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* Discord is implied to be native to Tirek's homeland - he was part of his father's court. Like them, he's a MixAndMatchCritter, [[UpToEleven only more so]].

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* Discord is implied to be native to Tirek's homeland - he was part of his father's court. Like them, he's a MixAndMatchCritter, [[UpToEleven only more so]].so.
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* Seeing Sombra's origins explains the traits of his good MirrorUniverse counterpart (living over 1000 years, [[MartyStu improbably attractive, charismatic, accomplished, and flawless]]). Sombra was MadeOfEvil in a mortal guise; Mirror Sombra was the same, but MadeOfGood.

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* Seeing Sombra's origins explains the traits of his good MirrorUniverse counterpart (living over 1000 years, [[MartyStu improbably attractive, charismatic, accomplished, and flawless]]).flawless). Sombra was MadeOfEvil in a mortal guise; Mirror Sombra was the same, but MadeOfGood.
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* Sombra's LivingShadow form is always big, but it's initially only eye-level with characters like Discord and Iron Will. But when his banishment finally ends in Season 3, said form is now big enough to surround the '''''whole Empire'''''. Did those 1,000 years give him plenty of time for a NextTierPowerUp? [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice Job Breaking It, Celestia and Luna]].

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* Sombra's LivingShadow form is always big, but it's initially only eye-level with characters like Discord and Iron Will. But when his banishment finally ends in Season 3, said form is now big enough to surround the '''''whole Empire'''''. Did those 1,000 years give him plenty of time for a NextTierPowerUp? [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice Job Breaking It, Celestia and Luna]].Luna!]]

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* Sombra's LivingShadow form being his true form explains why he regains his Pony form when nearing a Crystal Heart-holding Spike: The Heart's close range weakens Sombra enough for an opening, which Shining and Cadance gladly use.

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* Sombra's LivingShadow form being his true form one explains why he regains his Pony form when nearing near a Crystal Heart-holding Spike: The Spike; the Heart's close range proximity weakens Sombra enough for an opening, which Shining and Cadance gladly use.



* Sombra doubting he can defeat Celestia and Luna -- odd, given his magical power [[PersonOfMassDestruction here]] [[spoiler:as well as [[OneHitKill in the later]] ''Siege of the Crystal Empire'']]... until you remember (1) he's often been portrayed as a strong-but-slow MightyGlacier, and (2) he's incredibly insecure, NoNonsenseNemesis-y, and [[JustForPun somber]]. He's not worried in terms of actual strength; he's worried in terms of agility/speed and experience -- both of which Celestia and Luna clearly have the edge in.



* Sombra's LivingShadow form's always big, but it's initially only eye-level with guys like Discord and Iron Will. But when his banishment finally ends in Season 3, said form's big enough to surround the '''''whole Empire'''''. Did those 1,000 years give him plenty of time for a NextTierPowerUp? [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice Job Breaking It, Celestia and Luna]].

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* Sombra's LivingShadow form's form is always big, but it's initially only eye-level with guys characters like Discord and Iron Will. But when his banishment finally ends in Season 3, said form's form is now big enough to surround the '''''whole Empire'''''. Did those 1,000 years give him plenty of time for a NextTierPowerUp? [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice Job Breaking It, Celestia and Luna]].



*** Even worse if you recall he already had RealityWarper traits (making a whole kingdom vanish for 1,000 years, making {{Pocket Dimension}}s of stairs and traps, etc.). And even '''''worse''''': [[spoiler:His horn survived and has his spirit, meaning he may still get to fully use his new power someday.]]
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** This ''also'' means that despite capturing an entire army, Celestia was ''holding back'' to not try and kill anyone. What would Celestia capable of if she ''was''?
** Even more unnerving is that, assuming that changelings are not TheAgeless and generations of them has passed since their first emerged form the ooze (as evidence by the Changeling in Trot who believed Chrysalis' crown was an antenna), it could be assumed these holes have now been passed down to their children, becoming some sort of genetic trait amongst their kind!

