History Fridge / MetalGearSolidV

** Venom Snake being unable to understand Russian without a translator while [[spoiler:Big Boss spoke it fluently throughout the entirety of the events of ''Metal Gear Solid 3''.]] This idea is discussed further down the page.

** A very obscure one. During the scene where Venom enters the Quarantine Platform, Venom says that there's a very sweet smell. In an optional radio conversation in ''MGS3'' with The Boss, [[spoiler:soon-to-be-Big Boss says that he has absolutely no sense of smell.]]

*** This same phenomenon occurs with several other characters as well, including [[spoiler:Kaz upon his rescue and later the Boss AI pod.]]

** Venom Snake being unable to understand Russian without a translator while [[spoiler:Big Boss spoke it fluently throughout the entirety of the events of Metal Gear Solid 3.]] This idea is discussed further down the page.

** Immediately before this, [[spoiler:The Mammal Pod]] also greets Snake with "Jack?...[[spoiler:No, you're not...]]". Of course [[spoiler:it would know he isn't the original Big Boss - it's not only a machine, but one with The Boss' personality.]]

* Ocelot and Snake use a DNA test to [[spoiler: disprove that Eli was involved in Les Enfantes Terrible]], but the test was inconclusive because [[spoiler: you ''aren't'' the real Big Boss.]]
** [[spoiler: This would also explain why the Genome Project failed...]]
*** [[spoiler: Except that was started up in the days following the recovery of the ''real'' Big Boss' remains from Zanzibarland, and the Patriots would presumably have had no interest in seeing it fail]].

* Ever decided to look at your reflection in the ACC at night? [[spoiler: [[TomatoInTheMirror You knew who you were from the start]].]]

* At the end of The Truth: [[spoiler: Ishmael reveals himself, gets on a motorcycle, and starts smoking cigars. REAL cigars. Note how Venom/Ahab only ever smoked Phantom Cigars.]]

* As anonymous in [=4Chan=] pointed out; [[spoiler: [[http://i.imgur.com/sM7dxU5.png Skull Face still got his revenge by keeping Big Boss and Zero apart.]]]] It greatly summarizes the nature of human conflict: "[[PoorCommunicationKills Maybe words that kill are the ones we never get to say.]]"

* Ocelot discusses secret Soviet research on psychics to Venom. [[spoiler:The latter says he does not believe in the supernatural. This is not something Big Boss would say.]]
* At one point Huey and Snake discuss Dr. Clark. [[spoiler: Snake claims not to know the name where the real Big Boss would know that it's Para Medic's real name.]]

* Why don't the wandering mother base soldiers recognize Big Boss but do recognize Love Deterrence and BB's box? If you look closely at the [[http://images.akamai.steamusercontent.com/ugc/366280462624412229/208A2A0AAD96831BA86BF7CA3B1CD3A963D23259/ eyes]] of the wandering soldiers they resemble the eyes of someone with cataracts. The reason they're hostile to you is that they literally can't make out the facial features of BB at a distance but they can see someone hiding in the box and recognize Love Deterrance from the Peace Day concert and they've only survived that long on the battlefield by treating every other person as a hostile.

* Despite being hailed as the "legendary soldier", Venom Snake's combat rating is just A+. Many of the soldiers he can recruit surpass him. [[spoiler:This is likely in part because he isn't the real Big Boss]].
** [[spoiler: The one flaw in that is that in ''VideoGame/MetalGearSolidPeaceWalker'', Big Boss himself was treated the same.]]
** [[spoiler: The brilliance is that neither is the absolute best. The legend of Big Boss is a construct greater than the two individuals that formed his identity. The Medic was badass enough to become as good as Naked Snake, and the argument can be made that eventually Solid Snake would surpass both.]]
** A+ is the SNAKE standard. Anyone who gets an S in combat ''managed to be better than Venom Snake''. Same way anyone who gets an S in R&D managed to be better than Huey.
** S rank is the SOLID Snake standard. Given he beat Venom Snake [[spoiler: and the real Big Boss]] in MG 1 and 2, the existence of higher combat ranks in and of itself could be seen as FridgeBrilliance for their eventual downfall at the hand of a Foxhound rookie sent in against impossible odds.

