History Fridge / TheProducers

* Convicted criminals (and, well, prison wardens) are not the same as fawning and swooning old ladies. Not even the same as IRS. Chances are our protagonists won't live to see the end of their prison sentences (and that is irrespective of whether the show is successful or not).ObfuscatingStupidity.

* Ulla is essentially running the same con as Max does with the old ladies. Like him, she uses her sexuality to appeal to the loneliness of someone lonely and many years her senior. This raises the question of whether she is genuinely TheDitz or merely ObfuscatingStupidity.

* Ulla is essentially running the same con as Max does with the old ladies. Like him, she uses her sexuality to appeal to the loneliness of someone lonely and many years her senior. This raises the question of whether she is genuinely TheDitz or merely ObfuscatingStupidity.
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* Convicted criminals (and, well, prison wardens) are not the same as fawning and swooning old ladies. Not even the same as IRS. Chances are our protagonists won't live to see the end of their prison sentences (and that is irrespective of whether the show is successful or not).

* Franz's play is a celebration of Nazism...that is extraordinarily bad and can only be enjoyed if performed through a satirical lens. Nazism itself was an ideology that was terrible at creative endeavors. In RealLife, for all of his oratory skills, Hitler's artistic endeavors were considered mediocre at ''best'': he couldn't get into art school, his [[Literature/MeinKampf magnum opus]] is considered lousy in both morals and as a form of literature, and his big architectural plans for Berlin are considered gaudy and unfeasible. And aside from a few movies, most of the propaganda films produced by Nazi Germany were terrible.

* FridgeHorror: Convicted criminals (and, well, prison wardens) are not the same as fawning and swooning old ladies. Not even the same as IRS. Chances are our protagonists won't live to see the end of their prison sentences (and that is irrespective of whether the show is successful or not).

* Ulla is essentially running the same con as Max does with the old ladies. Like him, she uses her sexuality to appeal to the loneliness of someone lonely and many years her senior. This raises the question of whether she is genuinely TheDitz or merely ObfuscatingStupidity.

* In the 2005 movie, Franz tells Bialystock and Bloom that Hitler's middle name was "Elizabeth", and that "the Fuhrer was descended from a long line of English queens." Later on we meet Roger [=DeBris=], whose middle name is ALSO Elizabeth, and who is [[StealthPun an English queen.]] Apparently, some of Hitler's distant relatives are into musical theater?

* In the 2005 movie, Franz tells Bialystock and Bloom that Hitler's middle name was "Elizabeth", and that the Fuhrer was descended from a long line of English queens." Later on we meet Roger [=DeBris=], whose middle name is ALSO Elizabeth, and who is [[StealthPun an English queen.]] Apparently, some of Hitler's distant relatives are into musical theater?

* In the 2005 movie, Franz tells Bialystock and Bloom that Hitler's middle name was "Elizabeth", and that "the Fuhrer was descended from a long line of English queens." Later on we meet Roger [=DeBris=], whose middle name is ALSO Elizabeth, and who is [[StealthPun an English queen.]] Apparently, some of Hitler's distant relatives are into musical theater?

* {{FridgeLogic}}/{{FridgeBrilliance}}: In the 2005 movie, Franz tells Bialystock and Bloom that Hitler's middle name was "Elizabeth", and that "the Fuhrer was descended from a long line of English queens." Later on we meet Roger [=DeBris=], whose middle name is ALSO Elizabeth, and who is [[StealthPun an English queen.]] Apparently, some of Hitler's distant relatives are into musical theater?

* FridgeLogic: Roger [=DeBris=] is outrageously CampGay, with the tackiest sensibilities and most ridiculous mannerisms imaginable -- but ''he isn't a bad director.'' He has a clear vision, works hard, he's never seen losing control of the rehearsal process, and he manages to create a [[SugarWiki/VisualEffectsOfAwesome visually arresting]] (seriously, check out that choreography!), critically adored Broadway smash out of the worst material that Bialystock and Bloom could find. Any veteran actor will tell you there are a few dozen worse things a director could be than a laughably flamboyant BunnyEarsLawyer (a ControlFreak, TheGhost, or a SmallNameBigEgo MilesGloriosus, to name but a few)-- so, in effect, the producers' plan failed because they didn't hire "the worst director in New York".
** It becomes FridgeBrilliance when you note that Roger [=DeBris=] is hired because he's known for doing romantic comedies without substance. They could have hired a no-talent hack but chose someone they considered wholly inappropriate for the material. What, instead, they got was a chance for Roger to prove himself by turning the hyper-serious play into a romantic comedy. One daring enough to get serious buzz. So they gave him a romantic comedy...with substance. Doh!

* GoneHorriblyRight: Leo and Max's goal was to produce a gigantic flop, right? In the stage musical and 2005 film, Max tries to take advantage of the theater belief that saying "good luck" will cause disaster for the show. However, Springtime for Hitler is taken as a satirical masterpiece and becomes a sellout, meaning that bad luck did happen - to ''them.''
* Why do the men, Leo in particular, suddenly become a lot more willing to take the Siegfried Oath after Franz claims Hitler's middle name was Elizabeth? Because, of course, it ''wasn't'' Elizabeth -- by swearing to never mock Adolf ''Elizabeth'' Hitler, they're technically promising to never mock a person that never existed, and are free to mock the ''actual'' Hitler as much as they want. Sort of like a LyingFingerCross and/or LoopholeAbuse. (Not that that makes a difference to Franz, of course.)

** It becomes FridgeBrilliance when you note that Roger Debris is hired because he's known for doing romantic comedies without substance. They could have hired a no-talent hack but chose someone they considered wholly inappropriate for the material. What, instead, they got was a chance for Roger to prove himself by turning the hyper-serious play into a romantic comedy. One daring enough to get serious buzz. So they gave him a romantic comedy...with substance. Doh!

