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* It is very subtle, but Nobby briefly panics when being questioned about his father. Then he talks about his unhappy childhood in a rather nonchalant way, and the book plays it for laughs, but [[FridgeHorror the fridge horror]] kicks in when you know that his father used to break his arms, and it is even ''stated'' that he left him some scars.

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* If slavery is illegal in Ankh-Morpork, and this novel establishes that you can be a magically-created lifeform that's incapable of speech and still be protected from enslavement by this stricture, then why are imps (which could ''always'' talk) still being bought and sold for use in {{Magitek}} cameras, tape recorders and [=PDA=]s in so many books to follow?
* If Angua has to explain to Cheery what a golem is early in the book, how can Cheery later reminisce about having seen them working with arsenic in the Alchemists' Guild in Pseudopolis?
** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.

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* It is very subtle, but Nobby briefly panics when being questioned about his father. Then he talks about his unhappy childhood in a rather nonchalant way, and the book plays it for laughs, but [[FridgeHorror the fridge horror]] kicks in when you know that his father used to break his arms, and it is even ''stated'' that he left him some scars. \n\n!!FridgeLogic\n\n* If slavery is illegal in Ankh-Morpork, and this novel establishes that you can be a magically-created lifeform that's incapable of speech and still be protected from enslavement by this stricture, then why are imps (which could ''always'' talk) still being bought and sold for use in {{Magitek}} cameras, tape recorders and [=PDA=]s in so many books to follow?\n* If Angua has to explain to Cheery what a golem is early in the book, how can Cheery later reminisce about having seen them working with arsenic in the Alchemists' Guild in Pseudopolis?\n** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.


** [[WildMassGuessing You may have to pay them a wage equivalent to the cost of film.]]
** Because the imps never complained.
** If I recall correctly, imps are created magically (or via occult, I'm hazy on the details) to perform their assigned duties. Slavery would mean taking your free will away from you, whereas imps follow commands out of their own volition. [[WildMassGuessing I think]].
** Which is an interestingly different take on LetsMeetTheMeat!



** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.
** Or she'd seen them in Pseudopolis, but had confused them with trolls at the time. Once Cheery'd had the nature of golems explained to her and had gotten a better look at ''actual'' trolls, she realized her mistake.

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** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.
** Or she'd seen them in Pseudopolis, but had confused them with trolls at the time. Once Cheery'd had the nature of golems explained to her and had gotten a better look at ''actual'' trolls, she realized her mistake.
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* The revelation that the golems are morally-culpable individuals rather than clay machines, possessed of real feelings and (as ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' would verify) a soul, isn't as much of a surprise if you consider the testimony of the one character who'd know '''for sure''' if they're people or not. In his conversation with the late Mr. Hopkinson, Death himself refers to the bread-expert's attacker as the man's "murderer" rather than his "killer", and soulless machines can't commit murder. Death's surely collected the souls of destroyed golems before.

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* The revelation that the golems are morally-culpable individuals rather than clay machines, possessed of real feelings and (as ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' ''Literature/GoingPostal'' would verify) a soul, isn't as much of a surprise if you consider the testimony of the one character who'd know '''for sure''' if they're people or not. In his conversation with the late Mr. Hopkinson, Death himself refers to the bread-expert's attacker as the man's "murderer" rather than his "killer", and soulless machines can't commit murder. Death's surely collected the souls of destroyed golems before.



* Way back in ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', the dragon king's [[spoiler:actually a dragon queen]] demand for maidens to devour specified that they be of the highest social rank: a requirement that Wonse says has something to do with flavor. This makes perfect sense in retrospect, as [[spoiler: Dragon King of Arms has been manipulating the upper classes' marital selections for many, many centuries, and he never ''did'' specify '''in what respect''' he was trying to "improve the race". The blood-sucking S.O.B. may well have been breeding the nobility to have ''better flavor'' as victims, and the great dragons had caught onto this before they vanished!]]
* The Rats Chamber in the Patrician's Palace features a painted ceiling, in which rats dance in a ring with their tails intertwined at the center. Go read ''Discworld/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents'', and then re-think the implications of ''that'' image being displayed in a room where ruthless conspirators meet to plot domination over the city. [[spoiler: Have mind-controlling Rat Kings secretly ruled Ankh-Morpork in the past? Is '''that''' why its previous kings and Patricians kept going insane, and why they always allowed the city to remain such a rats'-paradise hellhole?]]
** add to this: During the events of ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', Vetinari was waited on by rats. He described the relationship as "...payment for services rendered." Specifically, he advised the Rats on how to seize the territory of the cell from the snakes and scorpions that had been tossed in with him. Admittedly, he suspects Skrp and the rest of his people spend a lot of time near the High-Energy Magic Building at the university, but were quite bright before then.

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* Way back in ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', ''Literature/GuardsGuards'', the dragon king's [[spoiler:actually a dragon queen]] demand for maidens to devour specified that they be of the highest social rank: a requirement that Wonse says has something to do with flavor. This makes perfect sense in retrospect, as [[spoiler: Dragon King of Arms has been manipulating the upper classes' marital selections for many, many centuries, and he never ''did'' specify '''in what respect''' he was trying to "improve the race". The blood-sucking S.O.B. may well have been breeding the nobility to have ''better flavor'' as victims, and the great dragons had caught onto this before they vanished!]]
* The Rats Chamber in the Patrician's Palace features a painted ceiling, in which rats dance in a ring with their tails intertwined at the center. Go read ''Discworld/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents'', ''Literature/TheAmazingMauriceAndHisEducatedRodents'', and then re-think the implications of ''that'' image being displayed in a room where ruthless conspirators meet to plot domination over the city. [[spoiler: Have mind-controlling Rat Kings secretly ruled Ankh-Morpork in the past? Is '''that''' why its previous kings and Patricians kept going insane, and why they always allowed the city to remain such a rats'-paradise hellhole?]]
** add to this: During the events of ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', ''Literature/GuardsGuards'', Vetinari was waited on by rats. He described the relationship as "...payment for services rendered." Specifically, he advised the Rats on how to seize the territory of the cell from the snakes and scorpions that had been tossed in with him. Admittedly, he suspects Skrp and the rest of his people spend a lot of time near the High-Energy Magic Building at the university, but were quite bright before then.



