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* Lady Jaye is a bastard daughter of the [=McCullen=] clan, which Destro is the head of, which means she has the taint of the Old Ones' VillainousLineage. Suddenly, all her [[NonLethalWarfare improbable survivals]] and [[SuperWeight extreme physical feats]] in the series take on a new and more frightening significance...
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* Lady Jaye is a bastard daughter of the [=McCullen=] clan, which Destro is the head of, which means she has the taint of the Old Ones' VillainousLineage. Suddenly, all her [[NonLethalWarfare improbable survivals]] and [[SuperWeight [[JustForFun/SuperWeight extreme physical feats]] in the series take on a new and more frightening significance...
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* Zartan fluctuates between caring for Zarana's well-being to barely caring what happens to her. This could be written off to bad writing, different writers, etc. However his initial filecard said he suffered from schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder, while the fiction has even gone so far as to state he no longer remembers his original identity or personality. His mood, thoughts and feelings are highly inconsistent so his attitudes towards even his family would also be inconsistent.
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* Zartan fluctuates between caring for Zarana's well-being to barely caring what happens to her. This could be written off to bad writing, different writers, etc. However his initial filecard said he suffered from schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder, while the fiction has even gone so far as to state he no longer remembers his original identity or personality. His mood, thoughts and feelings are highly inconsistent so his attitudes towards even his family would also be inconsistent.inconsistent.
!! FridgeHorror:
* When Scarlett and the [[EvilTwin Duke android]] fight in "Synthoid Conspiracy". Imagine if they were real people: She knows he's a fake by then, but it's still a young woman ''beaten up and almost killed'' by someone who looks, walks and talks ''exactly'' like the man she loves, down to the smallest detail. Of course, she's saved before he does any permanent damage to her, but even so, what does that (realistically) do to her psychologically? Will she ever feel safe with Duke again?
* "Glamour Girls," when Cobra kidnap auditioning young model hopefuls to feed to a latter-day [[LifeDrinker Countess Bathory]] expy. This is obviously pretty bad in itself, but if one ignores the fantastic life-draining aspect, the episode reads ''very'' much like Cobra are running a human trafficking ring.
* [[DarkActionGirl Zarana's]] life might double as this. See the [[TearJerker/GIJoeARealAmericanHero Tear Jerker page]] for more details.
* Extensive Enterprises. GI Joe ''knows'' this massively corrupt MegaCorp is run by Cobra, but they apparently can't shut it down. Only two explanations for this are possible. Either Washington is so corrupt in this setting that the government protects a company that ''finances domestic terrorism.'' Or, even worse: Cobra is so ''powerful'' that they can lean on the government to stay out of their business.
** That last bit must be true, anyway. Cobra semi-regularly ''launches full-blown military attacks'' on domestic targets in the CONUS, with ''air support and armor'', and the government is by all accounts either unable or unwilling to stop them. So, imagine what a CrapsackWorld this universe must be: The ''United States'' is subject to air raids by an NGOSuperpower of fascist terrorists, like Yemen or Pakistan are to American bombings in real life. And then you remember their world ''also'' has [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers giant robots from another planet]] ''and'' [[WesternAnimation/{{Inhumanoids}} giant monsters from the center of the earth]] running around...
* The Cobra Academy, which turns out the elite of Cobra's troops. It's run by a dishonorably discharged ex-Marine who ''is'' an exemplary soldier and brilliant officer, but who was run out of the Corps because he is also a bully and {{Sadist}} who injured, abused and extorted his own classmates as a cadet. Now he's in charge...
* Really, a lot of Cobra's cartoonish villainy becomes this if one stops to think about it. For example, having unarmed captives fight wild beasts for entertainment? Within the limits of the show (where, of course, nothing graphic happens) this makes for an exciting scene; taken seriously, it means that the Cobra leaders are depraved sadists on par with the nastier Roman emperors, who enjoy seeing people horribly mauled and eaten alive.
