History Fridge / FateApocrypha

* [[LightNovel/FateZero Waver Velvet]] still went on to become Lord El-Melloi II even though the Fourth Grail War didn't happen. The FridgeBrilliance kicks in when you remember the paper he wrote (that was ridiculed by Kayneth, the first Lord El-Melloi) asserted that hard work and dedication could allow a magus to overcome the disadvantage of a limited lineage. From the look of it, he was right. Similarly, because the Fourth Grail War didn't happen, Kayneth presumably died in a way that left his Crest intact for transplantation in the next Lord El-Melloi. Seeing as Waver controls a Volumen Hydragyrum, we can assume who received the transplantation.

** In the Iliad, Achilles is described to be inhuman in mannerisms and unable to relate to anyone except Patroclus and Briseis, but in Apocrypha, he's a BoisterousBruiser BloodKnight. It makes sense, though, as this is his incarnation from the beginning years of the Trojan War, which he joined despite not being a part of the Pan-Hellenic Blood Oath because he thought it would be fun.

* Of course Mordred didn't manage to finish off Semiramis. Kairi Ordered her to "Kill the King". When Mordred did that in her Backstory, her victim still had enough life left to accomplish one last thing, as does Semiramis here.

** Above all, the part that screwed him most was actually his strong sense of honor robbing him of his armor both times - as stated, he gave up his armor in life to fulfill his vow of charity, even when he knew that Indra had basically come to rob him of it. In Apocrypha, he wanted to win against Siegfried the Servant, not Sieg the homunculus. He wanted a proper contest of arms against a worthy opponent, and thus in this particular instance the time limit on Sieg's transformation was more of a hindrance to Karna than to Sieg; their battle was basically stalemated as things were, which meant that Sieg would probably revert to normal before they could settle the fight. Not wanting to win via time-out, he instead opted to sacrifice his armor for the brute force he needed to claim the victory he desired, a decision which cost him when things didn't go the way he expected.

** Adds a bit of a Tearjerker moment, seeing as the two probably would have had a happier relationship if Artoria wasn't so painstakingly dedicated to her beliefs of how a King should rule and treated Mordred warmer than what said belief dictated.

** This gets further enforced by the fact that she left Mordred in charge when she went on expedition to Rome. While she didn't think Mordred should have been King full-time, she certainly thought that she was capable of leading the people for a brief amount of time.
** Adds a bit of a Tearjerker moment, seeing as the two probably would have had a happier relationship if Artoria wasn't so painstakingly dedicated to her beliefs of how a King should rule.

* Astolfo coming to save Sieg from Karna is actually apt, considering he's a moon-powered Hero going up against a sun-powered Hero.

* Meta humor here. Kairi saving Mordred with the hydra antidote is often joked as Kairi [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder ascending her to 3rd ascension]] due to the lack of armour. The reason the joke works well because her 3rd skill which only be unlocked in the 3rd ascension raises defence, NP gauge and ''clears status aliments'', perfect for countering Semiramis' poison based NP.
* Somewhat Fridge Tearjerker, but consider [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeHglf5ePA4 Morgan Le Fay's very brief appearance in the anime for Mordred's past.]] She sounds abit odd, like she's straining her voice in anger or anguish. However, consider some factors: Morgause, the supposed third sister to Morgan and Artoria doesn't exist in the Fateverse, so all traits concerning her went to Morgan. Including the factor that Sirs Gawain, Gaheris, Agravain and Gareth were her children, alongside Mordred. Now, remember one detail in the Arthurian Legends is that Lancelot (who is confirmed in the Nasuverse to have done the same thing) had killed Agravain, Gaheris and Gareth. The former upon discovering the affair and potentially all three when trying to save Guinevere from execution. Another detail is that after this event, Artoria had given an official pardon to Lancelot and Guinevere, saying "their actions must have good cause". Now look at it all from Morgan's point of view: three of her children were murdered in less than a day, and her own sister pardons their murderer believing that his actions might've had good cause. It's very likely that Morgan was fueled by rage and still grieving for her children, as evidenced by her black robes and veil that can be seen as like a mourning veil.

