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* Throughout the original series, Lurch is often CloserToEarth than the rest of the family, groaning and rolling his eyes when they seem confused by visitors' responses to their antics. It makes sense--while he's definitely [[FamilyOfChoice one of the family]], he ''isn't'' an Addams by birth. We know he got the job as their butler as an adult, given that in "Mother Lurch Visits the Addams Family," it's stated that he left home after growing up to seek his fortune. As such, while Lurch has been ConditionedToAcceptHorror at this point, he wasn't born into the Addams clan and had some exposure to the "normal" world, so he can see the perspective that the others can't.
** This also explains why the Addamses hired Lurch as their butler in the first place. His monstrous appearance probably scared away his other prospective employers, but Gomez and Morticia probably LOVED it!
** This also explains why the Addamses hired Lurch as their butler in the first place. His monstrous appearance probably scared away his other prospective employers, but Gomez and Morticia probably LOVED it!
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* Throughout the original series, Lurch is often CloserToEarth than the rest of the family, groaning and rolling his eyes when they seem confused by visitors' responses to their antics. It makes sense--while he's definitely [[FamilyOfChoice one of the family]], he ''isn't'' an Addams by birth. We know he got the job as their butler as an adult, given that in "Mother Lurch Visits the Addams Family," it's stated that he left home to seek his fortune after growing up to seek his fortune.up. As such, while Lurch has been ConditionedToAcceptHorror at this point, he wasn't born into the Addams clan and had some exposure to the "normal" world, so he can see the perspective that the others can't.
** This also explains why the Addamses hired Lurch as their butler in the first place. His monstrous appearance probably scared away his other prospective employers, but Gomez and Morticiaprobably must have LOVED it!
** This also explains why the Addamses hired Lurch as their butler in the first place. His monstrous appearance probably scared away his other prospective employers, but Gomez and Morticia
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* Throughout the original series, Lurch is often CloserToEarth than the rest of the family, groaning and rolling his eyes when they seem confused by visitors' responses to their antics. It makes sense--while he's definitely [[ChosenFamily one of the family]], he ''isn't'' an Addams by birth. We know he got the job as their butler as an adult, given that in "Mother Lurch Visits the Addams Family," it's stated that he left home after growing up to seek his fortune. As such, while Lurch has been ConditionedToAcceptHorror at this point, he wasn't born into the Addams clan and had some exposure to the "normal" world, so he can see the perspective that the others can't.
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* Throughout the original series, Lurch is often CloserToEarth than the rest of the family, groaning and rolling his eyes when they seem confused by visitors' responses to their antics. It makes sense--while he's definitely [[ChosenFamily [[FamilyOfChoice one of the family]], he ''isn't'' an Addams by birth. We know he got the job as their butler as an adult, given that in "Mother Lurch Visits the Addams Family," it's stated that he left home after growing up to seek his fortune. As such, while Lurch has been ConditionedToAcceptHorror at this point, he wasn't born into the Addams clan and had some exposure to the "normal" world, so he can see the perspective that the others can't.
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** This also explains why the Addamses hired Lurch as their butler in the first place. His monstrous appearance probably scared away his other prospective employers, but Gomez and Morticia probably LOVED it!
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*** By that logic The Addams's dead lawn, bare trees, statue garden/graveyard and even Morticia's crop of rose thorns minus blossoms would be very Joel-friendly
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*** By that logic The Addams's dead lawn, bare trees, statue garden/graveyard and even Morticia's crop of rose thorns minus blossoms would be very Joel-friendlyJoel-friendly.
**** That's probably because, if the movie Gomez is anything like original Gomez (60s sitcom version), then he's also allergic to all the same things.
**** That's probably because, if the movie Gomez is anything like original Gomez (60s sitcom version), then he's also allergic to all the same things.
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* In ''Addams Family Values'', Debbie has given Fester the present of a bomb. He guesses it as soon as he listens to it, and she gives a "What?!", not realizing that, as an Addams, he'd actually ''want'' to get a bomb as a present!