* Lady Jaye is a bastard daughter of the [=McCullen=] clan, which Destro is the head of, which means she has the taint of the Old Ones' VillainousLineage. Suddenly, all her [[NonLethalWarfare improbable survivals]] and [[SuperWeight extreme physical feats]] in the series take on a new and more frightening significance...
* In the animated movie, the reaction from various characters of seeing Cobra Commander after his exposure to a spore pod.
* Also in the movie, what all the Joes captured by the "trees" may have gone through, could those trees have had some kind of anaesthetic effect, like when a close up of Scarlet later is shown with her eyes closed, or could they, especially Roadblock's detachment from earlier, have been awake the whole time?
* In "The Traitor" Duke schemes to sabotage large amounts of Cobra's arsenal by letting them have the Joe team's secret armor formula, which he knows is unstable and thus unreliable. A lot of Cobra equipment is ruined, which is cool and all, but what if Cobra actually found a way to ''stabilize'' the armor formula?
* In the third season of ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', which takes place in 2006, the one off character "Old Snake" is revealed to be Cobra Commander himself. Everything he's done and he's a KarmaHoudini.
* Cobra launches a televised [[{{Telethon}} Cobrathon]] to finance the construction of their supercomputer. The broadcast can't be stopped and ''people actually donated their money''. It went so well that they actually reach their 5 billions dollars goal, at least until G.I. Joe put a stop to it. Even among criminals, what kind of crazed maniacs give their money away to a terrorist organization like this?
!! FridgeHorror:
* When Scarlett and the [[EvilTwin Duke android]] fight in "Synthoid Conspiracy". Imagine if they were real people: She knows he's a fake by then, but it's still a young woman ''beaten up and almost killed'' by someone who looks, walks and talks ''exactly'' like the man she loves, down to the smallest detail. Of course, she's saved before he does any permanent damage to her, but even so, what does that (realistically) do to her psychologically? Will she ever feel safe with Duke again?
* "Glamour Girls," when Cobra kidnap auditioning young model hopefuls to feed to a latter-day [[LifeDrinker Countess Bathory]] expy. This is obviously pretty bad in itself, but if one ignores the fantastic life-draining aspect, the episode reads ''very'' much like Cobra are running a human trafficking ring.
* [[DarkActionGirl Zarana's]] life might double as this. See the [[TearJerker/GIJoeARealAmericanHero Tear Jerker page]] for more details.
* Extensive Enterprises. GI Joe ''knows'' this massively corrupt MegaCorp is run by Cobra, but they apparently can't shut it down. Only two explanations for this are possible. Either Washington is so corrupt in this setting that the government protects a company that ''finances domestic terrorism.'' Or, even worse: Cobra is so ''powerful'' that they can lean on the government to stay out of their business.
** That last bit must be true, anyway. Cobra semi-regularly ''launches full-blown military attacks'' on domestic targets in the CONUS, with ''air support and armor'', and the government is by all accounts either unable or unwilling to stop them. So, imagine what a CrapsackWorld this universe must be: The ''United States'' is subject to air raids by an NGOSuperpower of fascist terrorists, like Yemen or Pakistan are to American bombings in real life. And then you remember their world ''also'' has [[WesternAnimation/TheTransformers giant robots from another planet]] ''and'' [[WesternAnimation/{{Inhumanoids}} giant monsters from the center of the earth]] running around...
* The Cobra Academy, which turns out the elite of Cobra's troops. It's run by a dishonorably discharged ex-Marine who ''is'' an exemplary soldier and brilliant officer, but who was run out of the Corps because he is also a bully and {{Sadist}} who injured, abused and extorted his own classmates as a cadet. Now he's in charge...
* Really, a lot of Cobra's cartoonish villainy becomes this if one stops to think about it. For example, having unarmed captives fight wild beasts for entertainment? Within the limits of the show (where, of course, nothing graphic happens) this makes for an exciting scene; taken seriously, it means that the Cobra leaders are depraved sadists on par with the nastier Roman emperors, who enjoy seeing people horribly mauled and eaten alive.
