can be no denying that crap goes down if you happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.
* More FridgeHorror regarding fandom. There are numerous cases where people ask why the heroes do something nice or not do something mean, only to claim FridgeBrilliance because it ties into their Element. What's horrifying is that this means that the viewers see the good that they do is not because they're good people, but rather out of some sense of obligation to fulfill their duties as representative of a cosmic imperative. What's worse is that our heroes fail to live up to their cosmic imperative not infrequently.
** Or they simply are good people, and that's why they got the elements in the first place.
*** Yeah, but if Cherilee does something nice instead of something mean, no one asks why she did X only to claim FridgeBrilliance, because it ties to her Element. She does nice things because she's a nice person. But the way some tropers act, you'd think if people weren't tied to some magical cosmic artifact, they'd act like jerks all the time.
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** Where are they in ''Make Your Mark'' then? We did see Twilight’s message but are they still alive somewhere or gone?
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* After reading about the plot of ''Literature/{{Graceling}}'', I cannot but apply it to MLP universe. What if a pony discovers that her/his talent is to kill, or to steal, or to manipulate minds, or to lie? And what are the authorities are supposed to do with said pony after such discovery?

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* After reading about the plot of ''Literature/{{Graceling}}'', ''Literature/GracelingRealm'', I cannot but apply it to MLP universe. What if a pony discovers that her/his talent is to kill, or to steal, or to manipulate minds, or to lie? And what are the authorities are supposed to do with said pony after such discovery?
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** People have been taught to believe that [[WideEyedIdealist optimism and seeing the world in a positive light]] is [[SillyRabbitIdealismIsForKids "childish" and "unrealistic"]]. The adult fans look for bad things and focus on the worse aspects because they want to make the show more "realistic" to them, because they cannot conceive of a world that simple and good existing.
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* In hindsight, every time Equestria is in danger, the human world runs a certain risk too. If Equestria falls, Princess Twilight would be unable to communicate with Sunset Shimmer. And since the human world has been used practicvally as a dump for anything dangerous by several people througth centuries, the Humance Seven ''need'' to communicate with Twilight to have an idea of what they are dealing with whenever said danger shows up. That dosen't necessarily mean they would be doomed, but it sure would make things a lot harder.
** If that wasn't enough, Queen Chrysalis was dangerously close to learn twice about the human world. First, in the season 6 finale when she arranged the Mane 6 to be replaced by Changelings, and later in "The Mean 6" when she created clones of the Mane Six. All that she needed to learn about it was whoever was posing as Twilight findijng the diary and/or Sunset writing a message (and in the second case, for the fake Twilight to go to the castle).
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** Perhaps he has been given the equivalent of clothes and socks(AKA boring stuff he would need anyway), and thus don't consider them gifts.

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** Perhaps he has been given the equivalent of clothes and socks(AKA socks (AKA boring stuff he would need anyway), and thus don't consider them gifts.



** The creators had Spike eat gems to get around the "eating ponies" problem. [[DoubleSubversion Instead]], they changed "dragons eating everything not tied down" to "dragons ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E10SecretOfMyExcess stealing]]'' everything tied not tied down (and even most things that are)".

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** The creators had Spike eat gems to get around the "eating ponies" problem. [[DoubleSubversion Instead]], they changed "dragons eating everything not tied down" to "dragons ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS2E10SecretOfMyExcess stealing]]'' everything tied not tied down (and even most things that are)".



** The main reason for this is most likely that Equestria is a pretty peaceful place in which, aside from threats like Discord or Crysalis which are just to powerful for them, there is not really anything that they need to fight. It is not to unreasonable that beeing a royal guard means as much as just having a safe, well payed job which gets you a nice bit of prestiege and some nice skills on top of that, just like other peaceful countries in the real world see their military. West German (before reunification) people saw their military like this and it is usually seen like this up to today in Germany.

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** The main reason for this is most likely that Equestria is a pretty peaceful place in which, aside from threats like Discord or Crysalis which are just to powerful for them, there is not really anything that they need to fight. It is not to too unreasonable that beeing being a royal guard means as much as just having a safe, well payed job which gets you a nice bit of prestiege and some nice skills on top of that, just like other peaceful countries in the real world see their military. West German (before reunification) people saw their military like this and it is usually seen like this up to today in Germany.



