History Fridge / PokemonRubyAndSapphire

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* When you are underwater, weather abilities somehow work. ''Underwater''. Especially when a Water-type, like Kyogre, has Drizzle as its ability, and it rains underwater. Or, perhaps more baffling, Primal Groudon's ability, which negates water attacks. Underwater.
** Groudon's ability working underwater veers right into FridgeHorror if you think about it from a physics standpoint. A sufficient source of heat can flash-vaporize water. To do it underwater, you'd need a massive amount of heat, for example a nuclear bomb, like the one in ''Film/PacificRim'' for instance. You're walking around with something producing as much heat as a ''thermo-nuclear explosion near-constantly''. ConvectionSchmonvection is ''clearly'' in play with Primal Groudon. On the other hand, by the time you encounter Groudon, you have the Blue Orb which is supposed to counteract Primal Groudon's magic.
** More generally - there are no restrictions at all on what Pokémon or attacks you can use while underwater, which takes the old conundrum of how Golem can be used while surfing up a notch. Lava snails can survive and breathe fire at the bottom of the ocean; electric attacks can be used without electrocuting the player character. At least in ''[=ORAS=]'' the player is given a scuba mask when they get dive. Though that still doesn't explain any non-Water-Types they may have...
* Your final fight with Wally is a lot more tragic when you realize how much he idolizes you and wishes to fight you. To make a comparison, it's the equivalent to a sick kid making a wish on the Make A Wish Foundation to play basketball with their favorite athlete... Except that said athlete doesn't hold back, use underhanded tactics and (possibly) smack talks and showboating. [[WhatTheHellPlayer How does victory taste]]?
** [[SlidingScaleOfIdealismVersusCynicism On the other hand]], your battle with Wally is meant to show you how far he has come as a trainer; your going all out against him is a sign that [[SugarWiki/HeartwarmingMoments you're willing to reciprocate his feelings and passion.]] In the remakes, he even thanks you for not holding back against him.
* Once you rescue Professor Cozmo, your rival asks if you'd like to go back to Mauville City with them, and says that they intend to get their next badge from the Mauville Gym. Since you can't get past the boulders blocking Route 111 without Rock Smash, which you can't use unless you have the Mauville Gym Badge, how did your rival get past the boulders?
** The same way that all the other [=NPCs=] in the game can get places that they "shouldn't" be: GameplayAndStorySegregation.
* Starting in this generation, the games add a little blurb whenever you lose a fight. After blacking/whiting out, the player "scurries back to the Pokémon Center," while somehow preventing themselves from being attacked. How? It sounds like the user has some sort of medical condition that means they shouldn't be training Pokémon in the first place, because blacking out is another way of saying ''fainting'' and whiting out is usually caused by hypoxia[[note]]low blood oxygen levels[[/note]] and typically is followed by passing out. Even if they don't, the lack of oxygen means they'll probably be dizzy and unable to walk properly. It seems like they added the message to explain away some existing Fridge Logic (i.e., how they got to the Center in the first place), but it just opens up more questions.
** In medicine, a "blackout" is a form of amnesia which may be caused by a recent traumatic event and/or stress -- such as, say, losing a battle -- in which case one may forget everything that happened right before or right after the event, known as anterograde amnesia. Sounds familiar, huh?
* Chaz becoming Brawly's student, while a fun character moment, raises the question of how the two got to know each other, given that Chaz hasn't yet started challenging Gyms and doesn't have any connection to Dewford Town that we know about. While it's totally possible that Chaz simply approached the Fighting-type Gym Leader apropos of nothing to help him out with his Fighting-type Pokémon, and Brawly went with it, it's also wholly possible that Lisia introduced the two of them. Brawly is said to be friends with Steven, who in turn is close friends with Wallace, Lisia's uncle: it's likely that all three of them know each fairly well, which would give Lisia the connection necessary to ask Brawly to mentor her "rival."
** This seems more like FridgeBrilliance than FridgeLogic since there's a logical explanation there. That aside, though, considering that all of the gym signs have what types the leaders train on them, the fact that Brawly specializes in Fighting-types is probably common knowledge. It's really not ''that'' weird that Chaz would want to ask for advice for his Machoke from a Fighting specialist.
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** In ''WebVideo/PokemonGenerations'' episode "The Vision", Courtney has a vision of a possible future, usually a power Psychics have.