* Lady Jaye is a bastard daughter of the [=McCullen=] clan, which Destro is the head of, which means she has the taint of the Old Ones' VillainousLineage. Suddenly, all her [[NonLethalWarfare improbable survivals]] and [[SuperWeight extreme physical feats]] in the series take on a new and more frightening significance...
* In the animated movie, the reaction from various characters of seeing Cobra Commander after his exposure to a spore pod.
* Also in the movie, what all the Joes captured by the "trees" may have gone through, could those trees have had some kind of anaesthetic effect, like when a close up of Scarlet later is shown with her eyes closed, or could they, especially Roadblock's detachment from earlier, have been awake the whole time?
* In "The Traitor" Duke schemes to sabotage large amounts of Cobra's arsenal by letting them have the Joe team's secret armor formula, which he knows is unstable and thus unreliable. A lot of Cobra equipment is ruined, which is cool and all, but what if Cobra actually found a way to ''stabilize'' the armor formula?
* In the third season of ''WesternAnimation/TheTransformers'', which takes place in 2006, the one off character "Old Snake" is revealed to be Cobra Commander himself. Everything he's done and he's a KarmaHoudini.
* Cobra launches a televised [[{{Telethon}} Cobrathon]] to finance the construction of their supercomputer. The broadcast can't be stopped and ''people actually donated their money''. It went so well that they actually reach their 5 billions dollars goal, at least until G.I. Joe put a stop to it. Even among criminals, what kind of crazed maniacs give their money away to a terrorist organization like this?
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* FridgeLogic- The entire character of Lifeline! Why the hell is a pacifist in the army fighting against terrorists?! Every time he spouts off things like: "There are non-violent ways to solve this conflict." and "I can't condone violence" this trouper just wants to scream, "Stupid, THESE ARE TERRORISTS! YOU'RE IN THE ARMY!! WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DO THERE?!" OK, you could argue he's a doctor, but in that case why he isn't he in the barracks tending to the sick and wounded like the army doctor does?
* Also, why is his family giving him a hard time? Yes they're pacifists too, but he's not a soldier, he's a doctor! He only helps SAVE LIVES! Would they rather the wounded just be left to die?! Nice Christian family!
* FridgeBrilliance- Zartan fluctuates between caring for Zarana's well-being to barely caring what happens to her. This could be written off to bad writing, different writers, etc. However his initial filecard said he suffered from schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder, while the fiction has even gone so far as to state he no longer remembers his original identity or personality. His mood, thoughts and feelings are highly inconsistent so his attitudes towards even his family would also be inconsistent.
* Also, why is his family giving him a hard time? Yes they're pacifists too, but he's not a soldier, he's a doctor! He only helps SAVE LIVES! Would they rather the wounded just be left to die?! Nice Christian family!
* FridgeBrilliance- Zartan fluctuates between caring for Zarana's well-being to barely caring what happens to her. This could be written off to bad writing, different writers, etc. However his initial filecard said he suffered from schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder, while the fiction has even gone so far as to state he no longer remembers his original identity or personality. His mood, thoughts and feelings are highly inconsistent so his attitudes towards even his family would also be inconsistent.
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*FridgeLogic- The entire character of Lifeline! Why the hell is a pacifist in the army fighting against terrorists?! Every time he spouts off things like: "There are non-violent ways to solve this conflict." and "I can't condone violence" this trouper just wants to scream, "Stupid, THESE ARE TERRORISTS! YOU'RE IN THE ARMY!! WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DO THERE?!" OK, you could argue he's a doctor, but in that case why he isn't he in the barracks tending to the sick and wounded like the army doctor does?
* Also, why is his family giving him a hard time? Yes they're pacifists too, but he's not a soldier, he's a doctor! He only helps SAVE LIVES! Would they rather the wounded just be left to die?! Nice Christian family!
