History Fridge / TsubasaReservoirChronicle

* In RGVeda it was established that a ThirdEye represents "sins even a demon wouldn't commit", so I was really confused when the Ashura statue in the country of Shara had one. But just now I remembered that he wished for Yasha to come back from the dead. Perhaps in the original timeline of that world (before Syaoran and co. mucked it up), this wish led him to doing something that messed with the natural order of things, hence the extra eye.

* The reason FWR found Fai and Yuui was because [[spoiler: real!Fai wished for death in the tower]] and that FWR fufilled his wish while at the same time making it seem like they really had a choice in the matter when [[spoiler:he asked them who should be the one to die so the other could live.]]
* FridgeBrilliance: Mokona's [[TranslatorMicrobes powers]] are the only thing that allows the characters from different worlds to communicate with each other, and only work when they're all near him. So why, when they split up in Outo country can they still talk to each other, and the other people in Outo? [[spoiler:Why of course, because Outo is actually a RPG made to be played be people from different worlds and has it's own translation circuit]]

**** Doesn't this only apply if we assume that [[spoiler:Tsubasa obtained all the memories of C!Sakura!mom's entire existence? I just assumed it was only of original Clone!Sakura up until the point where she died. Did it state whether or not she inherited Reincarnated mom's memories? If you mean when she absorbed the last feather, I felt like that was more like absorbing her essence/soul type thing like with [[KingdomHearts Kari/Nami]] rather than obtaining her full set of memories. I cannot imagine how squicky it would be only to see your clone's travels, and than there new life as your crushes mom, than remembering several years of being trapped/frozen for years (abit willingly), and than being freed only to get adsorbed (ded pretty much) shortly after before getting to greet your son and original self.]]

** Tsubasa Li now has [[spoiler: the memory of sending himself to another dimension to fall in love with his moms original self because his wife had a dream]]
** And Tsubasa Sakura has all the [[spoiler: memories of C!Sakura which means she has all the memories of what it is to be Syaoran's mom. But never mind she was seeing everything through her clone's eyes ''the whole time'']], even while FrozenInTime.

*** Wait a minute, then that would mean that Tsubasa!Sakura and Tsubasa!Syaoran would remember Tsubasa!Syaoran's, ahem, conception. That is, that one special night between his parents, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much... yeah, awkward to the max.

** Actually, this wouldn't occur at all, because [[spoiler:by the time he conceived Tsubasa, C!Tsubasa is longer a clone of him. He's now his clones reincarnation, but actually now inhabits the body of an CCS!Syaoran making him alt of him, with lineage from Clow Reed and a different origin now. And Presumably different genetics with it. Assuming that was truly the case however it need not be complicated, as Syaoran only had Tsubasa Li once, ontologically speaking. One inception, one copulation, one scramble of genetics, that was it. Just because his DNA would find itself back into the clone who would birth him doesn't mean I'd be necessarily selfcest. Like in a certain series [[homestuck, Syaoran is a paradox copy of Tsubasa who in turn also happens to be his son.... in this given scenario. It's a simple stable time-loop; Syaoran's existence is facilitated by Tsubasa's and vice-versa, (With Sakura's somewhere mixed in) looking into it deeper is just obfuscating the matter. But that's all completely irrelevant, since Syaoran being reincarnated into Alt!CCS!Syaoran, with the deceased C!Syaoran's soul is what helps make this less relevant of headscratching to think about.

**** Doesn't this only apply if we assume that [[spoiler:Tsubasaa obtained all the memories of C!Sakura!mom's entire existence? I just assumed it was only of original Clone!Sakura up until the point where she died. Did it state whether or not she inherited Reincarnated mom's memories? If you mean when she absorbed the last feather, I felt like that was more like absorbing her essence/soul type thing like with [[KingdomHearts Kari/Nami]] rather than obtaining her full set of memories. I cannot imagine how squicky it would be only to see your clone's travels, and than there new life as your crushes mom, than remembering several years of being trapped/frozen for years (abit willingly), and than being freed only to get adsorbed (ded pretty much) shortly after before getting to greet your son and original self.]]