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* In ''Addams Family Values'', Debbie has given Fester the present of a bomb. He guesses it as soon as he listens to it, and she gives a "What?!", not realizing that, as an Addams, he'd actually ''want'' to get a bomb as a present!present! Not only that, but the Addamses would be familiar enough with giving bombs as gifts that it'd be a reasonable thing for him to guess, particularly once he heard it rattle.
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* The only reason the Beinekes don't leave at the end of Act 1 of the musical is due to Fester and the ancestors causing a storm, but as soon as act 2 starts, everything's cleared up. So why did't Mal try to leave?
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* The only reason the Beinekes don't leave at the end of Act 1 of the musical is due to Fester and the ancestors causing a storm, but as soon as act 2 starts, everything's cleared up. So why did't didn't Mal try to leave?leave?
** The storm isn't ''immediately'' cleared up at the beginning of Act Two. It's not until a few scenes in that someone mentions the weather has changed. Also remember that the Addamses live in the middle of Central Park, and the Beinekes walked there; presumably the whole place is flooded with mud and water, making travel impossible. And finally, the ancestors only conjured the storm as a solution to keep the Beinekes from leaving immediately--once they weren't able to exit at that very second, they all started discussing their problems, so they didn't want to go any more.
** The storm isn't ''immediately'' cleared up at the beginning of Act Two. It's not until a few scenes in that someone mentions the weather has changed. Also remember that the Addamses live in the middle of Central Park, and the Beinekes walked there; presumably the whole place is flooded with mud and water, making travel impossible. And finally, the ancestors only conjured the storm as a solution to keep the Beinekes from leaving immediately--once they weren't able to exit at that very second, they all started discussing their problems, so they didn't want to go any more.
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* Gomez's Spanish heritage is much, much more pronounced in the musical than in any other version. Despite this, he's the only member of his family, both living and deceased who shows any sign of Latin origins.
* The only reason the Beinekes don't leave at the end of Act 1 of the musical is due to Fester and the ancestors causing a storm, but as soon as act 2 starts, everything's cleared up. So why did't Mal try to leave?
* Despite singing and dancing with them at the beginning of the musical, all the Addams except for Fester seem completely oblivious about the ancestors surrounding them.
* The only reason the Beinekes don't leave at the end of Act 1 of the musical is due to Fester and the ancestors causing a storm, but as soon as act 2 starts, everything's cleared up. So why did't Mal try to leave?
* Despite singing and dancing with them at the beginning of the musical, all the Addams except for Fester seem completely oblivious about the ancestors surrounding them.
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* When Lurch claims that [[RobotMaid Smiley]] resigned, he ''holds up a wrench''.
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*** By that logic The Addams's dead lawn, bare trees, statue garden/graveyard and even Morticia's crop of rose thorns minus blossoms would be very Joel-friendly
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*** Margaret kissed Cousin Itt, and the angel told the stork and the stork flew down from heaven and left a diamond under a leaf in the cabbage patch and the diamond turned into a baby
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** Could be that an Addams was one of the ''victims'' of any one of those tragedies. Alternately, they could just see any such event as worthy of a Mamushka.
** It's more likely that they were celebrating having ''survived'' those things, given that the party was celebrating Fester being alive and returning home.
** It's more likely that they were celebrating having ''survived'' those things, given that the party was celebrating Fester being alive and returning home.
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** Could be that an Addams was one of the ''victims'' of any one of those tragedies. Alternately, they could just see any such event great tragedy as an occasion worthy of a Mamushka.
** It's more likely that they were celebrating having ''survived'' those things, given that theparty Mamushka we see was celebrating Fester being alive making it out of the Bermuda Triangle and returning home.home alive.
** It's more likely that they were celebrating having ''survived'' those things, given that the
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*** They're supposed to be a bit disturbing.
** Also, maybe being "allergic to fresh air and sunshine" is a FalseCause fallacy when he really has seasonal allergies? Seasonal allergies happen in the spring and summer, and that's also when there's the most sunshine.