* In Lesson Zero, Twilight Sparkle thinks Celestia will send her back to magic kindergarten or even the moon if she fails to turn in her weekly report. Twilight Sparkle spent her whole life with Celestia as a teacher, so she should know Celestia better than anyone other than Luna. So does Twilight Sparkle Having such thoughts stem from her OCD, or would celestia actually do that.

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* In Lesson Zero, Twilight Sparkle thinks Celestia will send her back to magic kindergarten or even the moon if she fails to turn in her weekly report. Twilight Sparkle spent her whole life with Celestia as a teacher, so she should know Celestia better than anyone other than Luna. So does Twilight Sparkle Having having such thoughts stem from her OCD, or would celestia Celestia actually do that.

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* The Canterlot Guards are shown to be weak, poorly trained, under-equipped, and ''laughably'' stupid, to the point that they've basically failed in every single thing they've ever even attempted to do. Their captain, while heroic and a powerful BarrierWarrior, isn't much better. Surely Princess Celestia can't be so stupid that she thinks they're doing a good job, and while one could argue many threats that take them out are simply too powerful, you'd think they'd be either trained or empowered to deal with such threats since their existence is common knowledge. Does this mean they merely exist to create an illusion of security to the citizens, or worse, exist as CannonFodder to slow down threats until they can be dealt with by the real power forces such as the Mane Six or the Princesses? Let's hope the poor schmucks have a decent Life Insurance package for their widows and orphans...

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* The Canterlot Royal Guards are shown to be weak, poorly trained, under-equipped, and ''laughably'' stupid, to the point that they've basically failed in every single thing they've ever even attempted to do. Their captain, while heroic and a powerful BarrierWarrior, isn't much better. Surely Princess Celestia can't be so stupid that she thinks they're doing a good job, and while one could argue many threats that take them out are simply too powerful, you'd think they'd be either trained or empowered to deal with such threats since their existence is common knowledge. Does this mean they merely exist to create an illusion of security to the citizens, or worse, exist as CannonFodder to slow down threats until they can be dealt with by the real power forces such as the Mane Six or the Princesses? Let's hope the poor schmucks have a decent Life Insurance package for their widows and orphans...



** To add weight to the [[PropagandaMachine illusion of safety]] theory, Equestria really ''isn't'' a peaceful place at all once you take an objective look at how frequently they come under attack by even generic monsters, to the point that the citizens are so desensitized to the threat they say things like "Let's get to the salon before the monster destroys it", and how the guards are never actually seen dealing with monster attacks that should be within their pay grade. It really makes it seem like they actually ''are'' just meant to make it appear like there is some semblance of security and safety in their world, and all the times they've attempted to fight were done to save face since they were put on the spot like Trixie attempting to fight the Ursa.



* The way the sheep, cows, and other farm animals are treated is highly suggestive of slavery or that they have much lower social status than the ponies. They are treated the same as in our world; kept behind fences (with no houses to live in), sheered, milked, herded, etc., but have been shown to be just as intelligent and capable of speech as the ponies are. Either intentional dark subtext, or the writers just very badly didn't bother to think this one through.

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* The way the sheep, cows, and other farm animals are treated is highly suggestive of slavery or that they have much lower social status than the ponies. They are treated the same as in our world; kept behind fences (with no houses to live in), sheered, milked, herded, etc., but have been shown to be just as intelligent and capable of speech as the ponies are. Even Spike's treatment in earlier seasons was uncomfortably reminiscent of a [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_slave House Slave]], being subservient to Twilight Sparkle but clearly being treated worse than the ponies. Either intentional dark subtext, subtext or the writers just very badly didn't bother to think this one through.through, but either way they apparently realized it was too dark or that they hadn't thought it through as the farm animals were quietly put out of focus and the show became more insistent on how Spike was ''family'' to Twilight as the seasons went on.