* The model for Snake sitting in the ACC is identical to the model used for Snake sitting in Morpho's chopper in Ground Zeroes. [[spoiler: The only thing that is missing is that Venom Snake isn't smoking a cigar like Big Boss was.]]
* The first time you meet [[spoiler: Huey,]] he takes a moment to stare at you as if in confused disbelief. While it's possible that he's in disbelief you actually came to rescue him, [[spoiler: another possibility is that he doesn't fully recognize you. Because you're not the Big Boss that he remembers.]]

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* Question Number One: Why don't you use fulton balloons to extract YOURSELF anymore? Semi-justified by the new countermeasures against fulton extraction and dangerous weather conditions, but effectively a wasted solution for when you're unspotted but relatively surrounded by enemies. Especially when you need to escape from the Skulls on your own, who are far more dangerous than fulton extracting in a dust storm!
** You're still Big Boss, the World's Greatest Soldier. Tieing your life to a balloon is likely seen as unnecessary risk compared to at least trying to flee. Likewise the Skulls always fight in mist which drastically lowers success rate. It'd be pretty uncharacteristic of Big Boss to look at even the Skulls and say "Yeah, I'll flip a coin on a 50% chance of surviving a balloon trip just so I don't have to face them." Likewise, if you NEED to use the fulton to escape the Skulls, you're likely already injured which lowers the chance even further.
** Technically you were never able to fulton yourself in Peace Walker. It was just the game's way of ending the mission. You do hear Snake fulton himself if you decide to abort the mission.
** I say because unspotted is always a temporary condition. There's always a chance that Snake can be spotted at any point from the time he attaches the balloon, to getting retrieved by the helicopter. Enemies can and will notice someone attached to a balloon floating away. The fast takeoff after attaching to enemies is a break from reality as can be seen in the Pooyan missions from Peace Walker where the balloons drift up relatively slowly. "Hey, look at that. Shoot it!" "Waaaaaaaaaaaaagh~!" TIME PARADOX.
* Why can't Venom Snake understand Russian, when in [=MGS3=] his Russian is noted as superb by a native Russian speaker? Ocelot explains its because of the shrapnel lodged in Snake's head. [[spoiler: The real reason is that Venom Snake is not Big Boss. He is the MSF medic that was with Big Boss during Ground Zeros, thus he probably has never been taught to speak Russian! Not to mention that Ocelot himself isn't fond of speaking Russian either, as it reminds him of the pre-Soviet decadent court of the Czars.]]
* How did [[spoiler:Strangelove die inside the Hybrid Pod, claiming it was unable to be opened from the inside,]] when Snake very clearly gets in and out of AI Pods easily by himself in ''Peace Walker''?
** Even assuming that Strangelove isn't as physically capable as Big Boss, it's rather possible that [[spoiler:it was Huey's tampering.]]
** You have to keep in mind that Snake wasn't able to get into the AI pods until AFTER he damaged the hatches on top of them while the weapon they were attached to was disabled. So unless one were to use a weapon to shoot up the hatch beforehand, it's probably impossible for any human to open them up with their bare hands.
*** This still Doesnt Hold water. in peace walker, it is EXPLICITLY shown the AI pods can unlock/open their access hatches themselves.( in the cut-scene IMMEDIATELY before Snake starts ripping out the Mammal pods Memory circuits/ Storage drives) the Pod is shown to still be at LEAST partially functional, at the very worst enough of its software is still loaded for the Boss Simulation to be at least partially functional/Coherent.[[spoiler: why wasn't Strangelove able to give it an override order, use a manual override or ASK it to pop the hatch?]]