* [[LightNovel/FateZero Waver Velvet]] still went on to become Lord El-Melloi II even though the Fourth Grail War didn't happen. The FridgeBrilliance kicks in when you remember the paper he wrote (that was ridiculed by Kayneth, the first Lord El-Melloi) asserted that hard work and dedication could allow a magus to overcome the disadvantage of a limited lineage. From the look of it, he was right. Similarly, because the Fourth Grail War didn't happen, Kayneth presumably died in a way that left his Crest intact for transplantation in the next Lord El-Melloi. And seeing as Waver controls a Volumen Hydragyrum...

* [[LightNovel/FateZero Waver Velvet]] still went on to become Lord El-Melloi II even though the Fourth Grail War didn't happen. The FridgeBrilliance kicks in when you remember the paper he wrote (that was ridiculed by Kayneth, the first Lord El-Melloi) asserted that hard work and dedication could allow a magus to overcome the disadvantage of a limited lineage. From the look of it, he was right. Similarly, because the Fourth Grail War didn't happen, Kayneth presumably died in a way that left his Crest intact for transplantation in the next Lord El-Melloi. And seeing as Waver controls a Volumen Hydragyrum...

* The term "Apocrypha" refers to something that is unofficial or obscure. It fits as this series is unconnected to any of the events of Kinoko Nasu's "Fate" series.

* Somewhat Fridge Tearjerker, but consider [[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeHglf5ePA4 Morgan Le Fay's very brief appearance in the anime for Mordred's past.]] She sounds abit odd, like she's straining her voice in anger or anguish. However, consider some factors: Morgause, the supposed third sister to Morgan and Artoria doesn't exist in the Fateverse, so all traits concerning her went to Morgan. Including the factor that Sirs Gawain, Gaheris, Agravain and Gareth were her children, alongside Mordred. Now, remember one detail in the Arthurian Legends is that Lancelot (who is confirmed in the Nasuverse to have done the same thing) had killed Agravain, Gaheris and Gareth. The former upon discovering the affair and potentially all three when trying to save Guinevere from execution. Another detail is that after this event, Artoria had given an official pardon to Lancelot and Guinevere, saying "their actions must have good cause". Now look at it all from Morgan's point of view: three of her children were murdered in less than a day, and her own sister pardons their murderer believing that his actions might've had good cause. It's very likely that Morgan was fueled by rage and still grieving for her children, as evidenced by her black robes and veil that can be seen as like a mourning veil.

* The term "Apocrypha" refers to something that is unofficial or obscure. It fits as this series is unconnected to any of the events of Kinoko Nasu's "Fate" series.

* Studio DEEN's adaptation of [[Videogame/FateStayNight Fate/Stay Night]] confirmed her gender, Of course Mordred would be female. Having two female parents, there is no source of Y-Chromosomes to alter her gender.

* Meta humor here. Kairi saving Mordred with the hydra antidote is often joked as Kairi [[VideoGame/FateGrandOrder ascending her to 3rd ascension]] due to the lack of armour. The reason the joke works well because her 3rd skill which only be unlocked in the 3rd ascension raises defence, NP gauge and ''clears status aliments'', perfect for countering Semiramis' poison based NP.

