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!!FridgeLogic
* Gurgi, before his [[spoiler:HeroicSacrifice]], says "Gurgi won't let his friend die! Taran has many friends. Gurgi has no friends." But you just referred to Taran as your friend...
** FridgeSadness: Gurgi is well aware that Taran doesn't think too highly of him (to put it mildly), and yet he's still the closest thing to a friend Gurgi has.
** Friendship isn't entirely mutual; one person may consider another a friend while the other doesn't think that much of them. [[AliceAndBob Alice can be Bob's friend]] without Bob being Alice's. Gurgi is just showing awareness of this paradox.
** And even if Taran ''did'' like Gurgi at all, maybe he just meant "no ''other'' friends".
** Gurgi's grammar is weird. Possibly he meant to be speaking in the future tense, as in "If Taran jumps, Gurgi ''will have'' no friends."
* So, the witches state that they can only give up the Cauldron if given something in trade. Gurgi offers his apple core, which one of the witches takes. So shouldn't that mean that they get the Cauldron without having to surrender the sword since their offer was accepted?
** It was never made official: the bargain as it played out was only enacted once the lead witch closed the deal herself. The other witch really just grabs the core out of Gurgi's hands and chomps on it in a single bite--even if she had waited, it wouldn't have been much of a fair trade.
* According to the witches, Gurgi's sacrifice has destroyed the Cauldron's power to raise the dead. It's powerless now except for its innate indestructibility, but the witches are still quite eager to take it back. Either they were lying about it losing its powers, or they grossly overpaid (it's implied bringing Gurgi back to life was quite an effort), or they were keeping up an 'evil witch' front while actually cutting poor Gurgi a break.
** Maybe they have a use for an indestructible cauldron even if it's ''not'' an ArtifactOfDoom.
** Well, just because it is now powerless, it doesn't mean if is still can be used (just like the troper above mentioned), but also... Who's to say that the witches COULD try to find a way for the cauldron to regain it's powers, or even neutralizing/removing's Gurgi's "seal" OUT of it, so it can be as how it was at the beggining? (but now with TWO evil souls inside of it instead of just one, of course.)
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** Well, just because it is now powerless, it doesn't mean if is still can be used (just like the troper above mentioned), but also... Who's to say that the witches COULD try to find a way for the cauldron to regain it's powers, or even neutralizing/removing's Gurgi's "seal" OUT of it, so it can be as how it was at the beggining? (but now with TWO evil souls inside of it instead of just one, of course.)
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** More like "Fridge Sadness". Gurgi is well aware that Taran doesn't think too highly of him (to put it mildly), and yet he's still the closest thing to a friend Gurgi has.

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** More like "Fridge Sadness". FridgeSadness: Gurgi is well aware that Taran doesn't think too highly of him (to put it mildly), and yet he's still the closest thing to a friend Gurgi has.
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** Maybe they have a use for an indestructible cauldron even if it's ''not'' an ArtifactOfDoom.

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** Maybe they have a use for an indestructible cauldron even if it's ''not'' an ArtifactOfDoom.ArtifactOfDoom.
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** Gurgi's grammar is weird. Possibly he meant to be speaking in the future tense, as in "If Taran jumps, Gurgi ''will have'' no friends."
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* According to the witches, Gurgi's sacrifice has destroyed the Cauldron's power to raise the dead. It's powerless now except for its innate indestructibility, but the witches are still quite eager to take it back. Either they were lying about it losing its powers, or they grossly overpaid (it's implied bringing Gurgi back to life was quite an effort), or they were keeping up an 'evil witch' front while actually cutting poor Gurgi a break.

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* According to the witches, Gurgi's sacrifice has destroyed the Cauldron's power to raise the dead. It's powerless now except for its innate indestructibility, but the witches are still quite eager to take it back. Either they were lying about it losing its powers, or they grossly overpaid (it's implied bringing Gurgi back to life was quite an effort), or they were keeping up an 'evil witch' front while actually cutting poor Gurgi a break.break.
** Maybe they have a use for an indestructible cauldron even if it's ''not'' an ArtifactOfDoom.
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The example was not Fridge Brilliance, and also can be seen as just an overthinking of the Horned King's goal even if it were more accurately dubbed Fridge Logic.