*** It could also be a reference to how they (especially Fester) love electricity?
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* Why weren't the Addamses surprised when Debbie [[spoiler:turned out to be a serial killer? Simple: they already knew. When she turned up at their home for the first time, she mentioned how she had references to prove she wasn't a homicidal maniac. Being the Addamses, they rolled with it, but Gomez specifically said 'you're too young', implying that she still had all the other signs. Thus, when the truth came out, it was no shock. They already had it figured from minute one]]
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* Why weren't the Addamses surprised when Debbie [[spoiler:turned out to be a serial killer? Simple: they already knew. When she turned up at their home for the first time, she mentioned how she had references to prove she wasn't a homicidal maniac. Being the Addamses, they rolled with it, but Gomez specifically said 'you're too young', implying that she still had all the other signs. Thus, when the truth came out, it was no shock. They already had it figured from minute one]]
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* The only two family members not seen sliding down the fireman's pole are Morticia and Lurch. Maybe Morticia is too dignified and Lurch fears he may break it due to his size.
* As mentioned on the WMG page, the mention that the Addamses danced the Mamushka for Jack the Ripper gives three possible reasons for his disappearance: Either A.) He [[AccidentalMurder died accidentally during the Mamushka]], B.) He gave up murdering after several failed attempts to kill an Addams, or C.) He tried to kill an Addams, but she fought back and killed him.
* The only two family members not seen sliding down the fireman's pole are Morticia and Lurch. Maybe Morticia is too dignified and Lurch fears he may break it due to his size.
* As mentioned on the WMG page, the mention that the Addamses danced the Mamushka for Jack the Ripper gives three possible reasons for his disappearance: Either A.) He [[AccidentalMurder died accidentally during the Mamushka]], B.) He gave up murdering after several failed attempts to kill an Addams, or C.) He tried to kill an Addams, but she fought back and killed him.
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** At the ending when Margaret arrives at the Addams Family residence for the Halloween Party she is dressed as a fairy. While at first glance one may mistake this as FairyCompanion or FairyGodmother, this could also be an unassuming ruse for TheFairFolk which the fairies of old were originally portrayed as.
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* There are several hints that [[spoiler: "Gordon" really was Fester all along]]: Granny was able to sense his presence at dinner because he was already there, he showed the children how to gut with a sword, and he danced the Mamushka perfectly.[[note]] There are real-world instances where [[GeniusBonus amnesiacs can briefly recall aspects of themselves when exposed to music that they listened to]]. The Mamushka was [[AncientTradition an Addams Family tradition passed down through the generations]], and Fester had probably already danced it with Gomez many times before his accident. When the music started, his muscle memory kicked in and he was able to perform the dance flawlessly, but completely unaware of what it really meant. [[/note]]
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* There are several hints that [[spoiler: "Gordon" really was Fester all along]]: Granny was able to sense his presence at dinner because he was already there, in the room, he showed the children how to gut with a sword, and he danced the Mamushka perfectly.[[note]] There are real-world instances where [[GeniusBonus amnesiacs can briefly recall aspects of themselves when exposed to music that they listened to]].to, such as Ilene Woods (the voice actress of Cinderella) with 'A Dream Is A Wish Your Heart Makes"- while she still didn't remember she voiced her, it made her happy and the nurses would play it all the time]]. The Mamushka was [[AncientTradition an Addams Family tradition passed down through the generations]], and Fester had probably already danced it with Gomez many times before his accident. When the music started, his muscle memory kicked in and he was able to perform the dance flawlessly, but completely unaware even if he had no conscious memory of what it really meant.it. [[/note]]
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* There are several hints that [[spoiler: "Gordon" really was Fester all along]]: Granny was able to sense his presence at dinner, he showed the children how to gut with a sword, and how well he danced the Mamushka.[[note]] There are real-world instances where [[GeniusBonus people affected with amnesia can briefly recall aspects of themselves when exposed to music that they listened to]]: since The Mamushka was [[AncientTradition an Addams Family tradition]], and Fester had probably already danced it many times before being hit with amnesia: that the moment he heard the music start to play, Festers' Muscle Memory immediately kicked in without him being fully aware. [[/note]]
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* There are several hints that [[spoiler: "Gordon" really was Fester all along]]: Granny was able to sense his presence at dinner, dinner because he was already there, he showed the children how to gut with a sword, and how well he danced the Mamushka.Mamushka perfectly.[[note]] There are real-world instances where [[GeniusBonus people affected with amnesia amnesiacs can briefly recall aspects of themselves when exposed to music that they listened to]]: since to]]. The Mamushka was [[AncientTradition an Addams Family tradition]], tradition passed down through the generations]], and Fester had probably already danced it with Gomez many times before being hit with amnesia: that the moment he heard his accident. When the music start to play, Festers' Muscle Memory immediately started, his muscle memory kicked in without him being fully aware.and he was able to perform the dance flawlessly, but completely unaware of what it really meant. [[/note]]
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* The reason why Wednesday and Pugsley lap up as much time as they can with their Uncle Fester is because, that while it isn't addressed directly, this is it's the first time that they have they've met in this continuity.