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** This ''also'' means that despite capturing an entire army, Celestia was ''holding back'' to not try and kill anyone. What would Celestia be capable of if she ''was''?
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** Even more unnerving is that, assuming that changelings are not TheAgeless and generations of them has have passed since their they first emerged form from the ooze (as evidence evidenced by the Changeling in Trot who believed Chrysalis' crown was an antenna), it could be assumed these holes have now been passed down to their children, becoming some sort of genetic trait amongst their kind!
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* Sombra's [[LiterallyShatteredLives shattering of Amore]] in the past retroactively makes his own fate a KarmicDeath. Double so seeing as Cadance, who had a hand in delivering it, is implied to be Amore's distant descendant.
* Sombra doubting he can defeat Celestia and Luna -- odd, given his magical power [[PersonOfMassDestruction here]] [[spoiler:as well as [[OneHitKill in the later]] ''Siege of the Crystal Empire'']]... until you remember (1) he's often been portrayed as a strong-but-slow MightyGlacier, and (2) he's incredibly insecure, NoNonsenseNemesis-y, and [[JustForPun somber]]. He's not worried in terms of actual strength; he's worried in terms of agility/speed and experience -- both of which, Celestia and Luna clearly have the edge in.
* Discord is implied to be native to Tireks homeland - he was part of his father's court. Like them, he's a MixAndMatchCritter, [[UpToEleven only more so]].
* Further explaining why Discord was sent to deal with Tirek at first, he's known Tirek since he was at least an angsty centaur teen, and had the best understanding of how his powers worked. This also explains how Tirek knew Discord well enough to [[ManipulativeBastard play him]].

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* Sombra's [[LiterallyShatteredLives shattering of Amore]] in the past retroactively makes his own fate a KarmicDeath. Double so Doubly so, seeing as Cadance, who had a hand hoof in delivering it, is implied to be Amore's distant descendant.
* Sombra doubting he can defeat Celestia and Luna -- odd, given his magical power [[PersonOfMassDestruction here]] [[spoiler:as well as [[OneHitKill in the later]] ''Siege of the Crystal Empire'']]... until you remember (1) he's often been portrayed as a strong-but-slow MightyGlacier, and (2) he's incredibly insecure, NoNonsenseNemesis-y, and [[JustForPun somber]]. He's not worried in terms of actual strength; he's worried in terms of agility/speed and experience -- both of which, which Celestia and Luna clearly have the edge in.
* Discord is implied to be native to Tireks Tirek's homeland - he was part of his father's court. Like them, he's a MixAndMatchCritter, [[UpToEleven only more so]].
* ** Further explaining why Discord was sent to deal with Tirek at first, he's known Tirek since he was at least an angsty centaur teen, and had the best understanding of how his powers worked. This also explains how Tirek knew Discord well enough to [[ManipulativeBastard play him]].



* Nightmare Moons accessing dreams would explain how [[VillainsBlendInBetter she seemed more up-to-date culturally then Luna]]. It also shows why Celestia used [[TricksterMentor such discreet methods to prepare for her return]]. If Twilight Sparkle or anyone else knew of the plan, Nightmare Moon would know of it through them, and be more direct in dealing with the Mane 6, perhaps using her [[DreamWeaver powers]] to preemptively [[MindRape break, corrupt, and/or demoralize them]].

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* Nightmare Moons Moon's accessing dreams would explain how [[VillainsBlendInBetter she seemed more up-to-date culturally then Luna]]. It also shows why Celestia used [[TricksterMentor such discreet methods to prepare for her return]]. If Twilight Sparkle or anyone else knew of the plan, Nightmare Moon would know of it through them, and be more direct in dealing with the Mane 6, perhaps using her [[DreamWeaver powers]] to preemptively [[MindRape break, corrupt, and/or demoralize them]].

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* Sombra's LivingShadow form being his true form explains why he regains his Pony form when nearing a Crystal-Heart-holding Spike: The Heart's close range weakens Sombra enough for an opening, which Shining and Cadance gladly use.