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[[center:[-'''Main Games:''' [[Fridge/PokemonRedAndBlue Red and Blue]] | [[Fridge/PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold and Silver]] | '''Ruby and Sapphire''' | [[Fridge/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Diamond and Pearl]] | [[Fridge/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]] | [[Fridge/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Black 2 and White 2]] | [[Fridge/PokemonXAndY X and Y]] | [[Fridge/PokemonSunAndMoon Sun and Moon]] | [[Fridge/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon]] | [[Fridge/PokemonLetsGoPikachuAndLetsGoEevee Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!]] | [[Fridge/PokemonSwordAndShield Sword and Shield]] | [[Fridge/PokemonLegendsArceus Legends: Arceus]]-]]]

* The remakes give the Koffing family for Team Magma to use, and the Grimer family for Team Aqua to use. Both are fitting additions, as the Koffing family is gaseous, almost like the smog or ash from a volcano, so it makes sense that Team Magma would use them. Meanwhile the Grimer family is more liquid based, kind of like the water in the ocean, so it makes sense that Team Aqua would use them.
* Why did Maxie and Archie fail in the original games? They wanted to control Groudon or Kyogre... [[FailedASpotCheck with the Orb of the opposite legendary]]. However, as the remakes reveals that both Orbs have different effects on both legendaries, what the team leaders wanted to do is to suppress the Pokémon enough to be tamable; they probably know what they were doing after all.
** Alternatively, the Orbs did correspond with the right Pokémon. If you look closely, Groudon has blue TronLines, so the Blue Orb would probably match its inner blue aura. The same can be said for Kyogre who has very noticeable red TronLines, so the Red Orb would likewise match him. Maxie and Archie couldn't control them because, well, [[GaiasVengeance man is no match for the power of nature]] when things start to really hit the fan.

* Okay, stuffing more than 30 legendaries in one set of games might be [[NoKillLikeOverkill a tad overboard]]. But if you take into account that excluding the PokéBank Celebi X and Y only offer 7 legendaries, the fact that almost none of the official tournaments allow Pokémon that were transferred from previous generations, and since that method was the only way to bring most of the legendaries in the series into Generation VI, this actually might shape up to be a pretty convienient thing for many players - allowing them to use most of the legendaries they couldn't use before ASAP instead of spreading the pool over multiple sets of games outside of the generation's primary set. Not to mention that due to the coding in the Gen VI games that allows mons in the "No Eggs" group to have no less than 3 IVs of 31 when generated in the wild, all of these legendaries are almost guaranteed to be competitively strong.

** More generally - there are no restrictions at all on what Pokémon or attacks you can use while underwater, which takes the old conundrum of how Golem can be used while surfing UpToEleven. Lava snails can survive and breathe fire at the bottom of the ocean; electric attacks can be used without electrocuting the player character. At least in ''[=ORAS=]'' the player is given a scuba mask when they get dive. Though that still doesn't explain any non-Water-Types they may have...

** Who happens to be the main trainer in Gen III to have a Gardevoir? Wally, the IllBoy, easily one of the most vulnerable major characters in game. In the remakes, he had a Gallade, a Pokémon known for fighting fiercely when protecting someone.

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** Also, since they're his family, of course their opinion of him would be favorably biased (unless they're a DysfunctionalFamily, which they're not).
** The remakes [[SubvertedTrope subvert this]] thanks to a bit of ShowDontTell. If you defeat the Winstrates, you can find Vito's grandmother polishing one of his several trophies, and his updated party implies that he's travelled to [[VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite Unova]] for training. Vito might very well be one of the ''better'' NPC trainers... until he meets Brendan/May, whose role as the PlayerCharacter kicks him in the Poké Balls so hard, he ''retires from training from the loss.'' Vito basically represents the many other trainers of the Pokemon world [[OvershadowedByAwesome who don't even get a fair chance at their dreams]] thanks to this being a franchise with many {{kid hero}}es.
* Gardevoir's loyalty and devotion makes sense from an evolutionary (Darwinian that is) standpoint if you look at its pre-evolved forms. Ralts is one of the weakest Pokemon in the series, even outdoing [[JokeCharacter Magikarp]], and Kirlia is the weakest evolved Pokemon that isn't a sedentary cocoon. Gardevoir evolved to [[PapaWolf fiercely protect those it loved]], [[MamaBear their children]], as they were very vulnerable. And think about humans, they can't fly, shoot fire, or attack with their minds. Gardevoir sees its trainer as a defenseless child so the instinct carries over. The same can be said for Gallade, the Gen IV evolution, a chivalrous pokemon who also protects the weak.

* Okay, stuffing more than 30 legendaries in one set of games might be [[NoKillLikeOverkill a tad overboard]]. But if you take into account that excluding the Poke Bank Celebi X and Y only offer 7 legendaries, the fact that almost none of the official tournaments allow Pokemon that were transferred from previous generations, and since that method was the only way to bring most of the legendaries in the series into Generation VI, this actually might shape up to be a pretty convienient thing for many players - allowing them to use most of the legendaries they couldn't use before ASAP instead of spreading the pool over multiple sets of games outside of the generation's primary set. Not to mention that due to the coding in the Gen VI games that allows mons in the "No Eggs" group to have no less than 3 IVs of 31 when generated in the wild, all of these legendaries are almost guaranteed to be competitively strong.