** Actually, this wouldn't occur at all, because [[spoiler:C!Tsubasa is no longer a clone of Tsubasa Li. He's his clones reincarnation, but actually now inhabits a body of an CCS!Syaoran making him alt of him rather than a close of Tsubasa, with lineage from Clow Reed and a different origin now. And Presumably different genetics with it. Assuming that was truly the case however it need not be the case, as Syaoran only had Tsubasa Li once. One inception, one copulation, one scramble of genetics, that was it. Just because his DNA would find itself back into the clone who would birth him doesn't mean I'd be necessarily selfcest. Like a certain [[Homestuck ectobiological process]] Syaoran is a paradox copy of Tsubasa and also like his son, and vice versa.... in that given scenerio. Him being reincarnated into Alt!CCS!Syaoran, with CSS!Syaoran's body and C!Syaoran's soul is what helps make this less relevant of headscratching to think about.]]

**** Doesn't this only apply if we assume that [[Spoiler:Tsubasa Sakura obtained all the memories of C!Sakura mom entire existence? I just assumed it was only of original Clone!Sakura up until the point when she died. Did it state whether or not she inherited Reincarnated mom's memories? If you mean when she absorbed the last feather, I felt like that was more like absorbing her essence/soul type thing like with Kari/Nami rather than obtaining her full set of memories. I cannot imagine how squicky it would be only to see your original clone's travels, but there new life as your love interest mom, than remembering several years of being trapped/frozen (abit willingly), having to age regress again back to resembling yourself, and than being freed only to get adsorbed (ded pretty much) shortly after before getting to greet your son and original self.]]

** Whilst I'm not sure he's a clone of Syaoran, he does follow the aesthetic pattern of most clones we see: [[RavenHairIvorySkin pale with black hair]].

* This is not just FridgeHorror, Creator/{{CLAMP}}'s upgraded to AscendedFridgeHorror = {{Squick}}.
** [[FridgeHorror Fridge]] {{Squick}} - Everyone's related in this TangledFamilyTree.
** Tsubasa Li now has [[spoiler: the memory of sending himself to another dimension to fall in love with his moms original self because his wife had a dream]]
** And Tsubasa Sakura has all the [[spoiler: memories of C!Sakura which means she has all the memories of what it is to be Syaoran's mom. But never mind she was seeing everything through her clone's eyes ''the whole time'']], even while FrozenInTime.
*** Wait a minute, then that would mean that Tsubasa!Sakura and Tsubasa!Syaoran would remember Tsubasa!Syaoran's, ahem, conception. That is, that one special night between his parents, when a mommy and a daddy love each other very much... yeah, awkward to the max.
** Now the clones and the originals have become one. [[AllPsychologyIsFreudian Which means...]] There are quite a lot of reasons why R!Syaoran wants them back alive.
** All along, the originals have been seeing (and experiencing and therefore re-living) each other through the clones' eyes.
* When I first read through ''TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', I figured the second promise [[spoiler:Kurogane]] talks about in Chapter 134 is just [[spoiler:to stay with [[TrueCompanions the gang]] and help find Cloney, blah blah blah]]. It was only much later that I realized that's not it at all; the new promise is really [[spoiler:to take responsibility for Fay's life and [[HoYay stay by his side]] to give him the blood he needs to survive. (Notice he only confirms that he would stay with the group after Fay says he will.) After Kurogane says this, Sakura and Mokona give him almost questioning looks, but Fay looks down sadly — he understands exactly what Kurogane is talking about]].
** In the early days of the manga, I kept wondering why [[TheDragon Kyle Rodart]] looked so much like [[{{xxxholic}} Watanuki]]. Much later, I realized that it's intentional, [[spoiler: Kyle is a clone of Syaoran, just like Watanuki]].