* FridgeBrilliance-Zartan fluctuates between caring for Zarana's well-being to barely caring what happens to her. This could be written off to bad writing, different writers, etc. However his initial filecard said he suffered from schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder, while the fiction has even gone so far as to state he no longer remembers his original identity or personality. His mood, thoughts and feelings are highly inconsistent so his attitudes towards even his family would also be inconsistent.
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* Also, why is his family giving him a hard time? Yes they're pacifists too, but he's not a soldier, he's a doctor! He only helps SAVE LIVES! Would they rather the wounded just be left to die?! Nice Christian family!
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* Also, why is his family giving him a hard time? Yes they're pacifists too, but he's not a soldier, he's a doctor! He only helps SAVE LIVES! Would they rather the wounded just be left to die?! Nice Christian family!
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* Also, why is his family giving him a hard time? Yes they're pacifists too, but he's not a soldier, he's a doctor! He only helps SAVE LIVES! Would they rather the wounded just be left to die?! Nice Christian family!family!
* FridgeBrilliance- Zartan fluctuates between caring for Zarana's well-being to barely caring what happens to her. This could be written off to bad writing, different writers, etc. However his initial filecard said he suffered from schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder, while the fiction has even gone so far as to state he no longer remembers his original identity or personality. His mood, thoughts and feelings are highly inconsistent so his attitudes towards even his family would also be inconsistent.
* FridgeBrilliance- Zartan fluctuates between caring for Zarana's well-being to barely caring what happens to her. This could be written off to bad writing, different writers, etc. However his initial filecard said he suffered from schizophrenia and multiple personality disorder, while the fiction has even gone so far as to state he no longer remembers his original identity or personality. His mood, thoughts and feelings are highly inconsistent so his attitudes towards even his family would also be inconsistent.
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* Also, why is his family giving him a hard time? Yes they're pacifists too, but he's not a solider, soldier, he's a doctor! He only helps SAVE LIVES! Would they rather the wounded just be left to die?! Nice Christian family!
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* FridgeLogic- The entire character of Lifeline! Why the hell is a pacifist in the army fighting against terrorists?! Every time he spouts off things like: "There are non-violent ways to solve this conflict." and "I can;t condone violence" this trouper just wants to scream, "Stupid, THESE ARE TERRORISTS! YOU'RE IN THE ARMY!! WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DO THERE?!" OK, you could argue he's a doctor, but in that case why he isn't he in the barracks tending to the sick and wounded like the army doctor does?
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* FridgeLogic- The entire character of Lifeline! Why the hell is a pacifist in the army fighting against terrorists?! Every time he spouts off things like: "There are non-violent ways to solve this conflict." and "I can;t can't condone violence" this trouper just wants to scream, "Stupid, THESE ARE TERRORISTS! YOU'RE IN THE ARMY!! WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DO THERE?!" OK, you could argue he's a doctor, but in that case why he isn't he in the barracks tending to the sick and wounded like the army doctor does?
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*FridgeLogic- The entire character of Lifeline! Why the hell is a pacifist in the army fighting against terrorists?! Every time he spouts off things like: "There are non-violent ways to solve this conflict." and "I can;t condone violence" this trouper just wants to scream, "Stupid, THESE ARE TERRORISTS! YOU'RE IN THE ARMY!! WHAT DO YOU THINK THEY DO THERE?!" OK, you could argue he's a doctor, but in that case why he isn't he in the barracks tending to the sick and wounded like the army doctor does?
*Also, why is his family giving him a hard time? Yes they're pacifists too, but he's not a solider, he's a doctor! He only helps SAVE LIVES! Would they rather the wounded just be left to die?! Nice Christian family!
*Also, why is his family giving him a hard time? Yes they're pacifists too, but he's not a solider, he's a doctor! He only helps SAVE LIVES! Would they rather the wounded just be left to die?! Nice Christian family!