* The Version exclusives between the Dual Legendaries makes sense if you go by the respective colors of Ruby and Sapphire. They are exclusive to a version according to their own color or variant:\\
Ho-oh is mainly orangey red, while Lugia, while mainly white, has light blue and navy as part of its color scheme.\\
Palkia has pink, while Dialga has navy and cyan as part of its color schemes.\\
Reshiram produces an orange flames when activating its ability. Zekrom produces blue lightning by doing the same.\\
While Tornadus is green instead, it's still exclusive to Omega Ruby by process of elimination and was [[WhatCouldHaveBeen originally going to be red]]. Thunderus, being cyan in color, is exclusive to Alpha Sapphire, as Tornadus goes to the other.\\
This doesn't just applies to the legendary, most Pokemon exclusive to Omega Ruby have red, brown or warm colors in their achemes, while those in Alpha Sapphire have different shades of blue, with a few exceptions having cool colors instead.
* In Emerald Version, Groudon and Kyogre would be simultaneously raising the land and sea. They aren't going to destroy or expand the world... they're going to remake it. All structures on land will crumble, human kind will fall, oceans will reshape continents. It's not the end of the world. It's the remake of it.
* The Delta Episode finally revealed the existence of a Pokémon multiverse. Using this fact, it's very easy to prove that all Pokémon media and all Pokémon games are canon even if they're remakes, [[OneGameForThePriceOfTwo they're different "versions" of each other]] or that they contradict each other - they just portray events from different universes.
** And also perhaps the side games. VideoGame/PokemonMysteryDungeon is implied to be a world where humans existed at one point but were wiped out, existing only as fairy tales. Coincidently, in the first game there was also an unexplained meteor, that housed Deoxys, hurdling towards that world, that Rayquaza had to stop. Foreshadowing perhaps?

* Overlapping Brilliance and Horror alike, why would the special [=DexNav=] encounters be so powerful? Egg Moves, Hidden Abilities, rare (and often man-made) hold items, up to a minimum of 3 perfect [=IVs=]... It all adds up! They're all breeding rejects, the countless pokemon hatched and released by other players in the pursuit of eugenically-superior competitive pokemon! They cling to these hold items because it reminds them of their time spent in the company of humans, and lurk near where trainers travel in hopes of meeting someone who would adopt/capture them!

* While not necessarily connected to the colour of the games, Lunatone's shiny form is pretty clever -- its blue eyes are a StealthPun of "once in a blue moon", which describes shinies rather accurately.
* A lot of people complain that May is too busty for a kid her age. Ignoring the fact that it is possible for someone of ten years old to be that size, May's never said to be ten in the games. The only protagonist with an age is Red (and by connection, Leaf) who is ''eleven''. May can be anywhere from eleven to thirteen for all we know. May is, however, explicitly ten in the anime, and not more than thirteen by her reappearance in DP according to Pokemon Anime timeline theory. So, if the anime mimicked the games, May was also ten in RSE.

* Zinnia talks about the existence of the original game's reality and asks the player what would happen if the meteorite that was heading towards the planet were to collide with it. Said meteorite was mentioned to be heading towards south of Sootopolis (where the other secret/post-game islands of Hoenn were in the original games) and contained Deoxys within it, complete with the same triangle with it inside that appeared on Birth Island. Piece these facts together, and you'd realize that said event did, in fact, already happen in the original game's continuity, with the result being that said meteorite became Birth Island and that nothing else was effected.

** This makes even more sense when you remember that the original R/S/E games are alternate reality versions of the remake's timeline. In the originals, you never encounter Deoxys in space, yet there's never the impending doom of a meteor crash, and instead you find Deoxys and the same triangle that appeared in the meteor on Birth Island. The truth is the earth was never in danger, since Deoxys itself would've somehow stopped or destroyed the meteor once it reached the Earth. Basically in the remakes you and Mega Rayquaza blow up Deoxys's space sedan. NiceJobBreakingItHero.

* Take the initials which tend to refer to the Hoenn games' names - R, S, E, OR, AS. The games where team Aqua appear spell out SEAS, and taking the games Team Magma appear in spell out ORRE... The setting of ''VideoGame/PokemonColosseum'' and ''VideoGame/PokemonXDGaleOfDarkness'', which just happens to be a large desert and also is where the player gets to battle robots based on Kyogre and Groudon.
* Some gyms in Pokemon games (especially in Unova) are themed after other types of establishments--for example, the Rustboro gym in Hoenn is a museum, the Striaton gym in Unova is a restaurant, and the Lumiose Gym in Kalos is the Eiffel Tower. Brawly's gym is one of these too, and it's a...