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* Sombra's LivingShadow form being his true form explains why he regains his Pony form when nearing a Crystal-Heart-holding Crystal Heart-holding Spike: The Heart's close range weakens Sombra enough for an opening, which Shining and Cadance gladly use.


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* Sombra doubting he can defeat Celestia and Luna -- odd, given his magical power [[PersonOfMassDestruction here]] [[spoiler:as well as [[OneHitKill in the later]] ''Siege of the Crystal Empire'']]... until you remember (1) he's often been portrayed as a strong-but-slow MightyGlacier, and (2) he's incredibly insecure, NoNonsenseNemesis-y, and [[JustForPun somber]]. He's not worried in terms of actual strength; he's worried in terms of agility/speed and experience -- both of which, Celestia and Luna clearly have the edge in.
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** Related to the above, but consider that Sombra acts a lot more animalistic in the Season 3 premiere than he is portrayed here even after fully completes his FaceHeelTurn. Those 1,000 not only made him stronger but eroded his mind even further, turning him into a mere shadow of his former self.

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** Related to the above, but consider that Sombra acts a lot more animalistic in the Season 3 premiere than he is portrayed here even after he fully completes his FaceHeelTurn. Those 1,000 years not only made him stronger but eroded his mind even further, turning him into a mere shadow of his former self.
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* The above seem uncharacteristically vicious of Celestia? The first time she was seen in her fiery SuperMode was confronting her evil MirrorUniverse self (she establish that any injuries [[{{Synchronization}} one sustained would effect the other]]), ''[[RageBreakingPoint when she became so enraged]] that she stopped caring [[TakingYouWithMe that it would kill them both]].'' What had happened [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness to put Celestia in that mindset]]? Did she regret it such that she held it back during her rematch with Chrysalis?

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* The above ** This seem uncharacteristically vicious of Celestia? The first time she was seen in her fiery SuperMode was confronting her evil MirrorUniverse self (she establish that any injuries [[{{Synchronization}} one sustained would effect the other]]), ''[[RageBreakingPoint when she became so enraged]] that she stopped caring [[TakingYouWithMe that it would kill them both]].'' What had happened [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness to put Celestia in that mindset]]? Did she regret it such that she held it back during her rematch with Chrysalis?
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* The PowerOfLove was Nightmare Moons undoing in her issue. This was also her undoing when she returned in the main comics "Nightmare Arc", where she [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy went to a lot of effort]] to prevent it from being used against her, she's realized the threat it poses.

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* The PowerOfLove was Nightmare Moons undoing in her issue. This was also her undoing when she returned in the main comics "Nightmare Arc", where she [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy [[TaughtByExperience went to a lot of effort]] to prevent it from being used against her, she's realized the threat it poses.



* The above seem uncharacteristically vicious of Celestia? The first time she was seen in her fiery SuperMode was confronting her evil MirrorUniverse self (she establish that any injuries [[{{Synchronization}} one sustained would effect the other]]), ''[[RageBreakingPoint when she became so enraged that she stopped caring]] [[TakingYouWithMe that it would kill them both.]]'' What had happened [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness to put Celestia in that mindset]]? Did she regret it such that she held it back during her rematch with Chrysalis?

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* The above seem uncharacteristically vicious of Celestia? The first time she was seen in her fiery SuperMode was confronting her evil MirrorUniverse self (she establish that any injuries [[{{Synchronization}} one sustained would effect the other]]), ''[[RageBreakingPoint when she became so enraged enraged]] that she stopped caring]] caring [[TakingYouWithMe that it would kill them both.]]'' both]].'' What had happened [[OOCIsSeriousBusiness to put Celestia in that mindset]]? Did she regret it such that she held it back during her rematch with Chrysalis?



* Not only did Chrysalis successfully manipulate and best Twilight Sparkle, but she ''avoided'' the [[VillainBall needless cruelty to Twilight that led to her undoing]] the last two times. Not only is she free, she's learned from her mistakes, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy and is that much more dangerous for it]].