* About the Horned King's goals. In his introductory monologue, he openly states, talking to the skeletons he plans to reanimate: "Then you will worship me! Me... Oh, my soldiers. How long I have thirsted to be a god among mortal men." Right? His plan, in a nutshell, is to create an immortal army of undead skeleton warriors to kill everybody in the world and be forever worshipped as a god by his people of undeads. Right? Then his plan has got a FatalFlaw from the beginning and the Horned King would never have been happy: his wish is to be "a god among mortal men", but he plans to replace all mortal men with his… immortal soldiers. He obviously was too mad to think things all the way through…
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* About the Horned King's goals. In his introductory monologue he openly states, talking to the skeletons he plans to reanimate: "Then you will worship me! Me... Oh, my soldiers. How long I have thirsted to be a god among mortal men." Right ? His plan in a nutshell is to create an immortal army of undead skeleton warriors to kill everybody in the world, and be forever worshipped as a god by his people of undeads. Right ? Then his plan has got a FatalFlaw from the beginning and the Horned King would never have been happy: his wish is to be "a god among mortal men", but he plans to replace all mortal men with his… immortal soldiers. He obviously was too mad to think things all the way through…
* During the climax, the Horned King's penultimate line "You… shall satisfy the Cauldron's hunger!" has a weird pause between "you" and "shall". Actually, it's likely the Horned King was going to insult Taran (YouFool or other), but had the idea of feeding him to the Cauldron mid-sentence and changed the purpose of the "you".

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* About the Horned King's goals. In his introductory monologue monologue, he openly states, talking to the skeletons he plans to reanimate: "Then you will worship me! Me... Oh, my soldiers. How long I have thirsted to be a god among mortal men." Right ? Right? His plan plan, in a nutshell nutshell, is to create an immortal army of undead skeleton warriors to kill everybody in the world, world and be forever worshipped as a god by his people of undeads. Right ? Right? Then his plan has got a FatalFlaw from the beginning and the Horned King would never have been happy: his wish is to be "a god among mortal men", but he plans to replace all mortal men with his… immortal soldiers. He obviously was too mad to think things all the way through…
* During the climax, the Horned King's penultimate line "You… shall satisfy the Cauldron's hunger!" has a weird pause between "you" and "shall". Actually, it's likely the Horned King was going to insult Taran (YouFool or other), other) but had the idea of feeding him to the Cauldron mid-sentence and changed the purpose of the "you".



* So, the witches state that they can only give up the Cauldron if given something in trade. Gurgi offers his apple core, which one of the witches takes. So shouldn't that mean that they get the Cauldron without having to surrender the sword, since their offer was accepted?

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* So, the witches state that they can only give up the Cauldron if given something in trade. Gurgi offers his apple core, which one of the witches takes. So shouldn't that mean that they get the Cauldron without having to surrender the sword, sword since their offer was accepted?
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** It was never made official: the bargain as it played out was only enacted once the lead witch closed the deal herself. The other witch really just grabs the core out of Gurgi's hands and chomps on it in a single bite--even if she had waited, it wouldn't have been much of a fair trade.
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\n* As discussed on the YMMV page for TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot, many people would have liked to see Taran fight the Horned King with Dyrnwyn. Except that those same people must remember, Taran never considered the idea that he would have to trade the sword for the Cauldron. He only assumed that it was something they could actually find in Morva and was intending to use the sword to destroy the Cauldron.

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* During the climax, the Horned King's penultimate line "You… shall satisfy the Cauldron's hunger!" has a weird pause between "you" and "shall". Actually, it's likely the Horned King was going to insult Taran (YouFool or other), but had the idea of feeding him to the Cauldron mid-sentence and changed the purpose of the "you".