* The choice of the story's Ruler Servants (UsefulNotes/JeanneDArc and UsefulNotes/AmakusaShiro) explicit set them up as {{Foil}}s to each other--with both of them having lived, led and fought in a time of war (i.e. UsefulNotes/TheHundredYearsWar and the [[UsefulNotes/JapaneseChristian Shimabara Rebellion]], respectively), plus getting martyred/executed for their faith and actions even before reaching the age of 20. The clear difference in characterization (i.e. where they diverge) also gains additional layers with RealitySubtext: after all, Jeanne dies an InspirationalMartyr well-venerated within the Church, in France and the world throughout (plus her side, France, actually won the Hundred Years' War). By contrast, the Shimabara Rebellion (and, for that matter, any hope of Christianity regaining its footing in Japan) [[TragicDream virtually died with Shiro and his followers]], with Japanese Catholicism having evolved to an extent that it isn't fully understood by other countries' Catholic churches[[note]]For a thorough explanation of this, the works of ''Creator/ShusakuEndo'' may help.[[/note]]. Amakusa himself remains unrecognized and even unbeatified by the UsefulNotes/VaticanCity. It's probably no surprise that Jeanne (standing in for European Catholicism), someone whose faith was rewarded, will have difficulty connecting with Shiro (standing in for Japanese Catholicism), who experienced misery throughout the centuries.

* The choice of the story's Ruler Servants (UsefulNotes/JeanneDArc and UsefulNotes/AmakusaShiro) explicit set them up as {{Foil}}s to each other--with both of them having lived, led and fought in a time of war (i.e. UsefulNotes/TheHundredYearsWar and the [[UsefulNotes/JapaneseChristian Shimabara Rebellion]], respectively), plus getting martyred/executed for their faith and actions even before reaching the age of 20. The clear difference in characterization (i.e. where they diverge) also gains additional layers with RealitySubtext: after all, Jeanne dies an InspirationalMartyr well-venerated within the Church, in France and the world throughout (plus her side, France, actually won the Hundred Years' War). By contrast, the Shimabara Rebellion (and, for that matter, any hope of Christianity regaining its footing in Japan) virtually died with Shiro and his followers, with Japanese Catholicism having evolved to an extent that it isn't even appreciated by other countries' Catholic churches[[note]]For a thorough explanation of this, the works of ''Creator/ShusakuEndo'' may help.[[/note]]. Amakusa himself remains unrecognized and even unbeatified by the UsefulNotes/VaticanCity. It's probably no surprise that Jeanne (standing in for European Catholicism), someone whose faith was rewarded, will have difficulty connecting with Shiro (standing in for Japanese Catholicism), who experienced misery throughout the centuries.

* In the new opening to Fate Apocrypha, we have the sight of another match between Mordred and Jack. They are foils to one another. Both have dark trouble pasts but have father/mother figures.

* Studio DEEN's adaptation of [[Videogame/FateStayNight]] confirmed her gender, Of course Mordred would be female. Having two female parents, there is no source of Y-Chromosomes to alter her gender.

* Studio DEEN's adaptation confirmed her gender, Of course Mordred would be female. Having two female parents, there is no source of Y-Chromosomes to alter her gender.

* While previous appearances never confirmed a gender, Of course Mordred would be female. Having two female parents, there is no source of Y-Chromosomes to alter her gender.

* While previous appearances never confirmed a gender, Of course Mordred would be female. Having two female parents, there is no source of Y-Chromosomes to alter her gender.

* It might seem that Fran was weaker than the Berserkers in the Fate franchise. However, we have to look closer. Both Hercules, Spartacus and Lancelot were either a SemiDivine or a BadassNormal who had years to hone their skills and power. Fran on the other hand was on Earth for more or less a couple of days, she was emotionally traumatized and yet to gain skills of her own. It leaves little wonder why she lost to Mordred or required some help.

* It might seem that Fran was weaker than the Berserkers in the Fate franchise. However, we have to look closer. Both Hercules, Spartacus and Lancelot were either a Demi-God or a BadassNormal who had years to hone their skills and power. Fran on the other hand was on Earth for more or less a couple of days, she was emotionally traumatized and yet to gain skills of her own. It leaves little wonder why she lost to Mordred or required some help.

Fridge Brilliance
* In the new opening to Fate Apocrypha, we have the sight of another match between Mordred and Jack. They are foils to one another. Both have dark trouble pasts but have father/mother figures.