*** my reasoning for the point above, is that [[spoiler: The most revolutionary feature of the Boss AI, from a Cybernetics/AI science standpoint, was it could not just speak SPONTANEOUSLY instead of just using pre-recorded messages, but react and respond to human/English speech instead of needing orders/ instructions to be programmed in/ or responding simply to pre-programmed trigger phases, like a General giving His/Her soldiers orders.]]
* At no point does anyone attempt to come up with an alternative way to communicate with Quiet - once she fails to speak English to them, at no point does it occur to Snake, Miller or Ocelot that maybe there are other languages she could speak ([[spoiler:Code Talker]] is the only one to think of this, and even then he doesn't share his knowledge with anyone else, nor does it occur to anyone else) or could be taught. No non-verbal communication methods are mentioned, despite the fact that the iDroid could easily be adapted to work as an assistive communication device, or a sign-language interpreter could be brought in to help her. The most logic-bending element of this is Miller insisting that bringing Quiet out onto the field would be dangerous because she can't communicate with Snake verbally, despite morse code being invented for this exact reason. Why the fresh hell did Quiet have to [[spoiler:sacrifice herself in order to save Snake]] when she could have been given the tools to type "SOS" at them?
** Probably because [[spoiler:there was a sandstorm raging. Quiet could've tried to guide Pequod with Morse code, but there's always a small possibility that Pequod doesn't know Morse code. Unlikely, seeing as he's a trained helicopter pilot, but possible.]]
** This is false though, they DID try to communicate with her in other ways. Ocelot explicitly tells you that they even tried to get her to write things down, and she refused that.
*** This still doesn't justify the comment about there apparently being no way for her to communicate on the battlefield (again, there's presumably morse code that they can use, even if it's purely for emergencies) and because of this, it still makes [[spoiler:her death]] incredibly contrived. It's even more contrived considering that they have translators on-base, and apparently none of them can aid Pequod in understanding her when [[spoiler:she speaks Navajo]] - he ends up insisting that she ''has'' to speak English, even though the resources back at Mother Base should have prevented that from being necessary.
*** There was clearly radio interference when trying to communicate with Pequod, much less MB, and enemy forces all over. No time to translate, or even to explain who she is (as she says). And as noted elsewhere on this page, she may refuse to explicitly communicate so they can't find any way to force info out of her. And that's assuming Pequod can recognize Navajo and then relay what she said back to base, where they'd have to get a radio to Code Talker. All in the minute or two of the cutscene. It's just not practical.
* Ishmael nearly collides with responding fire engines in Cyprus due to driving on the right side of the road. Just seems like a heat-of-the-moment lack of concern for driving on the middle of the road? Nope, [[spoiler:he's an American driving in a left-hand traffic country!]]
* Using the chopper minigun on Soviet troops in Afghanistan could be considered Hoisted By His Own Petard when you remember that in the real Soviet-Afghan War this same tactic was a Soviet staple, hence why in real life and in-game U.S intelligence concentrated on providing the Mujahadeen with a portable Surface to Air missle launcher (in real life the FIM-92 Stinger, "the Honey Bee" in-game).
* During the opening sequence Quiet reports that she has not yet taken care of the Big Boss, because the patient in the next bed saw her face. She then comes over to shoot the player, rather than Ishmael that was in the next bed. [[spoiler: After learning the twist it all makes sense, she was never there to kill the player, but the real Big Boss, the player was the mentioned unfortunate witness in the next bed.]]