* In RGVeda it was established that a ThirdEye represents "sins even a demon wouldn't commit", so i was really confused when the Ashura statue in the country of Shara had one. But just now i remembered that the Ashura in Shura wished for Yasha to come back from the dead. Perhaps in the original timeline of that world (before Syaoran and co. mucked it up), Ashura did something that messed with the natural order of things, hence the extra eye.
* The reason FWR found Fai and Yuui was because [[spoiler: real!Fai wished for death in the tower]] and that FWR fufilled his wish while at the same timemaking it seem like they really had a choice in the matter when [[spoiler:he asked them who should be the one to die so the other could live.]]
* [[spoiler:In Fai's backstory, it says that the elder prince looked forward to their birth. It also says that the twins' mother and father died, but nothing about their brother. Assuming a direct hereditary line of descent, that means that the ruler who imprisoned Yuui and Fai was their own older brother.]]
** [[spoiler: Fai and Yui's father was the youngest brother of the 'elder prince']]
* Mokona's [[TranslatorMicrobes powers]] are the only thing that allows the characters from different worlds to communicate with each other, and only work when they're all near him. So why, when they split up in Outo country can they still talk to each other, and the other people in Outo? [[spoiler:Why of course, because Outo is actually a RPG made to be played be people from different worlds and has it's own translation circuit]]

** [[spoiler: Fai and Yui's father was the youngest brother of the 'elder prince']]

* [[spoiler:In Fai's backstory, it says that the elder prince looked forward to their birth. It also says that the twins' mother and father died, but nothing about their brother. Assuming a direct hereditary line of descent, that means that the ruler who imprisoned Yuui and Fai was their own older brother.]]

* This is not just FridgeHorror, {{CLAMP}}'s upgraded to AscendedFridgeHorror = {{Squick}}.

* When I first read through ''TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', I figured the second promise [[spoiler:Kurogane]] talks about in Chapter 134 is just [[spoiler:to stay with [[{{Nakama}} the gang]] and help find Cloney, blah blah blah]]. It was only much later that I realized that's not it at all; the new promise is really [[spoiler:to take responsibility for Fay's life and [[HoYay stay by his side]] to give him the blood he needs to survive. (Notice he only confirms that he would stay with the group after Fay says he will.) After Kurogane says this, Sakura and Mokona give him almost questioning looks, but Fay looks down sadly — he understands exactly what Kurogane is talking about]].

* The reason FWR found Fai and Yuui was because [[spoiler: real!Fai wished for death in the tower]] and that FWR fufilled his wish while at the same timemaking it seem like they really had a choice in the matter when [[spoiler:he asked them who should be the one to die so the other could live.]]

* The reason FWR found Fai and Yuui was because [[spoiler: real!Fai wished for death in the tower]] and that FWR fufilled his wish while at the same timemaking it seem like they really had a choice in the matter when [[he asked them who should be the one to die so the other could live.]]

* In RGVeda it was established that a ThirdEye represents "sins even a demon wouldn't commit", so i was really confused when the Ashura statue in the country of Shara had one. But just now i remembered that the Ashura in Shura wished for Yasha to come back from the dead. Perhaps in the original timeline of that world (before Syaoran and co. mucked it up), Ashura did something that messed with the natural order of things, hence the extra eye.

** Oh we've had enough MindScrew already. It's much simpler to consider that [[YouFailBilogyForever Clamp failed biology forever.]] See MyOwnGrampa.

** Oh we've had enough MindScrew already. It's much simpler to consider that [[YouFailBilogyForever Clamp failed biology forever.]] See MyOwnGrampa.

* When I first read through ''TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', I figured the second promise [[spoiler:Kurogane]] talks about in Chapter 134 is just [[spoiler:to stay with [[{{Nakama}} the gang]] and help find Cloney, blah blah blah]]. It was only much later that I realized that's not it at all; the new promise is really [[spoiler:to take responsibility for Fay's life and [[HoYay stay by his side]] to give him the blood he needs to survive. (Notice he only confirms that he would stay with the group after Fay says he will.) After Kurogane says this, Sakura and Mokona give him almost questioning looks, but Fay looks down sadly — he understands exactly what Kurogane is talking about]].
** In the early days of the manga, I kept wondering why [[TheDragon Kyle Rodart]] looked so much like [[{{xxxholic}} Watanuki]]. Much later, I realized that it's intentional, [[spoiler: Kyle is a clone of Syaoran, just like Watanuki]].
* [[FridgeHorror Fridge]] {{Squick}} - Everyone's related in this TangledFamilyTree.