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* The golems created Meshugah because they believed a king would set them free. It didn't work, but the actual liberation of the golems is kick-started by Carrot, when he buys Dorfl and gives him to himself. Carrot is the rightful king of Ankh-Morpork. So, technically, a king ''did'' set the golems free -- just not the one they expected.



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* It is very subtle, but Nobby briefly panics when being questioned about his father. Then he talks about his unhappy childhood in a rather nonchalant way, and the book plays it for laughs, but [[FridgeHorror the fridge horror]] kicks in when you know that his father used to break his arms, and it is even ''stated'' that he left him some scars.


** Or she'd seen them in Pseudopolis, but had confused them with trolls at the time.

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** Or she'd seen them in Pseudopolis, but had confused them with trolls at the time. Once Cheery'd had the nature of golems explained to her and had gotten a better look at ''actual'' trolls, she realized her mistake.


** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.

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** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.them.
** Or she'd seen them in Pseudopolis, but had confused them with trolls at the time.



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* When Vimes confronts Dragon King of Arms in the book's final pages, Dragon believes Vimes came alone and never detects Dorfl's presence until Vimes calls him in. It's noted repeatedly throughout the book that golems have little to no scent beyond their clay and whatever they've been interacting with. Dorfl in particular smelling like the slaughterhouse he'd worked in. However, Dorfl had ''just'' come back out of the oven. He was fresh clay, a clean slate, and so had no scent that Dragon would find worth remarking on.


** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.
** For tropers who’ve served in uniform, it’s a reminder of how sometimes it was just easier to let a senior officer rabbit on rather than try to find a diplomatic way to say “heard all that before, sir”

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** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.
** For tropers who’ve served in uniform, it’s a reminder of how sometimes it was just easier to let a senior officer rabbit on rather than try to find a diplomatic way to say “heard all that before, sir”
them.


** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.

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** Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.them.
** For tropers who’ve served in uniform, it’s a reminder of how sometimes it was just easier to let a senior officer rabbit on rather than try to find a diplomatic way to say “heard all that before, sir”


* Way back in ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', the dragon King's demand for maidens to devour specified that they be of the highest social rank: a requirement that Wonse says has something to do with flavor. This makes perfect sense in retrospect, as [[spoiler: Dragon King of Arms has been manipulating the upper classes' marital selections for many, many centuries, and he never ''did'' specify '''in what respect''' he was trying to "improve the race". The blood-sucking S.O.B. may well have been breeding the nobility to have ''better flavor'' as victims, and the great dragons had caught onto this before they vanished!]]

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* Way back in ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', the dragon King's king's [[spoiler:actually a dragon queen]] demand for maidens to devour specified that they be of the highest social rank: a requirement that Wonse says has something to do with flavor. This makes perfect sense in retrospect, as [[spoiler: Dragon King of Arms has been manipulating the upper classes' marital selections for many, many centuries, and he never ''did'' specify '''in what respect''' he was trying to "improve the race". The blood-sucking S.O.B. may well have been breeding the nobility to have ''better flavor'' as victims, and the great dragons had caught onto this before they vanished!]]




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** add to this: During the events of ''Discworld/GuardsGuards'', Vetinari was waited on by rats. He described the relationship as "...payment for services rendered." Specifically, he advised the Rats on how to seize the territory of the cell from the snakes and scorpions that had been tossed in with him. Admittedly, he suspects Skrp and the rest of his people spend a lot of time near the High-Energy Magic Building at the university, but were quite bright before then.


* The revelation that the golems are morally-culpable individuals rather than clay machines, possessed of real feelings and (as ''Going Postal'' would verify) a soul, isn't as much of a surprise if you consider the testimony of the one character who'd know '''for sure''' if they're people or not. In his conversation with the late Mr. Hopkinson, Death himself refers to the bread-expert's attacker as the man's "murderer" rather than his "killer", and soulless machines can't commit murder. Death's surely collected the souls of destroyed golems before.

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* The revelation that the golems are morally-culpable individuals rather than clay machines, possessed of real feelings and (as ''Going Postal'' ''Discworld/GoingPostal'' would verify) a soul, isn't as much of a surprise if you consider the testimony of the one character who'd know '''for sure''' if they're people or not. In his conversation with the late Mr. Hopkinson, Death himself refers to the bread-expert's attacker as the man's "murderer" rather than his "killer", and soulless machines can't commit murder. Death's surely collected the souls of destroyed golems before.


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* If Angua has to explain to Cheery what a golem is early in the book, how can Cheery later reminisce about having seen them working with arsenic in the Alchemists' Guild in Pseudopolis?

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* If Angua has to explain to Cheery what a golem is early in the book, how can Cheery later reminisce about having seen them working with arsenic in the Alchemists' Guild in Pseudopolis?Pseudopolis?
**Could be that they just called them something different in Pseudopolis, and Cheery was just not familiar with the Ankh-morporkian term for them.


** Which is an interestingly different take on LetsMeetTheMeat!

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** Which is an interestingly different take on LetsMeetTheMeat!LetsMeetTheMeat!
* If Angua has to explain to Cheery what a golem is early in the book, how can Cheery later reminisce about having seen them working with arsenic in the Alchemists' Guild in Pseudopolis?

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