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* Not only did Chrysalis successfully manipulate and best Twilight Sparkle, but she ''avoided'' the [[VillainBall needless cruelty to Twilight that led to her undoing]] the last two times. Not only is she free, she's learned from her mistakes, [[DangerouslyGenreSavvy and is that much more dangerous for it]].it.
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* The Imposter Chrysalis has their eyes visible. The eyes are the first part of their impersonation to fail, and given how they were constantly observed and could only get away with the trick once...
* Regarding the series chronology. The Sirens issue took place during the Equestrias equivalent to the Greek era, by which point Starswirl had created the mirror to the "Equestria Girls" 'verse, which the comics Reflections arc showed was designed after Luna's banishment, implying it takes place less then 1000 years ago. Queen Chrysalis' had her invade Tibucktu and Trot, which also seemed seem set in the Greek time period, 1000 and ''explicitly'' less then 1000 years ago. Such evidence that Equestria is only centuries vs Earths millennia past that time would explain why their culture ([[SchizoTech on average]]) seems closer to Renaissance era then present.

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* The Imposter Chrysalis never has their eyes visible. The eyes are the first part of their impersonation to fail, and given how they were constantly observed and could only get away with the trick once...
* Regarding the series chronology. The Sirens issue took place during the Equestrias equivalent to the Greek era, by which point Starswirl had created the mirror to the "Equestria Girls" 'verse, which the comics Reflections ''Reflections'' arc showed was designed after Luna's banishment, implying it takes place less then 1000 years ago. Queen Chrysalis' had her invade Tibucktu and Trot, which also seemed seem set in the Greek time period, 1000 and ''explicitly'' less then 1000 years ago. Such evidence that Equestria is only centuries vs Earths millennia past that time would explain why their culture ([[SchizoTech on average]]) seems closer to Renaissance era then present.
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* Sombra's smoke form being his true form explains why he regains his Pony form when nearing a Crystal-Heart-holding Spike: The Heart's close range weakens Sombra enough for an opening, which Shining and Cadance gladly use.

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* Sombra's smoke LivingShadow form being his true form explains why he regains his Pony form when nearing a Crystal-Heart-holding Spike: The Heart's close range weakens Sombra enough for an opening, which Shining and Cadance gladly use.
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* Sombra's smoke form being his true form explains why he regains his Pony form when nearing a Crystal-Heart-holding Spike--the Heart's close range weakens Sombra enough for an opening, which Shining and Cadance gladly use.

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* Sombra's smoke form being his true form explains why he regains his Pony form when nearing a Crystal-Heart-holding Spike--the Spike: The Heart's close range weakens Sombra enough for an opening, which Shining and Cadance gladly use.



* Sombra's smoke form's always big, but it's initially only eye-level with guys like Discord and Iron Will. But when his banishment finally ends in Season 3, said form's big enough to surround ''the whole Empire''. Did those 1,000 years give him plenty of time for a NextTierPowerUp? [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice Job Breaking It, Celestia and Luna]].

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* Sombra's smoke LivingShadow form's always big, but it's initially only eye-level with guys like Discord and Iron Will. But when his banishment finally ends in Season 3, said form's big enough to surround ''the whole Empire''.the '''''whole Empire'''''. Did those 1,000 years give him plenty of time for a NextTierPowerUp? [[NiceJobBreakingItHero Nice Job Breaking It, Celestia and Luna]].



*** Even worse if you recall he already had RealityWarper traits (making a whole kingdom vanish for 1,000 years, making {{Pocket Dimension}}s of stairs and traps, etc.). And even ''worse'': [[spoiler:his horn survived and has his spirit, meaning he may still get to fully use his new power someday.]]