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* About the Horned King's goals. In his introductory monologue he openly states, talking to the skeletons he plans to reanimate: "Then you will worship me! Me... Oh, my soldiers. How long I have thirsted to be a god among mortal men." Right ? His plan in a nutshell is to create an immortal army of undead skeleton warriors to kill everybody in the world, and be forever worshipped as a god by his people of undeads. Right ? Then his plan has got a FatalFlaw from the beginning and the Horned King would never have been happy: his wish is to be "a god among mortal men", but he plans to replace all mortal men with his… immortal soldiers. He obviously was too mad to think things all the way through…
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* So, the witches state that they can only give up the Cauldron if given something in trade. Gurgi offers his apple core, which one of the witches takes. So shouldn't that mean that they get the Cauldron without having to surrender the sword, since their offer was accepted?

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* So, the witches state that they can only give up the Cauldron if given something in trade. Gurgi offers his apple core, which one of the witches takes. So shouldn't that mean that they get the Cauldron without having to surrender the sword, since their offer was accepted?accepted?
* According to the witches, Gurgi's sacrifice has destroyed the Cauldron's power to raise the dead. It's powerless now except for its innate indestructibility, but the witches are still quite eager to take it back. Either they were lying about it losing its powers, or they grossly overpaid (it's implied bringing Gurgi back to life was quite an effort), or they were keeping up an 'evil witch' front while actually cutting poor Gurgi a break.
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*So, the witches state that they can only give up the Cauldron if given something in trade. Gurgi offers his apple core, which one of the witches takes. So shouldn't that mean that they get the Cauldron without having to surrender the sword, since their offer was accepted?

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* FridgeLogic: Gurgi, before his [[spoiler:HeroicSacrifice]], says "Gurgi won't let his friend die! Taran has many friends. Gurgi has no friends." But you just referred to Taran as your friend...

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!!FridgeBrilliance
* FridgeLogic: Taran needs protection to get the lid off of the pot in the beginning, but when Dallben does it, he has no protection. It must have been because of his training under the Witches of Morva.

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Gurgi, before his [[spoiler:HeroicSacrifice]], says "Gurgi won't let his friend die! Taran has many friends. Gurgi has no friends." But you just referred to Taran as your friend...



* FridgeBrilliance: Taran needs protection to get the lid off of the pot in the beginning, but when Dallben does it, he has no protection. It must have been because of his training under the Witches of Morva.
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** And even if Taran ''did'' like Gurgi at all, maybe he just meant "no ''other'' friends".
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** FrigdeBrilliance: Taran needs protection to get the lid off of the pot in the beginning, but when Dallben does it, he has no protection. It must have been because of his training under the Witches of Morva.

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** FrigdeBrilliance: * FridgeBrilliance: Taran needs protection to get the lid off of the pot in the beginning, but when Dallben does it, he has no protection. It must have been because of his training under the Witches of Morva.
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** Friendship isn't entirely mutual; one person may consider another a friend while the other doesn't think that much of them. [[AliceAndBob Alice can be Bob's friend]] without Bob being Alice's. Gurgi is just showing awareness of this paradox.

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** Friendship isn't entirely mutual; one person may consider another a friend while the other doesn't think that much of them. [[AliceAndBob Alice can be Bob's friend]] without Bob being Alice's. Gurgi is just showing awareness of this paradox.paradox.
** FrigdeBrilliance: Taran needs protection to get the lid off of the pot in the beginning, but when Dallben does it, he has no protection. It must have been because of his training under the Witches of Morva.

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* FridgeLogic: Gurgi, before his HeroicSacrifice, says "Gurgi won't let his friend die! Taran has many friends. Gurgi has no friends." But you just referred to Taran as your friend...
** More like "Fridge Sadness". Gurgi is well aware that Taran doesn't think too highly of him (to put it mildly), and yet he's still the closest thing to a friend Gurgi has.

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* FridgeLogic: Gurgi, before his HeroicSacrifice, [[spoiler:HeroicSacrifice]], says "Gurgi won't let his friend die! Taran has many friends. Gurgi has no friends." But you just referred to Taran as your friend...
** More like "Fridge Sadness". Gurgi is well aware that Taran doesn't think too highly of him (to put it mildly), and yet he's still the closest thing to a friend Gurgi has.has.
** Friendship isn't entirely mutual; one person may consider another a friend while the other doesn't think that much of them. [[AliceAndBob Alice can be Bob's friend]] without Bob being Alice's. Gurgi is just showing awareness of this paradox.

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