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** So, are they independent nation like people of Somnambula or those China ponies from where two Pillars had come? This new facts can either support the version of Celestia annexing everything, or deny it if at some point of about a century before Nightmare Moon and Somra's banishment Crystal Empire joined Equestria willingly.

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** So, are they independent nation like people of Somnambula or those China ponies from where two Pillars had come? This new facts can either support the version of Celestia annexing everything, or deny it if at some point of about a century before Nightmare Moon and Somra's Sombra's banishment Crystal Empire joined Equestria willingly.


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* Equestria doesn't seem to have any form of legal system outside of "whatever any one of the princesses felt like doing at the time" with no form of limitations or liabilities. It seems they're free to do whatever they feel like doing on a whim to a suspect or criminal, are able to pardon and erase from records the crimes of those they favor, and are free to indefinitely incarcerate or use capital punishment on those they don't. This isn't limited by age or circumstance of the criminal or the severity of their crimes, those taken into custody aren't entitled to any form of trial or legal representation, those harmed by the actions of criminals aren't entitled to closure or justice or compensation (either morally or financially), and the ''least'' severe form of prison they have is caged in a cave without age or gender separation without even the most basic forms of bedding, clothing, hygienic facilities, or any form of care whatsoever. This paints an utterly ''horrifying'' picture of just how few basic "human" (equine?) rights the citizens actually have, as it's in line with the way a dystopian dictator would treat their people, and is particularly scary given that the princesses ''frequently'' make emotionally charged decisions and/or have lapses of judgement when deciding what to do. Even when holding onto the MST3KMantra as tightly as possible it is genuinely frightening to sit down and take an objective look at Equestria's legal system.
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* The fact that Spike has a crush on Rarity, and is great friends with all of the other ponies is wonderful, until you realize that dragons have a much longer lifespan than the average pony. Princess Celestia and Princess Luna are basically {{Physical God}}desses so they're exceptions, but eventually [[SoleSurvivor Spike will probably outlive all of his friends.]] The fact that he's already younger than them supports this theory even more. There's a story called ''GrowingUp'' [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7441479/1/Growing_Up seen here]] that explains this perfectly. It's beautifully written, but be warned, as it's a massive TearJerker.

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* The fact that Spike has a crush on Rarity, and is great friends with all of the other ponies is wonderful, until you realize that dragons have a much longer lifespan than the average pony. Princess Celestia and Princess Luna are basically {{Physical God}}desses so they're exceptions, but eventually [[SoleSurvivor Spike will probably outlive all of his friends.]] The fact that he's already younger than them supports this theory even more. There's a story called ''GrowingUp'' ''Growing Up'' [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7441479/1/Growing_Up seen here]] that explains this perfectly. It's beautifully written, but be warned, as it's a massive TearJerker.
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* The fact that Spike has a crush on Rarity, and is great friends with all of the other ponies is wonderful, until you realize that dragons have a much longer lifespan than the average pony. Princess Celestia and Princess Luna are basically {{Physical God}}desses so they're exceptions, but eventually [[SoleSurvivor Spike will probably outlive all of his friends.]] The fact that he's already younger than them supports this theory even more. There's a story called ''Fanfic/GrowingUp'' [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7441479/1/Growing_Up seen here]] that explains this perfectly. It's beautifully written, but be warned, as it's a massive TearJerker.

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* The fact that Spike has a crush on Rarity, and is great friends with all of the other ponies is wonderful, until you realize that dragons have a much longer lifespan than the average pony. Princess Celestia and Princess Luna are basically {{Physical God}}desses so they're exceptions, but eventually [[SoleSurvivor Spike will probably outlive all of his friends.]] The fact that he's already younger than them supports this theory even more. There's a story called ''Fanfic/GrowingUp'' ''GrowingUp'' [[http://www.fanfiction.net/s/7441479/1/Growing_Up seen here]] that explains this perfectly. It's beautifully written, but be warned, as it's a massive TearJerker.
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* The way the sheep, cows, and other farm animals are treated is highly suggestive of slavery or that they have much lower social status than the ponies. They are treated the same as in our world; kept behind fences (with no houses to live in), sheered, milked, herded, etc., but have been shown to be just as intelligent and capable of speech as the ponies are. Either intentional dark subtext, or the writers just very badly didn't bother to think this one through.

