History Fridge / Oblivion2013

* How much of a chance does humanity really have? That was one ship, without much for defenses, capable of [[spoiler: cloning an army. And it's been looting the planet with relative impunity for fifty years]]. Humanity threw everything it had at the damn thing and it shrugged until they managed a surprise attack. The planet is a ''wasteland.'' Nuclear fallout, chemical waste, environmental toxins, most of the planet's water gone. The best case scenario, they'll end up like [[Franchise/{{Dune}} Arrakis]] or [[Franchise/StarWars Tatooine's Sand People]]. The worst case? [[ShootTheShaggyDog The survivors will muddle through three or four generations being picked off by hostile wildlife, starvation, and disease before being finished off by toxic waste.]] Humanity will ''never'' reach high civilization again because the planet itself won't have the resources capable of doing so.
** Also, the remains of the Moon are still in orbit and will provide a constant source of large-scale impact events. Their sheer number means that one of them eventually WILL cause a massive extinction of whatever life still lingers. Consider that the extinction causes by TET already rivals the Permian-Triassic one and not just Humanity, but all remaining multi-cellar organisms are living on borrowed time.
*** The remains of the moon seem to have settled down in an orbit around each other, and will probably just re-merge into a Moon 2.0.

*** There almost has to be ''some,'' but it's likely that a significant number of the radiation zones are fakes to keep the techs separated. During the motorcycle SceneryGorn montage, Jack blows past what appears to be an Ohio-class SSBN with all her missile hatches open, so humanity popped off at least some nukes, even if they didn't launch everything.
** The one great horror that remains is genetic diversity, or more precisely, the lack thereof. The Jacks and Vikas can't help that no matter ''how'' many they are, and the scavs can provide prime genetic material only if the radiation zones are fake. Even worse, the drones are a KeystoneArmy, and even if the bubblecraft still work, they will soon run out of fuel. Too bad, they would have come in handy when trying to prevent inbreeding in the long run.

* So why were Tet became so interested in Julia to the point of insisting Jack bring her to the station?

* At first, Julia's strange behaviour around Jack and Vika could be ostensibly attributed to having just woken up from delta sleep. When you know the context that Julia is working with at that point in time ([[spoiler: Jack and Julia are married, and Jack, Vika and Julia were all in delta sleep on the same mission to Titan 60 years ago, with Vika and Jack being woken early to investigate the Tet]]), the scene is instantly a disorienting nightmare, with [[spoiler: Jack and Vika apparently together, with no recollection of Julia, and speaking familiarly of the alien thingo they were sent to investigate. To top it all off, the Tet is now orbiting Earth instead of being nearly 40 days space travel away from Earth, and the Earth itself is a wasteland]]. Anyone would react strangely in such a situation.

* At face value, the initial story makes no sense. Earth got destroyed by a massive all-out nuclear war combined with environmental destruction, and yet humanity somehow managed to build and launch a gigantic space station and is now on its way to colonize/terraform Titan, all that using 2017 technology, no less (although admittedly [[TwentyMinutesIntoTheFuture their 2017 is different than ours]]). If they still have all these resources, can't they just restore Earth? It doesn't even look that bad! It all makes sense when it's explained [[spoiler:that humans never made the Tet and have no plans to actually reach Titan; in fact, "humanity" is down to a few scrappy survivors and an army of brainwashed clones]]

** The one great horror that remains is genetic diversity, or more precisely, the lack thereof. The Jacks and Vikas can't help that no matter ''how'' many they are, and the scavs can provide prime genetic material only if the radiation zones are fake. Even worse, the drones are a KeystoneArmy, and even if the bubblecraft still work, they will soon run out of fuel. Too bad, they would have come in handy when trying to prevent inbreeding in the long run.
* [[spoiler: So, at the end of the movie, there are at least 50 Jack/Victoria clones left who still believe that the Tet is the last chance of humanity to get to Titan and survive. And they've just seen it explode.]]

** The one great horror that remains is genetic diversity, or more precisely, the lack thereof. The Jacks and Viccas can't help that no matter ''how'' many they are, and the scavs can provide prime genetic material only if the radiation zones are fake. Even worse, the drones are a KeystoneArmy, and even if the bubblecraft still work, they will soon run out of fuel. Too bad, they would have come in handy when trying to prevent inbreeding in the long run.

* So why [[spoiler:Tet became so interested in Julia and insisted Jack bring her to the station? It's likely that Tet realized long ago that Jack and Vika are NOT an effective team; she cloned them because they were the only ones she had access to(It's unclear if Vika's clones participated in invading the Earth, but Jack being a trained soldier and a public hero would have more shock value in a Psychological Warfare against mankind, and Vika obviously has no combat abilities and is more useful as MissionControl), and she probably realized that while they could work together, Vika was not so good at keeping Jack on track, and in fact her behavior made him more unpredictable(As hinted by Jack meeting one of Vika's clones, each pair of clones has the same relationship problems: Vika being too professional, by-the-books and controlling, making Jack feel uncomfortable and restless (It's likely Tet had problems with other clones going out of control in the past because of that; the "are you an effective team?" question is likely a repeat test of Tet to evaluate whether each clone par is still under control or not, which implies there were problems with the clone teams before to warrant such a protocol). Julia, however, is his wife, he had dreams with her and quickly and willingly goes out of his way to help her. If she managed to get her, she could clone her instead of Vika, and thus make the perfect team to continue controlling Earth, since Julia would make Jack feel more at home, less likely to question orders(Vika's tactic of keeping Jack working all day and then distract him with sex at night, only better Jack won't feel like a HenpeckedHusband to a ControlFreak woman). Jack even uses this excuse to convince Tet that he's surrendering: "We're more effective team". I don't know why she just didn't try cloning another human woman before, but it's likely because Jack's clones would always keep dreaming about Julia, and other women might have the same problem; Vika already had an infatuation, thus easier to make her Jack's wife who didn't question her reality, and Julia is already his wife and he's completely in love with her, thus the clones would be a perfect match.]]

* [[spoiler:The alien threat hasn't actually been dealt with. The 'Tet' was part of an energy-collection mission (backed up by the fact we see no aliens - everything is remotely automated). What are the aliens going to do when they realise their power plant has been blown up?]]

** The one great horror that remains is genetic diversity, or more precisely, the lack thereof. The Jacks and Viccas can't help that no matter ''how'' many they are, and the scavs can provide prime genetic material only if the radiation zones are fake. Even worse, the drones are a KeystoneArmy, and even if the bubblecraft still work, they will soon run out of fuel. Too bad, they would have come in handy when trying to prevent inbreeding in the long run.

** There may be no real nuclear fall-out or toxic waste. [[spoiler:The radiation zones are fake, and Beech makes no mention of humans having used nukes during the war. The craters seen may have been left by pieces of the moon]] The ecological disaster seems to have been caused by the moon being fractured more than anything else.

* How much of a chance does humanity really have? That was one ship, without much for defenses, capable of [[spoiler: cloning an army. And it's been looting the planet with relative impunity for fifty years]]. Humanity threw everything it had at the damn thing and it shrugged until they managed a surprise attack. The planet is a ''wasteland.'' Nuclear fallout, chemical waste, environmental toxins, most of the planet's water gone. The best case scenario, they'll end up like [[{{Dune}} Arrakis]] or [[Franchise/StarWars Tatooine's Sand People]]. The worst case? [[ShootTheShaggyDog The survivors will muddle through three or four generations being picked off by hostile wildlife, starvation, and disease before being finished off by toxic waste.]] Humanity will ''never'' reach high civilization again because the planet itself won't have the resources capable of doing so.