* Zinnia's Pokemon is named Aster. Aster and Zinnias are both flowers. Additionally, their names start with the first (Alpha) and last (Omega) letters of the English alphabet. They're also Draconids (Delta).

* Early in the game there are two rich trainers who both use a full restore during battle. At first glance, the explanation seems to be they're rich enough to afford full restores this early, but that [[FridgeLogic falls flat]] when you consider the items that can be bought depend on where you are, and we're nowhere near where you can purchase them. The real reason? Consider they both have Zigzagoon. They got them via pickup, which, in Ruby and Sapphire, have a 10% chance at getting a full restore. This ceases to be true in Emerald and the remakes, however: from Emerald onward, what you can get is tied to the Pokemon's level, so you can't get full restores until level 21 at earliest, and even then the chance is only 1%.

** More generally - there are no restrictions at all on what Pokemon or attacks you can use while underwater, which takes the old conundrum of how Golem can be used while surfing UpToEleven. Lava snails can survive and breathe fire at the bottom of the ocean; electric attacks can be used without electrocuting the player character. At least in ''[=ORAS=]'' the player is given a scuba mask when they get dive. Though that still doesn't explain any non-Water-Types they may have...

* Chaz becoming Brawly's student, while a fun character moment, raises the question of how the two got to know each other, given that Chaz hasn't yet started challenging Gyms and doesn't have any connection to Dewford Town that we know about. While it's totally possible that Chaz simply approached the Fighting-type Gym Leader apropos of nothing to help him out with his Fighting-type Pokemon, and Brawly went with it, it's also wholly possible that Lisia introduced the two of them. Brawly is said to be friends with Steven, who in turn is close friends with Wallace, Lisia's uncle: it's likely that all three of them know each fairly well, which would give Lisia the connection necessary to ask Brawly to mentor her "rival."

* Steven's father talks about how they use a source of energy called "Infinity Energy." It's implied that this energy is the same energy that as used with [[VideoGame/PokemonXAndY AZ's Ultimate Weapon]], which requires the sacrifice of Pokemon to power it. Does this perhaps mean that Devon corporation is killing pokemon for energy?

** The truth of the matter is revealed if you talk to Wattson and his wife after checking on the possible malfunction in New Mauville. Namely, the completion and utilization of a 69-floor underground city would have been detrimental to the local wildlife. However, the Seviper Extract is unnerving in a different fashion. If you translate it to real-life terms, you get...snake oil. ''Mauville Holdings was giving its employees mere placebos.''

* In the Devon Corporation building in Rustboro City, there's a scientist who mentions that "I'm attempting a device that lets you see into the dreams of Pokémon!! But it's not going well..." Two generations later, you get to [[DreamWorld do just this]] in ''VideoGame/PokemonBlackAndWhite''. This is referenced in the remakes.

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[[center:[-'''Main Games:''' [[Fridge/PokemonRedAndBlue Red and Blue]] | [[Fridge/PokemonGoldAndSilver Gold and Silver]] | '''Ruby and Sapphire''' | [[Fridge/PokemonDiamondAndPearl Diamond and Pearl]] | [[Fridge/PokemonBlackAndWhite Black and White]] | [[Fridge/PokemonBlack2AndWhite2 Black 2 and White 2]] | [[Fridge/PokemonXAndY X and Y]] | [[Fridge/PokemonSunAndMoon Sun and Moon]] | [[Fridge/PokemonUltraSunAndUltraMoon Ultra Sun and Ultra Moon]] | [[Fridge/PokemonSwordAndShield Sword and Shield]]-]]]

* Two critical locations are Mt. Pyre (where the Orbs related to Groudon and Kyogre can be locates) and Cave of Origin (where you fight the legendary as part of climax). The former is a graveyard, the latter is a place about which it's said it's where life begins (hence its name). [[MeaningfulName Beginning and end.]] [[TitleDrop Alpha and Omega.]]
** Actually, the Cave of Origin is said to be a place where "a long-sleeping Pokémon will descend upon this cavern in order to awaken its true powers". That's why it's called the "Shrine of ''Awakening''" in Japan, and why Kyogre[=/=]Groudon go there to after being awakened by Team Aqua[=/=]Plasma. "Cave of Origin" was just a localization and seems to have no basis on lore.

** You may have noticed that most of these legendaries are found in dark portals with golden outlines. These are exactly like the rings on Hoopa (an unreleased Pokémon), and ''especially'' like the big ring on the body of its Unbound forme. Leaked event dialogue from X and Y reveals that stealing things into pocket dimensions -- including ''an entire castle'' -- is Hoopa's modus operandi, and it does this basically ForTheEvulz. Dropping a dozen OlympusMons on Hoenn is [[{{Jerkass}} Hoopa's idea of a joke...]]