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* Upon the return of the Crystal Empire, Cadence, Celestia's adopted niece, became its ruler. The existence of a monarch, and the empire's isolated location, plus Celestia's description heavily implies that the Empire is a sovereign nation. In that case, Equestria essentially annexed an independent nation.

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** At some point of Roman history the word "Empire" meant something like "the land under the rule", and the Crystal Empire has a lot of AncientGrome in its appearance, so the name can be related to "rule" of the Crystal Heart.
* Upon the return of the Crystal Empire, Cadence, Celestia's adopted niece, became its ruler. The existence of a monarch, and the empire's isolated location, plus Celestia's description heavily implies that the Empire is a sovereign nation. In that case, Equestria essentially annexed an independent nation.
** So, are they independent nation like people of Somnambula or those China ponies from where two Pillars had come? This new facts can either support the version of Celestia annexing everything, or deny it if at some point of about a century before Nightmare Moon and Somra's banishment Crystal Empire joined Equestria willingly.
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** Real life horses (and deer, and birds, and almost everything else) are opportunistic carnivores, meaning that they eat meat when and if they can get it. If the same holds for ponies, they probably don't have any problem keeping animals that eat meat, if not eating it themselves. Neither chickens nor fish seem to be sapient, and those are the two most common cat food bases.
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* In lesson zero, twilight sparkle thinks celestia will send her back to magic kindergarten or even the moon if she fails to turn in her weekly report. Twilight sparkle spent her whole life with celestia as a teacher, so she should know celestia better than anyone other than luna. So does twilight sparkle having such thoughts stem from her OCD, or would celestia actually do that.
** On top of that, princess celestia has sent someone to the moon before... Nightmare moon! This means that twilight genuinely believes that princess celestia would give her own student the same treatment as a world-destroying tyrant.
Even if that's just her OCD talking, it's still very unsettling

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* In lesson zero, twilight sparkle Lesson Zero, Twilight Sparkle thinks celestia Celestia will send her back to magic kindergarten or even the moon if she fails to turn in her weekly report. Twilight sparkle Sparkle spent her whole life with celestia Celestia as a teacher, so she should know celestia Celestia better than anyone other than luna. Luna. So does twilight sparkle having Twilight Sparkle Having such thoughts stem from her OCD, or would celestia actually do that.
** On top of that, princess celestia Princess Celestia has sent someone to the moon before... Nightmare moon! Moon! This means that twilight Twilight genuinely believes that princess celestia Princess Celestia would give her own student the same treatment as a world-destroying tyrant.
** Even if that's just her OCD talking, it's still very unsettling
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* Cadence, Celestia and Luna are incapacitated with regular intervals. Fine and dandy for Cadence, but Celestia and Luna are essentially physical gods over Night and Day. If they were incapacitated, and there was no one of equal or greater power to take over their duties, eternal night, eternal day or something in between would follow shortly. The death of all life would likely be avoided, since the world seems to operate fine in the NMM timeline (though that may be Luna's magic), but it's still frightening. Especially considering that several deadly monsters in Equestria are nocturnal.
* The name of the Crystal Empire implies that it, at least at some point, controlled a far larger land area in the past, potentially large parts of modern Equestria, or even colonies.
* Upon the return of the Crystal Empire, Cadence, Celestia's adopted niece, became its ruler. The existence of a monarch, and the empire's isolated location, plus Celestia's description heavily implies that the Empire is a sovereign nation. In that case, Equestria essentially annexed an independent nation.
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* In lesson zero, twilight sparkle thinks celestia will send her back to magic kindergarten or even the moon if she fails to turn in her weekly report. Twilight sparkle spent her whole life with celestia as a teacher, so she should know celestia better than anyone other than luna. So does twilight sparkle having such thoughts stem from her OCD, or would celestia actually do that.
** On top of that, princess celestia has sent someone to the moon before... Nightmare moon! This means that twilight genuinely believes that princess celestia would give her own student the same treatment as a world-destroying tyrant.
Even if that's just her OCD talking, it's still very unsettling

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