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*** Even worse if you recall he already had RealityWarper traits (making a whole kingdom vanish for 1,000 years, making {{Pocket Dimension}}s of stairs and traps, etc.). And even ''worse'': [[spoiler:his '''''worse''''': [[spoiler:His horn survived and has his spirit, meaning he may still get to fully use his new power someday.]]
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* With Nightmare Moon's ego, there's a good chance she wove herself into many ponies' nightmares. This would go a long way toward explaining the origin of Nightmare Night as a folk tradition similar to Halloween, as well as the prevalence of her moon shadow as a motif for Nightmare Night decorations.
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** His origin also establishes him as an EvilCounterpart to Princess Cadance. Both were orphans, but whereas Cadance was loved by everyone where she lived, Sombra was neglected by everyone save for his one friend.
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* Regarding the series chronology. The Sirens issue took place during the Equestrias equivalent to the Greek era, by which point Starswirl had created the mirror to the "Equestria Girls" 'verse, which the comics Reflections arc showed was designed after Luna's banishment, implying it takes place less then 1000 years ago. Queen Chrysalis' had her invade Tibucktu and Trot, which also seemed seem set in the Greek time period, 1000 and ''explicitly'' less then 1000 years ago. Such evidence that Equestria is only centuries vs Earths millennia past that time would explain why their culture ([[SchizoTech on average]]) seems closer to Renaissance era then present.
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* The Imposter Chrysalis has their eyes visible. The eyes are the first part of their impersonation to fail, and given how they were constantly observed and could only get away with the trick once...
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* Come ''Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E13DoPrincessesDreamOfMagicSheep Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?'', it's confirmed on the show how much regret Luna has over her deeds as Nightmare Moon. Given how little Nightmare Moon did on the show or its flashbacks, this can come off as overblown. Factor in what she did in this continuity (trapping the Nyx in an AndIMustScream and inflicting nightmares on ponykind for ''1000 years''), it not only seems more proportionate, but makes Luna's [[ThePenance self-inflicted punishment]] ([[spoiler:having the Tantabus trap her in nightmares every night]]) seem karmic [[spoiler:until it got out of hand]].

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* Come ''Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E13DoPrincessesDreamOfMagicSheep ''[[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E13DoPrincessesDreamOfMagicSheep Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?'', Sheep?]]'', it's confirmed on the show how much regret Luna has over her deeds as Nightmare Moon. Given how little Nightmare Moon did on the show or its flashbacks, this can come off as overblown. Factor in what she did in this continuity (trapping the Nyx in an AndIMustScream and inflicting nightmares on ponykind for ''1000 years''), it not only seems more proportionate, but makes Luna's [[ThePenance self-inflicted punishment]] ([[spoiler:having the Tantabus trap her in nightmares every night]]) seem karmic [[spoiler:until it got out of hand]].
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* Come ''Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS5E13DoPrincessesDreamOfMagicSheep Do Princesses Dream of Magic Sheep?'', it's confirmed on the show how much regret Luna has over her deeds as Nightmare Moon. Given how little Nightmare Moon did on the show or its flashbacks, this can come off as overblown. Factor in what she did in this continuity (trapping the Nyx in an AndIMustScream and inflicting nightmares on ponykind for ''1000 years''), it not only seems more proportionate, but makes Luna's [[ThePenance self-inflicted punishment]] ([[spoiler:having the Tantabus trap her in nightmares every night]]) seem karmic [[spoiler:until it got out of hand]].



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** Given how soundly Celestia bested the changelings last time, there is a list of highly possible reasons why she was caught off guard. 1), she might not have known they had escaped their [[SealedEvilInACan imprisonment]] (they would have had good reason to keep a low profile afterward). 2). she didn't think they would [[NeverRecycleYourSchemes reuse their previous, failed, invasion plan]], And 3), she figured she could defeat them easily enough if they did show up.


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** Given how soundly Celestia bested the changelings last time, there is a list of highly possible reasons why she was caught off guard. 1), she might not have known they had escaped their [[SealedEvilInACan imprisonment]] (they would have had good reason to keep a low profile afterward). 2). 2), she didn't think they would [[NeverRecycleYourSchemes reuse their previous, failed, invasion plan]], And 3), she figured she could defeat them easily enough if they did show up.

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