* [[spoiler: Remember those soldiers who willingly let Snake kills them to stop the parasite. At first it looks like a beautiful example of UndyingLoyalty, until you realize that many of them are brainwashed to be fanatically loyal. Under normal circumstances, there would certainly be more resistance]]

* Storytelling-wise, Vocal Cord Parasite follows the basic WeaponOfMassDestruction cliche. But the reason it is shocking to most players because [[spoiler:its ''first'' widespread deployment is not aimed the 'outsiders' (like what happened in VideoGame/ModernWarfare, for example). Many players weren't expecting themselves to be subjected to its successful attack. Knowing that they cannot stop the worst is just the cherry on top]].

* Storytelling-wise, Vocal Cord Parasite follows the basic WeaponOfMassDestruction cliche. But the reason it is shocking to most players because [[spoiler:its ''first'' widespread deployment is not aimed the 'outsiders' (like what happened in VideoGame/ModernWarfare, for example). Many players weren't expecting themselves to be subjected to the successful attack]].

* Storytelling-wise, Vocal Cord Parasite follows the basic WeaponOfMassDestruction cliche. But the reason it is shocking to most players because [[spoiler:its ''first'' target is not the outsiders, but the players' organization directly]].

** [[spoiler:Played horrifyingly straight: it's a trained contagious parasite colony from primordial ages that can kill people who say a trigger phase. One of ''thousands'' of trigger phrases, encompassing most of, if not all of, an ''entire language'']]. However, by Revengeance the weapon isn't as apocalyptic as it was in the 1980s.

** [[spoiler:Played horrifyingly straight: it's a trained contagious parasite colony from primordial ages that can kill people who say a trigger phase. One of ''thousands'' of trigger phrases, encompassing most of not all of an ''entire language'']]. However, by Revengeance the weapon isn't as apocalyptic as it was in the 1980s.

** [[spoiler:Played horrifyingly straight: it's a trained contagious parasite colony from primordial ages that can kill people who say a trigger phase. One of ''thousands'' of trigger phrases]]. However, by Revengeance the weapon isn't as apocalyptic as it was in the 1980s.

* The liberal use of DutchAngle, JitterCam, and TheOner in cutscenes is unusual, even for the already unusual MGS series. It gives off the feeling that there's always a physical cameraman observing all the events, like a permanent POVCam. [[spoiler: When TheReveal happens, during which everybody looks at the cameraman to show that there is a third person in the room, this is ''exactly'' what all the camera effects lead up to.]]

** At the end of the true ending [[spoiler: where Big Boss departs to continue the big story of Metal Gear]], all the stylistic camera moves immediately cease, and return to the all-seeing non-moving normal cut camera shots of other MGS games. [[spoiler: With the truth revealed, there is no need to hide it anymore, and the camera of the game switches to the style of other games to match up with them because the game is over and the story moves to the other games. The mystery is over.]]

* The liberal use of DutchAngle, JitterCam, and TheOner in cutscenes is unusual, even for the already unusual MGS series. It gives off the feeling that there's always a physical cameraman observing all the events. [[spoiler: When TheReveal happens, during which everybody looks at the cameraman to show that there is a third person in the room, this is ''exactly'' what all the camera effects lead up to.]]

* Tranquilize Ocelot in the head during the Mother Base tutorial, and [[CallBack he starts muttering about the La-li-lu-le-lo, as well as a part of a certain train line.]] But another set of words acts as foreshadowing, when he mutters about, "Two plus two equals five," besides the obvious NineteenEightyFour reference. [[spoiler: Then he reveals in the post-true ending tapes that he knows the methods of Doublethink, the capability of hypnotizing and manipulating his own mind and memories. Shooting Ocelot full of tranquilizer drugs was accidentally unhinging his own self-brainwashing, but he was adamant enough to forcefully believe it for the sake of his mission that he ''actively used doublethink to fortify his mental thoughts.'']]

* Some people have complained that the gameplay and missions of Metal Gear Solid V are much more action-oriented than previous games in the series. [[spoiler: You're not playing as Snake, the legendary stealth infiltrator. The Medic was just a regular soldier before he became Venom Snake. He's a highly skilled soldier, but because of his background, he'd likely have a more combat-focused view of the battlefield than the real Big Boss.

** This is seen actively in Mission 22 and any other FOB invasion, the invaders now can only take one platform and the rest of the base gets blockaded.

* A thought I had while playing: You gain heroism for dealing with soldiers non-lethally, but what if this isn't for the obvious moral reasons? Imagine you're a Russian soldier tasked with guarding a supply depot, when out of nowhere a dart hits you in the neck. The next thing you remember, you wake up several hours later along with the entire security detail, only to realize that every single container, vehicle, weapon, prisoner, document, and shiny object in the whole base that wasn't bolted to the floor is missing. You'd probably tell everyone you know about it.