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* In ''Addams Family Values'', Debbie has given Fester the present of a bomb. He guesses it as soon as he listens to it, and she gives a "What?!", not realizing that, as an Addams, he'd actually WANT ''want'' to get a bomb as a present!
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* The climax of the second movie actually resolved a long-standing RunningGag from two movies: [[spoiler: namely, the Addams kids trying to kill one another off. Turns out that when one of the kids actually succeeded in killing off a relative, it was ''Pubert'' killing his ''aunt-in-law''.]]
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* The climax of the second movie actually resolved a long-standing RunningGag from two movies: [[spoiler: namely, the Addams kids trying to kill one another off. Turns out that when one of the kids actually ''actually'' succeeded in killing off a relative, it was ''Pubert'' killing his ''aunt-in-law''.]]
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** Given that only that ''specific'' episode was about people who were "brainwashed by Voodoo witch magic", and Gomez was extremely bored, it's more likely that he had called in multiple times during that show -- and only to ask where the "Voodoo witches" were meeting.
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** It's more likely that they were celebrating having ''survived'' those things, given that the party was celebrating Fester being alive and returning home.
** It's more likely that they were celebrating having ''survived'' those things, given that the party was celebrating Fester being alive and returning home.
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* In the second movie, Gomez tells Debbie that they 'of course they have cable'. This is because after being evicted from their house in the first movie, Gomez became addicted to daytime television shows.
** It could also be to get horror films and watch documentaries on serial killers.
** It's also possible that because the Addams are, well, [[TooKinkyToTorture the Addams]], they may have had [[OhCrap something else]] in mind when it comes to [[WhipItGood cable]].
*** Or tightrope walking? They're daredevils, after all.
** It could also be to get horror films and watch documentaries on serial killers.
** It's also possible that because the Addams are, well, [[TooKinkyToTorture the Addams]], they may have had [[OhCrap something else]] in mind when it comes to [[WhipItGood cable]].
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** It's also possible that because the Addams are, well, [[TooKinkyToTorture the Addams]], they may have had [[OhCrap something else]] in mind when it comes to [[WhipItGood cable]].
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** It could also be to get horror films and watch documentaries on serial killers.
** It's also possible that because the Addams are, well, [[TooKinkyToTorture the Addams]], they may have had [[OhCrap something else]] in mind when it comes to [[WhipItGood cable]].
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* In ''Addams Family Values'', Debbie has given Fester the present of a bomb. He guesses it as soon as he listens to it, and she gives aflat "What?", "What?!", not realizing that, as an Addams, he'd actually WANT to get a bomb as a present!
** It could also be to get horror films and watch documentaries on serial killers.
** It's also possible that because the Addams are, well, [[TooKinkyToTorture the Addams]], they may have had [[OhCrap something else]] in mind when it comes to [[WhipItGood cable]].