** Oh we had enough MindScrew already. It's much simpler to consider that [[YouFailBilogyForever Clamp failed biology forever.]] See MyOwnGrampa.

* When I first read through ''TsubasaReservoirChronicle'', I figured the second promise [[spoiler:Kurogane]] talks about in Chapitre 134 is just [[spoiler:to stay with [[{{Nakama}} the gang]] and help find Cloney, blah blah blah]]. It was only much later that I realized that's not it at all; the new promise is really [[spoiler:to take responsibility for Fay's life and [[HoYay stay by his side]] to give him the blood he needs to survive. (Notice he only confirms that he would stay with the group after Fay says he will.) After Kurogane says this, Sakura and Mokona give him almost questioning looks, but Fay looks down sadly — he understands exactly what Kurogane is talking about]].

** And Tsubasa Sakura has all the [[spoiler: memories of C!Sakura which means she has all the memories of what it is to be Syaoran's mom. But never mind she saw everything through her clone's eyes ''the whole time'']].

** Well, since its a loop, there's actually an infinite regression going on here, with each generation changing. [[spoiler: Tsubasa Li's DNA is an infinitely small % Syaoran and an infinitely large % Sakura, since there is a literally infinite chain of /2 Syaoran going on in his ancestry and genome as the genetic loop runs over and over, since each change in his genome to be +x% sakura means the clone is retconned to also have that genome, passing that Sakura DNA to Tsubasa Li instead of Syaoran DNA. The 50/50 thing applied the first time, the second loop Tsubasa Li was 25% himself and so on. Since it was infinite, he has an infinitely small amount of his own DNA]]. The MindScrew page is over there.

* [[FridgeHorror Fridge]] {{Squick}}, [[spoiler: Tsubasa Li now has the memory of sending himself to another dimension to fall in love with his moms original self because his wife had a dream]]

** Well, since its a loop, there's actually an infinite regression going on here. [[spoiler: Tsubasa Li's DNA is an infinitely small % Syaoran and an infinitely large % Sakura, since there is a literally infinite chain of x2 Sakura and /2 Syaoran going on in his ancestry and genome]]. The MindScrew page is over there.

** Well, since its a loop, there's actually an infinite regression going on here. Tsubasa Li's DNA is an infinitely small % Syaoran and an infinitely large % Sakura, since there is a literally infinite chain of x2 Sakura and /2 Syaoran going on in his ancestry and genome

* Well, after reading up to Ch. 224, this troper realized that [[spoiler: Assuming that the clones of Sakura and Syaoran have the exact same DNA as the originals... 1. C!Syaoran + C!Sakura = Original Syaoran (50% Sakura's DNA, 50% his own DNA) 2. If the original Syaoran and the original Sakura had a kid....he/she'd be 75% Sakura's DNA and 25% Syaoran's DNA... 3. This also means that the original Sakura and Syaoran are related...because Syaoran has 50% of Sakura's (clone) DNA and 4. Because the clone of Syaoran is 100% Syaoran's DNA, then that means that the clone of Syaoran is has 50% from Sakura, and 50% from the original (Because this is the make-up of the original's DNA)]]

* [[FridgeHorror Fridge]] {{Squick}}, [[spoiler: Tsubasa Li now has the memory of sending himself to another dimension to fall in love with his moms original self because his wife had a dream]]

** In the early days of the manga, I kept wondering why [[TheDragon Kyle Rodart]] looked so much like [[{{xxxholic}} Watanuki]]. Much later, I realized that it's intentional, [[spoiler: Kyle is a clone of Syaoran, just like Watanuki]].