** DeBris is also off-putting in person, alienating Leo moments after meeting him and spending more time preening and "punning" than in considering whether to do the play. Bialystock is expecting him to be a disaster because [[ItsAllAboutMe DeBris is so self-centered]], and doesn't consider that DeBris might actually care about putting on a show.

* FridgeLogic: Roger [=DeBris=] is outrageously CampGay, with the tackiest sensibilities and most ridiculous mannerisms imaginable -- but ''he isn't a bad director.'' He has a clear vision, works hard, he's never seen losing control of the rehearsal process, and he manages to create a [[VisualEffectsOfAwesome visually arresting]] (seriously, check out that choreography!), critically adored Broadway smash out of the worst material that Bialystock and Bloom could find. Any veteran actor will tell you there are a few dozen worse things a director could be than a laughably flamboyant BunnyEarsLawyer (a ControlFreak, TheGhost, or a SmallNameBigEgo MilesGloriosus, to name but a few)-- so, in effect, the producers' plan failed because they didn't hire "the worst director in New York".

* Why do the men, Leo in particular, suddenly become a lot more willing to take the Siegfried Oath after Franz claims Hitler's middle name was Elizabeth? Because, of course, it ''wasn't'' Elizabeth -- by swearing to never mock Adolf ''Elizabeth'' Hitler, they're technically promising to never mock a person that never existed, and are free to mock the ''actual'' Hitler as much as they want. Sort of like a LyingFingerCross and/or LoopholeAbuse. (Not that that makes a difference to Franz, of course.)

* Why do the men, Leo in particular, suddenly become a lot more willing to take the Siegfried Oath after Franz claims Hitler's middle name was Elizabeth? Because, of course, it ''wasn't'' Elizabeth -- by swearing to never mock Adolf ''Elizabeth'' Hitler, they're technically promising to mock a person that never existed, and are free to mock the ''actual'' Hitler as much as they want. Sort of like a LyingFingerCross and/or LoopholeAbuse. (Not that that makes a difference to Franz, of course.)

* GoneHorriblyRight: Leo and Max's goal was to produce a gigantic flop, right? In the stage musical and 2005 film, Max tries to take advantage of the theater belief that saying "good luck" will cause disaster for the show. However, Springtime for Hitler is taken as a satirical masterpiece and becomes a sellout, meaning that bad luck did happen - to ''them.''

* FridgeLogic: Roger DeBris is outrageously CampGay, with the tackiest sensibilities and most ridiculous mannerisms imaginable -- but ''he isn't a bad director.'' He has a clear vision, works hard, he's never seen losing control of the rehearsal process, and he manages to create a [[VisualEffectsOfAwesome visually arresting]] (seriously, check out that choreography!), critically adored Broadway smash out of the worst material that Bialystock and Bloom could find. Any veteran actor will tell you there are a few dozen worse things a director could be than a laughably flamboyant BunnyEarsLawyer (a ControlFreak, TheGhost, or a SmallNameBigEgo MilesGloriosus, to name but a few)-- so, in effect, the producers' plan failed because they didn't hire "the worst director in New York".

* FridgeLogic: Roger DeBris is outrageously CampGay, with the tackiest sensibilities and most ridiculous mannerisms imaginable-- but ''he isn't a bad director.'' He has a clear vision, works hard, he's never seen losing control of the rehearsal process, and he manages to create a [[VisualEffectsOfAwesome visually arresting]] (seriously, check out that choreography!), critically adored Broadway smash out of the worst material that Bialystock and Bloom could find. Any veteran actor will tell you there are a few dozen worse things a director could be than a laughably flamboyant BunnyEarsLawyer (a ControlFreak, TheGhost, or a SmallNameBigEgo MilesGloriosus, to name but a few)-- so, in effect, the producers' plan failed because they didn't hire "the worst director in New York".

* GoneHorriblyRight: Leo and Max's goal was to produce a gigantic flop, right? In the stage musical and 2005 film, Max tries to take advantage of the theater belief that saying "good luck" will cause disaster for the show. However, Springtime for Hitler is taken as a satirical masterpiece and becomes a sellout, meaning that bad luck did happen - to ''them''.

* GoneHorriblyRight: The goal of Leo and Max is to produce a gigantic flop? In the stage musical and 2005, exploiting an ancient show business belift that saying Good Luck will doom the lay, do so, presumably to ensure that the play flop. What happens? The play becomes a mega-hit. In other words, bad luck falled on ''them''.

* GoneHorriblyRight: The goal of Leo and Max is to produce a gigantic flop? In the stage musical and 2005, exploiting an ancient show business belift that saying Good Luck will doom the lay, do so, presumably to ensure that the play flop. What happens? The play becomes a mega-hit.

* {{FridgeLogic}}/{{FridgeBrilliance}}: In the 2005 movie, Franz tells Bialystock and Bloom that Hitler's middle name was "Elizabeth", and that "the Fuhrer was descended from a long line of English queens." Later on we meet Roger DeBris, whose middle name is ALSO Elizabeth, and who is [[StealthPun an English queen.]] Apparently, some of Hitler's distant relatives are into musical theater?

** Added bonus: Hitler was a horrible painter...and Roger is a horrible director. Artistic talent is not this family's strong suit, it seems.

* {{FridgeLogic}}/{{FridgeBrilliance}}: In the 2005 movie, Franz tells Bialystock and Bloom that Hitler's middle name was "Elizabeth", and that "the Fuhrer was descended from a long line of English queens." Later on we meet Roger DeBris, whose middle name is ALSO Elizabeth, and who is [[StealthPun an English queen.]] Apparently, some of Hitler's distant relatives are into musical theater?