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** Of course it isn't for weirdos, it's for anyone who needs to be loved and to love, ''no matter how strange, freaky and weird they may be''. That, incidentally, is the difference between Margaret and Debbie: both needed love and someone to love, but where Margaret could accept the weirdness and see the loving person under Itt's strangeness, Debbie couldn't see past it-hence Margaret finding happiness and Debbie [[spoiler: finding a messy death]].
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** Of course it isn't for weirdos, it's for anyone who needs to be loved and to love, ''no matter how strange, freaky and weird they may be''. That, incidentally, is the difference between Margaret and Debbie: both needed love and someone to love, but where Margaret could accept the weirdness and see the loving person under Itt's strangeness, Debbie couldn't see past it-hence it--hence Margaret finding happiness and Debbie [[spoiler: finding a messy death]].
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* The reason the Addams act the way they do and seem to kill people with no guilt? The Addams as a whole all have NighInvulnerability and other powers and assume that others do too.
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* In "The Addams Family Tree", Gomez, Morticia, and Fester get into an argument about whether to avenge the family honor in a duel or CombatPragmatist style. Gomez tells Fester that Addamses don't know the meaning of the word "fear" and Fester answers that he does. In the original 1964 series, Uncle Fester is implied to be related to Morticia, not Gomez. He's a Frump, not technically an Addams.
* The reason the Addams act the way they do and seem to kill people with no guilt? The Addams as a whole all have NighInvulnerability and other powers and [[IThoughtEveryoneCouldDoThat assume that others dotoo.too]].
* The reason the Addams act the way they do and seem to kill people with no guilt? The Addams as a whole all have NighInvulnerability and other powers and [[IThoughtEveryoneCouldDoThat assume that others do
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** This can't be the case. In the movies Grandmama is Morticia's mother, whereas in '''The New Addams Family''' she's Gomez's mother, just like in the first TV show. The Addamses are very grim, but not murderous, not unprovoked at least and certainly not towards their own kind. It's more likely that Wednesday said Pugsley ate the third only to scare the man she was talking to. As for the other 2 children, The movies and first TV show have different continuities. Also, they did mention in the second movie that the tradition of children dying has stopped. Maybe it wasn't even a tradition at all, they are very grim and probably only meant it [[MetaphoricallyTrue in a metaphorical way]].
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*** Isn't it still rather disturbing that they ''fantasize'' about murder?
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* Wednesday starts warming up to Joel when he mentions his myriad allergies (fresh air, sunshine), and when he states that fabric softener would kill him, she inches over to his side. Joel's negative reactions to all these "pleasant" things are right up the Addamses' alley: no wonder she's drawn to him!
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** Craven ''didn't know'' the amnesiac she found in the Bermuda Triangle was Fester Addams: she just knew '''he wasn't her natural son'''. There's nothing in the film to suggest Craven knew all along that Gordon was Fester. If she did, don't you think a woman as greedy and calculating as her would have used that knowledge (and Fester) to her advantage, like holding him hostage for a huge payday, or at least what would have probably a ''huge'' reward from an immensely grateful Gomez?
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** Craven ''didn't know'' the amnesiac she found in the Bermuda Triangle was Fester Addams: she just knew '''he wasn't her natural son'''. There's nothing in the film to suggest Craven knew all along that Gordon was Fester. If she did, don't you think a woman as greedy and calculating as her would have used that knowledge (and Fester) to her advantage, like holding him hostage for a huge payday, or for at least what would have probably a ''huge'' reward from an immensely grateful Gomez?
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** Craven ''didn't know'' the amnesiac she found in the Bermuda Triangle was Fester Addams: she just knew ''he wasn't her natural son''. There's nothing in the film to suggest Craven knew all along that Gordon was Fester. If she did, don't you think a woman as greedy and calculating as her would have used that knowledge (and Fester) to her advantage, like holding him hostage for a huge payday, or at least what would have probably a ''huge'' reward from an immensely grateful Gomez?
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